Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Is it just me, or does this song kick total fuckin' ass. I dont know what it is but I can listen to this song on repeat over and over and it genuinely gets better eachtime, I just dont know why its taken me so long to be hynotized by this song because I sure know I wasnt amazed when UYI2 first came out. Now, it is right behind Estranged as far as best songs go on that album.

Does anyone have any bandmember quotes partaining to this track? Id really love to read as to what the band had in their heads when this song was written, theres just so many emotional fragments on it, the level of creativity is amazing. Also, what are your thoughts on this incredible track? The finale has to speak to everyone here in a unique way...

ps: Post your favorite performances of this song, mp3 or video! lets get a shrine goin', cause this song has gone underated long enough!

I agree. Excellent song. Not well known enough. I got a live mp3 somewhere ill post if i can find  :-X

yea great song, the lyrics are really something.. the annoying voice during the chorus gets on my nerves tho.

makes you wanna breakdown :hihi:

I love this song. It's definitely underrated among us fans. I have no idea what's the purpose but the lyrics and the song, music-wise, is awesome. Slash's guitar work was great as well. Both solos were tight. I think the use of the 'Vanishing Point' quotes were kinda out of place, but I find the meaning to be very thought provoking.

"If the evil spirit, arms the tiger with claws. Brahman provided wings for the dove.."

My interpretation of that would be, "If you are facing a problem that would only cause you harm [If the evil spirit..], the only solution would be to walk away [Brahman provided wings..]"

Yeah, I think you've guys might have had enough preaching for my first post ;D

Peace out.

I love the song but I could do with out the ending quotes from that vanishing point axl speaks. I dont mind it, and its kinda cool but its the only bad thing i have to say about the song.

Phenomenal song.

"funny how everything was roses when we held on to the guns"  that can be analyzed because that's a deep line to write, especially now, when the other guys are gone, and it's only Mr Rose left.. 

Yepp my favorite GNR song  :peace:

StoneTempleRoses

Breakdown, Estranged, and Yesterdays speak to me.

That song is just very underrated.

It took me some time to appreciate it, I guess you gotta get into he groove of that song - but then...WOW! I remember when I bought the album I didn't like that song at all, but now I just love it. It's a fantastic song, really gets to your soul. I don't mind the quotes, and I love how the ending just falls apart.

It's one of my favourite GN'R tunes, definetely one of the 5 best songs on UYI 2.  : ok:

In my high school yearbook, I wrote ?Funny how everything was roses when he held onto the guns, just because your winnin? don?t mean you?re the lucky ones?W. Axl Rose". I also thanked GN?R, VH, and the Crue for ?helping me make it these past 4 years.?

?Breakdown? is an amazing song. But it?s too complex for the average meathead to get into. Most people would probably describe it as ?Weird.? Or a pompous, pretentious critic, like Stephan Thomas Erpawine would describe it as ?pretentious.?

Only in my humble opinion, Breakdown is the second best GnR song. Second of course to the pure genius of Estranged. I think both songs are on a completley different level to pretty much any song I have heard both the lyrics and music! And yeh I know it sounds the usual cheesy line, but when I was a teenager those two songs really helped due to a particularly bad time I went through! So yeh in a nutshell! A huge thumbs up to Breakdown the second best GnR tune ever! Cheers Mike Dove

here?s some info from www.gnrinfo.tk

Written by: "Breakdown" was written by Axl.
Written in: "Breakdown" was written in or before 1990.

Performed live: "Breakdown" was only played live a few times in 1991. It wasn't played during 1992 and 1993. It was performed for the first time in Worcester, MA, December 6, 1991.

Additional Information: Axl has said that the end of "Breakdown" was the only thing he wasn't completely satisfied with on the Illusions.

In Their Own Words:

Slash: That's a five string banjo tuned to guitar [on the beginning of Breakdown] because I don't know anything about banjo. It's something I wrote off-the-cuff when Axl came up with that piano part.

Axl: There is nothing on the record that didn't come out the way we wanted, except maybe the vocal speech at the end of "Breakdown." The mix on the speakers that we did the mastering on was loud enough, but on other sets of speakers it's not. It depends on what stereo you're hearing it on, and we didn't know that.

I love Breakdown, it kicks ass!!!!

my favorite verse from the song is:

"Funny how everything was roses
When we held on to the guns
Just because you're winnin'
Don't mean you're the lucky ones"

That the one you love can hurt you now is a little hard to believe But everybody darlin sometimes bite the hand that feeds. ...Thats my favourite lines from this cool song

Breakdown is one of my fav.  GNR tunes too.
Although I think both UYI'S are underrated and people often say that AFD is their fav.  album just cause of nostalgia.
I mean apart from terrible My World,  mediocre Yesterday,  Bad Obsession and the two covers written by other people,  check out the songs on thoose albums -
Breakdown, Locomotive,  Estranged,  Dead Horse,  Coma,  You could be mine,  Nov.   rain,  Double talking jive,  Don't cry (x2),  Bad Apples,   Don't damn me...
So many great songs.
As far as Breakdown LIVE is considered,  I alwys try to get the bootlegs that hold rare songs first.
I have RinRio with Bad Apples,   and all but one Locomotive,  Coma and Breakdown recording.  Also missing The Garden of Eden and Austin bootleg.

p.s.   I love the way you have this sorted out on www.spfc.org.
When you look for a place the song was played,  you only have to clickon a song and it gives you all the places and dates it was preformed.
The best thing in GNR world is www.gnrontour.org where you have all the setlists but you have to go through every single one to find the songs.

SPFC? Collaborative? lol There's no such word in GN'R's community! ;D

Btw, it's www.gnrontour.com , not .org.

And Breakdown totally kicks ass, as do so many songs on Illusion II - my fav. album. The lyrics are simply awesome, to me it's part of the great "trilogy": Breakdown/ Locomotive/ Estranged. The lyrics of Don't Cry II are actually pretty fuckin awesome too!

Breakdown is my fave GNR track ever, then comes Locomotive and then Rocket Queen.
Breakdown is a unique form to express a feeling with lyrics as long with music fits quite perfectly. The end of the song it's just amazing I think it's the only song with that kinda ending. I compar this song to Queen masterpiece Borap, on the other hand I also compare locomotive with Borap, both are wonderful express feelings.   : ok:

It's one of my fav GNR song. I love the lyrics and the music, too.

Here is a live version:

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1NMPV5125IXMB3P9CD7CEJLU4O

I didn't realize so many people loved this song.
I do too, just because it was so different than anything they've done before.

Did it remind anyone else a little bit of a "meatloaf" song?
Not any particular one, just because of all the different breaks and changes.

NO!!!!! :nervous:

Back evil demon! :rant:

The Power of Christ Compels you. the power of Christ Compels you.
Come on people help this poor soul!

The Power of Christ Compels you
The power of Christ Compels you
The power of Christ Compels you

Shit now my monitor is soaked with Holy Water.

Fzzzttt! Uh-Oh

Meatloaf? C'Mon dude!

 : ok: yeah i like it too.? especially the piano part.? old gnr rocks!!!

Dude relax..
I only implied that the arrangment of the song is similar to epics that Meatloaf has recorded. Go back to bathing in holy water now.

At first GNR played that song in rock in Rio 1991!, I have it on mp3, it?s nice to hear that Brazilian Journalist speakin? ?bout that great gnr gig while ?Breakdown? is soundin? right there!  :smoking:

And I'm implying that Meatloaf blows and shouldn't be used in the same sentence as GnR.

And it was a joke, If you can subject yourself to meatloaf for any length of time, then you rock ::)

geez lighten up

mmm Cool songs!  ;D  I like it, but I used to like it more before...

Thanks for this awesome version Sirp, any idea what show or date its from?

BTW, great responses everyone, Its great to see Im not the only one who cherishes this excellent track : ok:

No, they didn't.

01.20.91 - Maracana Stadium, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
set: Pretty Tied Up, Mr. Brownstone, I Was Only Joking [Intro] / Patience, Godfather Theme, Double Talkin' Jive, Welcome To The Jungle, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Drum Solo, You Could Be Mine, It's So Easy, Guitar Solo, Civil War, Dead Horse, Sweet Child O' Mine, Estranged, Paradise City
attendance: 140,000+
audio/video recording?: audio, video
notes: Rock In Rio II Festival. This was broadcast on Brazilian TV & radio. Matt & Dizzy's first show with the band. GN'R's first full show in nearly a year and a half and there's over 140,000 people in attendance! Axl says it is his first rehearsal in 2 years. Axl says that 'Patience' was mainly "pained" by Izzy Stradlin. Before 'Estranged,' Axl says "this will be the first time I've sang it in a happy mood."


01.23.91 - Maracana Stadium, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
set: Pretty Tied Up, Mr. Brownstone, I Was Only Joking [Intro] / Patience, Nightrain, Godfather Theme, Double Talkin' Jive, Welcome To The Jungle, Only Women Bleed [Intro] / Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Drum Solo, You Could Be Mine, Civil War, Guitar Solo, Bad Apples, It?s So Easy, Rocket Queen, Sweet Child O? Mine, Estranged, Paradise City
attendance: 140,000+
audio/video recording?: audio, video [incomplete]
notes: The second show at the Rock In Rio II Festival and again over 140,000 people in attendance! This was broadcast on Brazilian TV & radio. At times the announcer speak over songs. This show is highlighted by the first live performance of 'Bad Apples!' Axl dedicates 'Civil War' to all the soldiers fighting in the Persian Gulf.


http://www.gnrontour.com/

1)right next door to hell
2)you could be mine
3)live and let die
4)double talkin' jive
5)don't cry (either, but i chose alt. for my mix)
6)locomotive
7)dead horse
8)civil war
9)perfect crime
10)november rain
11)knockin' on heaven's door
12)dust n' bones
13)yesterdays
14)garden of eden
15)estranged

 :drool:

good job voodoo! Slap that bitch!lol

You?re being violent on this forum just cuz I made a mistake when I said Breakdown was played at Brazil but it's not me who'll face the scary consequences next!  ::)

I've always loved BD, very emotional. It's one of those songs I never get sick of listening to.

It's one of those songs I dont listen to for a long time, but when I do, it always hits me how much I want to hear Axl's lyrics and vocals.

haha that is cool man, excellent..

I'll have a crack at this one...

1. civil war
2. 14 years
3. yesterdays
4. dont cry(original)
5. live and let die
6. so fine
7. shotgun blues
8. estranged
9. get in the ring
10. november rain
11. double talkin jive
12. you could be mine
13. bad obsession
14. garden of eden
15. perfect crime
16. knockin on heavans door
17. coma
18. my world

bit long? who cares??
 :peace:

This is hard one.. Every song on these albums are so fucking great  : ok:

1. Dust n' Bones
2. Civil War
3. Live And Let Die
4. 14 Years
5. You Could Be Mine
6. Back Off Bitch
7. November Rain
8. Yesterdays
9. Dont Cry
10. Double Talkin' Jive
11. Estranged
12. Dead Horse or Bad Apples
13. So Fine
14. Bad Obsession
15. Knockin' On Heavens Door
16. Coma

A fucking long album  ;D

^^Did you bypass the cencor? or is there no censor? I belive I Can recall there was a censor on this board... Yes? No?

         The Garden,Garden of Eden,Locomotive,Yesterdays,Right Next door to Hell,
          Get in the ring,breakdown,dead horse,coma,pretty tied up, and i wish they
          had Rocket Qween becouse it is only on AFD.

Fuck... ok, no censor... wonderful. Carry on  : ok:  :peace:

All i can say is WOW!!! Holy shit, I have just been reminded of how Kick Ass GnR actually was back in the day.

Just listened to UYI1 and UYI2 back to back for the first time in years to take part in this thread and i was shocked that on the first pass that I only eliminated 6 tracks of 30. Again Wow.

So then i took a different approach to this I went with all the singles and Video songs as definate yesses. and then filled in the remaining bits with some of my favorite non-single tunes. And as i have always hated LALD i decided to remove it (well hated is a bit strong but I have always been least fond of that track, of all their singles)

This is my final wishful 1 album long UYI

01. Civil War
02. Dead Horse
03. Yesterdays
04. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
05. Breakdown
06. Perfect Crime
07. Pretty Tied Up
08. November Rain
09. The Garden
10. Garden of Eden
11. Don't Damn Me
12. Estranged
13. You Could Be Mine
14. Dont' Cry (orig)
15. My World

For a total Time of 78:44

(I admit I fucking hated My World when UYI's were first released but now whenever I hear it I find myself having it stuck in my head, and I'm loving it, so I take it as ahead of it's time and actually decent...so it stays as the closer)

I changed the track listing, this one flows better : ok:

Think about it, they could realesed a kick ass B-Sides album in '93 then followed up with TSI in '94 and maybe would've been too busy to fight and then maybe we coulda had and new album back in '95 or '96  :drool: (ahh well, wishful thinking :'( )

1. estranged
2 so fine
3 november rain
4 back off bitch
5 dont dam me
6 bad obsession
7 dont cry (orig.)
8 u could be mine
9 get in the ring
10 coma
11 DEAD HORSE
12 14 years
im not sure if that would all fit on 1 cd but oh well

1.Civil War
2.Dust N' Bones
3.Dont Cry
4.Get In The Ring
5.Breakdown
6.Yesterdays
7.You Aint The First
8.Locomotive
9.November Rain
10.Estranged
11.Dead Horse
12.You Coud Be Mine
13.The Garden
14.Coma.....................

GNR-CROATIA, how can you say Yesterdays is mediocre, its one of the best songs ever!

I've thought the same thing before. Keep in mind, I love GNR, I don't like Meatloaf, and I think "Breakdown" is a great song.

Weird...

It's one of my all time favorite songs..  I love the part where he's giving the quote from the movie Vanishing Point..

Nice song. But it's one of those that I don't listen to much.

great song. find yourself a good pair of speakers and listen to slash let rip towards the end of the song.

some of the most honest lyrics you're ever likely to hear. reminds me why i have faith in axl.

Seems destined to be one of those songs that's a fan favorite, but never big outside of the fan base.

somebody said yesterdays was mediocre while bad apples was a great song  :o ???


breakdown is awesome, people complain about the piano but i love the fuckin piano

can someone please repost that live version, the link expired. thanks!

I really like Bad Apples.  It's one of those burried treasures on an album full of gold!

Breakdown from Worchester '91, first Breakdown performance:

Http://www.home.no/knutsindre/GunsN'Roses-Worchester'91-Breakdown.mp3

Gonna keep it up for about a week.  ;)

It's a great song,very special..I love it.. ;)

i am so into Breakdown right now ... amazing song

and mr dick purple > great favs :)

i think it's cool that the song has the words GUNS and ROSES in the lyrics.

Love the song minus the beginning and ending.

Here's the new link:

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13UKB5AC1EVS40MQMUNFC0HPGW

Enjoy!

Unfortunately, I don't know where is it from.

I love the wee piano part at the end. Do do do dodo

'Breakdown' - was another plaintive mini-epic, which took a different route down the familiar path of abandonment. ?"Just like the children hidin' in a closet can't tell what's goin' on outside" was a telltale line in a familiar Axl vein. ?He was the sole writer for both 'Estranged' and 'Breakdown' and is no surprise given their sensitive nature.

Axl speaks with sadness, "To think the one you love could hurt you now is a little hard to believe." ?Again given the tangents throughout the song it is difficult to to know who he refers to, whether it is a romantic partner or a family member. ?However it is obvious at the time Axl believed no one neither truly understood him, or cared enough to try.

He sings as if mentally wounded, "When I look around everybody always brings me down. ?Well is it them or me I just can't see... but if someone really cared well they'd take the time to spare, a moment to try and understand another one's dispair. ?Remember in this game that we call life that no one said it's fair."

There is also a reference to life as it was before the bands success. ?Axl sings, "Funny how everything was Roses when we held on to the Guns. ?Just because your winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones", in effect mocking their achievements and winking ironcally at their togetherness as paupers, their separation as rich rock stars. ?Separation was a theme evident throughout Axl's lyrics but there was also an abundance of themes linked to the desire to change.

''''Cause yesterday's got nothin for me
 ? Old pictures that I'll always see
 ? Some things could be better
 ? In my book of memories ? ?

Quoted from a GNR book.

Thanks a million knut! That version kick alota arse : ok:

thanks for reposting the songs... i LOVE IT!!!

I've looked at gnrontour.com and it says that there's no live video of breakdown.
I would love to see a live breakdown video... but....  :no:

in an mtv interview (circa 1991), Axl describes BD (along w/ "side 1" of UYI II) as "return of the south"---i.e. it has a southern feel to it, which I agree.  I like the momentum this song builds up too--esp. useful when jogging up a hill (Love listening to gnr when I jog!)

Breakdown is one of my favs. it took me a while to get into though for some reason  :-\

a classic, one of my favorites off of uyi2, unlike you i discovered this song when i was discovering gnr, always a good listen for me


rock n' roll

You are rippping off the song  :'(
I think what makes special Breakdown is the way the lyrics merged into the song everything from the begining to the end is one way ticket to a person that is really passing through a bad time. I think it's one of their best  : ok:

i forgot to mention that the chorus RUINS the song.

I dont think the chorus ruins the song, I mean its too brief to do any damage..just sets up a transistion for the next verse more than anything.

What ruins the song is when it ends.. ;)

The chorus sounds pretty funky to me.

Great song,  except for the end with the voice over  that kills the melody and the mood. but in general a great song.

I agree. The end almost ruins it. Maybe it needed "finishing touches". :hihi:

Use Your Illusion I/II rumoured release date: may 2006  :hihi:

Why people keep saying the end sucks It's great specially cause it sounds quite desperating when Im driving I would like to hit all the people that cross in my way just like Gran teft auto  :hihi:

I mainly just don't care for the whistling in the beginning.  Right after that it's all good.

Then the whole "There goes the challenger being chased" bit at the end just ruins it for me.  Too long and drawn out.  That's usually where I back the song up to about 0:24 and listen again.

Right behind Mr. Brownstone as my favorite Gn'r Track. : ok:

This is one song that would sound great on a "Use Your Illusion...Naked" type album.

I agree although id go further and say the wole UYI set would do weel being pared down and remastered in a rawer way. Particulary, it'd be great if Izzys guitars were audible like on Appetite and Lies and Sorums drum sound was radically overhauled

It would be great if Axl would re-release those albums, give fans something to chew on for a few years until the new album.

I hate to think about it hypothetically, as it should have been one the best albums recorded.

We really dont know the exact cirumstances why the band pushed for a double album but if only someone had only sat the band down and skimmed through the bulk of UYI material recorded, down to the specific songs you listed we could have been listening to Chinese Democracy years ago.

I mean if UYI was one disc comprised of your choice songs, GnR wouldnt have just followed up AFD, but in my eyes they would have outdone it. A killer sophmore release would have lit a unwavering flame under Axl's ass to keep the timeless classics coming and I doubt he would have gone back into hiding with that much critical praise to his name.

I agree 100 percent. The polished and overproduced final product is what stopped UYI from being timeless.  UYI did not stand the test of time. It was considered good at the time of its release, but was so dated it was quickly forgotten when the grunge movement started. The only thing the albums are remembered for is breaking a few records.

Maybe that's what *you* remember it for. Those are still two of the best rock albums ever. And Richard Fuckin' Nixon has spoken!

Seriously, a Meatloaf song? Haha.

Jesus christ........

I like that part is very freaky and represents the breakdown he's passing through, is like some paranoid or delusional song I compare it with sweeting bullets by megadeth but not the music just the meaning of it and how well it fits and get you to feel that way  : ok:

Now "Sweating Bullets" is a GREAT tune!!!!!  Dave rules!

This song reminds me nostalgia in the beggining.
Very beautiful tunes. The lyrics are samples of poetry. "We all coming from the cold, we come down.... warm themselves to a different fire". Perhaps it means that we all grow up with a common sense about the world and later we develop our believes, our ideas, our hopes e.t.c.
 
The ending dissapoints me though and the chorus as well.

Awesome song, definately one of my favorites off UYI..? I actually don't care for the chorus and the end.. But the music and lyrics are so great that it doesn't matter..

Can someone repost the live version? Or send it to me?

People who wish to post their "UYI on one cd" tracklists, should use this thread: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=24374.0



/jarmo