Here Today... Gone To Hell!

There's an article about "Sweet Child O' Mine" in the current issue of Q magazine (Dave Grohl on the cover).

It explains the song's origin and has quotes from the band members, Mike Clink and the guy who mixed it.





/jarmo

Cool...
Is the Magazine out already?
Or any internet source for it?

Ummm....can anyone post the article here?  8)

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Let's see how long before it turns up all over the GN'R boards without any credits.....



/jarmo

haha! Great Jarmo!

Thanks for posting that article Jarmo. I already knew Slash hated the intro/song all together when it was first composed but didnt really know the rest of the band were less than thrilled about it. I guess even that far back, when Axl wanted something and the others didnt, he didnt take no for an answer and persued it to the end.

Thanks for that.

When they say "one, two, three takes" - do they mean the whole band played together during the recording, or each individual part took only a few takes to record?

Thanks for posting that article? ::) ,it's very interesting!! :yes:

That article is some months, maybe years old - i've read that in Q before, and i don't have this months copy!

I knew I can count on Jarmo.  : ok: Thanks and it's a great read!  :beer:

Great scan Jarmo!! long live SCOM ;D

thanks jarmo.


So, nobody in the band saw the song for what it is, except Axl.
and Slash still doesn't appreciate the 'stupid' tune but the great response from the audience? What a shame. ???

Without Axl the band wouldn't have had a chance to be a mainstream phenomenon.


sooner than we manage to change the bulb.  :hihi:

Blender had a very similar article in their issue about the 500 greatest songs issue.

This article once again shows how Axl  was really the only one who knew how to develop gnr and make them into something great. I find it funny, their two biggest hits/most popular songs, SCOM and Nov Rain, only Axl liked them and thought they would be great while the rest of the band always hated those songs.  I for one am glad Axl fought for those songs because they are two of the best songs in rock history.

There is no doubt that Axl's drive and pop sensibilities are what PUSHED them to the massive crossover success. Everybody obviously played their roles, but he is what took them from big to huge. At the time, he was the perfect combination of rock and pop. He could be as gnarly as any punk and as pop as Elton John. VERY rare mix.

This argument about Slash vs. Axl on this song always breaks down like the chicken vs. the egg theory and what came first.

Axl supposedly had the vision to know it was great, but without Slash there is no riff to write the song around. So who do you give credit to on the song?

Also, makes you wonder how many similar riffs/moments like this have been trashed in new-gnr because Axl would never finish a song in a day or 2 like this.

SCOM is a perfect example of why this whole wait gets more absurd by the minute. If you hit gold like they did on that, it doesn' take years to write an album. I have heard nothing from New GNR that even approaches SCOM, and it took a day or so.

Maybe instead of patting Axl on the back for his vision we should be patting the other 4 on the back for not allowing him to spend years fussing with a couple songs, otherwise we might still be waiting on SCOM. The new band could learn alot from those guys in that regard. 

i won't call it "patting the other 4 on the back", cause the situation was much differnt back then. they/axl had no money, geffen just gave then some weeks to do an album. there wasn't even the chance to spend years on one song.

Thats why they both deserve credit.

Thats what Axl does best. He knows what works, he pushes the envelope, he make syou better. And thats why I have no worries witht his new band.

FOr starters I know Axl picked guys he feels are talented and can do damge with thier instruments. And I also know he will be able to get the best out of these guys.

ANd your whole "if they have some gems why is it taking so long" is pointless because you have no idea what is really holding this band back.

Just look at VR. Is that the best Slash can really do? Theres some good stuff there but nothing that made me say dam hes back or anything close to what he did in his hay day. Thats because he didnt have Axl to push him.

With CD we will be able to see if Slash has that same effect on Axl.

Axl's inability to release music has shown that it was obviously a 2-way street in terms of the whole "one pushing the other" thing. Call it what you will, but he never had problems the way he is now until those 4 left him.

If nothing else this article is a perfect demonstration of why those 5 were so perfect for eachother, and NONE of them have ever been close to the same since it ended.

really? are you sure about that?

I am sure that we saw albums released on a frequent basis, and they didn't require a 10 year wait. So yeah, I am pretty sure whatever problems he had then have been trumped by whatever mental problems have crippled his inability to release music now.

so if it was up to Slash and the boys would they have waited 3 or 4 yrs to make another album affter AFD and that type of album?

Also they were fed up with Axl because nothing was getting done in the mid 90's.

I believe we would have had something by now if they wouldn't have broken up.

They released LIES in between as somewhat of a holdover, and then it was a 2 year cycle from there. That is about normal for most bands.

Between July of 87 and Sept of 91 we got 3 full albums worth of material and an EP.

My point is if it were up to Slash and them we probably would have had an album sooner. If up to Axl, we would still be waiting. At least put together they put enough pressure on the others to come up with something equitable, which was the release of Lies, and then wait 2 more years and release the Illusions.

The problem is now no-one in the new band has the authority to stand up to Axl and tell him we are not waiting 10 years, and no one in VR has the balls to tell them we need to spend some more time on this.

Even more evidence as to why they all needed eachother so bad because they balanced out the flaws in one another.

but in the end it will come out and in the end one album will sound better than another

And all of that waiting will have killed the impact it could have had were it released in a timely manner.

We could run circles around this argument, fact of the matter is they all needed eachother more than I think any of them realized when they all told eachother to go fly a kite. The fact that it has been over 10 years since they broke up and none of them have been able to recreate the magic of their previous incarnations seems to support that.

And none of them ever will.

That was lightning in a bottle and will never be matched, let alone surpassed by any of them in their future endeavors.

great music can still be made

Naupis, you don't know what Axl has done. He could have 10 SCOM type songs recorded and he just doesn't want to release them-for whatever fucked up reason he has. Then again, he could have crap. We don't know. It also doesn't matter what impact the songs will have-good is good. Axl can make a better album than AFD and it may NEVER have the impact due to the times and circumstances of whenever it is released. And, finally, don't hang anything on the "new band". By all accounts, they have more than done their job and provided Axl with a ton of instrumental music. Lay all blame on Axl for not completing and releasing the material. :(

That's still in doubt.
Lightning never strikes the same place twice?thus the current band stands far fairer chance than a band that remains the same after its burnout.
Did any of Zeppelin's latter endeavours surpass their Physical Graffiti? Hell No.
As appears from many cases, the musical chemistry of a band doesn't last more than several albums. it needs a new chemistry to twinkle again.

I don't believe in magic.
With the clock striking twelve, your strikingly luxury Carriage and four would get back to a stupid pumpkin and rats and your shining silk evening dress would return to shiny rags.
Needless to say, you shouldn't cut off your toes in order to match your overgrown foot to the stupid glass shoe. Wear it only if it fits.

Great point Tank...every band, if it's members don't change, runs on a bell curve of musical creativity..the ascent then the descent. Every great band has done that except maybe the Beatles. At some point, you run out of ideas or our limited by each others ideas and skills. Axl has a fresh start and a whole new, talented, eclectic band to work with. Lightning can strike twice but it is very rare. :beer:

Tanks a lot madagas. ;D


yep, very rare.
I think It happened to the Beatles as they never tried to wear a glass shoe but broke it as soon as it didn't fit them anymore. They changed their shoes as they grow.

Also actually it did so to Jimmy page individually, save that he was forced to change the band name. Otherwise ppl would have known Zep by the name of the yardbirds and might have appreciated the yardbirds classics as well by now.

I should have clarified, apologies.

More pointed, none of the parties involved will reach the levels of universal acceptance/success they once enjoyed.

For me, creativity is measured by the ears of the listener.

Masterpiece to some, crap to others.