Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Am I the only one that doesn't like Christmas? It has no meaning for me. It's just a dumb holiday. An excuse for stores to make money. I hate it. Dumbass tree, and cookies. Fuck Christmas.

how "thought provoking"

Bah humbug

Yeah, Christmas has kind of lost it's true meaning but don't worry, there's Festivus, for the rest of us! :hihi:

You have a point and I agree.

It really is just a capitalism at its worst (or best considering what side of the street you are on.)


Yet, ironically your reply gives little if any thought at all. (Put into it, or needed to read it.) Proving that history, does indeed, repeat itself.

Christmas is what u make it - like life, if u hate it, try doing some new

Christmas is the only time in the year i get to see many members of my family as we're scattered all over the places, its great to see them all.

I still think their is something special to it all.

What an episode that is! Hilarious! :D

christmas was best desrcibe in jingle all the way.... It really is a time when people turn into animals fighting and clawing to get that latest hot item so there kid can be accepted... I have never been a big fan of the holiday..

christmas is about the birth of jesus but practically no1 cares about it. really, its just another excuse 4 a day off

I used to hate it, but this year, i will have a 3 weeks old baby at xmas and somehow, days being dark in late afternoons, xmas lights and musics and feeling alone, bitter cold numbing me, all this doesn't have much meaning anymore...

Baby's lit up my life.

christmas is fun, or a good excuse for family dinner and stuff ;D

Same here, that's one of the reasons Christmas matters to me.

Christmas has been taken over by retailers. It's all about money now. It can also be stressful and depressing if you're broke. haha

I think it would be better to focus on what Christmas is about...Jesus. It may be more enjoyable to do something charitable, like volunteering at a homeless shelter or spending time with someone who doesn't have anyone to share the holiday with.

who cares, its a fuckin' holiday :beer: :beer: :beer:

I don't care what others say, Christmas is my favorite holiday. : ok:

For real, just sit around all day, get drunk and eat a nice dinner with your family.  Why is that something to complain about?

that's hopw I view it..

christmas to me was the best when you still believed,, it was magical.. Nothing was better then waking up and looking under the tree and seeing those gifts

I love going about town in the early evening with the X-Mas lights out.


Some snow just makes the scene : ok:

Great way to put it. Thats how I feel. There's nothing in the world like being a kid during the Christmas season. : ok:

indeed sir lofton.. Christmas is magical and truly appreciated when you belive.. You'll fight tooth n nail when someone says santa doesn't exsist.... Nothing like the innocence of a child.. Can't wait to do the same for my kids.. My 3 year old is just understanding the idiea

My daughter is 5 and Christmas is so much fun with her.  I understand getting cynical when all you do is buy gifts because you feel obligated, not because you really want to.   But with kids, its so different.  And I love Christmas because I do it all for my daughter, to make sure she has the most magical, exciting holiday possible. 

If you are feeling negative about Christmas, I suggest watching (or reading) Polar Express.  That's a great story to get you feeling better about Christmas. 

What a surprise, you both dislike Christmas.  I really wish that those that disliked capitalism would move to places where socialism or communism exists.  Quit changing (ruining) our country and go move to Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea.

Certain "traditional" things like Christmas, I just love.  I actually love this time of year, and I don't go to church.  What is it with the extreme left and their hate for everything traditional about the United States?

This has got to be the most asinine thing I have ever read here on this board.  Telling people to move to another country because they don't like the capitalistic aspects of Christmas is stupid beyond words.

And for the record, wanting to hold our (un) elected leaders responsible for lying and war crimes doesn't make one a communist, socialist, or a Marxist.

I LOVE Christmas!  It's always just a special time of year for me because I finally get to rest and spend time with the people I love.   I always look up old friends to hang out with and  spend time w/ family.  If I'm on bad terms w/ anyone, I try to make up.  Stupid shit that's happened through the year doesn't even matter to me during the holidays.  I'm a freaking different person! ... haha  :D  And I freakin love it all!  Lights, cookies, trees, snowmen!  Ahh! I'm just like a little kid about Christmas!  ...  Hell, I see Santa in the mall and tackle him! ...   :hihi:

LOL, little uptight over there in California GNRNIGHTTRAIN?

Christmas is nothing more than a huge marketing scam in this country. It has little or no meaning to anybody. It is about people spending money on useless crap they don't need. Marketing to every single sense you have to do one thing: BUY.

You may be proud of that part of America, but I am not. If you are happy being labeled a consumer and that means American to you, then good for you. I find it rather insulting and degrading to be labeled ?a consumer?. But congratulations to you sir! Pat yourself on the back, you are now an empty shell here to do nothing but make money and spend it on useless crap you have been marketed to your entire life to buy. Whippie!

You must be so patriotic and proud of yourself this Christmas. So run along as you are told (by marketing firms that spend millions figuring out how to make you spend money) and buy all the widgets you can get your hands on. Heck, why not just spend money you DON'T HAVE (that's really the American way isn't it?)? Rack it all up on credit cards and spend away, you patriotic consumer of shit made in China.

Merry Christmas!!!

I urge everyone to see that new WALMART movie. The anti-one, that is.

Oh they are an evil lot.

There are two Walmart movies out now right?

One good and one bad?

There is both a pro, and and anti Walmart movie. The anti one is called "The High Cost of Low Price."  I'd like to see the other one, just to see what they have to say for themselves.

For all of you who think that christmas is about jesus.? ?::)

:hihi:  :rofl: thats one of my favourite seinfeld episode ever. i want to actually celebrate festivus

I hate it when people are negative about Christmas.  They tend to be the same people who are negative about everything else as well.


You must know that isn't true.  Christmas is the one time of year where pretty much everyone seems to be in a great mood.  There's cracking food, good films on telly, pretty decorations and lots of great parties.  If you don't like the capitalist aspect then just don't fall for it - no-one's forcing you to buy into all that crap, just like no-one forces you to watch Pop Idol or I'm a Celebrity...  Capitalism is everywhere, you don't need to let it ruin your holiday.

Also, feel it needs to be said that i'm not remotely religious and that doesn't stop me enjoying myself, not should it for anyone else.  Christianity took everything and made it their own back in the day, including Christmas, I don't feel at all bad about that.

"You must know that isn't true.? Christmas is the one time of year where pretty much everyone seems to be in a great mood."

The highest suicide rate of  the year is around Xmas.

That's why I celebrate the birth of Christ I don't care about trees or fucking gifts and stuff it's just a reminder of what Im my religion (christian) is called the savior, even though he wasn't born on that day.

"That's why I celebrate the birth of Christ I don't care about trees or fucking gifts and stuff it's just a reminder of what Im my religion (christian) is called the savior, even though he wasn't born on that day."

AMEN ;D

nyc is very beautiful around xmas time.. I am just not into the gift parts of christmas... The lines, the whining, the trends, blah blah blah... Nothing better then when it's cold and snows at christmas time.... Like anything it has it's pro n cons.. Love the holiday music.. Dominick the donkey :hihi:

SLC, normally I agree with you on most topics.  But I'm surprised at you on this one.  Christmas has as much meaning as you make it have.  Its a great time of year for me, and I'm not religious in the least.  I grew up with great family Christmas's.  I remember the anticipation and excitement and I try to do the same thing for my daughter.  Its not about how much money you spend.  Kids don't really care how expensive a toy is.

Don't you have kids?  Do you act like this about Christmas towards them?  Don't you find any joy in creating a great experience for them?

Didn't you ever read the "How the Grinch stole Christmas?"  Pay special attention to the last lines:  "Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.  Maybe Christmas, perhaps, means a little bit more."

LOL. I am not in a "bad mood" over Christmas. But if anybody here thinks that in America the sole focus is on Jesus Christ then they are mistaken. The sole focus is on selling things: capitalism. That is it.

The family get togethers are great, the food is great, but that is it. The time of year is good for that. But any family get together is good for that.

The traffic is horrible, the lines are horrible, the people are more rushed, frenzied, rude, impatient, during this shopping time. This is no Christmas movie where people begin to love their neighbors all of a sudden. Go sit in heavy traffic around the mall and see how the Christmas spirit is then-lol-it's so brotherly.  ::) Go to the mall between thanksgiving and Christmas and see people spend money they don't have to give gifts they don't need. This certainly does not celebrate Jesus in anyway, capitalism yes, Jesus....I think not.

No offence, but why can't people just enjoy the season without worrying about something as mundane as 'Capitalism'? For me, Christmas is about returning back home and relaxing, after three grueling months of college (Yech). If u're thinking about 'Capitalism' and how stores are making money off people, u've obviously got too much time on your hands...  ;)

Now...I did not say it had no meaning to me. I would prefer anytime with family to be more a time of reflection. Something deeper then buying each other a book or a jacket for the 10th year in a row. Time with my family, the people I love and care for is important. Not buying them crap made in China.

I said people rushing out to buy presents, really, is empty and has no meaning. It is magical through a childs eyes, of course. Because Santa Claus is created and marketed, so we buy them presents. The demand is created through the child. Just like anything else: kids cereal being close to the ground so the child can see and demand it for instance.

Of course I celebrate Christmas with my children. I always do a real tree (no fake please, I need the smell), the meal, presents, the one gift on Christmas eve. The entire deal. But I only do that for my children. I doubt too much we would go to the shopping expense if I did not have them. In fact I am sure I would not. I have asked the same thing every year for myself for Christmas: nothing. Because I don't need anything. I see consumerism as a waste of money and resources for the most part.

Again, I am not saying I don't enjoy the holidays (Christmas music though....uh no) but if anybody thinks it is not about spending money, they are mistaken. Does me pointing that out mean I "hate Christmas"? Of course not. Does it mean I am "Down on everything" of course not. It is a simple statement that is honest and accurate about this country and what Christmas really is all about. Go to one of our thousands of malls and then tell me I'm wrong.

You took the words out of my mouth man! I totally agree (except for the getting drunk part) Christmas is my favorite day of the year.

Christmas is a good excuse to get together with family and friends you usually may or may not see or talk to on a regular basis. So socially it is a good thing.

Kids love Christmas, its when they have off of school and get stuff.

Business and the economy loves christmas due to higher profits.

Christmas is not a bad thing.

Fuck those who find Christmas offensive. Put your energy into something more productive.
( Ex. christmas tree being re-named a holiday tree in NY.)  Seems if someone claims something is offensive on religious grounds they can get away with anything, but when it comes to explicit material like porn, it's freedom of expression and any minor with a computer can access it. Figure that out. ( Personally Im not offended by Christmas or porn)

You are confusing me.  I'm glad to hear you celebrate Christmas and that it does have meaning to you.  But then you say again that it is just about spending money.  If its not just about money to you, why do you think that's all it is to everyone else?  That's a part of it, of course, and maybe that's all it is to some people.  But not everyone.

And as far as presents go, I don't need anything either.  But it does feel good when someone gives you a gift or card that lets you know they were thinking of you.  That's why I give gifts and/or cards to others.  Not  because a marketing exec tells me to.

What the hell are you trying to prove with your posts SLCPUNK?  You're in no way changing any ones mind either way. 

Not quite as asinine as starting a whole thread bashing Christmas and capitalism.  Sorry, but some of us like these things.  Why not move somewhere where they agree with your views instead of changing a society to agree with them?  Just curious.

Buying presents for others, and buying things for those in need.? What a horrible Holiday.? You do realize that when money gets spent, it changes hands.? It allows people to have jobs.? People that would otherwise starve are able to obtain employment based on the capitalistic spending that these consumers engage in.? The government is able to make its money in taxes so they can waste it.? In fact, the capitalism that you despise allows us to be both capitalistic and socialist at the same time. 

And just what kind of example are you setting for your kids?...

Quite.

SLC, you usually come of (most of the time) as an intelligent guy. But in this thread you just sound like an annoying protestor, preaching to people about something they have no real control over; and thus your words bounce off of them. 'Boo hoo, Christmas=Capitalism at it's worst.' You just sound annoying.

And what's all this 'give each other stuff we don't need' about, eh? Need? No, no...

But what do we need? By all means lead by example and renounce all of your earthly posessions. Maybe I'll follow suit. Or, you could always be less extreme. Give your family macoroni cards and sweaters that you've made.

I'm not all together comfortable with your definition of what constitutes need.

I love Christmas. Everything about it. Most people, I find, hate the holiday because they have no real part in it; maybe they have no real close family. And I feel sorry for them. But those I know with good friends, and loving families, that detest Christmas? Now, that I cannot understand. At it's very least it is time off work and/or college or school, as well as presents. What could possibly be bad about that, I ask?
Jealousy, usually. But I have no resentment for those who find hate of the holiday through this. As I said...I feel sorry for them.

And SLC, please, I beg ya, leave behind all of the 'message of Jesus has been taken out of the holiday', not least because you are repeating yourself, but also because this (reason? argument against? I'm not too sure) is easily countered.

How? Just read the posts of anybody in this thread who enjoys the holiday, but are open to the fact that it is not on religous grounds. That is what Christmas is about.

Were you putting your argument forward for...

Mothers Day? Fathers Day? Valentines Day? Now. There we would find agreement.

But for (Christ's) sake. Let us, can we not, have one real holiday.


Oh, and double time 'aye.'

Teach them the real meaning of Christmas, why do you not?

At least, your real meaning of Christmas.

You can't justify yourself, sir. You're playing right into Capitalism's hands, are you not? But, for the kids...

I did it for the kids...


Sorry. Couldn't quite get around what you were (trying) to say.? :)

I'd like to defend those of us that do not care for Christmas

I just don't like it. It's a sour time for me. I hate all those stupid songs and holiday spirit crap. If you like it, honestly, I'm happy for you. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, but am rather voicing my opinion.

Amen.

Christmas is when we buy gifts with our hard earned money to give to other people. It's socialistic in nature. I don't like the marketing and looting, but it doesn't come out of capitalism. Capitalists buy products all the time for the whole year. Christmas selling is taking advantage of the expected altruism of the comsumer at this time of year. It's a left-wing ideology that's perverted what Christmas is about. I blame The Christmas Carol and other Victorian propaganda stories.

Its my favorite time of the year.  :yes:

I think this is getting blown out of proportion.

I think you should reread my posts. I am not trying to confuse you.

I think what that capitalism takes the front seat during Christmas. That is all I am saying. I am not a big fan about that part of Christmas.


I'm not trying to change anybody's mind. I am simply making my observation. I am protesting nothing.

What is your question?

Christmas is magical for kids, and I make sure they get that. But as they grow up I also explain to them how marketing works so they don't spend their entire lives trying to keep up with the Joneses buying shit they don't need.

Ever wonder why half of America is walking around with 40k credit card debt ?

In this country Christmas is focused on spending money. Simple as that. I am not "protesting" anything, but pointing out that the holiday is like any other capitalist driven holiday. Valentines, Mothers Day, Fathers Day etc. It is the same as those, if not bigger, from a consumer standpoint.



Well, for instance, I will buy my son some new toys this Christmas. He already has a million and one useless pieces of plastic in his room. Like most young boys (In USA anyway) he will play with it, and either break it, or forget about it, and then go on to play with something else. These toys will accumulate in his closet until they are overflowing. Soon, more will be added as different occasions role around. Another football this year? Probably. Does he already have one? Probably has about 4 in that room of his. Does he really need it? Nope. Does he probably have enough toys in his room to keep him busy until he discovers women? You bet.

Through marketing however the child has created the demand to the parent. It is dictated through Santa Claus. The kid wants it and looks forward to it. Hell, he may even be a good boy for a few weeks leading up to Christmas.  :hihi: Although my son is much smarter and will still be naughty, knowing full well Santa will still come... :hihi: Marketing is what runs this society, the drive to spend money. Millions upon millions of dollars used in research to do nothing but to get us to spend money.

Is this me throwing a fit over Christmas? Hardly. But it is me pointing out what a huge consumer event it is in this country. I see the usual banter from the right wing nut jobs on this board. Telling me to move away, asking me why I hate America. Why I would want to ruin it. Please don't let their posts turn mine into something dramatic. It is not, nor was it meant to be dramatic. It is what it is.


All earthly posessions I could not give up, because I could not function. However I do my best to keep my needs and wants in two different categories. I want many things, you bet. I am bombarded with images that create wants. I want a new car almost everyday. I love cars. But I have bought the best car I could, and kept it running the best I can, and I will enjoy that car until I can no longer justify the money to maintain it. I also will only buy wants after a waiting period and with cash only. Usually at a discount, either through the internet, or some half off type place (also online).

I do own real estate, but that is not a want. Since it is actually work and will one day (hopefully) secure my future which would be a need. I could pay no money for a new car tomorrow and drive away, but that would utlimately take the money away from my needs in the long run (real estate or other). Clothes I buy at discount type outlet stores only and buy only what I need. My last clothes shopping trip consisted of about 150 dollars and my last shopping trip before that was 5 years prior.

I have credit available to me unsecured and secured for roughly 120k dollars. My balance owed to the banks? About 1100 dollars. This money was taken out not for a want, but for a need. I used it to put money into a home I am fixing up. I will borrow money, only if, it can make me money. But I will never use credit for anything else. Even emergencies I will pay cash.

That is the best I can live my life without buying shit I don't need right now.


That is something that is all relative.


Let it be countered then. It is my opinion that the true meaning of Christmas (and I am no Christian) is second to spending money.



Christmas is the same, if not bigger, marketing wise and consumer wise.


Who is stopping you?  ;D


I have no choice, but to play into Capitalisms hands. And for that short while I will concede to it. It is part of being a parent. Of course I did it for the kids, who else would I do it for?

I think I understand where SLC is coming from, here.  Some people love Christmas and all the trimmings that go with it, and that is fine.  Others might find the holidays to be very overwhelming and, for some, it can be a very depressing & lonely time of year.  We all have to admit that there is a lot of pressure put on us to have the "perfect" Christmas, whether it's the food or drink we consume, the gifts we buy, the decorations we put up, on & on.  All of this is very driven by the media - it's everywhere - magazines, TV ads, newspaper inserts, shopping malls, on & on, & it starts in late August & early September.

When I look around, and maybe it's more of a female thing, but there is this huge drive to do EVERYTHING & do it perfect - decorate the house just so inside & out (& just to get some decorating ideas & make you feel even more inadequate, just go on a house tour where everything is decorated to the hilt with expensive things/page through any decorating magazine); bake hundreds of cookies & candies to give plates to everyone you know, who in return give you plates of more cookies & candies; mail out dozens & dozens of cards to people, some of whom you never even see anymore (and don't forget to insert the yearly Christmas letter that updates everyone on how wonderful your kids are doing :P!); buy gifts for people who already have everything & probably won't really appreciate what you give them anway because they already have it or it doesn't suit their tastes & they will either put it in a drawer or return it the next day (and what's the average cost of a gift, anymore, so you are not seen as being "cheap"?  $50.00 for family members, $300.00/$500.00 per child, I don't even know anymore) - and we buy these gifts for some people because we really want to but I can bet there's plenty on the list we buy for because we HAVE to; go all out to have the perfect holiday party with the best foods, etc.; and then feel obligated (because newspaper or magazine articles suggest you do so, because after all it's Christmas & you don't want to be seen as a scrooge) to give a small gift or tip to everyone from the postal carrier, the garbage crew, the elevator operator, the door attendant, your hair dresser, the kids' teachers/coaches etc., your minister, the neighbors, the parking attendant, your boss, your coworkers, let's see who did I leave off the list here?      It is hurry, hurry, hurry, rush, rush, rush, buy, buy, buy.  And by the time New Year's is here, you have overwhelmed yourself in credit card debt & spent thousands of dollars.  For what?  It's no wonder the suicide rate increases over the holidays.  Some people don't have the family or the money, but the pressure's there.   Stop & look at it - it becomes insane.  Maybe some people thrive on it and have the money to afford all this.  Maybe for others, it's a sad & frustrating time of year. 

For me, I used to dread Christmas. I was a single parent working full time struggling just to make ends meet.  I couldn't afford $500.00 at Christmas, let alone, $1000.00 or more.  Seriously, December meant not paying the rent or the car payment that month just so I could afford gifts & food.  Then, I'd hope to catch back up by tax season.  All of this coming at me every day, in my face, was driving me crazy.  I would get very down in the dumps.  I finally just stopped.  Now I avoid the malls, I buy for only a few people that I want to buy for and then only a little of something I know they really want or need, I only bake a little bit of the things my family really wants to have at Christmas, and I'll be damned if I'm going to start giving a tip or gift to everyone that exists in my life, and I don't send cards. 

I just think that, with all the hustle & bustle & trying to keep up with everything, we somehow lose & miss out on the "true" meaning of Christmas, whatever that may be for anyone (for me it is giving remembrance to the birth of the Christ Child). It is true, the holiday season has become very big & overblown & is definitely driven by commercialism.  Just look around.  I'm not trying to be a humbug here, it's true.  Plus, why do special things for charities and others just because it's Christmas?  What about the rest of the year? 

In the end, will all these material things really matter?  What really makes the best Christmas memories?  It's the quiet & the simple things & the time spent with those whom you love the most.  It's the hush & the stillness & the wonder of Christmas Eve.  If we'd only just stop to listen & take a breath.   

There, I've written my "editorial opinion" for the day! ;D


         

Not that it's any of your business, but we plan to....oh, wait, FUCK Christmas, not FUCK ON Christmas..oops, my bad.

Seriously, though....

We've always made X-mas about family and, given I have a great relationship with my family, it makes X-mas sorta nice.  It's very "Norman Rockwell"-ian, though without the Martha Stewart type pressure that lynn mentions.

And having kids radically changes your opinion of X-mas, too.  It becomes much more "magical" to see X-mas through their eyes...at least so far.  They're young without a real hint of materialism yet.

I do agree, though, on the fact that X-mas can be very much a material thing.  SLC makes some good points.

Having children does make a difference.  Christmas becomes more magical for those few years.  Christmas was magical when I was a kid too, but I didn't have to worry about anything except finding presents under the tree Christmas morning.   It's just never the same once you reach the pressures of adulthood, it just isn't. 

CHRISTMAS RULES!!!!!!  :peace:

Christmas is AWESOME everyone knows that!!  And dont be replying "Just because you still get presents" I love BUYING presents more than getting!!  Its just fun with your family!

How can someone hate Christmas.. That's impossible!

This guy did, for a while anyway..........

(http://tinypic.com/i3sb3b.jpg)

God, Carrey doesn't look healthy there.

slcpunk need to go to whoville :yes:  it wasn't about presents in whoville

Dear god.  Please let me never ever ever ever grow up.  Amen

Wanna go with me? I'll pay for gas.........

I hate to sound like a bad Christmas TV special, but Christmas is what you make of it.  If you're one of those people who totally stress over buying people shit and making everything just right you're gonna hate Christmas.  Its not supposed to be a time to stress.  Buying people stuff is cool, but don't make it the reason for the day.  Its supposed to be about spending time with friends and family and having a good time.  And if you're religious you got that aspect going for ya too.  Gift-giving should be to enhance the feeling of goodwill that Christmas is supposed to bring.  Its not supposed to be a fucking contest where everybody's trying to outdo one another.  Keep it nice and simple and you'll enjoy it a lot more.  I know that sounds corny as hell, but its the truth.

Can I come too?  I feel like I live there.  I read that book to my daughter everyday from Thanksgiving to New Years last year.  So far she hasn't asked for it this year though.

Damned right.   :D  And it did sounds...erm... slightly corney but thats aok!  : ok:  You made your point and you made it hellavu well!!  ;D

I don't think it sounds corny at all.  It IS the truth. 

Yeah its the truth and I said that.... but it does KINDA sound corney.   But remember - corney dosent alwasy equal bad

If it did how could I be a Trixter fan?   :hihi:

Rob, you're a Trixter fan? You are the first fan of them I have ever known. God, I hated them. I remember when they first came out, MTV had all these great videos on at the time(Lenny Kravitz,Slayer,Tesla,Megadeth,Slaughter,etc.) Then, all of a sudden, they started playing that Trixter video every few minutes. MTV was trying to force people to like them. Thankfully, they fizzled out after a few months. :peace:

Yeah, I do admit I own the first two Trixter albums and think they're ok.  They're not one of my favorites or nothin', but I do give them a spin every now and then.  I know of 2 Trixter fans (1 being myself), so I don't think you have to worry about a comeback anytime soon.   :hihi:  They're Jersey boys though, so I gotta support the team.

Ooooo, never heard of them before, are they 80s/early 90s cheesy hair metal? I'm always looking to discover new hair metal cheese....

...oh and Loften, dude, that's the first time i've ever seen anyone associate the words 'Great' and 'Slaughter' nearly everyone i know who's heard of them hates them....

....and on topic, Christmas is great, fine it's not as good when your older but still getting together with your family is fun.  This year for the first time in like 10 years my aunt and uncle are gonna join us again for Christmas which is cool, the more the better....

I liked Slaughter.   :-[  Never heard of trixter though.

I liked Slaughter too, I only know a handful of tracks but "Fly to the Angerls" was a killer ballad.

Suprised you'd hate them Stoned as only time I see their videos is right after Poison or Skid Row on some 80's revival show.

Yeah, Trixter is quite cheesy hair metal.  They got a late start so they never got too big.  Their albums are pretty hard to find in stores, so if you're looking for them you're better off looking on the internet.  Its weird cause Slaughter is actually one of those hair metal bands I don't like.  It seems that way more people like Slaughter than Trixter, but I could never get into them.  I can't stand Mark Slaughter's voice.

Never said i hate them i haven't heard anything by them either the reason being people always seem to be negative about them and i've never got round to checking 'em out, busy with Enuff Z'Nuff at the mo.....

Like I said, I only know a handful of tracks by them, and if your ever in the mood for a power ballad, "Fly to the Angels" is a good choice by them.

Slaughter is a band I can only tolerate in small does because as Rob said, Mark's voice gets fucking annoying real quick :-X

People like John Lennon's Xmas song? I wonder cause I've heard a few people rant about that song, dunno why  ???

'Up All Night' and 'Mad About You' are Slaughter's other good songs.

VATICAN CITY -
Pope Benedict XVI said Sunday that Christmas festivities have been polluted by consumerism and suggested that assembling the Nativity scene in the home is an effective way of teaching the faith to children.


Nativity scenes are a common sight in Italian homes around Christmas time, and in an annual tradition children came to St. Peter's Square bearing Nativity figures of baby Jesus for the pontiff to bless.

"In today's consumer society, this time (of the year) is unfortunately subjected to a sort of commercial 'pollution' that is in danger of altering its true spirit, which is characterized by meditation, sobriety and by a joy that is not exterior but intimate," the pope said in his traditional Sunday blessing.

"Assembling the Nativity scene in the home can turn out to be a simple but effective way of presenting the faith to pass it on to one's children," Benedict added.

"The Nativity scene helps us contemplate the mystery of the love of God, which is revealed to us in the poverty and simplicity of the grotto in Bethlehem."

For christ sake - enough already!! We get it, you don't like capitalism and christmas.

Calm down you big baby.

I thought the article was amusing and all I did was post it. I posted it for all the people who blew my posts out of proportion, like you are doing now (thanks  ::))

We should all know SLC better than that!!  ;)

Now i think about it, Fuck Christmas. Hogmanay is what i'm lookin forward to  :smoking:

Ditto - except replace Hogmanay with "my birthday"  because it is all about mwa!!!!  :yes:

U all better not let Santa hear u say Fuck Christmas! He is real!


Some of u all need a hug or something, get jolly, get happy, get in the christmas spirit!

I said that!  But this thread is like an optical illusion!  The more you look at it, the more twisted your views become   :nervous:

And then...........(http://tinypic.com/ih1gxx.jpg)

Oh My God!!!  What am I becoming!!!  :crying: I need to get OUT of this thread and QUI........ *runs out screaming*

nnaa i used to like it more when i was younger.but now it's just anouther reason to through a party.i don't even feel like decorating this year at all,just ain't in the mood.i guess i''ll get my lazy ass off the couch and decorate soon.as soon as the blunts stop passin by each day.puff puff my nigro lol. :smoking:sooner looks like later with the dec's h a ha. :smoking:

Cool count me in and I get the Vodka and Whisky  : ok:

Some of you people are way too pessimistic. When Santa comes down your chimney, I hope he farts in your faces.

bah humbug, thank god its almost over !

Another Xmas without that special someone....

Ouch!
 :'(

I'll be your special someone!!!  ;D  As long as you dont mind Evo and Axlsmainman joining...? :hihi:

yeah o totally have to agree that christmas can suck my ass...when i was a child it was all magical and shit..and as the years went on thats when my family would get into arguements. they were neevr a pretty thign to be around and it often became very depressing to even think about jolly ol st nick....then i started dating a girl and i got to spend a couple X-mas' with her and felt a part of something.....then my heart got ripped out ate up and shit out so im back to fuckin disliking xmas....unless santa puts sum poon tang back in my stocking
....i guess im rantign about not having that special somebody but awell fuck it..soon enough she or it will be there lol

That's not a very civil attitude...

Good one!!!

Good one.

here i am somewhat sensable,an i still don't wanna put them dec's up.it's so much work bringing all those boxes up from the garage.and guess who gets to do that little ole' me.i think i''ll get it together sometime today at least.lets hope so lol.

Holy shhhhiiiiiiiip o'  :o
I really wanna see that  :smoking:

Just hold the phone here!

hhmm a strange twist to this post huh. : ok:

Mmmm... there has been a long long lead up.  It's been a long couple of days here at HTGTH

I'm still not much of a fan. Can't wait for it to be over. Humbug.

Look for another religion man, One that you can feel identified with.

Why?

Since XMAS is not only  about the birth of Jesus, and he hates it, he might be more comfortable praising something else instead of hating what most people praise, money.

I dunno if that would solve his issues with Christmas though....... :hihi:

Best to see what he thinks I suppose.

Yes man, I read again that and does make too much sense.  :drool:

I don't know if I can identify with any religion. I like many of the ideas behind Buddhism, but I really don't believe in reincarnation. Also, I am way too self-centered and materialistic to be a Buddhist. I don't believe in the divinity of Christ, or believe Muhammad actually talked to God via Gabriel, so that rules out Christianity and Islam. I guess I like Judaism the best, with it's emphasis on laws for ethical living.

Take a little bit of all and make a nice salad............

As long as it makes you be a good person who cares what you call it.

Nixonism

But I want to be EVIL!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Scrooge.

 :hihi: I will follow that  :yes: