Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Ok, theres a faint possibility that GH2 is masquerading as CD - very faint I feel. So that leads us to believe that Geffen are releasing another GH and this will inevitably delay CD some more - I'm thinking if GH2 is legit, we won't see CD for at least another year, probably more.

So the question beckons, at what point does Axl and more specifically his fans, conceed defeat? This isn't a question for bashing, I'm actually wondering how much it will take for people to give up once and for all?

I've been waiting a long time for this - since 94. ive been a fan a long time and theres no doubt i'll be a GNR fan my whole life. But I really am approaching a point where I view CD/nu GNR as a complete failure. I have always been dubious of this new incarnation but at the same time willing to give them a chance. I have always felt that although this new GNR dont have the magic that the original band did, theyd still make an amazing album. So, i'm close to thinking this thing will never happen - close but not quite over the edge yet.

So i put the question out there - at what point will you all realistically say "this project has failed"? Again, this isn't supposed to be a bashing post, I'm more interested in 'taking the pulse' of the diehard GNR fanbase at this stage.

If need by i'll wait another 50 years, after all life goes on, its just something to look forward to, i know its frustrating but seriously, out side of this forum, how much of the time do u really worry about the album?

I think Axls statement at the VMAs is the way to take the whole waiting thing, "don't wait, live your life."  I see your point, but their is other music out there.  By the way, Jeff Buckley was the man!  I love that album!

Never my friend! I have been a fan since 1986 and I will always have faith! Dont get me wrong I want this album to come out now as badly as anyone else in the guns world and get frustrated with the delays, but I will never give up on the band or especially Axl and what I believe his vision to be! I fucking love what Guns n Roses have achieved and created over the years! And as for Axl himself the man is a fucking genius! So I will never say this project has failed! I wait patiently whilst getting on working hard at my job, supporting Ipswich Town Football Club, playing football at the weekend and then getting very pissed and trying to tie up buying my next house, just generally getting on with my life whilst waiting for the Holy Grail which is Chinese Democracy! Cheers Mike

Good call Izzy.  The only time I think about the album is when I have free time on my hands and I come here.  Other than that occasionally (every 4-5 months) the issue will come up with either my friends or my brother and we talk about it. 

I think some on here really think this could be the end of the world.  I always keep my expectations low so that when I am let down I won't be surprised or upset.  Although I wish all people would take this towards Chinese Democracy (and life in general for that matter) I understand that some people are simply more optimistic than me. 

I always have and always will think that the album will never come out.  Of course I want it to come out, but I really believe it never will. 

I still find the fact that this is a 2-disc GH very suspicious... Something doesn't add up, besides the fact that all of GNR's charted hits were present on the last compilation.

Im a big music fan in general, so theres always an album Im looking forward to.
This one has been built up and hyped so much that its reached mythilogical proportions.
Coupled with this, GNR is really what kickstarted my obsession with music as an 11 yr old in 1988, so they hold a specail place for me

one of the best of all time IMO  :beer:

c'mon man dont say that , thats the last shit we wanna hear......been hearin' everyfuckin'year!! :no:

i know its disappointing, but I feel thats a realistic statement

I hardly ever even think about GnR if I'm not lurking on here. Everyone i know makes fun of me for being obsessed with a band that hasn't had an album in a dozen years. If the album never comes out....oh well, life goes on.

I'll always be ready for an announcement for CD though : ok: :beer:

Jimmy, nice post.  For me, I'll never give up.  Eventually, it will come.  I try not to worry about things I have no control over.  I find it to be self-destructive.  I'm like most folks here...I'll be happy as hell to buy this album!!!  I'll be a freaking lunatic at the store!!!  What else can I say?   :peace: :beer: :peace: :beer:   

 

And for those of you who think this will delay CD, your wrong.  The only thing I see "The Best Of" doing is promoting CD.  By putting out a greatest hits and best of, your gaining more fans and bringing back old ones.  Then within 6 months you drop CD, and you have a lot more interested fans.  A lot more than you would have if nothing was released previously. 

Let's face the fact, it's been way too long since GNR has released any new material.  Without bringing back there hits and putting them on an album, many people may have just forgot about them, and surely the younger generation may not even have heard of them.  I think releasing a greatest hits, or best of, is a great idea for a band coming back after a long hiatus to release a new album.  GNR had an opportunity to release CD after the greatest hits came out, and now they will have another prime opportunity to release CD after the "best of" comes out.  Let's hope they don't pass on this one. 

I already "tried" dude... but wnna know what? I conect my computer and the first thing on my mind is "let?s see if that?s something new with GNR"... couse we are living YEARS with the feeling that "someting is going to happen today" ... so there you go, they can release GH2, another Live cd, rarities and etc... I will be ALWAYS hoping to hear the new album
 :peace:

I give up at the end of each day and I start to believe again when I wake up.  : ok:

I think, some GNR fans will die before Chinese Democracy is finally ready  :hihi:

Oh, i really hope not! That would not be fun at all! So, i guess you guys can hang in there a couple of weeks more :D

I get to this point at times as well!   :)

Well that could be a new topic all in itself :

"How many GNR fans have died waiting for CD and how will this affect sales?"  :hihi:

I really dont get what you mean by "give up"? GnR already gave us so many great albums to forever remember them by, that I still adore to this day as much as the day I bought them. How can you give up on something, when youve been a fan all along? Right now I consider myself a fan of the old material, while strongly supporting Axl's new music endeavors if they will ever be fulfilled. I dont see why we should get so worked up over this...if making music is no longer a perogative of Axl's, then thats entirely out of our hands, and the most we can do is support him in what ever he chooses to do with the remainder of his life, it would just be tragic to have put so much blood/sweat/and tears into this project only to abandon it.

As for realistically seeing no album in sight, well I really wont do that until bandmembers start leaving or this lawsuit proves to be a royal bitch-arooni-dooni :-\

The only thing I see "The Best Of" doing is promoting CD.

I agree with you, damnthehaters. That was the first thing I thougth when I heard about the Best of album. Maybe Im a bit of an optimist but I feel that there has been a bit of hidden Axl Rose/GNR promotion going on to prepare people for the album. I think it was more than just a pointless act of Charles Branson to dressed up as Axl. He was reminding people of Axl because something is gonna happen in the next few months....
... thats what I think/hope  :hihi:

Richard Branson, I mean.... not Charles..

You know what, I'm never giving up! When I say this to people, they always have the same negative attitude towards it, and I for one am fucking fed up! Fuck the haters! Who are they to tell you to quit hoping? I'll tell you! Nobody! They just can't deal with the wait! ::)

And you know what I think this wait is all about? Its a loyalty test!  A fuckin' loyalty test! :beer: If everyone would just quit being all "Its never comin' out, I'll stick with the old stuff" or "I can't hack the wait anymore, there's no point" then we MIGHT have it by now!! The release of GH and GH2 is to see how many people would still buy a Gn'R album, regardless of new or old, and the only reason it didn't come out after GH1 is because that was hits! All the famous stuff that most people like, so of course its going to sell!

And I agree with Mr. Sinister...I think we might be seeing bonus tracks on that there GH... bonus tracks that haven't been heard before... :o ;D :D

But then again I might just be being my usual optimistic self here  :hihi: :smoking:

Call me christian or naive but I will always believe in GNR without any doubt  :'(

Jesus christ, relax... anyone who thinks that we MIGHT have Chinese Democracy if certain peoples' attitudes would change ON A FORUM is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

"Fuck the haters"?  For the last time, we aren't 'hating' on Axl or any of GNR.  We have reason to believe the album may never see the light of day, and guess what??  I think that feeling is pretty validated right now.  If I were 'hating' I would be putting Axl down for his braids, his clothes, comparing him to his old self, etc. 

If there really is to be no album, then the impact  extends far beyond the fans. It means that Axl is leading  on and fucking over his bandmates, some of whom are  under the impression that there is an album and it will be released "soon" or even "very soon." I don't think Axl would do that, so I can't say that  I have given up once and for all. Frustrated, yes, but I have not given  up. In fact, I check this site all the time in the hope for news about an official release date.

I really don't think I could give up on this, even if I tried. What I mean is, noone has ever connected with me like Axl Rose. If their is a chance that he might put out some new material today, next year, 20 years from now... I know I'd buy it. GnR was the soundtrack to my teens and twenties, and I haven't found anything better yet. There are other bands that I like, but noone has ever topped GnR(or more to the point, Axl Rose). So I wait. Somewhat patiently.

excellent post my friend!!! : ok: You have said what i haven't been able to :beer:

 I think Jimmy meant in concern to the internet fanbase, and how long can it go on. Obviously no one will really "give up", because as long as you're alive you will want CD at some point. This site,mygnr, and others have been sustained for years without anything new. I think the only thing that keeps it going is the friendhips we have with each other. How much longer can "friendships" sustain the GNR online community? Thats the million dollar question. If the hardcore "give up", then he wont even release it. Jimmy, I get the same feelings also. Sometimes I feel like "giving up" and not being a part of this community. But I like the debates we have, and there's some really cool people here. If everyone here gave up, and there was an influx of new people, I also would give up. We are the people who keep the ship from completely sinking.