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one of my friends is really interested in this stuff and although i don't really know much about it, she's got me interested too! :o i see conspiracies everywhere now :nervous:
just kidding ;D
but can someone please explain this whole new world order/free masonary/illuninati deal to me? i have tried several web sites but they seem so biased, i want real opinions and information because i don't want to ask her, she just talks shit so i want to be able to either prove her wrong or agree with her
you dig? 8)
thanx in advance : ok:

There are so many illuminati/new world order/reptilian/whatever theories that you can't nail down a single one, or even make it all easy to define while covering all the facets.

Basically, the main theory is that the illuminati controls everything in the world.  Then there are the offshoots, some of which are as follows.  They influence (rig) elections in every country.  They are responsible for the disposal (assassination) of world leaders.  They are responsible for creating products that do us more harm than good, but seem as though they're alright for us.  They are experts in mind control.  They may have control over the weather via an instrument known as HAARP.  They may be shape-shifting reptilians (see David Icke's books for more on this theory).  They created the major religions.  They create and escalate conflicts from every side of the conflict.  They created the USSR.  They run many projects under the guard of the CIA, including MK-ULTRA related projects such as Project Mockingbird, the Montauk Project, the Philadelphia Experiment, Project Monarch, Project Bluebird, the Manhattan Project, Project Artichoke, and numerous others.  They are responsible for UFO's and communicating with them.  They faked the moon landing.

There are so many connections here that it's impossible to cover them all here.  If you want something that tells more about it and is at least a fun read, pick up a copy of "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke.  It'll set you back about US$30, but like I said, it's an entertaining read.

yeah i was kinda intrigued by that when i was reading Sex and Rockets  (book about a scientist who was linked to crowley and OTO lodges ...)

it's kinda fun. but not for me, i talk too much. and want too much control.

maybe i should start my own lodge :=)

Hi, Kurupt girl, All I know about the Illuminati, I learned it from the book "Angels and Demons" By Dan Brown, and there are other books that can help you. If you can't buy the book, or you dont have the time to read it, I have some things to tell you about it.

The Art of the Illuminati:

                   The word Illuminati, means the "Enlighted one" its the name of the ancient brotherhood. In the century XVI a group of men fought in Rome against the Church, some of the most recognized Science men, gathered secretly to share their preocupation about the misleading teachings of the Church. They were afraid of the monopoly of the TRUTH, and that the church threathens the enlightment of the cultural world. They founded the brotherhood. The scientists used to gather in Rome in a secret place with was called the Enlightment Church. The power of the organization reached the point where the Vatican church considered them dangerous, and the most powerful antichristian force on earth. They called them SHAITAN wich means Adversary, or enemy in Arab, a language that the church considered filthy, Shaitan is the root of the word Satan.

                                           They say the influence of the Illuminati is so huge that they even put their mark in the current USA money the one dollar bill, as its described next:

Illuminati Symbols:

1.- The Pyramid.- Since there is no relation between the american history and the pyramid, its an ocultist symbol that represents the convergency to the top, towards the main  supreme force of the enlightment.
2.-  Above the Pyramid.- An eye inside a triangle, its called Trinacria appears in the shields of the masonic lodges, but the symbol is from the Illuminati.  The eye means the ability of the illuminatus to see it all, and the triangle, represents the enlightment. The Triangle also means the greek letter DELTA, symbol  in maths of the Change and transition.
3.- At last some words written in the bill "Novus Ordo Seclorum" .- Means New Seglar order,  that means not eclesiastic. It not only clarifies the objetive of the illuminati but also contradicts the phrase... "In god we trust".

   Almost every specialist believes that, that happened for the mediation of the Vice President Henry Wallace. He was a high range Mason, and kept relations with the illuminati. The president was FRANKLIN D. Roosevelt . Wallace limitated himself to tell that Novus Ordo Seclorum  was a way to call the economic and social program also known as NEW DEAL. In fact Franklin  Roosevelt was a mason and he never hid it.

News Reports:

1.- The BBC made some news reports of Historical Type, about the life of Churchill. A catholic indeed but in 1920 he stated against the illuminati, warning to the English people of a conspiracy in world scale, Published in the London Herald  february 8th 1920.

2.-Woodrow Wilson tried to warn the growing control of the illuminati over the american bank system, He said: There is such organized power so complete, so dominant, that uttering words against its name means to glorify them.

3.-According to the BBC, the Rhodes scholarships wich are given centuries ago, get the brightest young minds in the world and fill the lines of the illuminatus. In fact there are indicators that suggest that the Illuminati come from the Galileo times, the Guerenets of France,  Los Alumbrados from Spain, and Even Karl Marx and the Russian Revolution.


Facts about the Illuminati:

                  On the other hand It's no secret that the power of the Illuminati is the infiltration, in fact Churchill (Winston) said: - " If the english spies would have infiltrated the nazi army as well as the Illuminati infiltrated the  English Parliament, the war had been over in a month.

                  In 1678 there was "The Purge" a situation where the Church marked 4 Illuminati Scientist with the symbol of the Cross, as a punishment for their "sins". After marking them the scientist were assasyned "killed" and their bodies were thrown to public places around Rome as a warning to the scientists that pretended to join the Illuminati.

                  It was also known that the fortune of the Illuminati came from the Rothschild, Bilderberger, and the Bavarians and the major symbols and marks of their power were 4 simple signs that represented Science in that time:

1.- Fire
2.- Water
3.- Wind
4.- Herat

   The Church made up lies in order to make the Illuminati seem like satan worshippers, with time the enemies of the church emulated the illuminati, but believing the Lies, the Church had told about them, that is how the Modern Satanism was born, another example, Lucifer Lucipher means in the latin meaning: the one who brings the light, the enlighter or something like that.

               Time spent and the Church reached a point where they claimed that the Illuminati was only a product of the imagination.

   I hope you enjoyed the reading, tell me if there are words or statements you dont understand -- maybe I made mistakes translating it-- by the way I would like to know what  does your friend tell you about them and what you think about this. BolivianP.S.N.

@;--,.--.,--,.-,-.---- t.p.r.

The search function would reveal about 8 other threads on this topic - but, hey, u can never have to many ::)

With the decline in god people need something else to believe in - ghosts, hidden orders etc - its pathetic.

If the world was run by a group - why is it so badly run?

It's npt badly run, you think it is because you do not have its control, but really, they do not want people to be happy, like left wingers say, poor people vote too. ;D

let's start a GNR lodge ... oh wait... we're already as insane as the OTO  A:A ones ;)

Fascinating story about the illuminatis, at least for me that I'm pretty ignorant at that issue. One thing is for sure histories and urban legends come from real facts  : ok:

Chris Pittman is a member of this too  :hihi:

lmao :hihi: what the fuck :rofl:

Hey Carlos you know if there is a Spanish version, yesterday I went to the store and wasn't any spanish version.  :nervous:

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mental note. Kill all on this thread to protect "The Brotherhood" **wink wink, nudge nudge**

there ARE no illuminati
i can help ya on your english homework if ya want :)

my mistake was with my understanding of what the illuminati was rather than my grammar. i thought it was an organization, hence "is".


yours in shame,

2na

whatcha tulkin 'bout ? me no understand ! ;)

Atuc Lana Sec Sec  :D

Did you read the book in spanish or english, sorry to ask again  :nervous:

In Spanish man, did you receive my PM?

My grand-father was studying in Germany and he supposedly was part of the free masons


EDIT: spelling..

Read "Angels and Demons" by Dan Brown and the book is based purely on illuminati. all answers r therex

dan brown is the britney spears of writers.
use his books instead of toilet paper :)

The Illuminati probably exists actually, and i say this with the most blas? tone of voice you could ever hear.

Most orders exist, most gandlodgias exist, i mean, my own family had a grand master in one of them ( not telling you which) and most times, people who are in it are idiots with dellusions of Grandeur and ideas of a past or a glory that are long gone.


BUT and this is dangerous :

Some do have enough friends and power into economics and else to actually really have the possibility to plan the future.


It doesn't take an Einstein to plan the next 50 years, it only takes profoundly stupid people to think it's not possible.

That's where, as citizens of the world, and don't underestimate that term, citizens of the world, you SHOULD care, investigate, be curious of where your money goes, how it goes there, with whom.

You should question :

What are their vices, what do they do for the world, what do they want for us, for them.

You should.

You should because if you don't care or only care about your own, don't forget the ones who come after us.

They deserve the best and we are the ones who can help them get just that.