Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Don't get me wrong, as a fan I loved 2 albums cause i would have more material to listen to, but if they wanted to make a MONSTER album, they should have made some cuts and made it just one album. Think about it. There would be no fillers just all great songs

Fillers ?? I don't find any...

My world?!

ya i agree that would have been a kick ass album start to finish, no skipping some songs, but it would have been choppy, a ballad here, a fast song there.

as for appetite, its just right start to finish, thats why it can't be topped as an album

well yeah but that is outro...And what the fuckin' FILLER last less than minute that isn't there for fill some space

i couldn't of said it better myself
shlump

I don't think that UYI has too many fillers. And when I put all the songs on both UYI together... it's not possible on one CD. And for topping Appetite.... I think Appetite will never get topped coz it is the first thing that comes to people's minds when they think of GN'R. It's impossible to repeat that. It was THE album that made GN'R big and yeah... you can do whatever the fuck you want, you won't top it. [peace]

IMO, filler material on UYIs includes:

Get in the Ring
My World
Back off Bitch
Right Next Door to Hell
You Ain't the First
Bad Apples
Shotgun Blues

If they had removd these tracks and cut out one version of Don't Cry, Dead Horse, So Fine, Double Talkin' Jive, Knockin' on Heaven's Door and Civil War, then what would have been left would have been as good as AFD IMO.

/Pretty

I like all those songs...well maybe except My World.. [peace]

would it be possible to have an album be that long though?

tracks would be

1.  Breakdown (7 min)
2.  Garden (5 min)
3.  Don't Damn Me (5 minutes)
4.  Yesterdays (3 min)
5.  Estranged (9 min)
6.  Pretty Tied up (5 min)
7.  14 years (4 min)
8.  Dust N' Bones (5 min)
9.  Locomotive (8 min)
10. Bad Obsession (5 min)
11. November Rain (8 min)
12. You Could Be Mine (6 min)
13. The Garden of Eden (3 min)
14. Don't Cry (5 min)
15. Coma (10 min)

...so that's an 88 minute long cd?  ...that's a pretty damn long cd

i think the way Gn'r handled the Illusions was the best way to do it, especially when you consider that axl hasn't released anything new since then, imagine if they only released one album and that was it...

and we never heard all the tracks left off those albums, i think that would kinda suck

that is a very VERY good point. if that happened, it would be terrible and such an awful shame. it could have happened and im glad it didnt. personally i dont see any fillers on the illusions, although i hate 'my world' but as someone previously mentioned, it's hardly long enough to bother with at all.

i think it was the best way do the albums... i think if they had a little more work, like more time to work on them. they coulda been way better. cuz  i heard that they were released way before the band was ready.

you aint the first isnt really suppose to be a good song... its a drinkin song.

and the two albums were made into one another and released called use your illusion with songs from the two albums. (i saw it at K-mart and im not too sure when it was released)



 [beer] [beer]

Even if 'you aint the first' wasnt ment to be a good song i think it fuckin rocks!!

I've seen that "best of" Use Your Illusion too but never really been that intrested in getting it.

I think some of the material should've been held onto for future release, rather than trying to release it all at once.

The filler on the UYI albums IMO:

My World
Get in the Ring
Back Off Bitch
Shotgun Blues
Garden Of Eden
You Ain't the First


That wasn't a "Best of" compilation.  That was the Wal-Mart and K-Mart edited version of the two albums.  Notice how all the songs on that CD are the UYI songs without curse words.  Don't buy that album.  If you do, you are supporting the two Marts' censorship policies.

 Hey,
  I don't think any of the material was filler on these albums. From time to time I am always jamming one of them except "My World." I don't even acknowledge that as a song, I put it on to laugh sometime.
                                                   -Justin

Ok, if you FORCED me to take out songs, I don't know what I could part with. Let's see...

nope I cant pick any. Maybe you aint the first, my world, get in the ring... but with the exception of my world I still get into all those songs. I really love everything Guns did on UYIs, and it alternates. Sometimes I wanna hear Dead Horse or Don't Damn Me. Then I wanna hear locomotive and pretty tied up, you know. There's so much great stuff. How can you call this filler?! [beer] [hihi] [peace]

I don't think UYI would have been better than AFD if, you tryed to make it on one CD. Thank God they did put out two albums.  [yes] That was so cool how Guns N' Roses put out two cd's. If they just put out one cd that would have changed their history so much. I don't think the UYI World Tour would have been that long.  :-\

I think U Y I albums are the best albums ...they are perfect!!!
I love appetite for destruction !!!!!!!!!!!!!too

This is a good topic. I've been trying for somewhile to work out a way for a best songs on UYI on one disc. For me UYI is more important than AFD and I think, while not having the cultural impact, probably contains better music, easily. UYI songs are not ... ah... filler, but they could have been put elsewhere, in a box set. I think the centerpiece has to be Estranged, the opening song You Could Be Mine, and the final track Coma. November Rain and some other great tracks could have been put out as an EP or something. This isn't the order I'd go w/ but these are the songs I'd pick....
1. You Could Be Mine
2. Don't Damn Me
3. Dead Horse
4. Don't Cry (pick one)
5. Estranged
6. Coma
7. Locomotive
8. Breakdown
9. Pretty Tied Up
10. Dust N' Bones
11. Civil War
12. Yesterdays
13. The Garden

There's some mixed tempo stuff, some strange stuff, long stuff, loud stuff, ballads, deep lyrics, 'fuck off lyrics'. But I like how it worked out, no matter what.

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Dust N' Bones
3. You Could Be Mine
4. Don't Cry (Original)
5. Breakdown
6. Locomotive
7. 14 Years
8. November Rain
9. Civil War
10. So Fine
11. Yesterdays
12. Estranged
13. Get In The Ring
14. Don't Damn Me
15. Dead Horse
16. Coma

KOHD and LALD as a double a-side/non album-single, Pretty Tied Up, Bad Obesssion, Double Talkin' Jive, The Garden and You Ain't The First as b-sides.

I would never wanna miss Double Talkin' Jive... I'll try but I think I won't be able to manage to make one UYI cd but let's see:

(no particular order)

Right Next Door To Hell
Dust N'Bones
Perfect Crime
Live And Let Die
Don't Cry
Double Talkin' Jive
November Rain
Garden Of Eden
Dead Horse
Coma
Civil War
Yesterdays
Breakdown
Estranged
Locomotive
Pretty Tied Up
You Could Be Mine

Well, as you can see it doesn't really work for me and the songs that I now left out - I still wouldn't wanna miss them. And honestly I don't think that it would have made the Illusions better than Appetite if they were on one CD.

could UYI have been one the greatest albums of all time if gnr pulled a led zepplin and only made an album 8 or 9 songs.

Just think of UYI was this track listing.

civil war
coma
Dont Cry
pretty tied up
Nov rain
breakdown
locomotive
estranged
ycmb

civil war-double talkin jive-nov rain-don't damn me-estranged-breakdown-dust n' bones-locomotive-coma. An album of epics and a few Izzy tunes!

I will go on record as saying i believe the double UYI albums ARE the greatest albums ever released

I once believed the albums were blighted by filler.....then i really listened. Every track on there (except My world) is pure genius.

The album is best as is.

Maybe it could have lost a few songs ("Bad Apples," "My World," "Bad Obsession") but theres always going to be someone whose favorite song would have been cut.  I guarantee everybodys 10 song track-listings would be wildly different.

As a complete album, it might not work as good as it could have.  But as a collection of songs, its as good as possible and thats even better as far as Im concerned.

Well, we pretty much got the a sides, b sides and some c sides! They almost cleared the shelves. However, Get in the Ring is a complete embarrassment to the band. They did not have to stoop that low.

I agree.  I like the albums the way they are.  Everybody likes different songs off them, I mean, personally, I love Bad Apples, but a lot of people see it as filler.  I'd hate to miss out on most of the songs on UYI.

Besides, Led Zep songs sound a lot more similar to each other than those songs listed... I just don't think it'd flow that well, and it would become too tiring to listen to about half way through.

No Way!  I fuckin love Bad Apples!  hehe.... the albums are perfect as they are... how can anyone say an album should have less songs? I dont get that... I love all the songs... but if you dont like the songs... skip them, and be pleased you got value for money considering you got all those songs... !!!

You see, this is why abridging the album would have been a bad idea...

I like "Get In The Ring"...Warranted or not, Axls venom on that song is certainly entertaining, and the track itself is very catcy.  I could have done without some of the vocal touches and production effects (I would have liked to hear a more raw version), but a good song either way.

We come back to the same problem, everyone's track preferences would be different.

The reason the band included just about every song they had written is they weren't sure how long they would be together.  The Illusion sessions themselves were a hurdle to get over.

Hence, GN'R fans got two records - somewhat similar to the Beatles' White Album.

Noooo! I love bad apples! I think that its one of the best bluesy songs on those albums. I love the verses too.

This is another example, though, of how everyone has different tastes. So many people love the song Double Talkin jive, but its really a song i dont like at all. The only thign i like about it is the spanish guitar solo, and how they extend it all on the UYI tour. It's really good then, but the actual song I think sucks.

I almost agree with you Dave, it could?ve been even more successful (but not the greates t album of all time, not better than AFD) if it was only one album plus a bonus CD (that could come with a special edition of UYI or sold separatly) including all the other tracks that stayed out of it... In fact, even that wouldn?t be necessary, if they'd put those songs in the singles... And I think that's Axl's intension to Chinese Democracy, at least from everything he said up to now (that thing that CD would have 16-18 tracks plus others in its singles, remember?)!

About the zepplin cover song, I think TSI could?ve also be a HUGE album if it was not only a punk cover (although I don?t hear anything of punk rock in "Since I Don?t Have You"). It could also include the cover songs of the illusions (that?s why I didn?t included them down here)... I'll post a new topic about this specific subject...
( http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=9625 )

Use Your Illusion... Revisited:

01. Civil War
02. Right Next Door to Hell
03. You Could Be Mine
04. Double Talkin Jive
05. November Rain
06. Shotgun Blues
07. Yesterdays
08. Estranged
09. Don?t Damn Me
10. Don?t Cry
11. Coma

yeah... that would work fine....
Buy Use Your Illusion! the fine album of GNR! and if you like it, buy the extra separate bonus CD! Use you ilusions 2!!  : ok: (its the same shit..)

Don?t think it?s the same thing because both illusions have amazing great songs, and both illusions have "not that much great" songs.

In the case I?m exposing, the main CD would have the really great songs, and the other would be only the B-sides, which not everyone would be interested to buy... that's just utopia, man! Fact: the illusions are out there released the way they are and there?s no way to go back (unless uncle Axl re-record it with the new band and etc... but that?s a looong, long trip).

i agree with booker!

think about it, gnr made 3 full length cds, 3 of the greatest cds of all time

see now why i dont doubt axl and C.D.?

I think that if they put hust the best songs, they could have time to work in the other songs (I agree that all UYI songs are great) and make them, a classic too. In IYU there's a lot of songs with amazing potential that could be realy better (Pefect Crime, Locomotive, Shotgun Blues, Breakdown (I love this one), Dust N' Bones...). So, this would be my tracklist:

01. You Could be Mine
02. Civil War
03. Pretty Tied Up
04. Don't Cry
05. The Garden
06. Dead Horse
07. Don't Damm Me
08. November Rain
09. Estranged
10. Perfect Crime ('cause if they've worked in less songs at that time, this song would be a TOP 5 all time in GN'R songs)

The covers would be on TSI.

And I don't think they'd release B-sides with the other songs, they'd make another CD after spending more time working with the other songs and Crash Diet on CD...

I think it could be, but definitely not with that track listing, in my opinion itd be this:

1. Civil War
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Yesterdays
4. Don't Cry
6. November Rain
7. Knockin on Heaven's Door(my fav gnr song ever, even tho its a cover they made that song kick some major ass)
8. Estranged
9. Back off Bitch
10. Coma

It's a valid thought, but I don't think the overall material (no matter what 10 tracks you pick) could garner that kind of acclaim.

I think they should have worked on it(them) for 10 or 11 more years than it would have been even better ;D ;D ;D(I know, I'm just being a prick :hihi:).

I think Use Your Illusions is the greatest album of all time...just the way it is.  Think about it, it really is just one double album released as 2 discs.

I personally prefer UYI as they are

Perfect Crime is perfect. Don't mess with it.

yes way better, but they r the way they r and we can't change it. Here's my list

1) Civil War
2) Dust N' Bones
3) Live and Let Die
4) 14 Years
5) Knockin on Heaven's Door
6) Bad Obsession
7) Shotgun Blues
8) Pretty Tied Up
9) November Rain
10) Perfect Crime
11) Don't Cry
12) Estranged
13) The Garden
14) Locomotive
15) Coma
i know it was that if the album was shorter with the best songs, but seeing as their are 30 in the 2 albums i took my fav 15 from both.

The main reason I'm such a huge GN'R fan is because I love all their songs. They were the first band I got into where I loved EVERY SINGLE SONG they released.
Unlike some other bands that have one or two good songs and the rest fillers.

My only complaint about UYI might be is that they are a little overproduced, but otherwise I hold them in regard as THE best rock albums ever recorded.
You can't go past Slash's brilliant guitar work, Axl's amazingly emotional vocals and lyrics, Matt's great drum work, Izzy's great songwriting and Duff's cool bass lines, that all add up to two kick ass albums! :beer:

i agree totally metallex

only two bands in the history of music that i can honestly say i love every single song on every single album and they are guns  n roses and bon jovi

no other group can i say that i love very single song like its a number 1 smash

If the band had released that only Axl/ballad fans would have liked it. i mean not one Izzy sung song. Are you mad??

Coma is a pile of shit compared to DTJ
Breakdown is also fairely disposable. (the band obviously felt so as those 2 where rarely performed live yet dtj was performed every night)

If you replaced them 2 with  DTJ and 14 Years and maybe one more song i would agree with you.
As long as the remainder are released as b-sides

Hey guy, I love Perfect Crime too, but I think this song got a potential to be a single if they worked a little bit more on it.
 :beer:

I'm the same, but the two bands I love every single song of are GN'R & Metallica.
I was Bon Jovi fan up until Keep The Faith, which I still think is BJ's best album.

I'm just curious, because I think Perfect Crime is great as it is, what do you think could be improved in the song?

dtj better than coma or breakdown?

are u insane?

it was played on the tour for two reasons,

1. so axl could do his famous rants

2. cause it had a nice 4 or 5 minute break for axl to go backstage, rest, get something to drink, relax and change clothes

Don't forget LIES, i adore that album, every track on there is fanastic.

If axl played breakdown he would be sititing down at a piano, plus during dtj he runs like a maniac

I don't understand why people automatically consider Breakdown, Coma, Estranged genius just because there long, complex, piano laden and have emotional lyrics.

It's actually a lot harder to write quality RaR. Simple stuff because it's already been done.

Coma is my 2nd worst gnr song after my world, it is too long for a start and too heavy metal (which I detest)

Yes,for me uyi 1,2 was the best albums of 90's but :
1.civil war
2.pretty tied up
3.don't cry
4.you could be mine
5.kohd
6.november rain
7.locomotive
8.breakdown
9.estranged
10.back of bitch
11.dead horse

have been the best album for all time

We're all about opinions here, but please don't spout nonsense...Coma...''heavy metal'', Slayer are heavy metal, if you think Coma sounds like Slayer....well :nervous:

Coma is not my favourite song but it is a very good song with some amazing lyrics, it takes some time to get used to for sure, you just need a little patience with it....

That riff, it is clearly Sabbath influenced.
Sabbath=heavymetal

what the hell are gnr then? hall and oates?

gnr are punk pop metal rock all kinds of groovy little titles

Coma is in my top 10 gnr songs ever

coma is a song that if u have ever went thru tramatic, near death walkin thru hell and back type shit u will love it greater than any song

same with oh my god etc

some gnr songs are harder to get cause u have to be able to relate and most people fortunatley havent had to deal with those kinds of evil horrible issues

i have dealt with those issues so maybe thats why i and a lot of others on here relate so personally to it

it did when uyi 1 survivor!

Guns N' Roses are a Hard Rock band, or a RaR band. With other influences like punk and elton john

I may be getting to technical but there style is bluesbased, most metal is derived from modes

Izzy and Slash where into the stones and aerosmith, there not metal. Axls into acdc, thin lizzy, elton john and queen.Duff-punk.

hmmm..GNR made (five members!)..not only Axl, but I look also forward to see what Axl has come up with C.D.

yes but axl was apart of that and i dont think axl will let it suck just like i dont think VR's cd will suck
any full on effort by any member of gnr will kick ass cause they havent disappointed yet

well except solo discs but im sure those werent meant to be blockbusters just solo shit

axl has a great vision

estranged, coma, i mean these arent ordinary songs

a man that has the vision to write epics to me is more than a great musician

C.D. will be 5 times greater than any gnr cd

any bets?

ill bet 5 on it

i have confidence in axl

Man, what I mean is, even Bohemian Rhapsody got potencial to be better, all songs can be better. And, in my opinion, Perfect Crime could be really better even being an amazing song.For example, look at the new songs. They were great songs, but, working more on this songs they became better then in the past.

Ps.: Don't forget it's just my opinion, I don't "own the truth".

I'm glad to have found a GNR message board where I can throw this out.  I think one of the most disappointing events in the last 20 years of Rock and Roll is that Use Your Illusion could have easily been one of the greatest albums in history.  As it is, the material that would have been used to make such an album gets bogged down in an indecipherable mess of adolescent whining or self-indulgent (and sometimes borderline delusional) fits of rage.  The "why" here (i.e. Axl Rose's ego) can be discussed and debated endlessly, but I've always preferred to focus on the tangible content.  

If you were to construct a one-disc album of the 10 or 11 best songs from the two albums (assuming the left-overs could be released on a follow up b-sides disc, or whatever) which would you choose and in what order?  I like:

1) You Could Be Mine
2) Don't Cry
3) Civil War
4) Don't Damn Me
5) November Rain
6) Garden of Eden
7) Locomotive
8) You Ain't the First
9) Estranged
10) Yesterdays
11) Breakdown

Obviously no two lists will be the same but I'd like to know what others think.  I would challenge anyone, however, to construct a playlist of the above and tell me that it isn't one of the best albums ever.  What say you?

Also, sorry if I'm "beating a dead horse" here but I didn't see a similar thread in my search of the boards.

you could be mine
dont damn me
locomotive
estranged
back off bitch
pretty tied up
perfect crime
dont cry
dead horse
coma
get in the ring

Your search would have led to the "Dead Horse" section.

As for the list, i dunno. It was released the way it was, i can accept it

Lots of threads here are beating a dead horse, but this one is fun:

1. Dust N' Bones
2. Live and Let Die
3. Dont Cry (original)
4. Dont Damn Me
5. Double Talkin Jive
6. November Rain
7. Dead Horse
8. Coma

9.   Civil War
10. 14 Years
11. Breakdown
12. Pretty Tied Up
13. Locomotive
14. Estranged
15. YCBM

And The Garden as a hidden track.


I say you is right!

It could have been the biggest album ever xcept there on 2 albums and there are some fillers on it

The Illusions are perfect as a double album.  The only song I dont much care for is My World.  The rest is brilliant material.

I'll try to go with 10 or 11 for a single disc, but it'll probably be more like 15.

1)Right Next Door to Hell
2)Civil War
3)Perfect Crime
4)Breakdown
5)Back off Bitch
6)Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence)
7)Double Talkin' Jive
8.)Locomotive
9)Dead Horse
10)So Fine
11)Estranged
12)You Could Be Mine
13)Dont Cry (alt)
14)Coma

Its a bitch to have to leave November Rain off that list...but I cant take any of the other songs off if it either!!

With 11 songs as the limit, here's my list..

  1. Right Next Door To Hell
  2. Civil War
  3. Perfect Crime
  4. Dead Horse
  5. Don't Cry (original)
  6. Yesterdays
  7. Coma
  8. Don't Damn me
  9. November Rain
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Estranged

Try the dead horse section.....

Listen to all the songs u claim are rubbish and u will realise they ain't.

Some songs take time. I been listening to UYI 1 and 2 for 10 years and only this year has Coma 'clicked' with me.

Put the volume on max, listen to the lyrics and try and understand the point being made. U will be amazed how songs grew on you. I never liked Locomotive, but now i can't stop listening to it.

also, this goes for all the critics of the UYI albums. Look at everyone's lists of songs. Each person likes different songs, how many great songs would be lost if the album was just 12 songs?

My fav song of all time is 14 years. That would have gone bye bye

I don't know how people can criticise a band for giving them too much....... ::)

That is so true. I've been listening to illusions for 10 years too and in the last 2 or 3 I could have made a compilation CD of songs I like from them easily, except for one thing - It doesn't work.

Why doesn't it work I hear you ask? Because my ideal tracklisting would change every week, if not every day. Every song is good, and they all demand listening to. There's no song I could say "I'll never be in the mood to hear that again".

Use Your Illusion I and II are brilliant as they are, and should be considered classics.

@#$%Muther

Perfect Crime
You Could Be Mine
Don't Damn Me
14 Years
Don't Cry
Civil War
Yesterdays
Dead Horse
November Rain
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
Estranged
Coma

1. Get In The Ring
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Live And Let Die
4. Don't Cry
5. Civil War
6. Yesterdays
7. November Rain
8. Coma
9. Estranged
10. Breakdown
11. Locomotive

Don't Cry
Bad Obsession
November Rain
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
Coma
Civil War
Breakdown
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
Estranged
You Could Be Mine

This maybe been mentioned earlier in this thread. But there is a album called Use Your Illusion (1998) which contains these tracks:

Live And Let Die
Don't Cry (Original)
You Ain't The First
November Rain
The Garden
Dead Horse
Civil War
14 Years
Yesterdays
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Estranged
Don't Cry (Alt Lyrics)

My tracklist for today (It'll probably look different tomorrow) from UYI 1 & UYI 2 would've been:

November Rain
Estranged
Coma
Don't Cry
You Could Be Mine
Locomotive
Civil War
Yesterdays
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Dead Horse
So Fine
Get In The Ring

Right Next Door To Hell
Dust N' Bones
14 Years
Knockin On Heaven's Door
Bad Obsession
Perfect Crime
Don't Damn Me
Coma
Locomotive
Breakdown
Pretty Tied Up
Don't Cry
Estranged
November Rain
Civil War

1. You Could Be Mine
2. Back Off Bitch
3. 14 Years
4. Don't Cry (Original)
5. Locomotive
6. Breakdown
7. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
8. November Rain
9. Don't Damn Me
10. Live And Let Die
11. Yesterdays
12. Coma
13. Double Talkin' Jive
14. Civil War
15. Dead Horse
16. Estranged

1. Civil War
2. Bad Obsession
3. Don't Cry
4. Yesterdays
5.Bad Apples
6. You Could Be Mine
7. Breakdown
8. November Rain
9. Estranged
10. Double Talkin' Jive
11. Coma

Hidden Track Get In The Ring] :beer:

in no particular order......

Right Next Door To Hell  
Dust N' Bones  
Live And Let Die            
Back Off Bitch                    
November Rain                          
Bad Apples          
Dead Horse          
Coma  
Civil War  
14 Years    
Yesterdays
Knockin' On Heaven's Door        
Breakdown                        
Estranged
You Could Be Mine          
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)  
Shotgun Blues      

1.Right Next Door To Hell
2.Live And Let Die
3.Dont Cry
4.Bad Obsession
5.November Rain
6.THe Garden
7.Coma
8.Civil War
9.Yesterdays
10.Knockin On Heavens Door
11.Breakdown
12.Pretty Tied Up
13.Estranged
14.You Could Be Mine
15.Get In The Ring
16.14 Years
17.Double Talkin Jive
18.You Aint The First

Maybe this one

1. Civil War
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Perfect Crime
4. Don't Cry
5. Dust N' Bones
6. Double Talkin' Jive
7. Pretty Tied Up
8. Bad Obsession
9. Estranged/November Rain
10. Garden Of Eden
11. The Garden
12. Coma

 I :crying: for Locomotive, Back Off Bitch and Bad Apples

Track Listing for one Illusion:

1. November Rain
2. So Fine
3. Breakdown
4. Dead Horse
5. You Ain't The First
6. Don't Cry
7. Estranged
8. Live and Let Die
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Coma
11. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
12. Civil War
13. Dust N' Bones
14. 14 Years
15. Yesterdays
16. Right Next Door To Hell

i just did this today without knowing about this thread, just for fun. i even made myself a little cover art...

(http://idisk.mac.com/bfreeby/Public/choose_illusion.jpg)

Guns N' Roses | Choose Your Own Illusion

1.Perfect Crime
2.Civil War
3.Yesterdays
4.Live And Let Die
5.Back Off Bitch
6.Don't Damn Me
7.14 Years
8.Estranged
9.Don't Cry (original, of course)
10.You Could Be Mine
11.Dust N' Bones
12.Knockin' On Heaven's Door
13.Dead Horse
14.You Ain't The First
15.November Rain

Great artwork dude!!!!!  : ok:


Use Your Illusion
  1. Right Next Door To Hell
  2. Live And Let Die
  3. Don't Cry (Original)
  4. You Ain't The First
  5. Dust N' Bones
  6. Civil War
  7. 14 Years
  8. November Rain
  9. The Garden
10. Yesterdays
11. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
12. You Could Be Mine
13. Estranged
14. Don't Cry (Alternate)

 :love:

1.   You could be mine
2.   Right Next door to hell
3.   Perfect Crime
4.   Double talkin' jive
5.   Shotgun blues
6.   Don't damn me
7.   Garden of Eden
8.   Loco-motive
9.   Back off bitch
10. Coma
11. Get in the ring
12. My world

My Tracklist..
1. Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
2. Bad Apples
3. November Rain
4. Back Off Bitch
5. Estranged
6. Coma
7. Don't Damn Me
8. 14 Years
9. Dust N' Bones
10. So Fine
11. You Could Be Mine
12. Yesterdays
13. Locomotive
14. Bad Obsession
15. Live And Let Die
16. You Ain't The First
17. Knockin' On Heaven's Door/Pretty Tied Up (Hidden Bonus Track)

I just love the ILUSSIONS. Both of them. But I absolutely agree that it would be much greater album if it was only one. I think that these are the most appropriate songs for it.

1. LIVE AND LET DIE
2. DON'T CRY (original)
3.PERFECT CRIME
4.YOU AIN'T THE FIRST
5. BAD OBSESSION
6. DOUBLE TALKIN' JIVE
7.THE GARDEN
8.GARDEN OF EDEN
9.BAD APPLES
10. COMA
11.CIVIL WAR
12.YESTERDAYS
13.PRETTY TIED UP
14.SO FINE
15.ESTRANGED
16.YOU COULD BE MINE
 
   

There is no way you can leave out November Rain. I realize this is all opinionated,  but it is just wrong to leave out the song that practically defined the GnR of the 90's. Without this song, I strongly doubt they would be even half as famous.

There is no way you can leave out November Rain. I realize this is all opinionated,  but it is just wrong to leave out the song that practically defined the GnR of the 90's. Without this song, I strongly doubt they would be even half as famous.


 Hey man, there is some thruth in your opinion, according to me. But I think that the real GUNS N' ROSES attitude was damaged with NOVEMBER RAIN. There is no doubt, that this is a great ballad but it's not for GUNS N' ROSES.
  It is true that they wouldn't be so famous, but I don't like GUNS because they were or are famous. I don't care about the famous. I love their songs, their lyrics, their attitude, their behaviour and everything else.

 I'm sorry if my English is not perfect, but I'm still learning it.

OK,My list:

 Live and let die. (A much better cover than KOHD)
 Dont Cry (Original)
 Dust N' Bones.
 November Rain.
 Dead Horse (Underrated!!)
 Coma. :D
 Civil War.
 Breakdown.
 Pretty tied up.
 Estranged.
 You could be mine.
 

1.Right Next Door To Hell
2.Yesterdays
3.You Could Be Mine
4.Let And Let Die
5.Knocking On Heaven's Door
6.November Rain
7.Bad Apples
8.Estranged
9.Coma
10.The Garden
11.14 Years
12.Bad Obsession

in no order

1. Civil War
2. Back Off Bitch
3. Don't Cry
4. Locomotive
5. Live and Let Die
6. November Rain with It's Alright intro.
7. Breakdown
8. Double Talkin' Jive
9. Estranged
10. Pretty Tied Up
11. Coma
12. Don't Cry
13. KOHD

Here's my list:

Live and Let Die
Civil War
Dont Cry
November Rain
Estranged
Dead Horse
Knockin On Heavens Door
Pretty Tied Up
You could Be Mine
14 Years
Dont Damn Me
Dust N' Bones

There's My 2 Cents

Slashisthebest

1. civil war
2.live and let die
3. dont cry
4.estranged
5. you could be mine
6. get in the ring
7. the garden
8. knocking on heavens door
9. locomotive
10. dust n bones
11. november rain
12. dont dam me

My updated list:

01. You Could be Mine
02. Pretty Tied Up
03. Don?t Cry
04. November Rain
05. Civil War
06. Double Talkin? Jive
07. Don?t Damm Me
08. Estranged
09. Locomotive
10. The Garden
11. Dead Horse
12. Yesterdays
13. Breakdown
14. Coma

As I said before, LALD and HOHD would be on TSI (with 3 vidoes, along with Since I ... You)

My suggestion.

1.Civil War
2.Bad Obsession
3.Don?t Cry
4.Get in The Ring
5.14 Years
6.You Could Be Mine
7.Locomotive
8.Double Talkin?Jive
9.Live And Let Die
10.November Rain
11.Perfect Crime
12.So Fine
13.Pretty Tied Up
14.Knockin? On Heaven?s Door
15.Estranged

1. Right Next Door to Hell
2. Civil War
3. Breakdown
4. Don't Cry
5. Perfect Crime
6. You Could Be Mine
7. Double Talking Jive
8. Coma
9. You Aint the First
10. Dust and Bones
11. November Rain
12. Pretty Tied Up
13. Dead Horse
14. Estranged
15. KOHD

For one album, I would pick the following

1.  Right Next Door To Hell
2.  Dust N Bones
3.  Perfect Crime
4.  November Rain
5.  The Garden
6.  Garden Of Eden
7.  Don't Damn Me
8.  Bad Apples
9.  Civil War
10.  14 Years
11.  Yesterdays
12.  Pretty Tied Up
13.  Locomotive
14.  Estranged
15.  You Could Be Mine
16.  Don't Cry Alt. Lyrics

I don't even think that would fit on one CD, and there are songs I would still want to listen to.  The best idea would have been to cut out My World and Get In The Ring, and transfer a few songs from Illusion 1 onto disc 2.  The only songs I ever skip past on either disc are GITR and My World.  It's impossible to make it into one disc without leaving out some great songs.

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Civil War
3. Live and Let Die
4. Knockin On Heavens Door
5. Dont Damn Me
6. Get In The Ring
7. November Rain
8. Estranged
9. Don't Cry
10. You Could Be Mine
11. The Garden
12. Dead Horse
13. Coma
14. Locomotive
15. Yesterdays
16. Shotgun Blues

I have always liked Use Your Illusions, but always felt somewhat let down by them.  However, today I made a CD with my favorites and in the sequence I thought was cool.  Listening to it gave me a new appreciation for it and made me think of what could have been.  When you put the best songs on one CD, I think it could possibly be better than Appetite.  I think if they would have just released one CD of the best tracks there wouldn't have been such a media backlash and they may have weathered the grunge onslaught a little better.  When you get rid of all the filler, it really is an amazing albulm.  I am sure I am little late realizing this and everybody has probably already done this, but I thought I would share it anyways.  Here is my tracklist:

Perfect Crime
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
Locomotive
Dead Horse
November Rain
Pretty Tied Up
Don't Damn Me
Civil War
Estranged
Double Talkin' Jive
Coma

Nice track selection... I'd buy it.

There's nothing wrong with the UYI albums as they are, I wouldn't take off any tracks.

You can't really say that they did badly either due to the amount of songs, they debuted at Number 1 & 2 on the charts when they were released and continued to sell pretty damn well too.

I like they Illusions the way they are. I couldn't see them seprated and put on 1 cd.

I wouldn't, Ive got a release with much more songs on it!! :yes:

Holy shit I never get why people want LESS on an album...

"oh but it flows better". .... errr... whatever.  If YOU don't like the tracks... skip em!

Someone else DOES.

Bah... stupid thread.

Dust N Bones
Perfect Crime
Don't Cry
Bad Obsession
Back off Bitch
Double Talkin Jive
November Rain
Dont Damn Me
Coma
Civil War
14 years
Shotgun Blues
Pretty Tied Up
You Could Be Mine

Civil War
The Garden
Perfect Crime
Pretty Tied Up
Back off Bitch
You Could Be Mine
Yesterdays
Breakdown
Estranged
Bad Obsession
Dead Horse
Coma

[quote
There is no way you can leave out November Rain. I realize this is all opinionated,  but it is just wrong to leave out the song that practically defined the GnR of the 90's. Without this song, I strongly doubt they would be even half as famous.

Although I agree that if there was to be a single CD Illusions, November Rain SHOULD be on it, but if it wasn't, I think it would be fair to say that Estranged would fill in for it. Estranged IMO is one of the best GnR songs.
What I'd like to know is what would have happened had it been on AFD... The other songs, and then Estranged. Would the reviews have been any different?
But..... here's my list. You evil, evil people!
1. You Ain't the First
2. Don't Cry (alt lyrics)
3. Civil War
4. The Garden
5. 14 Years
6. Dead Horse
7. Back Off Bitch
8. Get In The Ring
9. November Rain
10. Don't Damn Me
11. Yesterdays
12. Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence)
13. KOHD
14. Don't Cry (original)
15. Coma
16. Estranged

I put Estranged at the end so that when it ends, you feel nice and satisfied, instead of having to rush to switch back so you don't have to listen to My World... having that after Don't Cry really gives you a shock! DC just finishes, and you feel nice and relaxed, and then My World comes on and it makes you go "AAAH!" So having Estranged at the end makes for a nice ending.

this ain't easy, but i'll try.

1. breakdown
2. lokomotive
3. garden of eden
4. don't damn me
5. november rain
6. coma
7. civil war
8. KOHD
9. dead horse
10. back off bitch
11. get in the ring
12. estranged
13. my world

although there's still something missing. i like the difference in the UYIalbums.
i personally don't like this waltmart-illusions-cd.

I like the Illusions as they are, but okay, if there was only one single-disc Use Your Illusion album, this would be my tracklist:

1. Civil War
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Bad Obsession
4. Don't Cry [Original]
5. Yesterdays
6. Back Off Bitch
7. Breakdown
8. Don't Damn Me
9. The Garden
10. Estranged
11. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
12. Coma

I had to cut out November Rain, even though it was the song that got me into Guns N' Roses.  And that's because Estranged is even better, and there can only be one 10 minute piano epic with introspective lyrics and amazing Slash solos on this single-disc Use Your Illusion.  The thing I find is that there are so many long epic songs on the UYI albums that they practically HAVE to be on two discs to conserve all those long songs.  If you tried to fit them all on one record, there would be so many epic songs that you couldn't have good pacing, and you would miss out on a lot of rockers.

I think we're all glad GN'R put out two discs rather than one, for the simple reason that we got more great music!  And with a band as relatively short-lived as Guns N' Roses, I think that's another blessing for us to count.

1. Civil War
2.14 years
3.Locomotive
4.Don't Cry(alt lyrics)
5.YCBM
6.Estranged
7.Pretty Tied Up
8.Right next door to hell
9.Coma
10.Bad Obsession
11.Back of Bitch
12.Double Talking Jive
13.Live n let die
14.Dead Horse

I may have forgotten a couple here but never mind.

1. Don't Damn me
2. Dust n' Bones
3. Live and let die
4. Yesterdays
5. Pretty Tied up
6. You ain't the first
7. Locomotive
8. Double talkin' jive
9. 14 Years
10. Civil War
11. Dead Horse
12. You could be mine
13. Estranged
14. Coma

1.Civil War
2.Coma
3.Don?t Cry (alt.lyrics)
4.Breakdown
5.Don't damm me
6.You Could Be Mine
7.Locomotive
8.Dead Horse
9.Back off bitch
10.November Rain
11.Yesterdays
12.So Fine
13.Pretty Tied Up
14.Knockin? On Heaven?s Door
15.Estranged
16. 14 years

You know how there are those albums being released these days, the 'deluxe edition' or 'legend series' albums? For the uneducated basically it's the album, with a 2nd and/or 3rd cd of extra material with a dvd of the videos and doco's studio footage etc with everything remasterd, all in new packaging with a new booklet. I think it would be a great idea to have both UYI albums and and an extra cd of live songs + b-sides from that time. Along with a disc of all the videos and a doco or something. Who else agrees?

1.  "Civil War"
2.  "Dust N' Bones"
3.  "14 Years"
4.  "Live and Let Die"
5.  "Knockin' On Heaven's Door"
6.  "Don't Cry" (original)
7.  "Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence)"
8.  "November Rain"
9.  "Locomotive (Complicity)"
10.  "Don't Damn Me"
11.  "Estranged"
12.  "Coma"
13.  "You Could Be Mine"

I don't think any of the songs shouldn't have been Axed by Axl.  All were good/unique/artsy/rockin in thier own way.  Overall, each album alone are VERY long (vs. other rock n roll albums, which may only run 35 min!)
I know many of you agree that "my world" isn't all that good (I myself rarely listen to that track)...but when I do, it puts a twisted smile on my face---it's sorta funny. 
APF and UYIs are VERY different albums in every sense of the word--even when dealing with this topic of excessiveness vs. raw power.  But it still amazes me that GNR had the creativity to due such an act and pull it off VERY sucessfully!

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Live And Let Die
3. Don't Cry (original)
4. You Aint The First
5. Bad Obsession
6. Double Talkin' Jive
7. November Rain
8. The Garden
9. Garden Of Eden
10. Dead Horse
11. Coma
12. Civil War
13. 14 Years
14. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
15. Get In The Ring
16. Pretty Tied Up
17. Locomotive
18. Estranged
19. You Could Be Mine
20. My World

Yeah that's probably too long, maybe you could take out 14 years, you aint the first or bad obsession maybe

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Live And Let Die
3. Don't Cry (original)
4. You Aint The First
5. Bad Obsession
6. Double Talkin' Jive
7. November Rain
8. The Garden
9. Garden Of Eden
10. Dead Horse
11. Coma
12. Civil War
13. 14 Years
14. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
15. Get In The Ring
16. Pretty Tied Up
17. Locomotive
18. Estranged
19. You Could Be Mine
20. My World

Yeah that's probably too long, maybe you could take out 14 years, you aint the first or bad obsession maybe

1. Garden of Eden
2. Live and Let Die
3. Civil War
4. Pretty Tied Up
5. Don't Cry
6. Yesterdays
7. November Rain
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Locomotive
10. The Garden
11. Estranged
12. Coma

Don't Cry
Back Off Bitch
DTJ
November Rain
Garden Of Eden
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
Coma
14 Years
Breakdown
Locomotive
Estranged
YCBM

i can't...i like 'em just the way they are so i just can't decide. i could cut some songs i like less than the others but i'd still be more than 20 songs left, so i tried...but i can't.
JUST LEAVE 'EM!!!!

I believe a CD can only be 80 minutes long, so here's my tracklist (no order):

1.? Live and Let Die
2.? Don't Cry (original)
3.? Double Talkin' Jive
4.? November Rain
5.? Dead Horse
6.? Coma
7.? Civil War
8.? Knockin' On Heaven's Door
9.? Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence)
10.? Estranged
11.? You Could Be Mine
12.? Yesterdays
13.? Locomotive (Complicity)
14.? 14 Years
If there was a little more room, I'd add Dust N' Bones, Don't Damn Me, Bad Obsession, and Breakdown.

1.Coma
2.Knockin' On Heavens Door
3.Civil War
4.Right Next Door To Hell
5.Perfect Crime
6.You Could Be Mine
7.Breakdown
8.Estranged
9.Don't Cry (alt.)
10.My World
11.You Ain't The First
12.Don't Cry

This would be my tracklist
1. Knockin' On Heavens Door
2. 14 Years
3. Yesterdays
4. Dont Cry (Original)
5. November Rain
6. Estranged
7. You Could Be Mine
8. Dead Horse
9. Live and Let Die
10. Double Talkin' Jive
11. Civil War
12. So Fine
13. The Garden
14. Coma

These Songs Are Not In Any Order, its too hard to put them in order  :peace:

i like all the songs in both albums. gnr is one of the few bands that have majority if not all songs good in one single album. anyway if i really have to pick, here is my list:

1. right next door to hell
2. dont cry(original)
3. november rain
4. the garden
5. dont damn me
6. coma
7. civil war
8. knockin' on heaven's door
9. get in the ring
10. shotgun blues
11. pretty tied up
12. locomotive
13. estranged
14. double talkin' jive

i have to leave out you could be mine because i think this song is overrated, no thanks to the guy who running califonia now  ;D

I love all the songs on UYI1 and UYI2 but if I had to cut it down to 16, which I don't? ;) , it would be like this;

 1. Dust n' Bones
 2. Live and Let Die
 3. Perfect Crime
 4. You Ain't The First
 5. Back Off Bitch
 6. Double Talkin' Jive
 7. The Garden Of Eden
 8. Don't Damn Me
 9. 14 Years
10. Get In The Ring
11. Shotgun Blues
12. Breakdown (Let Me Hear You Now? ;D )
13. Pretty Tied Up
14. Locomotive
15. Estranged
16. You Could Be Mine

How long would this be? ???
I like the Garden alot too but I can't fit it? >:(

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

EDIT: Ahhh, I left out Don't Cry Alternative Lyrics, take off Breakdown

1.Right Next Door To Hell (Badass Opening Track)
2.Civil War
3.You Could Be Mine
4.Dust N' Bones
5.Knockin On Heavens Door
6.The Garden
7.Dont Cry (Original)
8.November Rain  <-------- Gotta have the video trilogy put back to back
9.Estranged
10.Garden Of Eden (pumps u back up after those three tracks depressed the fuck outta u)
11.Yesterdays
12.Bad Obession
13.Live and Let Die
14.Pretty Tied Up
15.Coma (GREAT CLOSING TRACK)

Summer 1991 Release Use Your Illusion 1 with this tracklisting.

Right Next Door To Hell
Perfect Crime
Don't Damn Me
Live and Let Die
Don't Cry
Double Talkin Jive
November Rain
Dead Horse
You Could Be Mine

Summer 1992 Release

Civil War
14 Years
Yesterdays
Knockin On Heavens Door
Pretty Tied Up
Garden of Eden
Breakdown
So Fine
Estranged

Summer 1993 Release B Sides and Punk Covers

Bad Obession
You Ain't the First
Back off Bitch
The Garden
Bad Apples
Shotgun Blues
Locomotive
Don't Cry (Alt Lyrics)
Since I Don't Have You
Attitude
Raw Power
Down on the Farm
Hair of the Dog

1. Perfect Crime
2. 14 years
3. Locomotive
4. Don't Cry (original)
5. You Could Be Mine
6. Back off Bitch
7. The Garden
8. November Rain
9. Bad Obsession
10. Estranged
11. Dont damn me
12. Yesterdays
13. Coma

Both albums are amazin from start to finish, why not a 2-disc album with all the same songs?! Even my world, which is one of the best songs in history!

Get in the Ring a filler??? This is on my personal best of GNR CD.

My Illusion album would be (although one album is not enough):

Civil War
Live and Let Die
Yesterdays
You Could Be Mine
Coma
Don't Cry (Original)
Bad Obsession
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Double Talkin' Jive
Get In The Ring
November Rain
Dead Horse
The Garden
Estranged
14 Years (Bonus Track)

To me the fillers are:

Breakdown
My World
Don't Cry (Alt Lyrics)
You Ain't the First

You Ain't the First and Don't Cry (Alt Lyrics) are definetley not filler? ???

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

:rofl:

There's so many songs on the Illusion twins that I simply skip on my mp3 player every time - so my "perfect" Use Your Illusion album would be as following:

1. You Could Be Mine 
2. Don't Damn Me 
3. Back Off Bitch 
4. Coma 
5. Dust N' Bones 
6. Knockin' On Heaven's Door   
7. Civil War 
8. 14 Years 
9. November Rain 
10. Breakdown   
11. Pretty Tied Up 
12. Locomotive (Complicity)
13. Estranged 
14. Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics) 

The fact that every single "best of" UYI list is different shows that it was probably for the best that GN'R released 2 albums. If the one UYI album had looked anything like the compilation released a few years ago, it would probably be collecting dust on my shelf now, rather than me still listening to both albums more than a year after i got them (yes I'm one of the greatest hits generation). But just for the hell of it:

1. Locomotive
2. Don't Cry
3. Dust N Bones
4. Don't Damn me
5. 14 Years
6. Double Talkin Jive
7. Civil War
8. You Could Be Mine
9. Estranged
10. Live & Let Die
11. November Rain

I think it probably would've been better to realease 2 separate albums under 2 separate titles.

That way, we'd still get to have ALL the songs, and not want to make cuts on the shite ones.  :P

Hey there all Izzy's songs dude!

What shite ones? >:(

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

the ones everyone keeps goin on about! :smoking:

i don't know why did you compare AFD and UYI?
tboth albums are great?
but different time and different style(little bit)!!!

My UYI will be like this:

1.you could be mine
2.pretty tied up
3.knockin on' heavens door
4.don't cry
5.civil war
6.coma
7.back of bitc
8.right next door to hell
9.yesterday
10.dead horse
11.breakdown
12.estranged

I would really consider finishing up Crash Diet and putting that one there. I listened to the Demo version that Jarmo has in the downloads section of this site and its one of the coolest fucking GnR songs Ive ever heard.

Why didnt they put that there but they put garbage like Shotgun Blues and Bad Apples on there?  :peace:

Ok, go to a record store their is a 1 CD version titled simply Use Your Illusion

1.pretty tied up
2.civil war
3.you could be mine
4.yesterday
5.don't cry
6.november rain
7.breakdown
8.locomotive
9.knockin on' heavens door
10 coma
11.back of bitch
12.estranged

I've been meaning to do this but the new Izzy book has been keeping me from doing anything else.  So here's my list (not in order )
1. Right Next door to Hell
2. 14 Years
3. Estranged
4. November Rain
5. You could be Mine
6.Don't Damn Me
7. Garden of Eden
8. Don't Cry original
9. Knocking on Heavens Door
10. Double Talkin Jive
11. Pretty Tied up
12. Patien... I mean locomotive (Hey if Axl supposedly mixed up tracks why can't I?)

they could have even released EP,S for years... 7 songs on each, one per year...... that way we would have beeen waiting less time by now.

I love all the tracks in use your illusion series could miss one yust love them all PEACE

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/i_want_photos/uyi2.jpg)          +   (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/i_want_photos/uyi1.jpg)     =

1. November rain
2. Estranged
3. So fine
4. Don`t cry
5. Civil war
6. Yesterday
7. 14 years
8. Dead horse
9. You could be mine
10. Garden of Eden
11. Bad obsession
12. You ain`t the first
13. Pretty tied up
14. Knockin on heaven`s door

There are no filler songs and u can think my world just as a extra track there it dont bother me cuz ill listen to it : ok:

The good thing is that there are enough fillers that many of us like and others that don't like. Each one has his own preference in fillers too.

e.g.
I love back off bitch, think about you (AFD), dust n' bones, right next door to hell.
Others would like, don't damn me, bad apples,  you ain't the first, or bad obssesion

The diversity of the two albums makes them unique.  : ok:
Thank god we have the fillers  :D

1. Breakdown
2. Don't Cry
3. Civil War
4. 14 Years
5. November Rain
6. You Ain't The First
7. Dust N' Bones
8. So Fine
9. The Garden
10. Back Off Bitch
11. Estranged
12. Dead Horse
13. Pretty Tied Up
14. You Could Be Mine
15. Double Talkin' Jive
16. Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)

1. right next door to hell
2. back off bitch
3. civil war
4. dont damn me
5. estranged
6. locomotive
7. pretty tied up
8. the garden
9. dead horse
10. november rain
11. you could be mine
12. dont cry
13. perfect crime
14. coma

I wished they just released something like this than like a year later released b-sides. If they did that Then I think this cd would be bigger than appetite. I know id like it more

I saw this thread a long time ago but I wanted to created a great list of my own and here it goes  :nervous:

1.- Dust and Bones
2.- Back off Bitch
3.- Double talking Jive
4.- November rain
5.- The Garden
6.- Dead Horse
7.- Coma
8.- Civil war
9.- Get in the Ring
10.- Breakdown
11.- Locomotive
12.- Estranged
13.- My world

 :yes:

I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH GOOD STUFF FOR ONE RECORD..SO HERE IS MY TWO WITH SOME SONGS DELETED THAT I FEEL WERE B-SIDES OR OUTTAKES FROM AFD OR SOUNDTRACK SONGS WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED FOR A B-SIDES CD. 

RNDTH                                          CIVIL WAR
DNB                                              14 YEARS
LALD                                             YESTERDAYS
PERFECT CRIME                             DEAD HORSE
BAD OBSESSION                            BREAKDOWN
DOUBLE TALKIN JIVE                      PRETTY TIED UP
NOVEMBER RAIN                            LOCOMOTIVE     
GARDEN OF EDEN                          THE GARDEN
DON'T DAMN ME                            YCBM
COMA                                            ESTRANGED

The 12 tracks that would make the cut for me (not neccessarily in this order) are -

Use Your Illusion I

Don't Cry (Original)
Perfect Crime
Double Talkin' Jive
November Rain
Don't Damn Me


Use Your Illusion II

Civil War
Yesterdays
Breakdown
Locomotive
So Fine
Estranged
You Could Be Mine

Replace 'Breakdown' with Civil War and '14 years' with Double Talking Jive  : ok:

imagine if it was just 1 album...

Civil War
Dust N Bones
Garden Of Eden
Yesterdays
Locomotive
Dead Horse
Dont Cry
14 Years
Breakdown
Dont Cry
Double Talkin Jive
November Rain
The Garden
Dead Horse
Estranged
You Could Be Mine
Coma

17 Amazing songs on 1 album...You could prob squueze in the 2 covers as well...but if not they dont need to be on there

would be considered one of the greatest albums ever recorded.

Heres my ultimate UYI's... I just took 15 tunes since UYI's had 30... Figured I would take 1/2...


Get In The Ring
You Could Be Mine
Live and Let Die
Back Off Bitch
Don't Damn Me
Bad Obsession
Dead Horse
Pretty Tied Up
The Garden
Yesterdays
Breakdown
Estranged
Civil War
Locomotive
Coma

Here is my pick of the songs they should have used:

1) Right Next Door to Hell
2) Dust N' Bones
3) Live and Let Die
4) Don't Cry [Original Version]
5) Perfect Crime
6) You Ain't the First
7) Bad Obsession
8 ) Back off Bitch
9) Double Talkin' Jive
10) November Rain
11) Garden
12) Garden of Eden
13) Don't Damn Me
14) Bad Apples
15) Dead Horse
16) Coma
 
and then a second CD with:

1) Civil War
2) 14 Years
3) Yesterdays
4) Knockin' on Heaven's Door
5) Get in the Ring
6) Shotgun Blues
7) Breakdown
8 ) Pretty Tied Up (The Perils of Rock & Roll Decadence)
9) Locomotive (Complicity)
10) So Fine
11) Estranged
12) You Could Be Mine
13) Don't Cry [Alternate Lyrics]
14) My World

I would keep it a double, take out "My World" "Get in the Ring" "So Fine" the alternate "Don't cry" "Shotgun Blues" and just re-record the live songs from Lies in the studio so they sounded better. Maybe move "The Garden" to UYI 2 as well to balance the lengths.

Don't cry
November Rain
Estranged
Right next door to hell
Coma
Locomotive
Breakdown
Get in the ring
You could be mine
Back off bitch
The garden
Pretty tied up

I would put the two discs into one case, market it as a double disc album without the blatant filler, instead perhaps some of the amazing covers of the spaghetti incident and crash diet, when i say blatant fillers i mean like My world

Live and let die
Don't Cry
November Rain
The Garden
Garden of Eden
Coma
Civil War
14 Years
Knockin' on Heaven's Door
Breakdown
Locomotive
Estranged
My World

If I had to have one UYI album would be

1-Dust N Bones

2-Perfect Crime

3-Double Talkin Jive

4-Garden Of eden

5-Coma

6-November Rain

7-14 Years

8-You Could Be Mine

9-Pretty tied Up

10-Shotgun Blues

11-Civil War

12_knockin On Heavens Door

My Perfect UYI album - If this were the tracklist, I'd easily rank this as the best GNR record so far.

1) Civil War
2) 14 Years
3) Yesterdays
4) Knockin' on Heaven's Door
5) Breakdown
6) Dust N' Bones
7) The Garden
8) You Could Be Mine
9) Crash Diet
10) Estranged
11) My World

I think that My World is a more important track than most people realize. I'm not saying it's very good, but there's no way I'd take it off the UYI's.

Well there's no way I could have my ideal UYI tracklist on just one album, because I'd have to have NR, Coma and Estranged all on there, and that doesn't leave much room for anything else... :o

yeah, I wish they had included Crash Diet on there.  His voice is so unbelievably raw, it hurts. in a good way.

coma
estranged
nrain
dnb
ddm
civil war
the garden
garden of eden
locomotive
my world

i doubt u could try to combine all tracks of the use ur ill. set into one cd. that would-be cd would've seemed crammed. hasn't anyone ever noticed that use ur ill 1's essence is slightly different that use ur ill 2? keeping them separate is vital. the impact those albums had would not have been the same if they had done things differently.

I'm surprised people are re-arraging or leaving out the trilogy of Don't Cry, NR, and Estranged. I can imagine dropping Estranged although really it should be there, but some people have even left out Don't Cry. :o

civil war
right next door to hell
dont cry
you could be mine
november rain
estranged
bad obsession
double talkin jive
breakdown
so fine
yesterdays
dont cry alternative
coma
dead horse

iTunes combines the two for 9.99 with this tracklist:

Live and Let Die
Don't Cry (original)
You Ain't the First
November Rain
The Garden
Dead Horse
Civil War
14 Years
Yesterdays
Knockin' on Heavan's Door
Estranged
Don't Cry (Alt.)

No YCBM, Garden of Eden, Breakdown, Coma, or Locomotive...
Any thoughts?

those tracks are the compiltation of use ur ill. 1 and 2. that is an actual cd.

Ok, I'm going to choose 14 tracks:

1. Perfect Crime
2. Civil War
3. Bad Obsession
4. You Could Be Mine
5. Dust n' Bones
6. November Rain
7. Shotgun Blues
8. Double Talkin' Jive
9. Locomotive
10. Back Off Bitch
11. 14 Years
12. Estranged
13. Dead Horse
14. Coma

These are my favourites right now  8)

Sorry if I gave you the impression that I didn't mean it wasn't a real cd. I was just citing that I copied the tracklist from iTunes incase of a mistake you guys would flame me for.

Id have to have YCBM, i think this song is class, i for some reason think this song still sounds like it could be released today and sound modern. what ye think ? and and coma would have to be on it as.

01- Civil War
02- 14 Years
03- Yesterdays
04- Knockin' On Heaven's Door
05- Don't Cry
06- Get In The Ring
07- Breakdown
08- November Rain
09- The Garden
10- Estranged
11- Bad Apples
12- Coma

5 from I, 7 from II

^ That would be WAY too long to be one album. It would never work.

If I had to combine them to make one killer album it would be:
Civil War
Breakdown
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
You Could Be Mine
Estranged
Coma
Don't Damn Me
Perfect Crime
Garden of Eden
Right Nxt Door to Hell
14 Years
Live and Let Die

- You Could Be Mine
- Civil War
- Dust N' Bones
- Locomotive
- Perfect Crime
- Estranged
- Don't Cry (Original)
- November Rain
- Double Talkin' Jive
- Breakdown
- Knockin' On Heaven's Door (but instead of the version they released, make it sound closer to the Dylan original, like the new Guns did in 2001/2002)
- Coma

I dont think i would change uyi1 o 2 there both great albums but i do see hwere there is filler but the filler is good

1. dont damn me
2. back off bitch
3. KOHD
4. civil war
5. yesterdays
6. november rain
7. coma
8. estranged
9. dont cry
10. dust n bones
11. dead hose
12. so fine

1.you could be mine
2.dont damn me
3.dead horse
4.locomotive
5.live and let die
6.double talkin jive
7.civil war
8.dont cry (original)
9.november rain
10.estranged
11.breakdown
12.right next door to hell
13.coma
14.perfect crime
15.bad apples
16.knocking on heavens door

1. Right next door to hell
2. dont cry
3. double talkin jive
4. november rain
5. garden of eden
6. dont damn me
7. dead horse
8. coma
9. civil war
10. 14 years
11. yesterdays
12. knockin on heavens door
13. locomotive
14. estranged
15. you could be mine

1. Right Next Door to Hell
2. 14 Years
3. Civil War
4. Dust N' Bones
5. Knockin' on Hevean's Door
6. Don't Cry (orig)
7. Breakdown
8. Dead Horse
9. You Could Be Mine
10. November Rain
11. Don't Damn Me
12. Back Off Bitch
13. Live and Let Die
14. Bad Apples
15. Pretty Tied Up
16. Estranged

1. Civil War
2. Double Talkin Jive
3. Dust N' Bones
4. Locomotive
5. November Rain
6. 14 Years
7. Estranged
8. Get in the Ring
9. The Garden
10. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
11. Bad Apples
12. You Ain't the First
13. Don't Damn Me
14. You Could Be Mine
15. Coma

Hopefully that would all fit on one cd!

I'd make it 10 tracks. No more, no less. UYI II's first 4 songs are flawlessly sequenced, so I'll keep that order on version of UYI.

1) Civil War
2) 14 Years
3) Yesterdays
4) Knockin' On Heaven's Door
5) Breakdown
6) November Rain
7) Crash Diet (Didn't end up either UYI, but it damn well should've)
8) Estranged
9) You Could Be Mine
10) Coma

I don't know whether anyones said this already(i didn't have time to read all the posts), but i know there is a album which consists of certain tracks from each album, i can't remember what it's called.If you go on amazon.com and type in guns n roses, then it will come up-it's an import though.

I think the UYI albums could actually have been successful as separate releases. There would still be 2 discs worth of material I would have just separated them a little differently. It wouldn't have been too bad to name the first one 'AFD II' or even 'Right Next Door To Hell' and just keep the second one as 'UYI'. This is how I would have separated them. Keep in mind not all tracks will make it to any one of these 2 albums. Track listing isn't in any particular order:

AFD II or Right Next Door To Hell:

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Dust N' Bones
3. Live And Let Die
4. Perfect Crime
5. Back Off Bitch
6. Double Talkin' Jive
7. The Garden
8. Garden Of Eden
9. Don't Damn Me
10. Dead Horse
11. Coma
12. Get In the Ring
13. You Could Be Mine

Use Your Illusion:

1. Don't Cry
2. Bad Obsession
3. November Rain
4. Bad Apples
5. Civil War
6. 14 years
7. Yesterdays
8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
9. Shotgun Blues
10. Breakdown
11. Pretty Tied Up
12. Locomotive
13. Estranged

The album below would join AFD as one of the top albums of all-time.  And that's right...no Nov Rain, no KOHD and no Civil War.  "You dig...what I'm sayin'?...."

1. Perfect Crime
2. Pretty Tied Up
3. Don't Cry (original)
4. You Could Be Mine
5. Garden of Eden
6. Breakdown
7. Double-Talkin' Jive
8. Locomotive
9. Estranged
10. Coma

Here would be all time favorite combo from the albums,i think it would make one of the greatest albums ever
1 You Could Be Mine
2 Dust N' Bones
3 Dont Damn Me
4 Dont Cry
5 Civil War
6 Live And Let Die
7 Estranged
8 Yesterdays
9 November Rain
10 Locomotive
11 So Fine
12 Get In The Ring
13 14 Years
14 Knocking On Heavens Door
15 Dead Horse
16 Coma

I would have made Coma a one hour song.

it's tough to get rid of any songs theyre all great, apart from 'My World', thats truelly painful to listen to

I already did this... But I am doing it again with less songs.. There are 11 here and I think it would make a killer album..

1)You Could Be Mine
2)Shotgun Blues
3)Dead Horse
4)Yesterdays
5)Don?t Damn Me
6)The Garden
7)Civil War
8)Breakdown
9)Loco-motive
10)Dust N? Bones
11)Coma

That would have actually been cool if they had released like an EP that was just a 1/2 hour version of that song.  I think Jethro Tull did that at one time with "Thick as a brick".. I am not exactly sure ho wlong it was but I think it was atleast 20 minutes..

I'm gonna do this containing no singles...haha here we go.

Right Next Door To Hell
Perfect Crime
Bad Obsession
Double Talkin Jive
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
Coma
14 Years
Get In The Ring
Breakdown
Locomotive
Pretty Tied Up
My World

1. You Could Be Mine
2. Dust N' Bones
3. Don't Cry (original)
4. Pretty Tied Up----(one of the most underrated GNR tracks)
5. Bad Obsession
6. Civil War
7. Dead Horse-------(another very underrated track)
8. Perfect Crime----(even though there are better tracks not included here, I included this one because it's so short)
9. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
10. Estranged
11. November Rain
12. Don't Damn Me
13. Coma

I'm not sure how long a CD can be, but I think it's around 78 minutes, so I made sure to make a CD that'd fit the limit. That version of UYI would be 77:44.

I'm glad that GNR didn't just release one album, though, because we would've been denied some amazing songs.

I wouldn't include KOHD because it was on the Days of Thunder soundtrack.  I also prefer to hear GNR originals as oppossed to cover songs.  This would be my UYI album that I would like if I had to cut down on the bloat:

Civil War
Dust N' Bones
November Rain
Don't Damn Me
Locomotive
Breakdown
Double Talkin' Jive
Estranged
Pretty Tied Up
Coma

I think these songs show the range of the band as well as the influence of their major songwriters.  Of course Axl is the main cog in the machine, but Izzy's songs bring a real bluesy feel that extend the reach of the band.  Of course, Slash's contributions are evident in all of these songs.  The Illusion albums are probably my favorite album of all time (I like it more than Appetite) but even I admit there is a fair amount of filler.  There are a lot of song that I really like that I didn't include in the above list.  However, there were some songs I could do with out including:  My World, Get in the Ring, Back of Bitch, Live and Let Die (was this really a necessary cover?), Bad Obsession, Bad Apples, and did they really need two Don't Crys?

The tracks would be:

1) Estranged
2)Coma
3) Breakdown
4)Don't Damn Me
5)November Rain
6)Back Off Bitch
7)Dead Horse
8)Don't Cry
9)Civil War
10)Perfect Crime
11)Pretty Tied Up
12)Locomotive
13)Yesterdays
14)The Garden
15)You Could Be Mine

1) Civil War
2) Live and Let Die
3) Don't Cry
4) Locomotive
5) KOHD
6) The Garden
7) EstrangeD
8) Pretty Tied Up
9) You Could Be Mine
10) November Rain
11) Bad Obsession
12) Perfect Crime
13) Yesterdays
14) Coma

11 songs :

Don't Cry
Bad Obsession
Double Talkin'Jive
November Rain
Coma
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
So Fine
Estranged
You Could Be Mine

1. Live And Let Die
2. Don't Cry (Original)
3. November Rain
4. Don't Damn Me
5. Civil War
6. 14 Years
7. Yesterdays
8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
9. Breakdown
10. Estranged
11. You Could Be Mine

+ BONUS TRACK: Back Off Bitch

 8)

I think I already posted on this one, but I want to do it again as my favourites changes all the time :D

1. Perfect Crime
2. Dust n' Bones
3. You Could Be Mine
4. Double Talkin' Jive
5. Don't Damn Me
6. Locomotive
7. 14 Years
8. The Garden
9. Civil War
10. Bad Obsession
11. Get In The Ring
12. Coma
13. Pretty Tied Up
14. Back Off Bitch
15. Estranged

UYI
12 songs
Max length 6:46 (like Paradise City)
No covers

Right Next Door to Hell
Dust N' Bones
Don' Cry (Org.)
Perfect Crime
Back off Bitch
Double Talkin' Jive
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
14 Years
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
You Could Be Mine

1 right next door to hell
2 14 years
3 you could be mine
4 don't damn me
5 perfect crime
6 double talkin' jive
7 november rain
8 the garden
9 yesterdays
10 locomotive
11 estranged
12 pretty tied up
13 don't cry (original)
14 coma

this would make a great album! covers would be played live and stay live classics, civil war was released on a soundtrack so we'd still hear it! and the epics we'd had to lose one, so i'd choose breakdown, altough i love the song more that NR, but NR is a classic...
maybe they could have shortened songs like locomotive so we'd hear dust and bones...

1 civil war
2live and let die
3breakdown
4 locomotive
5knocking on heaves door
6 november rain
7dont cry
8 double talkin jive
9 estranged
10 bad apples
11 the garden
12 coma

1. Right next door to hell
2. don' t cry
3. back of bitch
4. double talkin jive
5. november rain
6. the garden
7. don t damn me
8. dead horse
9. coma
10. civil war
11. 14 years
12. yesterday's
13. knockin on heaven s door
14. estranged
15. you could be mine

^ I don't think that would fit on a CD.

1.)Civil War
2.)Don't Cry
3.)Coma
4.)14 Years
5.)Estranged
6.)Dead Horse
7.)Locomotive
8.)Knockin' On Heaven's Door
9.)November Rain
10.)You Could be Mine
11.)The Garden
12.)Yesterdays

 :yes: :yes:

16 tracks on UYI 1   :P

He means the length i think its above 80 mins

oh  :-[ ok... then remove the garden, double talkin jive and 14 years

but I like these tracks  :'(

Yeah, the truth is that you can't make one album from the UYI's : ok: It has to be two..

In no particular order:

1. Don't Cry
2. You ain't the first
3. Double Talkin' Jive
4. November Rain
5. Bad Apples
6. Coma
7. Civil War
8. Yesterday
9. Get In the Ring (I'm one of the few who like that, just take off the Bob Guccione rant)
10. Breakdown
11. Estranged
12. You Could be Mine


No covers, put all the other songs on a 2nd CD, like Incesticide.

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Don't Damn Me
3. Double Talkin Jive
4. Pretty Tied Up
5. Yesterdays
6. Dead Horse
7. The Garden
8. Locomotive
9. Bad Apples
10. Back Off Bitch
11. Estranged
12. You Could Be Mine
13. Perfect Crime
14. Live & Let Die
15.  14 yrs
16. Coma

If theres enough room add So Fine, my favorite GnR ballad

1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Perfect Crime
3. Back off Bitch
4. Live and Let Die
5. Don't Cry(alt. Lyrics)
6. Civil War
7. Breakdown
8. Estranged
9. Locomotive
10. You Could be Mine
11. The Garden
12. Don't Damn Me
13. Dead Horse
14. Coma


Sorry folks but no November Rain, I had to keep the running time somewhat realistic.?Also I love You Ain't the First but it seems so out of place on a? Gn'R album. This is the running order I'd put them in also.? It's in your face right off the bat and then chills out just a? bit in the middle and then picks it up at the end, climaxing with Coma. Perfect album right there.

ha! I just noticed I book ended my album with the UYI I tracks and all the UYI II tracks are in the middle.

 1. Civil War
 2. Bad Apples
 3. You Could Be Mine
 4. Don't Cry
 5. Back Off Bitch
 6. November Rain
 7. Don't Damn Me
 8. Knocking On Heavens Door
 9. Double Talkin' Jive
10. Yesterdays
11. Pretty Tied Up
12. Bad Obsession
13. Breakdown
14. Estranged

....

Brilliance.
....

1) Pretty Tied Up
2) Estranged
3) Don't Damn Me
4) The Garden
5) Civil War
6) Double Talkin' Jive
7) November Rain
VIII) Dead Horse
9) Don't Cry
10) You Could Be Mine
11) 14 Years
12) Coma


I'm surprised to see so many people with "Right Next Door To Hell" on their lists.? That song always struck me as self-imitation.

I say don't touch them. Leave them alone. If they had not put all those songs on there, then that would be less GNR songs out there to listen to. : ok:

  1. Right Next Door To Hell
  2. Don't Cry (Original)
  3. Perfect Crime
  4. Bad Obsession
  5. November Rain
  6. Don't Damn Me
  7. Coma
10. Civil War
11. 14 Years
12. Yesterdays
13. Estranged
14. You Could be Mine

 :peace:

  1. Civil War
  2. Don't Cry (Alt lyrics)
  3. Perfect Crime
  4. Breakdown
  5. November Rain
  6. Dead Horse
  7. Coma
10. Civil War
11. Locomotiv
12. Coma
13. Estranged
14. You Could be Mine

i need them all
Civil War is my favorite

1.November Rain
2.Civil War
3.14 Years
4.Perfect Crime
5.Coma
6.Don?t Cry
7.You Could Be Mine
8.Yesterdays
9.Pretty Tied Up
10.Double Talkin Jive
11.Locomotive
12.Dead Horse
13.Estranged
14.Don?t Damn Me

01. Get in the ring
02. Breakdown
03. Civil War
04. Don't Cry
05. You ain't the first
06. Back off Bitch
07. Dead Horse
08. November Rain
09. So Fine
10. Estranged
11. Perfect Crime

 :confused:

i started compiling a list but couldnt think of an 80 minute cd cuz i love all the songs!!

1 civil war
2 bad apple
3 dead horse
4november rain
5 breakdown
6the garden
7 yesterdays
8 coma
9locomotive
10estranged
11you could be mine

 although i think it should stay 2 disk format

1. You Could Be Mine
2. Don't Cry (original)
3. Breakdown
4. Locomotive
5. November Rain
6. Coma
7. The Garden
8. Don't Damn Me
9. Estranged
10. Garden of Eden
11. Dead Horse
12. Civil War

eerily close to novemberparadise23, great minds think alike?

I already made this CD awhile ago...played it so much I scratched it all to hell...

1.  Civil War
2.  You Could Be Mine
3.  Locomotive
4.  Dont Cry (o)
5.  November Rain
6.  Estranged
7.  Dead Horse
8.  Pretty Tied Up
9.  Knockin' On Heaven's Door
10.  14 Years
11.  Coma
12.  Right Next Door To Hell

As much as I love both CDs, had they released one mega-album...they would have repeated AFD's success.

Side A

1-You could be mine
2-Live and let die
3-Don't cry (original)
4-The garden
5-November Rain
6-Coma

Side B

7-Civil war
8-Double talkin' jive
9-Knockin' on heavens door
10-Locomotive
11-Yesterdays
12-Estranged

01. Don't Cry (Original)
02. Double Talkin' Jive
03. Coma
04. Don't Damn Me
05. The Garden
06. Live And Let Die
07. Civil War
08. Yesterdays
09. You Could Be Mine
10. Estranged
11. Get In The Ring
12. Pretty Tied Up

Not in that specific order :smoking:

I wouldn't touch a thing on UYI... there's just so much to them... so much diversity... so many hits.... a few misses... and that's what happens when you push the envelope...

Many are fond of saying that UYI is the sound of great band breaking up... I disagree... I think it's the sound of a great band GROWING UP... and I think UYI sets the stage nicely for songs like "T.W.A.T.", "Madagascar", "The Blues" and "CITR" to name a few. : ok:

I have two versions.

My Illusion with just my favourite songs:

1. Civil War
2. Bad Apples
3. You Could Be Mine
4. Don't Cry
5. Bad Obsession
6. Perfect Crime
7. 14 Years
8. November Rain
9. Pretty Tied Up
10. Locomotive
11. Get In The Ring
12. Estranged

...

And the true AFD-follow-up:

1. Get In The Ring
2. Perfect Crime
3. Right Next Door To Hell
4. Back Off Bitch
5. Bad Apples
6. Don't Damn Me
7. You Could Be Mine
9. Shotgun Blues
10. Pretty Tied Up
11. Double Talkin' Jive
12. Locomotive

....

 :hihi:

You Could Be Mine
14 Years
Perfect Crime
Don't Cry
Breakdown
Don't Damn Me
Locomotive
Double Talkin Jive
Estranged
Dead Horse
Yesterdays
Pretty Tied Up
Coma

 :drool:

i love them both but this is what i would do

1.RIght next door to hell
2. Dont Cry
3. Perfect Crime
4. November Rain
5. Coma
6.Civil War
7. You could be mine
8. Estranged
9. Yesterdays
10. Get in the Ring
11. Locomotive
12. Garen of Een
13 Dont dam me( yeah thats right)
14. Dead Horse

lol yea axlthered great minds do indeed think alike

Blah! No fillers on there at all, IMO. The shorter songs still kick ass and I couldn't imagine them not being on a GN'R album!

1.Don't Damn Me
2. Locomotive
3.Civil War
4. Dont Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
5. November Rain
6. Dust N' Bones
7. Garden Of Eden
8. Double Talkin' Jive
9. Live And Let Die
10. Coma

I would go for this also. Maybe put coma last for the epic ending. : ok:

Every song except:

Shotgun Blues
Get In The Ring
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
Breakdown
Don't Damn Me (I know lotsa people love this song...I don't...you're over it)
My World
So Fine
Double Talkin Jive (fun jam, not exactly a classic song to me though)
Back Off Bitch
Knockin' On Heaven's Door

...That's still probably more than 80 minutes worth, but I can't part with any of the other songs.

I will try not to exceed the 80 min limit:

01- Civil War
02- 14 Years
03- Yesterdays
04- Live And Let Die
05- Don't Cry
06- Breakdown
07- You Could Be Mine
08- Get In The Ring
09- Estranged
10- November Rain
11- The Garden
12- Dead Horse
13- Coma

I'd agree with that as filler and u aint the first. The rest is gold

your just mad cause its country :hihi: all Izzy's songs are awesome :peace:

My condensed 'Use Your Illusion':

1. Double Talkin' Jive
2. 14 Years
3. Live And Let Die
4. Breakdown
5. Don't Cry (Original)
6. You Could Be Mine
7. November Rain
8. Bad Obsession
9. Locomotive
10. Perfect Crime
11. Yesterdays
12. Estranged
13. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
14. Shotgun Blues
15. Coma

1. Civil War
2. Perfect Crime
3. Get In The Ring
4. Dead Horse
5. November Rain
6. Pretty Tied Up
7. Don't Damn Me
8. Don't Cry
9. Bad Obsession
10. Estranged
11. You Could Be Mine
12. Yesterdays
13. Bad Apples
14. Double Talkin' Jive
15. Locomotive

Don't know if that's over 80 mins, but I don't care. That's a record better than Appetite.

EDIT: Damn, no matter how you try you can't fit all the good songs on one record.  :nervous:

Right, ive done my best... it would have to be on a bigger capacaty CD, Super Audio or somthing? I don't know.

The track listing has been thought of... with the first tracks resembling the more 'Appetite' sound, agression... then mellowing in the middle, to been emotionally driven and beautiful then a few kicks in the face at the end.

Id burn this as a disc if i could.

Use Your Illusion - aprox. runtime 93mins
1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Live And Let Die
4. Bad Obsession
5. Double Talkin' Jive
6. Dust N' Bones
7. You Ain't The First
8. So Fine
9. Yesterdays
10. Dont Cry (original lyrics)
11. November Rain
12. Estranged
13. Garden of Eden
14. Bad Apples
15. Civil War
16. Coma


Singles:

You Could Be Mine:
   1. You Could Be Mine
   2. Don't Damn Me (b-side)
   3. Get In The Ring (b-side)

Dont Cry:
   1. Don't Cry
   2. 14 Years

Live and Let Die:
   1. Live and Let Die
   2. Knockin' On Heavens Door (b-side)
   3. Perfect Crime (b-side)

November Rain:
   1. November Rain
   2. Locomotive (complicity) (b-side)




Studio Leaks:? :hihi:

Back Off Bitch
The Garden
Dead Horse
Shotgun Blues
Breakdown
Pretty Tied Up
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
My World?

^leaks  :rofl:

hehe yeah :rofl: im funny like that.

 Yes, Illusion was one of my track albums I like some of there songs on them albums,
Right next store to hell, Dust n Bones, Bad Apples, Back off Bitch, Bad Obssession,
Don't cry, November rain. The album was good I like it! Cindy S.

1.Civil Way
2.Live N Let Die
3.Yesterdays
4.Perfect Crime
5.You Aint the First
6.November Rain
7.Garden of Eden
8.Dont Damn Me
9.Estranged
10.You Could Be Me Mine
11.KOHD
12.Breakdown
13.Deadhorse
14.Coma

You Could Be Mine
Civil War
Yesterdays
Don't Cry
November Rain
Right Next Door To Hell
14 Years
Locomotive
Breakdown
Estranged
Coma

Right

You Could Be Mine
Live And Let Die
Bad Obsession
Yesterdays
Estranged
Double Talkin Jive
The Garden
14 Years
Novembber Rain

I'm pretty sure I've done this already, but i can't be bothered to find it so here is my tracklist as of today.

Use Your Illusion 1CD
Length:78.7 mins
 
1)Right Next Door to Hell
2)Don't Cry
3)Back Off Bitch
4)November Rain
5)Double Talkin' Jive
6)Civil War
7)You Could Be Mine
8)14 Years
9)Yesterdays
10)Locomotive
11)Breakdown
12)Estranged
13)Coma

I know that there is a lot of the long songs from the albums on this list but this is the songs I'm listening to at the moment.

Perfect Crime
Civil war
Live and let die
Don't Cry
Locomotive
Knockin on heaven's door

You could be Mine
Double talkin Jive
Estranged
Yesterdays
November Rain
Coma


Even this way, I don't think it would have been better than Appetite for Destruction

not any order


1. Right Next Door To Hell
2. Don't Cry
3. Dead Horse
4. Live and Let Die
5. Estranged
6. November Rain
7. You Could Be Mine
8. Just Another Sunday
9. Dust and Bones
10. Perfect Crime
11. Yesterdays
12. 14 Years
12.

My Tracklist:

1.Civil War
2.Live And Let Die
3.Yesterday
4.Don't Cry (Original)
5.Knockin On Heaven Door
6.Breakdown
7.Pretty Tied Up
8.Locomotive
9.November Rain
10.So Fine
11.Estranged
12.The Garden
13.Dead Horse
14.You Could Be Mine
15.Coma

Live And Let Die
Civil War
Yesterdays
Don't Cry (Original)
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
November Rain
Breakdown
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
So Fine
Estranged
You Could Be Mine
Coma

That's my "one cd only" UYI's tracklist.

But it was difficult to take out tunes like "Back Off Bitch", "The Garden", "Get In The Ring" (most for the lyrics) or "You Ain't The First".

My UYI:

1. Live And Let Die
2. Bad Obsession
3. November Rain
4. The Garden
5. Garden Of Eden
6. Dead Horse
7. Coma
8. Civil War
9. Yesterdays
10. Breakdown
11. Estranged
12. You Could Be Mine
13. Don't Cry(Alt.)
14. My World

Maybe arranged slightly different, but something like this;



                                                              14 Years
                                                           Dust N' Bones
                                                             Yesterdays
                                                        You Could Be Mine
                                                              Don't Cry
                                                           Back Off Bitch
                                                            The Garden
                                                          November Rain
                                                             Breakdown
                                                            Dead Horse
                                                                Coma
                                                             Estranged

Uhh... All of the tracks from UYI2 were awesome (aside from My world) as were many songs on UYI1...  I dunno, I havn't listened to the UYI's latly but from what I can remember...

it would be UYI2 with "So Fine", "My World" and "yesterdays" replaced with november rain, Live and let Die, and Coma.  Added would be "Dust 'N Bones"... I'll work on this later...

If Use Your Illusion was one album... we would've missed out on a shitload of great songs.

I like every song on UYI. Some are better than others, but the variety and depth of the range of songs is what makes both albums so great. : ok:

Really, the only songs i WOULDN'T want to have are: My World, You Aint The Firat, and Bad Apples
Other than that, i'd still want every other song  ;D

YATF and BA are awesome songs IMO  :)

i'm glad they did 2 albums

This is what makes UYI 1 & 2 so great, some people love the songs that other people hate. I love every song on both albums.

Bad Apples is awesome for the solo alone.

Well each to his own  :)

1- Civil War
2- 14 Years
3- Yesterdays
4- Live And Let Die
5- Don't Cry [Alt. Lyrics]
6- Knockin' On Heaven's Door
7- Breakdown
8- Locomotive
9- Estranged
10- You Could Be Mine
11- November Rain
12- The Garden
13- Bad Apples
14- Coma

Cool Setlist, I'd replace Don't Cry original for Don't Cry Alt Lyrics and Dont Damn Me for Bad Apples though.

Use Your Illusion

1. Back Off Bitch
2. November Rain
3. Dead Horse
4. Coma
5. Civil War
6. Breakdown
7. Pretty Tied Up
8. Locomotive
9. Estranged
10. You Could Be Mine

 :smoking:

1. Civil War
2. Dust N' Bones
3. Yesterdays
4. Knockin On Heavens Door
5. Perfect Crime
6. Dead Horse
7. 14 Years
8. Breakdown
9. Double Talkin Jive
10. So Fine
11. Estranged
12. Don't Cry
13. Coma

OK, I've worked on this a bit

Civil War
14 Years
Knockin' on Heavens door
Shotgun Blues
Pretty Tied Up
Estranged
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry (original)
Dust 'N Bines
Live and Let Die
November Rain
Dead Horse
Coma
If there's still room add "Breakdown" "Bad Obsession" and "The Garden"  (infact, I'd be thinking of replacing Shotgun Blues with Breakdown or The Garden).

If

Well hi this is my first post both UYI are exceptional albums ! to purge a few songs to make into a single album would obviously include  My World though Axl as stated this was both something Duff and Slash knew about at the time  and kinda liked but  didnt like the absence of Guitars and band input on it....apart from this track its quite  tough  songs like bad apples  you aint the first  spring to mind maybe shotgun blues and despite it being an awesome track.dont damn me   as to be fair other UYI tracks have had live versions played at some point  ..double talking jive to me seems outa place?

1- Civil War
2- Yesterdays
3- Dead Horse
4- Live And Let Die
5- Don't Cry [Alt. Lyrics]
6- Knockin' On Heaven's Door
7- Breakdown
8- Locomotive
9- Pretty Tied Up
10- You Could Be Mine
11- November Rain
12- Don't Damn Me
13- Estranged
14- Coma

this is a hard one, i took a job with a furniture company near my home when i was like 12 gluing pennies on envelopes to send to everyone in town and made just enough money to afford only one of these albums, but i got my first buzz off rubber cement.   the one i chose...  use your illusion I, i borrowed use your illusion II from a much older friend and made a cassette copy of it.... shame on me  :-[

1.   You Could Be Mine
 2.   Perfect Crime
 3.   Get In The Ring
 4.   Don't Cry (Original)
 5.   Knockin On Heaven's Door
 6.   Garden Of Eden
 7.   November Rain
 8.   Civil War
 9.   Live And Let Die
10.  Pretty Tied Up
11.  Back Off Bitch
12.  Yesterdays
13.  Estranged
14.  My World

I think both albums stand on their own, but I would go with this... 

1.Right Next Door To Hell
2.Live And Let Die
3.Don't Cry
4.Perfect Crime
5.You Ain't The First
6.Bad Obsession
7.Back Off Bitch
8.The Garden
9.Coma
10.Pretty Tied Up
11.Locomotive
12.You Could Mine
13.Estranged

Sure i have a post in here somewhere but I am trying to take my heart out of it and pick the 12 best

so Id have a tracklisting like this as of today

1.Civil War
2.Dust N Bones
3.Live and Let Die
4.Don't Cry
5.Yesterdays
6.Knockin on Heaven's Door
7.Locomotive
8.Coma
9.Estranged
10.You Could Be Mine
11.Don't Damn Me
12. November Rain

I think this topic shows the strength of the UYI albums in that no two lists on here are the same, its really interesting that what one person classes as a weaker song is anothers favourite, thus proving it was correct to release both albums at the same time.

O yeah and all those that don't like Bad Apples you should go back to it and have another listen, I always skipped it and then about six months ago I played it and WOW! What a fuckin song, it was like discovering a new GnR song, you should all try it, listen to the songs you usually skip!

1.civil war
2.dust n bones
3 Perfect Crime
4.yesterdays
5.dont cry
6. double talkin jive
7 knocking on heavens door
8. dead horse
9.live and let die
10.back of bitch
11. november rain
12. you could be mine
13.estranged
14. dont damn me
15. pretty tied up
16. right next door to hell
17. the garden
18. coma

Wow..!  Loving this thread!  I'm amazed though that some of the tracks I love are considered to be fillers... fair enough of course, but that probably proves why it was worth releasing both.  I love the balance of both albums - for example, You Ain't the First isn't a "classic" but it's a great song and comes at the right time after Perfect Crime.  Have to say, the only tracks I don't enjoy listening to are Right Next Door to Hell and My World.  Here's my favourite 15 though... in no particular order:

1 Dust n' Bones
2 Live and Let Die
3 Don't Cry
4 You Ain't the First
5 Bad Obsession
6 November Rain
7 Don't Damn Me
8 Bad Apples
9 Dead Horse
10 Civil War
11 14 Years
12 Get in the Ring
13 Breakdown
14 Pretty Tied Up
15 Estranged

Argh... can I have Yesterdays, Locomotive, and So Fine too please...?! Help!

I couldn't do this, too many good songs.

I never got people wanting it to be 1 album, it has too many great songs on, to be compacted down. Every song on both records is purely a hit, and no songs deserve to be left off, just for the sake of making it 1 disc, instead of 2.

"I brought me an Illusion and I put it on the wall,
I let it fill my head with dreams and I had to have them all."

Amazing.  ;D

Fuck that. Everything with Axl's voice is a killer!!!

Agreed!

I don't see any fillers...but in terms of one album

1. Civil War
2. Don't Cry (Original)
3. You Could Be Mine
4. Perfect Crime
5. Double Talkin Jive'
6. November Rain
7. Dead Horse
8. Right Next Door to Hell
9. Estranged
10. Coma

There are, of course, loads of other great tracks - Bad Obsession would be my next pick, followed closely by 'You Ain't the First'

Other songs, like Locomotive, Breakdown and So Fine are also perfect

If there is anything I would have ignored on these albums, it was perhaps Shotgun Blues (not the best track but a good B Side), Get In The Ring (because of the rant, otherwise a great song) and My World - the latter of which is pointless

Of the two my favourite is the first volume, replacing Live and Let Die (due to it's over playing in the years since) with Civil War

my solution would be all uyi 1 and release the next one 1 month after with a other name

I love both albums equally save for a couple tracks, but my list for a 15 track disc would be:

Right Next Door To Hell
Pretty Tied Up
Perfect Crime
Dust N Bones
Civil War
Garden of Eden
Don't Cry
Bad Obsession
Dead Horse
Get In The Ring
November Rain
Double Talkin' Jive
Locomotive
Estranged
Coma

so i did put a lot of thoughs on this and this is what came from it
i picked 8 songs from uyi1 and 7 from uyi2 (hated to leave breakdown out)

1 dust n?bones
2 civil war
3 pretty tied up
4 the garden
5 live and let die
6 bad obsession
7 november rain
8 14 years
9 locomotive
10 knockin on heavens door
11 dont cry (original)
12 you could me mine
13 coma
14 double talkin? jive
15 estranged
(15 because 1 has 16 and 2 has 14 )

IF it were just 14 song album and I am trying to keep my heart out of it and only placing what I feel are the 14 best songs to make the most COMMERCIAL album:

1.Civil War as the opener   
2.Dust N Bones
3.Live And Let Die
4.You Could Be Mine
5.Don't Cry
6. Pretty Tied Up
7. Locomotive
8.Estranged
9. Knockin on Heaven's Door
10. November Rain
11. Yesterdays
12. Breakdown
13.Dead Horse
14. Coma the ultimate Closer


those 14 IMO the best of the album. Leaving Don't Damn Me off very difficult but something had to go.

Perfect Crime
Shotgun Blues
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry
November Rain
Estranged
Civil War
The Garden of Eden
Yesterdays
Locomotive
Breakdown
Coma

1. Back Off Bitch
2. November Rain
3. Dead Horse
4. Civil War
5. Breakdown
6. Pretty Tied Up
7. Locomotive
8. Estranged
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Coma

This topic has been dead since last July!  I think its time for a revisit.  10 song LP:

1) You Could Be Mine
2) Civil War
3) 14 Years
4) Locomotive
5) November Rain
6) Don't Cry (original)
7) Estranged
8) Dead Horse
9) Yesterdays
10) Coma

1. You Could Be Mine
2. 14 Years
3. Don't Cry (Alt Lyrics)
4. Don't Damn Me
5. Civil War
6. November Rain
7. Double Talkin Jive
8. Breakdown
9. Locomotive
10. Estranged
11. Dead Horse
12. Coma

These are just my personal favorites with no regard paid to what were singles, commercial appeal, etc. Probably a little heavy on ballads. I picked 12 because 14 probably wouldn't fit onto a CD with the song lengths (yes I realize no one buys CD's anymore).

This is my ultimate Use Your Illusion album and order for the tracklist.  I tried to incorporate all the dimensions of UYI both with the big ballads like November Rain along with the attitude like Back off Bitch and Get in the Ring.  I pretended it was 1991 and that this had to fit on one cd.


1. You Could Be Mine
2. Perfect Crime
3. 14 Years
4. Yesterdays
5. Locomotive
6. Back off Bitch
7.  Right Next Door to Hell
8. Civil War
9.  Don't Damn Me
10. Get in The Ring
11. Double Talkin Jive
12. Don't Cry
13. November Rain
14. Estranged

Have I posted on this before? I don't remember, and don't wanna look through every post, so here it is (possibly again :hihi: )

This comes to just under 80 minutes...

1. Civil War
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Pretty Tied Up
4. Don't Cry
5. November Rain
6. Breakdown
7. Locomotive
8. Dust N' Bones
9. 14 Years
10. Estranged
11. Yesterdays
12. Coma

I'm going to make Use Your Illusion a double album with 16 tracks:

Civil War
Dust N Bones
Live & Let Die
Locomotive
You Ain't The First
Yesterdays
Knocking On Heaven's Door
Double Talking Jive
You Could Be Mine
Don't Cry (original)
Back Off Bitch
The Garden
Don't Damn Me
Estranged
Garden Of Eden
Coma

Always been a massive fan of the Illusion albums. Sure, it's not all killer and there is some filler. But there really is some quality work over the two discs. Undoubtedly should've just been the one double album though. Would possibly be held in a lot higher regard if this was the case.

Following the Guns/Roses album split which AFD did (the rockers being on one side, the ballady stuff on the other)

1) Right Next Door to Hell
2) Double Talkin' Jive
3) Perfect Crime
4) You Could Be Mine (single B-side 14 Years)
5) Bad Obsession
6) Pretty Tied Up
7) Garden of Eden
8) Coma
9) Don't Cry (single b-side You Ain't The First)
10) Yesterdays
11) November Rain
12) Don't Damn Me
13) Estranged

Single only releases: Civil War, KOHD, LALD

clocks in at 66 minutes.

Well we'll do 14 tracks, since there's 30 tracks in total and AFD was 12 and 12 songs is typically the amount of most albums for any band.

These are my picks in no track order. Just the 12 songs that would've made the greatest album in rock history.

I'm also picking these as what I think are the actual best songs, so I'm being extremely objective. And remember they gotta fit in a 80 minute CD.

Don't Cry 5
November Rain 9
Dust N' Bones 5
Back Off Bitch 5
Civil War 8
14 years 4
Pretty Tied Up 5
You Could Be Mine 6
Knockin On Heaven's Door 6
Right Next Door to Hell 3
Locomotive 9
Don't Damn Me 5

Those are my 12 songs, that I think would of made up the greatest album in rock history.

Notice Estranged and Yesterdays are ommited from my list. I simple think Axl's vocals on yesterdays are bad and Estranged is a good song, but definitley bloated I think.

I based it off of music/guitar work/lyrics and the sound of each song, the song's commercial success had little bearing on my list.


EDIT: I just noticed I left off Bad Obsession. fuck. I'll do another later.

Lots of you are making the albums over 80 minutes lmao

November Rain
Coma
Estranged

That's like 28 minutes people.