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Title: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 21, 2005, 11:10:39 AM We have a thread on 'bands who standards have depreciated' - now for a more upbeat version - and a chance to discover some 'decent' bands
Don't know about you - but i look through my collection and I struggle to see many bands that are getting any better - or who's later albums are even worth having! (Metallica/Pearl Jam/Iron Maiden/Judas Priest etc etc...) Sometimes it feels as if music itself has already reached a peak and is now permeantly on a downhill slop - so who are the bands that counter this and are actually improving? Which current artists are just getting better and better, which artists later releases actually improve on what come before? Are there any such bands left? For me: Type O Negative - ''fang''-tastic New York goth rockers - started a bit shaky, their first two albums were rather inaccesible offerings - made a masterpeice in Sabbath-esque Bloody Kisses, exceeded it with the more melodic October Rust, matched that offering with the incredibly moving World Coming Down and then produced some of their finest material yet on the radio-friendly Life is killing me. I want their new album far more than Chinese Democracy! Slipknot - masked noise makers started well with their debut, made a better album with Iowa and then produced a truly superb album in Vol.3 which dispensed with the filler tracks and filled the album instead with powerful, technically great metal tracks and shredding - any of which could have been a single. Nightwish - Finnish goth-rockers have improved with every album they have done - each albums without exception (imo) is better than what came before. They have refined their sound, focused on their strengths and really worked well on their song arrangements - transcends pop and metal well without the draw backs of either Any other current bands who just get better? Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 21, 2005, 11:17:24 AM Aerosmith-Those first two albums are good, but it is Rocks that does it for me. Although they have sucked for the last 15 years.
Led Zeppelin- Love those early albums, but Zozo-PG is da shit. Korn-HATE those first couple albums, last ones have been pretty good. Others; Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Extreme, Bruce Springsteen, Sonic Youth. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on December 21, 2005, 11:20:22 AM Agree with with nightwish, they improve their sound with the pass of the albums but slipknot :no:, their music sounds standard and in the same level as they were in the first record, not that I heard the records (my fault) but that I've heard singles, or from people that really like this band and I gotta say they sound as equal as their first record.
I would say Helloween, they were in a metal breakdown in the early 90's mostly cause Michael Kiske musical interest wasn't metal at all, but after kiske departure the band became better IMHO and realease better records than in Kiske era, for instance Better than Raw, which is very underrated, and The dark ride, I haven't heard their last album but I hope for christmas I buy it :D Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 21, 2005, 11:27:36 AM And of course...The Beatles.
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Evolution on December 21, 2005, 11:30:43 AM CKY. Each album is more diverse and technically excellent than the last
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 21, 2005, 11:51:02 AM Aerosmith-Those first two albums are good, but it is Rocks that does it for me. Although they have sucked for the last 15 years. Led Zeppelin- Love those early albums, but Zozo-PG is da shit. Korn-HATE those first couple albums, last ones have been pretty good. Others; Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Extreme, Bruce Springsteen, Sonic Youth. Clearly i assumed too much with my post :confused: This is for existing bands that are releasing music I thought that was obvious.....dead bands are hardly improving their musical output. One good album from the last 20 doesn't mean a band is improving either - including Aerosmith is just laughable, they clearly are not surpassing past efforts! Quote Aerosmith-Those first two albums are good, but it is Rocks that does it for me. Although they have sucked for the last 15 years. Well done, clearly that was appropriate to this thread then. :P slipknot? :no:, their music sounds standard and in the same level as they were in the first record, Fair do... Quote not that I heard the records (my fault) So u have no idea what u'r talking about. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Walk on December 21, 2005, 01:53:58 PM Overlorde- They released a mediocre 20 minute self-titled EP in the late 80's, which was nothing out of the ordinary. In 2004, they returned and put out Return Of The Snow Giant, which is great traditional metal! This is one of the few albums that comes close to Jag Panzer's legendary Ample Destruction album.
Grave Digger- This is another 80's power metal band that was nothing out of the ordinary. In 2003, they put out Rheingold, their greatest album after over 20 years of being together! They're in better shape now than ever. Pentagram- In the 70's, they were just another Sabbath clone. In the 80's, they had a few good doom metal albums. In 1994, they put out Be Forewarned, one doom metal's greatest moments. Then, they slipped back into the underground lately... Graveland- In the beginning, Graveland was just another black metal band. Very good, but not quite Burzum or Darkthrone good. Then, Graveland become more inspired by paganism and vikings than satan and metal. Their later albums are less raw and better composed. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: mrlee on December 21, 2005, 01:59:17 PM Black Label Society, there getting heavier by the album and production is getting better too.
Limp Bizkit, (including the unquestionable truth) i think they get better by album Papa Roach, great first album, 2nd album wasnt but they stepped back up on the new album, live the bassist is amazing. Not that many modern bands im into, old bands are more for me. I think metallica have gotten better live, but not by albums. Iron Maiden have defo gotten better, after the blaze era the songs arnt so boring and have more life again. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on December 21, 2005, 02:32:44 PM slipknot :no:, their music sounds standard and in the same level as they were in the first record, Fair do... Quote not that I heard the records (my fault) So u have no idea what u'r talking about. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Gunner80 on December 21, 2005, 03:07:17 PM We have a thread on 'bands who standards have depreciated' - now for a more upbeat version - and a chance to discover some 'decent' bands I agree 100% with your Slipknot assessment. Vol.3 truly is amazing. Don't know about you - but i look through my collection and I struggle to see many bands that are getting any better - or who's later albums are even worth having! (Metallica/Pearl Jam/Iron Maiden/Judas Priest etc etc...) Sometimes it feels as if music itself has already reached a peak and is now permeantly on a downhill slop - so who are the bands that counter this and are actually improving? Which current artists are just getting better and better, which artists later releases actually improve on what come before? Are there any such bands left? For me: Type O Negative - ''fang''-tastic New York goth rockers - started a bit shaky, their first two albums were rather inaccesible offerings - made a masterpeice in Sabbath-esque Bloody Kisses, exceeded it with the more melodic October Rust, matched that offering with the incredibly moving World Coming Down and then produced some of their finest material yet on the radio-friendly Life is killing me. I want their new album far more than Chinese Democracy! Slipknot - masked noises makers started well with their debut, made a better album with Iowa and then produced a truly superb album in Vol.3 which dispensed with the filler tracks and filled the album instead with powerful, technically great metal tracks and shredding - any of which could have been a single. Nightwish - Finnish goth-rockers have improved with every album they have done - each albums without exception (imo) is better than what came before. They have refined their sound, focused on their strengths and really worked well on their song arrangements - transcends pop and metal well without the draw backs of either Any other current bands who just get better? Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Sakib on December 21, 2005, 03:09:19 PM Slipknot suck but Vol. 3 seems a good album, shows more variation and style
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Slashly on December 21, 2005, 03:32:55 PM Man, Iron Maiden is defenetley in this list.Dance Of Death is much better than Brave New World.
I`m not saying that DOD is better than Piece Of Mind or Powerslave, but its awsome.Iron Maiden is the living proof that a band can evolve with every record and still make a great record every time. Oh, BTW, Im just refering to all the records with Bruce Dickinson. I I cant stand the Blaze era and the D?ano (or whatever his name is) era. Baby Slash// Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: mrlee on December 21, 2005, 03:33:29 PM Slipknot suck but Vol. 3 seems a good album, shows more variation and style Defo, there less silly screaming in it. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 21, 2005, 06:39:04 PM Aerosmith-Those first two albums are good, but it is Rocks that does it for me. Although they have sucked for the last 15 years. Led Zeppelin- Love those early albums, but Zozo-PG is da shit. Korn-HATE those first couple albums, last ones have been pretty good. Others; Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Extreme, Bruce Springsteen, Sonic Youth. Clearly i assumed too much with my post :confused: This is for existing bands that are releasing music I thought that was obvious.....dead bands are hardly improving their musical output. One good album from the last 20 doesn't mean a band is improving either - including Aerosmith is just laughable, they clearly are not surpassing past efforts! Quote Aerosmith-Those first two albums are good, but it is Rocks that does it for me. Although they have sucked for the last 15 years. Well done, clearly that was appropriate to this thread then. :P slipknot? :no:, their music sounds standard and in the same level as they were in the first record, Fair do... Quote not that I heard the records (my fault) So u have no idea what u'r talking about. The title of the post is "Bands who just get better," with no reference to whether or not they are still an active band. So I don't see the problem with adding the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. Did you just add the "current" tag? Who cares if they are current or not? The point is the same. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 21, 2005, 07:34:00 PM The title of the post is "Bands who just get better," Are the Beatles getting better? ::) Quote with no reference to whether or not they are still an active band. I wrote the damn thing, i think i know what its about! Try reading next time Quote So I don't see the problem with adding the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. Did you just add the "current" tag? Who cares if they are current or not? The point is the same. I care - its a thread i started This wouldn't be your brain i found? Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 21, 2005, 07:57:43 PM More dead bands that got better:
Queen- First couple records are great, but they really hit thier stride w/ NATO. Soundgarden- Again, I like those early albums, but "Louder than Love" on up is where it's at. Screaming Trees Pixies T-Rex Van Hagar Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: MadmanDan on December 21, 2005, 08:32:00 PM Well the only band I can think of is The Corrs...I'm badass, I know :hihi: :hihi:
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on December 21, 2005, 09:22:57 PM More dead bands that got better: Plus point on Queen : ok:Queen- First couple records are great, but they really hit thier stride w/ NATO. Man, Iron Maiden is defenetley in this list.Dance Of Death is much better than Brave New World. I`m not saying that DOD is better than Piece Of Mind or Powerslave, but its awsome.Iron Maiden is the living proof that a band can evolve with every record and still make a great record every time. Oh, BTW, Im just refering to all the records with Bruce Dickinson. I I cant stand the Blaze era and the D?ano (or whatever his name is) era. Baby Slash// Yeah is Paul Dianno, but I really think that DOD wasn't acomplished at their best, dont get me wrong Ima huge maiden fan but as my point of view they couldn't get lower on that record, it sounds quite boring. :-\ Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Jonathan on December 21, 2005, 10:31:02 PM Foo Fighters and R.E.M
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: metallex78 on December 21, 2005, 11:28:35 PM Australian band The Butterfly Effect. They're similar in style to Perfect Circle / Deftones with a bit of Alice In Chains style with some of the vocals.
Anyway, they've only got 1 EP and 1 album out, but the amount that the band matured from their debut EP to their debut album is amazing. They showed promise to begin with, but their album blew me away. Theyr'e currently working on their 2nd LP, so we'll see if they get even better! Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: ClintroN on December 22, 2005, 01:34:06 AM The Wiggles, every album just blows me away!! :o :o
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: D on December 22, 2005, 01:45:56 AM how did u guys forget possibly the greatest band alive today
The fuckin Red Hot Chili Peppers Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: metallex78 on December 22, 2005, 02:03:43 AM how did u guys forget possibly the greatest band alive today The fuckin Red Hot Chili Peppers Bah, to me the sound the same every album, just like AC/DC sound pretty much the same every album. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: D on December 22, 2005, 03:44:35 AM Not a band but Prince just keeps getting better, its rare u find two prince records that sound the same.
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Sakib on December 22, 2005, 08:07:44 AM Slipknot suck but Vol. 3 seems a good album, shows more variation and style Defo, there less silly screaming in it. it shows Corey Taylor can actually sing Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 22, 2005, 08:56:45 AM how did u guys forget possibly the greatest band alive today The fuckin Red Hot Chili Peppers While i didn't personally like ''By the way'' they certainly ain't getting any worse, good call D Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: mrlee on December 22, 2005, 09:20:17 AM how did u guys forget possibly the greatest band alive today The fuckin Red Hot Chili Peppers I think the albums "mothers milk" and "blood sugar sec drugs magic" are there best, alot more funkyier and rockier. They sort of went into a more "lazy rock" sound with there later albums, still cool though. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Skeletor on December 22, 2005, 10:36:23 AM Prince and the RHCP made some great albums in the 80s/early 90s, but have managed nothing but mediocrity afterwards (though Musicology actually got some rave reviews - I still haven't listened to that one). I wouldn't exactly call that getting "better and better".
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 22, 2005, 11:21:53 AM Agree 100 percent on RHCP. Californication and BTW my fav.
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 22, 2005, 01:15:21 PM Prince and the RHCP made some great albums in the 80s/early 90s, but have managed nothing but mediocrity afterwards (though Musicology actually got some rave reviews - I still haven't listened to that one). I wouldn't exactly call that getting "better and better". Well, when u look at their dubious 80's stuff albums like BSSM, Californication and By the way are definite improvements.... Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Timothy on December 22, 2005, 02:02:08 PM Not a band but Prince just keeps getting better, its rare u find two prince records that sound the same. I agre ,though I 'm a bit biased cause I a huge Prince fan. Foo Fighters seem to get better and better.Also Sevendust and RHCP Too. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: mrlee on December 22, 2005, 03:00:43 PM Prince and the RHCP made some great albums in the 80s/early 90s, but have managed nothing but mediocrity afterwards (though Musicology actually got some rave reviews - I still haven't listened to that one). I wouldn't exactly call that getting "better and better". Well, when u look at their dubious 80's stuff albums like BSSM, Californication and By the way are definite improvements.... There last album of the 80s is great. So is the first album of the 90s. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 22, 2005, 11:41:05 PM Quote it shows Corey Taylor can actually sing Uh, StoneSour showed Corey Taylor can definately sing, and sing well :-\ Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Skeletor on December 23, 2005, 07:38:13 AM Prince and the RHCP made some great albums in the 80s/early 90s, but have managed nothing but mediocrity afterwards (though Musicology actually got some rave reviews - I still haven't listened to that one). I wouldn't exactly call that getting "better and better". Well, when u look at their dubious 80's stuff albums like BSSM, Californication and By the way are definite improvements.... There last album of the 80s is great. So is the first album of the 90s. Yeah, that's what I was referring to. After Mother's Milk and Blood Sugar Sex Magik, the albums that followed weren't really that special, even though they sold well. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: journey on December 23, 2005, 09:06:33 AM It's Pearl Jam for me. They just got a whole lot better. They were always great, but I was not aware of it. :P
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on December 23, 2005, 09:31:00 AM I gotta go with Megadeth, I know is no longer on activity but their albums since the first always got better with the exception of Risk, I really don't like that album, The world needs a hero is one great album and it doesn't appear that Dave had lost that speed and thrashy way to play the guitar : ok:
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on December 23, 2005, 05:54:44 PM Type O Negative keeps getting better. The Portugese Goth Metal band Moonspell keeps getting better as well.
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: D on December 23, 2005, 09:54:51 PM Pearl Jam have gotten better????
Actually Skeletor Prince has two very remarkable records "Gold Experience" and "Emancipation" that are as good if not better than his 80's hey dey. He was more of an Indepedent then, so they flew in under the radar He won 3 grammys for Musicology. Trust me, he keeps gettin better cause he has evolved his style and still kicks ass. "The Rainbow Children" is one of the best concept records made. It takes about 30 times to understand exactly what the fuck he is singin about, but once u figure it out, its amazing. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Butch Français on December 23, 2005, 10:06:16 PM Agree 100 percent on RHCP. Californication and BTW my fav. I love every RHCP album except their debut one from 1984. but their peak was definately BSSM, even though Californication was slightly more of a commercial success. they seem to be progressing and making the music they want to make though, and as long as I like it, which I have so far, I have no problem with it! but there are few bands that keep putting out albums that are better than the last one...I would say Foo Fighters, but they haven't been completely stabile as I think their best album is their second and their fifth. actually, even though massivly unpopular at a message board like this, I think Blink 182 has improved massivly on every album they have put out. their last album from 2003 is their best and a damn great album imo! Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: D on December 23, 2005, 10:11:14 PM Californication or By The Way didnt have a single as strong as Under The Bridge but as an entire body of work from song 1 to the end I feel Californication was better than BSSM and By The Way just shits on all their albums combined.
thats my opinion anyway. And I hope people other than Hillell weighing in on this have actually listened to the entire albums and not just what was on the radio. cause By The Way and Zephyr werent the best songs on that CD. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Butch Français on December 23, 2005, 10:15:27 PM yeah I see what ur saying D, and trust me, BSSM isn't my favourite album because of Under the Bridge!
I love Cali and BTW too, but BSSM just hits my funky bone real hard, haha. and yeah, can't just listen to the singles if you wanna state an opinion about a whole album! Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Izzy on December 24, 2005, 06:00:15 PM Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: D on December 25, 2005, 07:15:47 AM by the way in my opinion is more of a concept record, it isnt a good time,fun record.
Its a melancholy as fuck record except for By The Way,Cant Stop,Minor Thing and On Mercury. It hit me at a time when my life was shitty and horrible and hard and that record fuckin spoke to me and gave me strength and hope. By The Way isnt for entertainment purposes alone, that record changed my life. I challenge anyone who is goin through a heartbreak or a lousy fuckin time in their life to buy this CD and listen from start to finish. U will Cry,scream, break shit but feel better after Venice Queen goes off. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: RichardNixon on December 25, 2005, 09:39:47 AM The Replacements- First couple albums were good, but they didn't become a great band until "Let it Be."
Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Krispy Kreme on December 25, 2005, 11:29:43 PM Beatles
Lynyrd Skynyrd Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Jim on December 26, 2005, 08:04:59 AM Type O Negative... ;D
Sorry. But they could release an album as good as Sargent Peppers and I wouldn't listen to it. After hearing the laughably childish "I don't wanna be...I don't wanna be me", I could never listen to them. That song was awful beyond belief. But, their other stuff is better? Or in the same vein? Err, I'm not too sure about getting better... But a band that I feel have been consistently great are Opeth. And. Err. Guns N' Roses? I thought the Illusions were better than Appetite. And if the new songs are like Madagascar then... Yes. GNR. Title: Re: Bands who just get better?? Post by: Skeletor on December 26, 2005, 12:53:09 PM But, their other stuff is better? Or in the same vein? October rust is a serious, good quality TON album. And I share your opinion on the song you mentioned, I don't really think much of that album anyways. But a band that I feel have been consistently great are Opeth. Oh yes. |