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Title: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: WARose on December 21, 2005, 09:14:20 AM
if/when gnr will finaly release chinese democracy.? ? will they be considered as newcomers or as a band which has its comeback?? ?if they have to be put in a category at the vma`s for example......or what do you think will the public think about it? I?d guess it depends on how the public views the band. axl`s solo project or really new gnr....

a little question i was thinking about.....
 :peace:


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Falcon on December 21, 2005, 10:13:55 AM
No question about it, comeback.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: WARose on December 21, 2005, 10:15:36 AM
......considering there?s only da captain left......


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: MeanBone on December 21, 2005, 10:24:06 AM
comeback


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jarmo on December 21, 2005, 10:26:20 AM
I don't think it'll be considered the comeback of GN'R, more like the comeback of W. Axl Rose who's been MIA for a while.





/jarmo


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 21, 2005, 10:29:13 AM
It will be called a comeback. I personally much prefer 'newcomers' tho. :-\


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: RichardNixon on December 21, 2005, 10:46:41 AM
Comeback mostly, but if it takes off, maybe newcommers as well. Wouldn't it be great to see Robin and Richard on the cover of guitar world.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jameslofton29 on December 21, 2005, 10:49:00 AM
I don't think it'll be considered the comeback of GN'R, more like the comeback of W. Axl Rose who's been MIA for a while.





/jarmo
I also agree with this statement. Everyone knows its not the real/old GNR. Everything falls on Axl. Whether its a success or failure, its on him. Everyone knows that.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Locomotive on December 21, 2005, 11:37:18 AM
comeback of axl rose and co.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 21, 2005, 11:39:34 AM
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comeback of axl rose and co.
True. comeback of new gnr.

Comeback mostly, but if it takes off, maybe newcommers as well. Wouldn't it be great to see Robin and Richard on the cover of guitar world.
absolutely.
It'd be great to see the 8 guys together on the cover of rolling stone, NME etc.
And I wouldn't hate to see their full-page pics appear in the quality papers along with follow-up reports about "the most expensive album never made".


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Nytunz on December 21, 2005, 11:55:26 AM
i think it will be bouth in a way.
Since the Band name still is GNR, and Axl is the captain.
But newcommers, since they are a new line up. And maybe changed theyr style


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: WARose on December 21, 2005, 12:34:44 PM
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comeback of axl rose and co.
True. comeback of new gnr.

Comeback mostly, but if it takes off, maybe newcommers as well. Wouldn't it be great to see Robin and Richard on the cover of guitar world.
absolutely.
It'd be great to see the 8 guys together on the cover of rolling stone, NME etc.
And I wouldn't hate to see their full-page pics appear in the quality papers along with follow-up reports about "the most expensive album never made".

8 guys?


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: nesquick on December 21, 2005, 12:59:29 PM
Come back of Axl, under the brand's name "Guns N' Roses". People are not stupid, they will see that Slash is not here anymore, and they won't call it "Guns N' Roses".


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Neemo on December 21, 2005, 01:22:02 PM
Well technically it'll be a comeback for all of them but Fortus cuz he's always been a session musician no?

Axl - GnR
Dizzy - GnR
Tommy - Replacements
Brain - Primus
Robin - NIN
Chris - Tool

Of course,I'm not taking into account the solo projects and one off's that each member has done :peace:


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: nesquick on December 21, 2005, 01:30:04 PM
I wonder if they will be considered as a band. I mean, even us, the fans, don't even consider them as a "real band"...so imagine the general public...or the media... I read some fucking TRASH review on this new band back in 2002 in the media, the media used the words "clowns" "hired band", "Marylin manson's rejected", "ridiculous looking band", "as big as a house" "fatt goggy and the guys who aren't Slash" etc... th media trashed the band.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: chineseblues on December 21, 2005, 01:41:15 PM
Well technically it'll be a comeback for all of them but Fortus cuz he's always been a session musician no?

Axl - GnR
Dizzy - GnR
Tommy - Replacements
Brain - Primus
Robin - NIN
Chris - Tool

Of course,I'm not taking into account the solo projects and one off's that each member has done :peace:

Richard was in 2 pretty well known bands, Love Spit Love and the Psychedellic Furs.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Nytunz on December 21, 2005, 01:58:17 PM
Well technically it'll be a comeback for all of them but Fortus cuz he's always been a session musician no?

Axl - GnR
Dizzy - GnR
Tommy - Replacements
Brain - Primus
Robin - NIN
Chris - Tool

Of course,I'm not taking into account the solo projects and one off's that each member has done :peace:

Pittman was never a member of Tool, but he did work with them on the ?nima record..


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Neemo on December 21, 2005, 02:17:30 PM
Richard was in 2 pretty well known bands, Love Spit Love and the Psychedellic Furs.

Oh cool, I didn't know that, I thought he just did stuff with as a hired man (Nina, Nsync etc)

Pittman was never a member of Tool, but he did work with them on the ?nima record..

Oh i thought he received a band credit in the ?nima Booklet (Chris Pittman - Synthesizer) can't confirm that though i don't have the CD with me :(


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 21, 2005, 02:25:54 PM
8 guys?
Woops, my bad. :P But honestly, it would be great.

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I mean, even us, the fans, don't even consider them as a "real band"...

Us? polly you and naysayers don't.
I do. so do the fans that know what a band is. : ok:


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: the dirt on December 21, 2005, 02:31:56 PM
Oh i thought he received a band credit in the ?nima Booklet (Chris Pittman - Synthesizer)

Not a band credit.

Additional Synthesizer on "Third Eye": Chris Pitman

That's it.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Falcon on December 21, 2005, 02:34:03 PM

Richard was in 2 pretty well known bands, Love Spit Love and the Psychedellic Furs.

Not demeaning the bands by any means, but Love Spit Loves claim to fame was a remake of The Smith's "How Soon Is Now" and the Furs were years away from any success after Richard joined..


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 21, 2005, 02:46:27 PM
Is Richard on the remake of The Smith's "How Soon Is Now"?
It's a great tune BTW. even the cover by Tatu sounded OKish.

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I read some fucking TRASH review on this new band back in 2002 in the media, the media used the words "clowns" "hired band", "Marylin manson's rejected", "ridiculous looking band", "as big as a house" "fatt goggy and the guys who aren't Slash" etc... th media trashed the band.

I haven't red any of the sort. Basically I don't read lowbrow magazines. :hihi:
Anyways Yesterday will take care of itself.  Another day another donut.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: NickNasty on December 21, 2005, 02:54:39 PM
Comeback---more specifically the 'improbable comeback of Axl Rose'
 
As talented as the other players are, and as notweworthy as some of their past exploits have been, it all pales in comparsion to the legend of Guns n Roses, and Axl Rose.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Falcon on December 21, 2005, 03:09:47 PM

Is Richard on the remake of The Smith's "How Soon Is Now"?
It's a great tune BTW...

 

Yes, Richard's on it. 

As remakes go, it'a good version.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Neemo on December 21, 2005, 04:06:33 PM
Oh i thought he received a band credit in the ?nima Booklet (Chris Pittman - Synthesizer)

Not a band credit.

Additional Synthesizer on "Third Eye": Chris Pitman

That's it.

Oh well, I was wrong, thanks dude : ok:

So in reality, the only "newcomer" in the band, really, is Pittman, everybody else has "been there..done that"


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jimmythegent on December 21, 2005, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: ppbebe link=topic=24412.msg432582#msg432582

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I mean, even us, the fans, don't even consider them as a "real band"...

Us? polly you and naysayers don't.
I do. so do the fans that know what a band is. : ok:
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 :hihi: please elaborate? because as I see it, they bare no resemblence whatsoever to a band at this stage

no singles, no videos, no album, no gigs, no photos, no interviews, no press releases, no website, no nothing


i think it's proving harder and harder for Axl to just "comeback" and say "we're Guns N' Roses!" and expect the rationally thinking world to accept that out of the blue


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 21, 2005, 04:27:15 PM
Against all odds, Axl Rose returns with a re-vamped Guns N' Roses to deliver the goods on an epic masterpiece nearly 10 years in the making : ok:


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jimmythegent on December 21, 2005, 04:31:09 PM
Against all odds, Axl Rose returns with a re-vamped Guns N' Roses to deliver the goods on an epic masterpiece nearly 10 years in the making : ok:

your words?


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 21, 2005, 04:33:29 PM
jimmythegent
If you saw a newcomer called "guns n roses" out of the blue in this century, you'd accept the fact that the band is the kickass real new type (never existed).
I prefer the band to be considered as a newcomer anyway.

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So in reality, the only "newcomer" in the band, really, is Pittman, everybody else has "been there..done that"

I expect pitman to play a very important role in CD. Polly A star will be born soon.  : ok:

Yes, Richard's on it. 

As remakes go, it'a good version.

Then he contributed to the success of Love Spit Love. Jolly good.   : ok:


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jimmythegent on December 21, 2005, 04:51:58 PM
jimmythegent
If you saw a newcomer called "guns n roses" out of the blue in this century, you'd accept the fact that the band is the kickass real new type (never existed).
I prefer the band to be considered as a newcomer anyway.

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very well, I see what youre saying, my question to you was more in relation to your claim that those who know what a "band" is by definition, know that GN' R are a band.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Falcon on December 21, 2005, 05:47:07 PM

Then he contributed to the success of Love Spit Love. Jolly good.? ?: ok:

Unfortunately Love Spit Love had no real success, unless doing a good cover of an already proven song
is deemed successful.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 21, 2005, 05:57:26 PM
Against all odds, Axl Rose returns with a re-vamped Guns N' Roses to deliver the goods on an epic masterpiece nearly 10 years in the making : ok:

your words?

You betcha there my words :D


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: younggunner on December 21, 2005, 05:58:03 PM
its a little bit of both....
its a comeback for Axl and the GNR name and its meet the new band type thing as well...



Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: jimmythegent on December 21, 2005, 06:01:16 PM
Against all odds, Axl Rose returns with a re-vamped Guns N' Roses to deliver the goods on an epic masterpiece nearly 10 years in the making : ok:

your words?

You betcha there my words :D

oh, just looked like a quote because of the italics


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: FIZ GRAFITI on December 21, 2005, 06:44:43 PM
if/when gnr will finaly release chinese democracy.? ? will they be considered as newcomers or as a band which has its comeback?? ?if they have to be put in a category at the vma`s for example......or what do you think will the public think about it? I?d guess it depends on how the public views the band. axl`s solo project or really new gnr....

a little question i was thinking about.....
 :peace:
Of course it will be considered a come back because the vast majority of people do not know there are any new members, they just know that GUns are back, so it will be concidered a come back.....in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on December 21, 2005, 08:13:16 PM
Against all odds, Axl Rose returns with a re-vamped Guns N' Roses to deliver the goods on an epic masterpiece nearly 10 years in the making : ok:

your words?

You betcha there my words :D

oh, just looked like a quote because of the italics

Nope sorry. Its a habit of mine as a writer to put my titles or headlines in itallics.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Jonathan on December 21, 2005, 10:18:03 PM
A strange mix.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: Rob on December 22, 2005, 12:44:34 AM
This band is about one person at this point, and that person is Axl Rose.  And CD will be (if it ever actually comes out) his comeback.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: highend88 on December 22, 2005, 05:14:36 AM
If CD did come out. It will be a comeback of the century in the history of music.
I'm still counting on you AXL.


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: WARose on December 22, 2005, 09:08:14 AM
i think the general public will view it as a comeback and compare the new to the old band..... and that sucks....      i guess the best thing was to call them a new band....but there?s the fuckin`name (which deinitely has to stay imo...)


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: WARose on December 22, 2005, 09:10:52 AM
Oh i thought he received a band credit in the ?nima Booklet (Chris Pittman - Synthesizer)

Not a band credit.

Additional Synthesizer on "Third Eye": Chris Pitman

That's it.

additional synthesizer :rofl:......   hilarious....


Title: Re: newcomer or comeback?
Post by: ppbebe on December 22, 2005, 10:14:45 AM
very well, I see what youre saying, my question to you was more in relation to your claim that those who know what a "band" is by definition, know that GN' R are a band.

For a music fan, a Band = the musical chemistry between the musicians
a Band is about the music. And the performance.

We're exposed to the band already, having seen the shows and heard the songs.
Who are they? Chris Richard dizzy tommy robin brain (Bh :'() and, oyez, the captain A.