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Geffen's release list is up to 12/20.  With no GN'R anywhere in site, is it safe to conclude that 2005 will officially become another lost year?

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I'd of said yes

and so is 2006, 2007, 2008, etc.  It's not gonna happen.  The redheaded asshole is just too crazy to be depended on.

Give it a break mate, way too bloody negative! Keep the fucking faith!

I personally dont think the album will come out in 2005, but even if it was going to I dont believe that Geffen will have it listed on their monthly release lists. This album has been shrouded in so much secracy that they are not gonna put it on their schedule just like that, it would let the cat out of the bag way too easily! I'm sure it will be kept top secret until the official announcement! Mike

It's going to come, think positive, be positive.  :yes: 

Copy that!  : ok:

It like Fortus said " Dont give up on us now!"
I guess he has a reason to say that!

I am sure he was saying "dont give up" 3-4 years ago too.  This is a joke.  Stay positive?  I am positive....that this will not see the light of day.  I went to the first Vegas show in 01 and HOB and I was very optimistic but shit, that was almost 5 years ago.  I am patient but htis is ridiculous.  There are plenty of other bands out there that give a shit about their fans so why put up with Asshole Rose.

Besides, if I remain negative then all that can happen is that I will be pleasantly suprised some day (yeah right!).

It seems like every year it's the same rumored months

March, June, Sept, Nov

I remain skeptical that we'll ever see this album

The music he wrote is already dated.  If he wanted to get on the industrial/techno/rock thing back when it was popular, he shoulda released thi back in 98 and 99.  Fastforward to 2005/2006, rock n roll is coming back finally

LOL! I can't blame you feeling this way, I feel the same now actually. I remained positive for so long and it felt close in 2002 when they were touring but now, who knows. A lot of us have been waiting for something new from Axl since 1993, 12 years ago, so it's even harder for us to remain positive  :no:

2006 holds 3 albums that I am anticipating anyway:

2nd release from Velvet Revolver
debut from new supergroup Army of Anyone (ex STP/Filter)
debut from Panic Channel (Dave Navarros new band)

Those 3 should be amazing albums, obviously i'd take CD over all 3 but at least theres somepromising music coming out next year.

I coulda told you that LAST year.

  Gilld1, you are like The Grinch on top of that cold mountain looking down at all of us happy little Who-Villers here at HTGTH who are just patiently waiting for our best Christmas present ever.  I wouldn't be surprised if the album ever did come out, you'd slide down all our chimneys just to steal it out from underneath our Christmas trees!!!   :hihi:

think before you judge, Axl probably has a good reason to be absent. I think Axl is the kind of guy that has unfinished business outside of music, he probably doesn't want those personal-life issues interfere with his music career. Let him take this chance to battle his personal demons. 

estranged- that's just really dumb.  if you think he's an asshole fuck off and dont listen to gnr.

Axl won't come back.

Estranged ??? I think you got the wrong user dude :peace:

thx to guns n'roses, sanctuary and all the management,
2005 was the guns n'roses year, yes, sure.

i don't even believe official declarations now.
i'm not even sure chinese democracy will be out one day.

i think it's too late anyway.
i don't want to be the fan of a band who just play at las vegas and rio.

elvis is dead mister axl rose, you'll never replace him.

definetly out of the question... The only news is always someone's birthday or something a fan heard a ne\w member say that cd is close..
If cd was near I think axl would be running the gums a  bit

the fact is :

if CD is not AMAZING, i mean ASTONISHING, the BEST rock n'roll album
of these last 15 years, mister axl rose can stop doing music, quit the
music industry, and just disappear.

If collectively, the whole world of rock bands can't put out an album that will become a classic in the last few years...

it`s the same problem with love.... at some point you aren`t able to choose anymore

by the way axl`s cool : ok:

gilld1, Den, Pepe Da Rosa, Kayoss, GNFNR-UK, you have to refuse negitive thoughts otherwise you will not see positive results. Your negitivity is the way to failure, frustration and dissapointment. Your negitive AURA is senced by all people including Axl. I don't thing Axl wants us to give up nor make matters worse. Negitive statements are becoming contagious around here, be more opimistic and expect the best to happen :yes:

                                                             :peace:

thx Yoda.

 : ok:

Of course its not going to come out this year... .you think its going to come out next month????? no.... You would be lucky if it comes out next summer or at all.......but with songs like Madagascar or Silkworms its prob better if he didnt release an album with crap like that under the name Guns n Roses....

Dizzy already said silkworms wouldnt be on the album. Madagascar isnt a bad song, but who knows if it will make the album .

Why so many simple cases of mistaken identity keep occurring lately?
Yeah I know this year has been a good year for wine. :hihi:

What the fuck is up with you people? You are all so fucking negative. I kind of hope you along with all the other moaning fuckers are just trying to have a wind up with people mate, with dumb comments like that. None of really know what the fuck is gonna be on the album. We can only guess. We have only really heard 5 or 6 new songs and if The Blues and Madagascar are on there it will be a fucking great start! Axl and the band have been working on this baby for so long, none of know what material is gonna be on there! Give the band a fucking break and stop moaning about it all of you negative whinging people who just bring other positive people down when we scroll through threads and this kind of shit appears! I still think some people just want an AFD style album because they moan so much about anything new Axl has written, well guess what arsehole its 2005 and music changes! Let Axl show us what he has got and how much he has evolved! COME ON! We are that close to the album now, why keep on with this bollox? Axl will present us fans and the rest of the world with Chinese Democracy and I just hope that you negative dicks feel very silly when the album is as good as I believe it will be. The music world needs a new Guns album and its gonna be pretty fucking special! Mike

I hope thats not aimed at me mate! You wont ever catch me saying a bad word about Axl or the band! Ever!! Mike

Yay, When people realise that Positive thinking is the path!  : ok:

Let me shove the update of my chop -'the number is 8'- logic.  (valid until the end of 2006)

We are talking about Democracy, right?

You know Westminster abbey, just to the west of the house of parliament in London.
There's a room called Chapter House in Westminster Abbey. The origins of British democracy trace back to Chapter House from its medieval beginnings. The King's Great Council first assembled there in 1257. This was effectively the beginning of the English Parliament. The House of Commons regularly used the room in the 14th century, before they transferred to the Palace of Westminster (the house of parliament).

More importantly, Chapter House is an 'incomparable' octagonal. It has Eight faces of walls.
It's the best shape for round-table conferences.

round-table,
round
1. 2002 40 2+2+4=8
2. 2006 44 2+6=8 4+4=8

And this w8,
Everything is pointing at the Number 8! ie 2006  8)

An Announcement/a promo single this year would be nice.

i wish it was gonna be as good as you say or hope.... but Greatest Hits Vol 2 ... doesnt look like the GnR album that everyone has been hoping for.... and if its not as good as you say or hope it is then what?? you think anyone is gonna let Axl fuck around with their time or money liike that again???????   If the album flops after all the Hype Axl would be lucky to be on the "Rock Never Stops" tour .. along side such greats as  Don Dokken, Firehouse, Jani Lane and Stephen Pearcy.....  either that or call Slash.....

I was gonna say something but it was negitive.  :hihi:

Unfortunately I think 2005 is absoluetly out of the question for this cat to be let of the bag..

Its a shame in all honesty because I know the majority of the board, maybe even me in particular were really hoping this was in fact the year especially after Merk's statement several months ago. If someone says "so what just like last year" you have no clue, for me at least I felt it was closer these last few months that in 03 or 04 put together.

I really dont think Axl intended on not dropping it this year or else Merk never would have said what he said. I think Axl was keen on this being the year but either the lawsuits or other personal issues got the better of him. I feel so bad for the band though, almost 3 years after a cancelled tour and still no music to show for their loyalty and commitment.

Not to sound like a broken record, but I truly hope next year is indeed the year of GnR...come on Axl, dont disappoint yet again. With that being said, all we can do is enjoy the music as we were before and hold on to Richard, Robin, and Tommy's sentiments that when the correct moment comes, it will all be worth the wait :yes:

I think this is one of the sure bets.


Aaaaahh................2006 is the year! :hihi:

Maybe we should all try to be positive for the rest of the year. We might be surprised at what can happen if we have positive thoughts. Yeah, 2005 is history, but here's to 2006! :beer:

 :beer:

Woah, woah, woah, Madagascar? Crap?? Although I may be kinda negative about the release of CD (sorry), one thing I have always remained positive about is the quality of the new music, that I DO have faith in. Ive said before i'd take the Blues and Maddy over a lot of songs from the UYI albums. Where some people want a rehash of AFD, I think most of us want something a little different from Axl after all these years, something maybe experimental that proves Axl has progressed so much over the years. Songs like Madagascar are a perfect example of where Axl and the new band are at creatively, damn that song still gives me chills now when the samples kick in over that solo! Contraband is your straight up Rock & Roll album and yeah, it's great for what it is but after all the years of waiting most of us are expecting much more from Mr. Rose.

I have also heard people say the new guns songs sound dated already cos 'Axl tried to jump on the industrial bandwagon'. That was 2 songs - Oh My God and Silkworms. One was a sountrack song and one is unlikely to ever be released. The other songs (Maddy, Blues, CD) aren't industrial sounding at all and don't sound out of date either.

Fuck yeh! Fair play James, its the only way to go mate! Trust me, being all pissy and negative just makes you angry. I've been there done that. Staying postive is much more enjoyable.




What are you talking about man? If god forbid there is gonna be another nonsense greatest hits, its not gonna be authorised by Axl is it, so that wont be his fault, it will be the record companies decision. Also I think personally that this greatest hits bollox is a cover up of some sorts for an announcement on the album or a single maybe!!




This is why I sometimes cant really blame Axl for staying off the scene for so long when people say this kind of shit about him all the time. Fucking pathetic! This is the way I see it: If over the years Axl had come out in public and made comments like "fuck the fans I dont care about them" or "I am never gonna release an album again" then I could understand fans being upset because this bloke is an icon to many many people. But the thing is Axl has never come out and said shit like that. None of know the reasons for the silence for so long, or the reason why we have waited for the album for so long. I'm sure there is a reason and from the litle bits of info we do hear it seems like a lot of obstacles have been put in the way of Axl and the band. Also this lawsuit shit, none of us except the band and their management and the ex-members know just quite how much this may have blocked progress with the album. We as fans can do nothing but speculate. So why spout and speculate shit? I cant believe people again and again over the years claim to know why the album will be shit or what is going on in Axls world? None of know, so lets just give the dude and the rest of the band a break, because I imagine that when all hell breaks loose and everything happens we will get all the explanations we want and it can put all the stupid fucking rumours that crop up every two minutes to bed. Mike

I try to be positive, I really really do, just for some reason when you get older and the super fan syndrome wears off you tend to try to see things more for what they are based on what has happened or lack of it.. I know the band itself is ready willing and able, but the question is can axl gather himself enough and have confidence to release this?

when you get older and the super fan syndrome wears off you tend to try to see things more for what they are based on what has happened or lack of it.. yeah what has happened......And someday you'll realise that you know a fat lot for a fact.
Then, you'll finally understand the words you quote.

Tank-that's my new nickname for you-do you smoke pot? Cause you are one crazy little kitten! :hihi: That "8" stuff is out there....? :nervous:

"Well, you know I need a steam shovel mama to keep away the dead
I need a dump truck mama to unload my head
She brings me everything and more, and just like I said
Well, if I go down dyin', you know she bound to put a blanket on my bed."

Don't be so negative! CD'S coming out! Tomorrow is the day!  :yes:









 :no:

Yeah Mikka, a good try but that's impossible. Be realistic and positive. : ok:


Thanks! That's an honer. Tank Girl is my hero.


Not really. My pot is smokin gold and my kettle is silver.


's Flawless innit?  :hihi:


I don't know how Bo Diddley would walk, but mama I think I gonna start a tank rock move. ( :-\ shit doesn't even rhyme)

I tried a very HTGTH-like format this time.

I am fairly positive for 2006 i have to say. Maybe no news is good news.

In Axl's mind, that is exactly the problem. If he can't deliver the best album ever, he doesn't want to release  at all. He  does not realize that there is no perfection, at least on this earth.

Really? Can you produce any evidence as firm as your statement?


In my eyes, that's exactly the case with some fans here. eg "the fact" you quoted.

Also it often appears that the 80s/90s axl/GNR image is branded on their minds as perfect and any divergence from it is counted for a minus factor.
There're just plenty of examples.