Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I don't know if this has been brought up already. If yes, just ignore / delete.

However, not too long ago it seemed like a new Best Of / Greatest Hits record was about to be released. We had Ross Halfin and Slash talking about it and we had listings on Amazon as well as CDUniverse about two new releases:

Welcome To The Jungle: The Very Best Of
Greatest Hits Vol. II

The sources already named are trustable IMHO. Plus, we got the info that word about a second GH was spread by the same person who revealed info about the first GH in 2003.

Later Chinese Democracy appeared, for the first time ever, on Amazon.
I guess we are pretty sure that Amazon was not "playing games". They got the info, most likely from the record company.

Soon after, Sanctuary, Geffen, Universal started shooting down all these releases as if someone just made them up for fun.

Made them up for fun? Slash? Halfin? Amazon? CDuniverse?
Sorry, but ...... Nope!

This just reminds me of late 2003: Word got out about a GN'R Greatest hits compilation. In fact, it appeard on Amazon. Only a few days later it disappeared and Geffen as well as Merck shot down the "Rumour".

What happened? We all know it: Greatest Hits got released in March 2004.

First appearance: November. Disappeared and denied: late November, December. Released: March.

I think it is obvious what I want to say.
I believe that something is coming. I don't know what. Maybe just another compilation. But I'm absolutely sure that we will have a new release of some form at the latest in mid 06.

Your thoughts?


/lastroots

Could have hit the nail on the head..............................then again it might be nothing.

Watch those splinters from sitting on the fence!

Watch those splinters from sitting on the fence!

Yes, more like a splinter of information :hihi:

Splinter being the final title of The Offspring album that they were gonna call Chinese Democracy.



Music always goes round in circles  :D

Yea, what about that conversation with Slash about the new GH album?  Didn't that make it legit?  Geez, you can't believe ANYTHING you hear or read about this band, even from current or former band members.

good point...

I'd say it goes round in spirals. :D

On topic....What is it?
I agree that something is defintely coming up, which is from the present day guns n roses, regardless of the "Best hits" business.
Info from the members is telling.

yeah I think you're right lastroots, I just hope it's not another Greatest Hits or a Best Of!

I think it's an interesting point regarding the Slash/Halfin quote. This to me, makes it appear that it's not a cover for CD but is infact another GH.

Unless of course it's an extremley elaborate cover where several red herrings and diversions have been created. Who knows? I agree though, something will be released soon

I agree. We are definitely gonna get something.

I generally agree that some product will be released sometime in 2006. Right now my optimistic theory is that a GH was being put together but something got worked out to delay it---either Axl agreeing to release CD or at the very least submit his own GH....like ive said in other threads, the real things to look out for are RIR 06 annoucning its line-up and Tommy's schedule during the new year.

Something is coming up for sure. Everything gnr always starts with these weird rumors etc. and then a few months later we find out what is really going on. Like you say, sites like amazon are not just going to post ads for products for no reason. Somewhere along the line someone at amazon got a memo or something stating that there would be a release of something. Who knows what the release will end up being, but like you say, I'm sure we'll know what's going on by mid-2006 at the lastest, and I would guess more likely by the end of February/March.

Yup. The whole scenario can only happen with GNR; at one point Universal was compiling a Best Of, as was Axl. I think it's another November deadline he missed with CD. Last time (in '03), the record company cut funding and released GH. Funny how this time around, there's some amount of communication between Axl's camp and Slash. Slash said that while he likes Axl's pitch for a Best Of, he's still to approve one over the other. I personally think he's been told stay unbiased while the lawsuit's still around the corner. Then again, while Slash and Duff apparently only seem to have an approval over the end product, hope remains that a reunion won't take place in court after all.

It seems everybody's just sort of caving in. The funny thing is that rumors concerning WTTJ originally began to fly very much around the same time as the trial was postponed. It sort of feels like a settlement between Axl, Slash, Duff and Universal concerning the original GH, and possibly the ongoing court case as well. I speculate that if WTTJ comes out, the trial will never happen. I only wonder could a joint release (around the same time, that is) of both CD and WTTJ be possible, as a Best Of might otherwise delay the real deal - once again.

A little off point, but Amazon aren't the only organisation to advertise Chinese Democracy.

My flat mate recently returned from the US and rather smuggishly called me at the airport to say 'CD's coming out in Jan' (as if he'd found out before me). He has the November edition of a magazine called 'Sync' which calls itself 'America's Gadget Guide'. Anyway, turn to the music section and the very last edition in the 'Coming Soon' column is, you guessed it Guns N' Roses 'Chinese Democracy' scheduled for a Jan edition.

Not really a big deal, but it makes you wander where they get the info from.

Perhaps the record execs were just shooting blanks to show Axl that they're not fucking around anymore...either start delivering or they will do whatever it takes to milk the GNR brand whilst they still can.

It could also explain as to why Richard was back in studio this month...someone seems to be under serious pressure somewhere...I just hope it leads to some concrete results this time round.

splinters dont. they just come at ya

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Halfin also said once that Chinese democracy is ready..

If VR is expecting a spring release, and while GNR is also expecting to have a release around that time.  Could Axl be thinking to release CD around the same time of VR to see which album wins head to head

doubt it really.. because they haven't even done any recording really, at least i dont think, so who knows when VR will really come out.

It wouldn't surprise me if VR'S cd comes out first 

There is nothing in writing that says GNR's cd will be out in spring or summer. Axl said he didn't know if SOON was the word. All the others that say SOON, ARE HOPEFUL 

I think it would be a pretty safe bet to say that VR's next record will be released before Chinese Democracy comes out. Heck, I would even say that it would not be too much of a gamble to say that VR's third record will come out before CD does.

It might even be safe to say that VR's Greatest Hits will be out before Chinese Democracy  :hihi:

JUST PLAYIN', GUNNERS!

CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS.....NOW?   : ok:

Everyone said that before the release of Contraband.

This is not the year for GNR...  Merck and Axl are killing me.  Almost another year gone by.  At this point I'll take a ep, promo, song on a soundtrack.  It could be the worst cd ever and I would rock it to death.  Speculation...  I will believe it when I hear it.  When I go to the official gnr site and actually see a update, or hear an actual interview w/ Axl I will possible believe it.   :drool:  Hopefully I'll have hair when this cd is released... : ok:

Perhaps he waited to see what Contraband was like and thought it was better than CD? I'm surprised he's kept his gob shut about VR.

Good point! You would think he would have said something by now. Oh well. Maybe he's waiting to see if the concept album is even better. :hihi:

Anyone still holding out hope for December 20?  :P

Didnt Fortus or Dizzy mention something about some news coming up? Still waiting on that.

An announcement would be nice.  :love: But why the 20th?


Even Slash said that.

Isn't VR expecting a summer release for their concept :o album? While GNR is expecting Chinese Democracy to break out.