Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is a post from the TS board:


I hope this guy knows shit...

Let's hope so, 'cause that would mean no album anytime soon, and "soon" must be the word!!

Tommy posted in September about there hopefully being some GN'R news coming. So I guess he was still involved with GN'R at that point and was planning on being involved.


But I do wonder how long these guys will stick around unless GN'R actually does something. They're probably all proud of the work they've done and believe in it, but as another year of no GN'R activity comes to an end you start wondering....




/jarmo

Honestly I am amazed how long they have all stuck around already.. Losing one out of 8 isn't to bad considering the time table.. Part of me just says what is so hard about being in axl's band, you don't have to perform and you never tour.. instead of quiting they just yes everyone to death and play along.. Like most I'm sure they doubt anything ever happening but they also know there is that slight chance of soemthing great happening... To think of all the time n effort they have put into cd or whatever it is called it must be just to hard to walk away.. Even if they don't agree with axl in anyway they do want their efforts to be heard..

The news that Tommy will be doing that show with Soul Asylum is a week or so old, and he is still in the band. Do you really think he will walk away from Guns after being in the band about 8 years?

even the most die hard new ngr fan has to say it hasn't been a productive known 8 years.. he must say I've been with axl 8 years and am yet to even be known as a gnr member or have my material heard,, That has to really suck.. 8 years and can't even tell you when the first album will come out..

If the album is nowhere near completion then yeah i think there is a chance that Tommy (or any of them really) will consider leaving.

It's kinda scary that fortus mentioned, in one of his e-mails, that there was some last minute recording to do. :nervous:

Let's hope this guy misheard whatever he heard? and that the full blown tour thing is with Guns N' Roses throughout most of the year. This would fall in line with what Richard is saying in his emails.

On any of the guys leaving: I wouldn't blame them, but thank them for their efforts and for some great shows (Pukkelpop, MSG). I do hope it doesn't come to that though.

While typing this I realise that I'm hoping a lot here. This isn't the first and will probably not be the last time I'm hoping for something when it comes to GN'R.? The life of a GN'R fan: sometimes you love it, sometimes you hate it, but I for one always come back for more...

Cheers

 :beer:

How many times have we heard something like this for it not to come true. First it was Robin was leaving, then Tommy, then fortus, then robin again, now tommy again.   If Tommy was leaving gnr and going to tour with SA for all of 2006 Tommy would post it on his web site.

Well if I do say,  by December there names will be MUD.  The reputation of the hired guns who cryed wolf (CD is comming SOON,) will coming to haunt them. I wouldn't be saying anymore to the public if I were them( Tommy, Richard, Robin, Brain, Dizzy) To be in the new GNR has become an embarrassment, were not talking about a few months, were talking about yearsssss...... I hope for there own good they know what there doing. I believe in Axl's music but this has become a joke..   

I still want to say 2006 is the year for GNR. I feel the positivity of this happening and want this more than anything, I have no inside connections, these are just my feelings in general.

but what's there to leave anyway, i guess it's cool to do other stuff while waiting for Axl, and i have a really har time believeing that CD will never ever come out....

only a gn'r reunion could change the plans for New gn'r obviousely...

and then Buckethead....

I'm 99.99% sure it's just all talk as usual too, but if GNR lost Tommy I think we might as well start up threads like "odds of GNR in 2011".

I know I'm biased towards Tommy but him and Richard are the two hired guns that I think are the most valuable to this project IMO. ? I think in certain aspects, as the "new" GNR keeps going we grow to a more personal level with the new gunners and it gradually becomes a band again instead of a solo project. ?That's why continuity is probably the second most important thing to the new GNR, besides the actual music.

there's nothing wrong for hoping, but every year around this time we always say 2000 whatever will be the year.. Eventually wether the album comes out or someone splits something has to give... At this point in time I hope anything happens good or bad so something is said..

Like Jarmo said and others have mentioned too in the past: It's no wonder if these guys are looking out for other projects.

I guess that Robin and Pittman haven't really done anything but GnR?

Even if they have great contracts that give them loads of money (Brain lol) - they still all have passion for their instrument and for music in general. As time goes by I'm sure that they have all wondered "WTF?" and have started to look at other projects and eventually other more permanent based projects.

Just my 2 cents...

Anyway I hope that this isn't true. Sure Tommy could drop out of the Soul Asylum tour if GnR would start up - But to me it's really worrying if Tommy is thinkin about bookin his whole 2006 at this point.

 I imagine if Tommy is really thinking of leaving Guns and becoming the permanentt bassist for SA, he will put something out there on his www site saying so...I've said that these guys won't leave guns b/c they don't have to-they can always do what they want until Axl calls them back in...but that statement was predicated on them simply wanting to play and make some dough while they wait for the big payoff, but if Tommy's found a group he can both tour and record music with which he knows will be released, that changes the dynamic...and it wouldn't surprise me to seem him divorce himself from gnr. And that really sucks. :no:

I wouldn't be so sure if they've got paid from the project as you say for a quite while.


Surely he nose shit.

When the band starts up, they'll be in. And Tommy will be fucking first in line to get back on board.
Till then, they can suit themselves for all I care.

I think Tommy can do the Soul Astlum thing without leaving GNR. But if he does leave Guns, we can forget about CD. :crying:

This new band is EXACTLY turning like the old one toward the end in 1995/96...the members slowly go away...

it doesn't matter if he leaves.. The reason I am ssaying is because if he does that means cd was never in sight to begin with, otherwise why wait all these years to leave pre release?? Not likely... Also I doubt he will leave there is zero effort or resposibility to being in this band,., It's a great fall back if something ever happens.. The only annoying part about being in this band is being there 8 years and no one even knowing it, and the annoying emails and small questions about axl or cd

Yeah, I feel sorry for the "hired guns". Just imagine how psyched they were to join GNR. They couldnt have dreamed up this scenario in their worst nightmare. You make a good point, but I dont think these guys are going to wait around forever. They are wasting the prime of their lives sitting idle, and at some point that fact is going to make them sick, and no amount of "money for nothing" is going to cure it.

thing is they aren't sitting idle.. They aren't wasting their years because they don't have to do anything with gnr.. it's not like they have some better chance of joining abigger badn then gnr..

i just feel that axl fucked them because he should have neevr bothered these guys to begin with since he wasn't going to be around or active

why do you guys even give a fuck about what that guy wrote? He doesent even give us a source!
Tommy is in GNR, and he will be back with the band in early 2006! So dont fret!

I'm not saying his comments are true, but just because he doesn't have a source doesn't mean shit. If these forums didn't demand that you name your source, we would have more information about CD by now. But I also understand that if you didnt have to name sources, then there would be 100 rumours a day. Its a catch 22 situation.

i don't give two fucks about what anyone says to be honest.. 2006 I'll believe it when I see it

com`on people!
No one have talked nicer words about GNR then Tommy!
He would never leave GNR for a band like SA! And yeah, there is alot of
rumours about this and that! But i dont really think you should take every sentence
to your heart! I could say Brain was going on hollyday with my grandmother, and some
of you would belived it!

nobody believes tommy is leaving.. Wether here or there I would never know anyways, it's not like axl's band is active.. Why would tommy leave he has the best job ever, never have to show up for work...

Some people just can't miss any opportunity to moan.

Since when is stating a fact considered moaning? :confused:

what is stating fact? I guess your the one to know?

Its not moaning to speculate on what may well be another negative indication for Guns

If it is true and the guy is committing himself to tour with SA next year, 2006 is looking a dicey proposition

I don't know if Tommy is contractually obligated to Guns N Roses, but as Jarmo and other have said, you can't hang around and be loyal forever. The guys still in GnR love to play music, and would like nothing more than to release a CD and play live all over the world. But whether it's just Axl, or the lawsuit, there's only so much they can take.

However, Soul Asylum touring for most of 2006 sounds ridiculous to me. I happen to like Soul Asylum (I'm from Minneapolis, too) but this band doesn't seem capable to go on a world tour. They would just play large clubs, I assume. It wouldn't be something so time consuming or finacially lucrative that would make Tommy think about leaving GnR. I think that would only happen when it's painfully clear that Chinese Democracy is not happening.

100% correct. I've been saying that for a long time. If Tommy leaves, we can forget about CD. He is obviously a crucial member of new GNR, and his departure will be the trainwreck for CD.

axl should have just hired some guys to make his record then get a new band or something when he toured or if those guys were free get them.. The thing is he needs control of everything so he shouldn't have wasted any ones time except to play the instruments..

You can't expect not to do anything for that many years and have 7 guys just return when you decide to do something..  Then have some excuse that the guy who left fucked up your plans.. Like newflash if they didn't have to wait they wouldn't have left

Mike you make very good point. If Tommy or any other bandmember leaves, they really cant be blamed, all the blame in such a scenario should be bestowed on Axl's shoulders.

Without knowing him its hard to know, but I think Tommy is still very much interested and commited to GnR, and whether this Soul Asylum thing turns out to be true, Im sure he would return to GnR when needed. There's no denying Buckethead's departure initiated a domino effect within the lineup, its just a matter of time I think before that effect comes to the surface..

'06 release or not, things are just heating up.

Maybe Tommy just wants to play music.

That's my guess too.

s Come on guys, stay focused on the positive side of the things and don't wish yourselfs into another year of nothing. We will get whats been promised : ok: :yes:

And the positive side of things is?

Maybe I'm being a pessimist, but we've been told too often things are 'on the horizon' (soon, hairs breadth, launching pads etc) and then nothing happens...

It would be sooo much easier if the man just throwed us a frickin bone here...common Axl!

I agree 100% with you!

Tommy is still with GN'R

Alot of the other band members are active with other projects, so there should be no need to look at Tommy in a different light

I think people are more concerned not with his present situation but more If he would consider leaving in the near future should Axl do nothing productive soon.

Care to expand on whose not? hmmm, I wander

Myabe it is a time... to find a new bassits.
Connecson... offcourse

Axl , I mean look he is the only member who never  says anything about the band. :yes: