Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Real Oviedo is the football team I support back in Spain. We used to play in First Division with all the "big guns" of the Spanish Primera Liga, but due to the incompetence of the board of chairmen, we were relegated to 3rd division. Thanks to the supporters, Real Oviedo is still alive. This is the full story. It's an interesting reading for all football fans:


http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/rebirth_of_oviedo_features_67151.html

Cool are they gonna play again in first divison or they have to go step by step?

I guess they have to be promoted like any other team.



The article was interesting. It describes the problems lots of teams are having with people who have no interest in the sport side of things and are only in it to make money.  :no:



/jarmo

Yeah, it's gonna have to be step by step, I'm afraid, but I'm confident we will make it. It might take some time though...

Well I hope I can see some games in the near future, I am a very big spanish football fan I team for Real Madrid, dreadfully Barca kick the shit out of us in Bernabeu  :'(
That ronaldihno dude is from outer space  :nervous:

Sounds  like a certain Nottingham Forest chairman! Apparently a fan, however since his arrival we have dropped like a sack of potato's off a cliff. Good Academy players are replaced with 3rd rate looking for a last good pay packet dross and the choice of managers have been a complete joke.

Good luck Oviedo!  : ok:

What a story.

I knew Oviedo was struggling but I've never thought it turned out like this.

Hopefully will see Oviedo in 1st division again in a couple of years. Then you could bring Oli Back!? : ok:

It's one thing to be demoted because you play bad, you have an incompetent coach or the players aren't good enough, but when it's because of greedy people who only want to make money, it's just unfair.


A lot of teams do have problems with their economy, in many cases, because they have wrong people making decisions. Not necessarily people who are trying to rob the team, but just incompetent and sometimes naive people. But then again, that's how it is everywhere, wrong people in the wrong places making wrong decisions that affect others.




/jarmo

I gotta say that sometimes is good that teams go through this it makes you realize that if you don't love this team you just have to leave, this also has happened in my country my team Barceloan (ECU) is struggling as hell cause the players sucks, and the directive don't suport the coach it sucks big time, now it's gonna be 9 years with champions ship and It realy pisses me off  :rant:

Obviously any "bad news" will sort the real fans from the ones who support a team as long as they're winning.



/jarmo

They say as a football fan, you appreciate the good times better if you experience the bad times.
Well ive experienced bad times for the past 8-9 years with Forest, its been a long time since any "Good Times".

Go Oviedo, the hardwork has been done, lets see ya back in La Liga!

You definitely do. The reaction from the supporters was really amazing. I was already living in London when all this started, but I kept very much in contact with people back in Oviedo and was also informed through the newspapers. We have 11.000 season ticketholders now. There are teams in La Liga that don't have that many. I have a season ticket even if i can't go to the games. Last game I went was the one in June when we went up. The atmosphere was incredible. I'm not ashamed to say that it almost made me cry...

And thanks for the support. As we say: "We'll be back" : ok:

Oh, a couple of pics from that game in june:

(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/real_oviedo_tifo1.jpg)

(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/real_oviedo_tifo2.jpg)

Although quite dangerous i do think that flares (not the 70's jeans) at football games add to the atmosphere! Looks beautiful! Ill let you take me one day!  ;)

Hehe, ok, I'm going in two weeks, fancy coming?  :D

Flares are actually banned in Spain, but only in professional football. Third Division is not professional, that's why we got away with it

We will meet under the pale moonlight on top of that lovely stand.

How romantic!  :love:

... and we'll sing... I'll teach you all our songs, even the ones kids are not allowed to listen to...  :love:

Hey, who are you calling a kid?  ;)

Oooo. I like Adult orientated football songs.  :D

Congratulations. Due to an incompetent and greedy chairman my football club was nearly destroyed. Tonight we're top of the premier division. Good luck in the future.

Hearts? What happened?

Chris Robinson (bastard) took over and we were ?2 million in debt. 6 years later we were ?20 million in debt. He then tried to sell the stadium we've been at for 120 years and move us in to a rugby stadium which would halved our crowds. If he had his way hearts would've ceased to exist within 5 years.

Luckily a lithuanian millionaire bought us and now we're top of the league. Nice.

I've always got sympathy for real oviedo. Aupa athletic do.

Aha! I like Athetic too... got some good memories of the bars at Licenciado Pozas... I always had fun in Bilbao, even if I never ever saw Oviedo won one single game there  :hihi:

So who exactly owns/runs the club these days.....




/jarmo

The fans are awesome to stick by their team. Remember when Man City went down to the old second division mid-late 90s? Their fans were fantastic, some of the crowds they were getting was amazing.

Well, it's complicated, but to cut a long story short, in June 2005 a new major shareholder appeared demanding the shares that Lafuente had bought from Celso for 1?, on the basis that he had a document signed by Lafuente. After a court battle, the judge ruled against Lafuente and ordered him to give back the shares. I say give back cos this new shareholder is in fact acting on behalf of Celso Gonzalez, public enemy number one. So the major shareholder right now is again Celso Gonzalez

So the guy who ruined the club is back owning it.

Has the guy said anything since last summer? Maybe to try to "calm" the fans down.....




/jarmo

No he hasn't, he stays in the shadows, he has a bunch of puppets running the club for him...

How "clever" of him.

Any "guarantees" that they're not gonna do the same thing again??

Usually people learn from their mistakes, but in some cases what seems like a mistake to the rest, was the plan all along...? :nervous:


/jarmo

Still the same owner? Have they done anything?



I was checking the current standings in the division and it looks like some of the teams have an "A" team in the first division and a "B" team playing against Oviedo.

What happens if the "B" team is promoted and the "A" demoted from the first division?



/jarmo

That's a weird scenario..but could happen.

The "A" and "B" teams can't play in the same division obviously cause they are not gonna play against each other. The thing is, the players from the "B" teams are not conidered professionals, so they couldn't play in first division? where only pros play. Players in second division team are also pros, but not the one who play for the "B" team ( I thibk) .If the situation you mention arouse, the "A" team would play in the second divsion and the "B" team (eventhough they promoted to the first division) would then demote to the third division.

Yeah, the situation is pretty much the same. Things seem a bit more calm at the moment. We'll see...



In Second Division B, the first four teams at the end of the season on each group (there are four groups) play play-offs in order to get promoted. So it could happened that a "B" team finishes between those four teams and the "A" team gets relegated to Second Division A. In that case the "B" team wouldn't go to the play-offs leaving its place to the team in fifth position

In Spain we have 1st divsion, 2nd division, second division B (4 groups there) third division... Promotion and relegation is done the way Graciela described in Second Division B, but not in 1st or 2nd divsions. Three teams are relegated each year to second division. 3 teams are promoted to first division. 4 teams are relegated to second division B, and the first fourt teams on each group in second divsion b play playoffs in order to get promoted.

Real Madrid plays in first division, but Castilla Real Madrid (Ream Madrid "B" team) plays in second division.? If Real Madrid were to be relegated to second division and Real Madrid Castilla promoted to first, Real Madrid would then play in second division and Real Madrid Castilla would then be delegated to second division B.

I don't know much about Spanish Football but what I do know is:

Merida > Oviedo  >:(

heh, just messing  :P I had this manager game with my old PC, Ultimate Soccer Manager 97/98 i think it was...and I went Merida (in Division 2) and I got promoted from Div 2 (won it by a mile :-*) then won La Liga and the champions league..but never won the Copa Del Rey....>:(

But it's good to hear about oviedo 8-) But still....Merida > you :-*