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Mtv is reporing a number of previously released hits discs experienced a surge in sales this week ? most notably, Guns N' Roses' Greatest Hits, which takes #60 with more than 17,000 copies sold thanks to an 18 percent increase in retail interest


Full article (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1513316/20051109/blink_182.jhtml?headlines=true)

I wonder why. Maybe GH will be a stocking stuffer. Interesting to note that GN'Rs best of has way outsold all the Crue's GHs.

I think GNR's music is more well known to the general public. The average Joe will see November Rain and Sweet Child on the same disk and thats worthy of its purchase alone!

My American friends you should start to understand one thing: Motley Crue are NOTHING outside the USA. How can you even think to "compare" them with GN'R? Give me a break. Please. Nobody knows who they are. Total unknown. I don't even know one song of them, I just know the name of the drummer -Tommy lee- because he was married to Pamela Anderson.
99,999999% of the Europeans (and the rest of the world, i'm sure) don"t know who "Motley Crue" are and can't name a song from them. This band is a typicall American "hair-metal" band of the 80's...to sum-up, nobody gives a flying shit of them outside America.

Comparing Guns N' Roses and Motley Crue is...embarrassing. Sorry, but it's just the truth. Nobody knows who the hell they are and what they play.
It's like comparing U2 to...I don't know...Good Charlotte lol.

Very very good post Nesquick. Its true you simply cant compare the two bands. In England unless you are a complete metal head which thankfully I am not, you are considered to be a complete geek if you like Motley Crue. I cringe when I think of Guns n Roses being compared to Motley Crue or any other metal band! Mike

Sorry but what is motley crew?

Vince Neils band.

It's true. Although they did a small arena tour over here in June. So i guess whilst their name means something, not a lot.

And who the hell is Vince Neil?  ???

I somehow learned of Motley Crue @ this board.

No offence to the motley fans but that's true. Until I started to visit GNR boards, I didn't know of Motley crue, poison n such. I still don't like the 80's hair metal sound at all.

GNR is such an exceptional band.

I don't think so, Guns had always been a bigger band

Same for me. I find it pretty embarrassing this comparaison. Same opinion concerning the metal-heads thing. Hoppefully, The imense majority of GN'R fans aren't metal-Heads and have nothing to do with those kind of people. I've been listening listen to GN'R since my childhood, and it's insulting for me to be associated with metal-heads. really insulting. I'm nowhere near of those kind of people and of that kind of music. I'm just a normal guy, I like Rock music, I like GN'R, oasis, U2, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc...where is the "heavy metal" thing? That's not what i like! I have nothing to do with heavy-metal. I'm sick of this "metal-heads" minority among the GN'R fans who like to speak for the other GN'R fans. If you are a metal-head, fine, that's you business, but don't speak for the rest of us. I own over 400+ CD at home, exept the "black album" from metallica, I don't own even one Metal record. That kind of music doesn't interest me.

Rant is over (dawn).

Off topic: Motley's DOD sold 4 million in the USA. ::)

On topic: That's really amazing considering other bands greatest hits come and go on the charts.

Edit: Too the butthead known as Nesquick, why don't you keep your retarded comments to yourself!! A band not being popular in europe doesn't mean their music is bad.  I mean, come on, no one gives a shit about Oasis over here in america.

 :rofl:

Do people on this board compete to show their ignorance?

U haven't heard a single Motley Crue song and yet feel thats more than enough with which to make an opinion on them with?

Having shifted 40 million albums they are one of the highest selling rock acts of the last 20 years. But ur right they re unknown :hihi:

Now, why don't u go back to posts about how metal is just noise and people screaming : ok:

edit: scrolls down - lol - u actually did post another of your rants against ''metal''.

Your like a stuck record

Meh,  if I went around asking people if they could name a Motley Crue song I wouldn't get very many answers.  People may have heard the name of the band (most likely because of Tommy Lee like someone said), but haven't heard any of their music.

Funny how someone will use album sales when it benefits their point of view.

How many copies outside USA? 3 million? 4 million? maybe 5 million? within 20 years of career??:hihi: and i guess it's a VERY specific audience who buys their records. Certainely not "the mass". I'm sure even Sum41 did way better concerning the sales.
It's a typicall American Band. Successfull? yes, but just between NY and L.A., Detroit and Miami. GN'R is (was?) both an American and a worldwide phenomenon. 40 million albums in the USA, 40 million albums in the rest of the world. How can you even compare? it's a non-sense.

DOD came out in '91! I didn't want to turn this into a "Motley" sucks thread. My point was just with GN'R outselling the Crue in GH sales, GN'R has better stood the test of time, compared to other 80s bands.

only reason ppl dont know of motley is becouse they never really toured over there but i belive u can in fact compare them to GNR if u live in america

I think they've toured through Europe.

whatever, No need to piss on other fans just because they have different taste than yours.
Such an act just goes against the proper spirit of GNR, I'd say.


Yep. In fairness, it depends on who they're talking to.

Does it really matter how well an album sells? seriously who gives a flying fuck? There are tons of albums that sell better than GnR, DOesn't mean that I will like them

Motley crue was one of the biggest acts of the 80's and early 90's and got nearly as much radio and video play as GnR did.

The only reason why GnR is more popular right now is cuz of the success of VR and the flop that is the Crue's latest "effort". That's all.

Something like 40% of all album sales happen in this quarter of the year.

It's the run up to Christmas.  MTV are dumb.

Who gives a fuck what other people think?  Like what you wanna like.

But I do agree that it is silly to compare the two bands.  GN'R is like Godzilla and Motley Crue is like those little army guys running around that get stomped on and shit who's mouths aren't in synch with what they're saying.

...and we could do the same for GNR, Metallica - hell Elvis too! - how many people from Congo (purely for example) do u think have the first idea who sung ''Suspicious minds'' :hihi:



and...? That's life - GNR sold 80 million albums, which means 6 BILLION people haven't bought their stuff and most of those probably know less than 2 songs

As one of the few people here that is a HUGE fan of both GNR and the Crue, just let me point out that the Crue are MUCH bigger than you guys are giving them credit for.  Their reunion tour this year has been one of the most successful tours of the year.  I'd even be willing to bet that it sold better than GNR's 2002 tour (on a per show basis).  I went to See the Crue and their show was AMAZING!  Much better than GNR in 2002.

WIth that being said, GNR are a much more talanted and bigger band throughout the world and the US.  I Think one of the biggest reasons that the GNR GH is selling more than the Crue's GH is because MOtley has 4 greatest Hits Albums, while GNR has 1.  The Crue has Decade of Decadence, Greatest Hits, Red White and Crue, and one of those 20th century masters.  YOu gotta figure this into the equation because many people already own a GH by Motley Crue so they didn't go out and buy another one.

People were laughing at the GN'R 2002 tour from the get-go.  It was Axl with a freak wearing a bucket and a bunch of guys who looked like Marilyn Manson rejects.  Of course it didn't sell well.

Imagine what an official GN'R reunion tour would do.  Crue's numbers wouldn't even come close.

Motley Crue's current tour (which is about to hit "c" markets on its third swing through the US) is waaaaaaaaay bigger than Guns 2002 tour. That is a fact.

Two great bands, one more known in the world and the other enjoying a massive US comeback.

Put the shoe on the other foot and look at this way -

Imagine the real GN'R Reunion Tour (the original line-up) as opposed to the botched 2002 tour.

Then imagine Vince Neil touring by himself behind the Motley Crue name.

Who do you think would sell more tickets?


Comparing GN'R 2002 with the Crue reunion isn't accurate unless you're comparing just that - and not who has more marketing power.  A GN'R Reunion would make Motley Crue's numbers look silly.

Well.. this is totally NOT what the topic's about.  Back on track please.

I guess this is to coincide with X-Mas? GNR = Great X-Mas Party Soundtrack  : ok:

So?  They didn't report it as something "unexpected", they were just reporting what happened on the chart for the past week.  How does that make them dumb?   :-\



WTF?  You think people don't know who wrote "Paradise City" or "Blue Suede Shoes"?.... Yeah sure, maybe the people in "Congo" don't know, but that was a stupid suggestion anyways.  I said if I WERE to go around asking people (that is, in Canada) then most people wouldn't be able to give answers.  I think every single person I know would be able to name off a GN'R tune in a second, but I can't think of more than 2-3 people that would know a Motley Crue song.  They're lumped in right with the other "80's" bands.

BTW, just because someone doesn't own an album by a band, doesn't mean they don't know any of their songs.

You know Vince lips synchs now right?

 This isn't a big surprise. Its Christmas shopping season. Just about every album ever released will have a surge in sales. I bet even TSI has sold a few more copies. :rofl:

What a load of crap, They did a UK/European tour in June this year, i went and it was packed. So please get your facts right first. motley crue are an excellent band.

Really? I never heard that one before. I know he sucked when he was solo in 2002 or 2003. I saw him then and he was pretty brutal.

Yeah 4 GH's is pretty excessive. But at least they are a collaboration of the band and not the record company. Also there is only 2 GH's, then 1 live album and 1 b-sides and rarities album, no? cuz if that's the case then we should count live era as another GH compilation. : ok:

Crue has 9 original studio albums to GnR's 3.5+1 of covers. so according to that ratio Motley Crue should have at least 4 GH's  :hihi:

And how can you say GnR has nothing to do with Crue. Didn't they open for them back in the late 80's? Crue was there Before guns and is still making music today. I don't see any new GnR material available yet do you? As to Crue only being relvant in the US (And Canada to I might add) at least they are active in some capacity : ok:

? WTF??? ? what is "blue suede shoes"?
are you serious right now?

and i hate m?tley crue. i came to know them at this board and the only song title that crosses my mind is "home sweet home". by the way i downloaded one of their "greatest hits" records a while ago ( the red, the blue and the crue or something like that :hihi: i guess you know which i mean), so i know what i`m speaking about. ? ?

and i never heard anything about motley crue outside of this board.....

 

I think sales are up because loads of people are wearing the t-shirt of AFD that seem to be everywhere at the moment. It kind of reminds me of in the late eighties/early nineties when everyone was wearing those Jim Morrison and The Doors shirts.

People who don't know anything about Motley Crue, I would guess, are simply just too young to remember.  In the late eighties, even after AFD was released, Motley were easily as big as GNR and had sold many more albums.  Although I admit, not everyone could name one of their songs even back then, their image and reputation was known all over the world.  Everyone who was into hard rock or heavy metal back then was familiar with bands like Motley Crue, GNR, ACDC, Metallica and the like.  Motley Crue just didn't survive the test of time as their music sounds dated, whereas AFD and some of Lies and the Illusions material are classics.

Blue Suede shoes is an Elvis song

But Elvis didn't write it either.

The music and song credits go to:

Carl Perkins

Besides, from what I've heard, GN'R songs were loved by those who were not into hard rock or heavy metal at all as well as those sectional fans. that made all the difference.  : ok:
That's why Axl is popular to this day, even with the Elle girls readers.

Actually Axl is an Icon, and was a good looking one too, that's why he is popular with Elle girl readers. 

Elvis didn't write anything.

then why aint sebastian bach there? he was, according to all the girls i know, hotter than axl...

How hard is it to understand that this is the Guns N' Roses section.

Not Bad Obsession, The Jungle, or even the OMGZLOLWELIKTOTALLYH8MOTLYCRULOLOlE!11!one1 section?

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