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Title: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Johan on November 17, 2005, 03:37:51 PM

Hallo Gunners!!
My "guess" is that Cd is closer than ever to be released.
The courtcase was delayed untill the spring 06, guess why?
Mr Axl Rose will be busy with promotion of CD!!!

I think catcher in the rye could be released as a single, december 8 ( 25 years after Mr Lennons death)!!


Best regards/Johan


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Evolution on November 17, 2005, 03:41:46 PM
The courtcase was delayed untill the spring 06, guess why?

Where does it say that?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Neemo on November 17, 2005, 03:44:18 PM
The courtcase was delayed untill the spring 06, guess why?

Where does it say that?

On the bottom of his crack pipe :hihi:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Spirit on November 17, 2005, 03:45:46 PM
Has it been any info on why the courtcase was moved to march 06?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Evolution on November 17, 2005, 03:47:09 PM
On the bottom of his crack pipe :hihi:


Sounds like powerful stuff! Somebody send Stoned a PM :hihi:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on November 17, 2005, 04:15:20 PM
Check out this guys prior posts.  Rather interesting.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: leesixxrose on November 17, 2005, 04:17:36 PM
you wish..............


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Sterlingdog on November 17, 2005, 04:19:47 PM
Check out this guys prior posts. Rather interesting.

I did, and you are right, interesting.  I think no one wants to believe him because he comes off as a little bit arrogant.  But he was right about the greatest hits thing.  Maybe he does know somebody. 


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: coondogg on November 17, 2005, 04:20:15 PM
Check out this guys prior posts.? Rather interesting.

It just so happens his prior posts were correct, mainly info about the first Greatest Hits. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss what he's saying......

Edit: seems others are seeing the same thing


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: nesquick on November 17, 2005, 05:13:12 PM
Quote
Edit: seems others are seeing the same thing
Who?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jimmythegent on November 17, 2005, 05:17:04 PM
very interesting...


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: busngabb on November 17, 2005, 05:18:43 PM
What a load of she-ite!

How on earth can any band release a single on the 8th December that has not been promoted by or ciculated to radio stations before now?

I'll get down and pray he's right of course, but this seems even less likely than GH2 being released.

Personally I see Geffen being pi$$ed off and releasing GH2 and it results in another court case and another 5 year delay.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jimmythegent on November 17, 2005, 05:25:55 PM
I guess that depends on what camp you belong in regarding promotion.

I for one, feel that little to no promotion is really required - this thing is so shrouded in secrecy that a low-key, word of mouth type deal is all that is needed.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on November 17, 2005, 05:26:57 PM
Check out this guys prior posts.  Rather interesting.

It just so happens his prior posts were correct, mainly info about the first Greatest Hits.

yes. I remember that giant thread from early '04.  I think he even proved Mysteron wrong about the GH1 release.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on November 17, 2005, 05:28:11 PM
Well, a single is how you start promotion.  It's pretty simple really:  press release, single, video, album.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: GNRSANDMAN on November 17, 2005, 06:06:46 PM
 Yes it is very simple.  And it will happen one day and this all would really be pretty smart. Release single Dec 8th. Then best of (and I do love that title, Welcome to the Jungle, The very best of Guns N Roses) Then video, then album first quarter 2006.     :beer:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jarmo on November 17, 2005, 07:01:58 PM
My "guess" is that Cd is closer than ever to be released.
The courtcase was delayed untill the spring 06, guess why?
Mr Axl Rose will be busy with promotion of CD!!!


Well, that would be nice if that was the case. Unfortunately at the moment there's no proof of it being true.

For example, a release date or word from Axl himself about his plans....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: -Jack- on November 17, 2005, 07:11:30 PM
Be4 you guys comment on this thread make sure to check Johan's previous posts. Theres only about 10.. so its not a long read. The guy posts intresting stuff thats for sure. Could be bs though.

If he put the case back to 06 just for the Chinese Democracy release.. then I doubt hes gonna world tour.. or anything big like that.. unless he waits till after the case.. sometime in late 06...  :nervous:

   -jack


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: ppbebe on November 17, 2005, 07:18:10 PM
Yeah but in one of theose he said that Cd would never see the light of the day.

This post says he guessed wrong.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Smoking Guns on November 17, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
I guess I will have the honor of saying it this time.  I can't beleive someone else has not already.



"CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: killingvector on November 17, 2005, 08:23:27 PM
Can someone check Mr. Johan's IP addie? where is he posting from?

Very interesting track record. He has been right all this time.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Continental Drift on November 18, 2005, 12:15:07 AM
I'm inclined to believe him... when he said cd didn't exist- I read that as his opinion based on what his sources felt about the matter... not as the reporting of actual news. I'm sure high-ups at Universal, who are not intimately involved in CD, have given up several times and concluded that the thing doesn't exist. It must be frustrating as hell to be beaten over the head about how the "golden goose" (CD) is going to come along one of these years and line everyone's pockets- only to have it constantly fizzle out... especially for execs not directly involved.

Anyway, sounds like his sources are somewhat more optimistic at the moment... which ain't much... but it's something. : ok:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Buddy J.B. on November 18, 2005, 12:18:36 AM
On the bottom of his crack pipe :hihi:


Sounds like powerful stuff! Somebody send Stoned a PM :hihi:
Good one! I almost spewed iced tea on the keyboard.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Scabbie on November 18, 2005, 06:08:23 AM
How do you check someone's previous posts?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: roxxi on November 18, 2005, 06:21:49 AM
So.. He was right about GH1, but he could be using that to spread misinformation now..

Still, gotta love all the rumors.  :peace:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on November 18, 2005, 07:03:08 AM
How do you check someone's previous posts?

Profile ---> show the last posts

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=3179;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: KaptainKuntra on November 18, 2005, 07:35:21 AM
Do singles come out on Thursdays in the US then (Dec 8th)? I thought it was Tuesdays.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Sin Cut on November 18, 2005, 07:46:29 AM

Hallo Gunners!!
My "guess" is that Cd is closer than ever to be released.
The courtcase was delayed untill the spring 06, guess why?
Mr Axl Rose will be busy with promotion of CD!!!

I think catcher in the rye could be released as a single, december 8 ( 25 years after Mr Lennons death)!!


Best regards/Johan


Hell yeah!

It's been a good day, and now it got few steps better!


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: god of thunder on November 18, 2005, 08:09:31 AM
Hmm strange

Johan doubted the existence and release of CD all year until now???? huh??


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jarmo on November 18, 2005, 08:32:16 AM
Can someone check Mr. Johan's IP addie? where is he posting from?

I can, but since he's not doing anything "wrong", I'm not gonna say anything.


It's one thing when you claim to live in Los Angeles and your IP# is in Europe (for example), but Johan hasn't claimed anything like that as far as I know.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: madagas on November 18, 2005, 08:39:01 AM
key word in Johan's post-"guess"-poppycock! :yes:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Charity Case on November 18, 2005, 08:39:32 AM
Hmm strange

Johan doubted the existence and release of CD all year until now???? huh??

Those other posts were from 2004...he hasn't posted anything in over a year before this post. ?He doubted the existence 18 months (as alot of people did)...now he may have more info.

But since singles are released on Tuesdays, I'd say his info is bad this time.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Neemo on November 18, 2005, 08:51:55 AM
Hmm strange

Johan doubted the existence and release of CD all year until now???? huh??

Those other posts were from 2004...he hasn't posted anything in over a year before this post. ?He doubted the existence 18 months (as alot of people did)...now he may have more info.

But since singles are released on Tuesdays, I'd say his info is bad this time.

I'm not saying this Rumor could be true or anything, but CD Singles aren't very popular in North America. If a single is released it would prolly be to radio stations. And I'm guessing a radio premier of a song could be any day of the week. I don't know anything about radio stations though. Maybe darknemus could shed light on how that works in general.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: kyrie on November 18, 2005, 09:47:52 AM
Hmm strange

Johan doubted the existence and release of CD all year until now???? huh??

Those other posts were from 2004...he hasn't posted anything in over a year before this post.  He doubted the existence 18 months (as alot of people did)...now he may have more info.

But since singles are released on Tuesdays, I'd say his info is bad this time.

He said "I think" in regards to the single. He could therefore be unsure of the date or simply forgot it when posting.

From his post, English may not be his first language, so maybe he's somewhere where singles aren't released on Tuesdays?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Lesty on November 18, 2005, 09:52:41 AM
Hmm strange

Johan doubted the existence and release of CD all year until now???? huh??

Those other posts were from 2004...he hasn't posted anything in over a year before this post. ?He doubted the existence 18 months (as alot of people did)...now he may have more info.

But since singles are released on Tuesdays, I'd say his info is bad this time.

I'm not saying this Rumor could be true or anything, but CD Singles aren't very popular in North America. If a single is released it would prolly be to radio stations. And I'm guessing a radio premier of a song could be any day of the week. I don't know anything about radio stations though. Maybe darknemus could shed light on how that works in general.

That's right. Especially in this day and age, a single could drop at a moment's notice..at least in the US. And that's not to say there will be a single available in stores, but a promo CD sent to several radio stations, and having it available digitally at iTunes. That would take very, very little effort to make happen. Not saying it will, but it's entirely possible.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: erose on November 18, 2005, 10:05:18 AM



I think catcher in the rye could be released as a single, december 8 ( 25 years after Mr Lennons death)!!



this sounds cool to me!

i really hope it happens, it would also give merck back his cred and that goes for dizzy and tommy too...

we can only hope....



Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: younggunner on November 18, 2005, 11:16:10 AM
forget about singles and when they are released. It is rare and no1 cares about the actual single cd anymore here in the US. A single can be played by the radio station at any point in time.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jarmo on November 18, 2005, 11:17:22 AM
forget about singles and when they are released. It is rare and no1 cares about the actual single cd anymore here in the US. A single can be played by the radio station at any point in time.

True. Just make the single/track available on Itunes and other digital music sites.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Sterlingdog on November 18, 2005, 11:44:09 AM
I think part of the confusion with Johan's posts is that he tends to combine what he "thinks" with what he "knows" (or claims to know).  If you really read what he wrote, he only said he thinks the single could come on December 8.  He didn't say anyone told him that. 

For those wondering where he's from, I think he said in one of his previous posts that he was from Europe, didn't he? Anyway, he was right about the GH thing, so the question is did he really have "inside" information or was he just lucky?  Could he have got the information from some other source, available to everyone? 


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: ppbebe on November 18, 2005, 11:45:21 AM
Or a MTV premier of a promo.

By the way, people, don't be fooled by 'insiders'  2 cents put in among their hearsay info!  :peace:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: ironfin on November 18, 2005, 11:45:42 AM
Right everyone get down on your knee's and pray to God this is true. I am not joking


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: dolphin on November 18, 2005, 12:04:08 PM
the title of this thread made me think that GH2 is involved in a court case ???


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: CAFC Nick on November 18, 2005, 12:09:34 PM
Right everyone get down on your knee's and pray to God this is true. I am not joking

Amen to that


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Butch Français on November 18, 2005, 03:18:29 PM
Johan is either a Norwegian or a Swedish name isn't it?...at least it's a pretty common name here in Norway.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Nightfall on November 18, 2005, 03:23:19 PM
Also here in Holland :)


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: ppbebe on November 18, 2005, 03:38:26 PM
Johan is either a Norwegian or a Swedish name isn't it?...at least it's a pretty common name here in Norway.

Isn't it equivalent to John? Originally Johannes. John the Baptist or the Apostle.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Neemo on November 18, 2005, 03:43:55 PM
I dunno about this, I think if we see anything before christmas it'll be a Single only, maybe this guy is right? he has been before. My local store said nothing shows up on their computer about an album though so I doubt any album will be out by Christmas

Shouldn't this thread be almost merged with the other one now? the topic is pretty much the same now


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Butch Français on November 18, 2005, 04:10:01 PM
Johan is either a Norwegian or a Swedish name isn't it?...at least it's a pretty common name here in Norway.

Isn't it equivalent to John? Originally Johannes. John the Baptist or the Apostle. :hihi:

hmmm, it's got nothing to do with John as far as I know. lol
we have John's here too, and Johnny! come to Norway, we've got 'em all!!
heehe


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: boston on November 18, 2005, 04:39:35 PM
The best of CD would not being coming out if CHIN DEM was also,

no record co. is going to waste the time and money of puting out both at the same time

GH 2 would be commercial suicide w/ CHIN DEM right around the corner

If CHIN DEM came right after, GH 2 would be ignored and forgotten as soon as the new CD hit stores

Marketing is part of the Game, no one thought of this one ?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: ppbebe on November 18, 2005, 05:07:11 PM
Or rather, CHIN DEM release may well help the sales of GH 2 (iff it's real), as well as the sales of GH reissue ('s real), I suppose.

we have John's here too, and Johnny! come to Norway, we've got 'em all!!
heehe

As jarmo -> yarmmo, Johan -> yohan,
You pronounce them as...yon and yonny,  perhaps ??? heehe


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: norway on November 18, 2005, 05:19:57 PM
Johan is either a Norwegian or a Swedish name isn't it?...at least it's a pretty common name here in Norway.

Hallo Gunners!!
Hallo= Norwegian hello :phone: <<< "hallo"

come to Norway
lets party :wave:


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Neemo on November 18, 2005, 05:21:55 PM
Or rather, CHIN DEM release may well help the sales of GH 2 (iff it's real), as well as the sales of GH reissue ('s real), I suppose.

we have John's here too, and Johnny! come to Norway, we've got 'em all!!
heehe

As jarmo -> yarmmo, Johan -> yohan,
You pronounce them as...yon and yonny,? perhaps ??? heehe

I'm tired of those names ::) (I couldn't resist :-[ )


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: nesquick on November 18, 2005, 06:16:42 PM
Is Johan an insider? because he said lots of real things in the past. I'd like to believe him but...I think the best of is serious. I don't think it's a cover-up for CD anymore.


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Butch Français on November 18, 2005, 06:30:16 PM
Johan is either a Norwegian or a Swedish name isn't it?...at least it's a pretty common name here in Norway.

Hallo Gunners!!
Hallo= Norwegian hello :phone: <<< "hallo"

come to Norway
lets party :wave:

OH YEAH!! we use "Hallo". you do that in Sweden and Holland too?

let's party Norway dude!


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: jarmo on November 18, 2005, 06:52:34 PM
Talking about first names of posters = off topic
Talking about partying in Norway = off topic

Please stop.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: boston on November 18, 2005, 07:00:42 PM
The best of CD would not being coming out if CHIN DEM was also,

no record co. is going to waste the time and money of puting out both at the same time

GH 2 would be commercial suicide w/ CHIN DEM right around the corner

If CHIN DEM came right after, GH 2 would be ignored and forgotten as soon as the new CD hit stores

Marketing is part of the Game, no one thought of this one ?


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: horsey on November 18, 2005, 08:17:21 PM
i think the hype is groWING !


Title: Re: Gh 2-cd-Courtcase
Post by: Lord Kayoss on November 19, 2005, 12:31:34 AM

My only issue with this guy is that he said in the GH1 thread that Universal had "given up CD" and that the band was finished.  He even said "this is 100% (true)".

Now the infamous and near mythic "Catcher In The Rye" is dropping December 8th and CD soon to follow?

Can't rule out the possibilities in the GN'R world but in my opinion this demonstrates that this guy may be a little quick to judge - meaning the possibility of him "jumping the gun" on this "inside scoop" can't be denied.  How many times have we heard everyone but Axl say the promotion is coming and CD is close?

And on a humorous note: let's say some executive at Universal really did hear from Axl's manager that Axl said he's really prepared to do it now and everything is about to kick off and the album is coming soon.......all it takes is seemingly one day.  The Lakers could lose tomorrow and the whole thing could be shot to hell!!

Don't hold your breath.