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Title: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: badapple81 on October 29, 2005, 07:01:18 PM
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Zakk Wylde: "It is always the riff. That is the way I always love doing it best. I go into the stuio with nothing. When we did 'Mafia', I went into the studio with nothing, and eight days later, I had 23 songs. Bottom line is, this kinda sounds like ZEPPELIN, this kinda sounds like SABBATH, ELTON JOHN. It is just like there is no shortage of grat songs. With ZEPPELIN or SABBATH it is safe to say, it ain't gonna suck. We just have a good time when we go into the studio. We get loaded and tanked. We start jamming and having fun. This song came out really cool, and sometimes you say, this song really sucked. It is just like you can take a million different pictures. Like the famous picture of Jim Morrison. They probaly took a million pictures that day to get that one picture. It was a classic shot. For me, I don't understand how one band can be in the studio for six months working on one record. After a while, it is like Axl Rose and what he is doing with GUNS N' ROSES. It is like, just put the record out. If it bombs, it bombs. With VELVET REVOLVER, the guys go in, knock the thing out, if it succeeds, great, if it doesn't, what are you gonna do? Sit on it for ten years?! Everything I did with Ozzy, you are looking at 1991, when the record came out. If I didnt have an album come out since 1991 and now it is 2005, like 'Mama I'm Coming Home'. It is awesome songs, To me it is old, 'cause you always want to put out the new thing."


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: -Jack- on October 29, 2005, 07:08:38 PM
Appears as if Zakk wants CD as bad as the rest of us!


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: nesquick on October 29, 2005, 07:09:32 PM
He is right...


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: the dirt on October 29, 2005, 07:15:46 PM
That's why it never would've worked with Zakk, even if he replaced Slash outright. He would've never been able to handle the inactivity and no new music comming out.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Scabbie on October 29, 2005, 07:23:27 PM
Then again a strong character might have been exactly what Axl needed to release the album.

Zakks right, he could have had several albums under his belt now, and probably a genuine 'new gnr' greatest hits album (I think BLS has pretty much done that)


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: jabba2 on October 29, 2005, 08:48:59 PM
Zakk wanted to join GNR. In Zakk's words, Axl gave him the run-around and Zakk accused Axl of saying untrue things about him. Supposedly Zakk told Axl to leave a party they both attended. After the tryout there was alot of tension between them.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: conny on October 29, 2005, 09:01:40 PM
Zakk is a great musician, but his apporach (as much as I like it) is the very reason why he (and many others) will never write something like "Estranged".

I love how he appears to have a weak spot for GN'R, but he doesn't get what Axl is about, maybe that's why he isn't in GN'R? As a guitarist, he eats Finck for breakfast - but so does Slash, and look what he's doing in VR...


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: nesquick on October 29, 2005, 10:08:49 PM
Zakk is a straight pure metal-head, he wouldn't succeed to capture the subtility of Guns n' Roses, wich is NOT a "metal" band. I wouldn't see him play "Estranged" it's too subtil for him. It's too complexe music in term of feeling. It's too bluesy. GN'R is not all about hard-rock - it's more much complex, more diversified. I couldn't see him play "Madagascar" either. He is too brutal to be in GN'R as a musician, but he often right about the GN'R situation.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 29, 2005, 11:59:25 PM
Zakk is a straight pure metal-head, he wouldn't succeed to capture the subtility of Guns n' Roses, wich is NOT a "metal" band. I wouldn't see him play "Estranged" it's too subtil for him. It's too complexe music in term of feeling. It's too bluesy. GN'R is not all about hard-rock - it's more much complex, more diversified. I couldn't see him play "Madagascar" either. He is too brutal to be in GN'R as a musician, but he often right about the GN'R situation.

mmm nesquick, did you ever imagine, Robin Finck or Buckethead, playing, paradise city, sweet child o mine, november rain, or the other old gnr songs? Specially Finck, that came from NIN, a band that has nothing to do with the music GNR used to develope? Well they did it, some like it, some understand it, some think it's blasphemy. Anyway, if those strange guys were able to play those songs, I think Wylde, could have done it, without a problem.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: AxlisOld on October 30, 2005, 03:59:43 AM
I stand by my credo that Finck playing GnR is blasphemy, Zakk would own Finck and Fortus (though I do like Richard) but he is too much of a rocker to play in GnR. Ever think you'd hear someone say that? Zakk wouldn't like to be a hired Gun (pun intended) and take orders. Replace Dave Kushner from VR with Zakk...that is what I call a fucking supergroup. Oh! and replace Weiland with Bach....yeah


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Izzy on October 30, 2005, 04:58:33 AM
Judging from Zakks offerings - i think it wouldn't hurt for him to spend 10 years in a studio so he'd actually put out something worth hearing!

Mafia done in 8 days? No wonder its so uninspired.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Mikkamakka on October 30, 2005, 05:53:38 AM
Judging from Zakks offerings - i think it wouldn't hurt for him to spend 10 years in a studio so he'd actually put out something worth hearing!

Mafia done in 8 days? No wonder its so uninspired.

You have an opinion which is fine, but making (and horribile dictu releasing) albums is much better than making the 4th remake of SCOM and the 7th remix of IRS, not to mention that IMO Black Label's music is much better than what some people call 'perfection'. It's not brain surgery, it's rock 'n' roll. You can work on songs for a long time (I mean for months), but not for years. That's crazy and unproductive.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 30, 2005, 06:08:11 AM
I love zakk's attitude.. To bad he doesn't post here although he would be called a whiner :hihi:

just work on the album put it out and get the show on the road..


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Mikkamakka on October 30, 2005, 09:36:07 AM
I love zakk's attitude.. To bad he doesn't post here although he would be called a whiner :hihi:

just work on the album put it out and get the show on the road..

He'd be banned in a minute since he doesn't know anything about being political correct  :hihi:


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: jarmo on October 30, 2005, 10:47:55 AM
I love zakk's attitude.. To bad he doesn't post here although he would be called a whiner :hihi:

just work on the album put it out and get the show on the road..

He'd be banned in a minute since he doesn't know anything about being political correct? :hihi:


People who act like idiots get banned.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: MeanBone on October 30, 2005, 10:53:26 AM

Zakk is a straight pure metal-head, he wouldn't succeed to capture the subtility of Guns n' Roses, wich is NOT a "metal" band. I wouldn't see him play "Estranged" it's too subtil for him. It's too complexe music in term of feeling. It's too bluesy. GN'R is not all about hard-rock - it's more much complex, more diversified. I couldn't see him play "Madagascar" either. He is too brutal to be in GN'R as a musician, but he often right about the GN'R situation.

nesquick i don't think u know zakk wylde that well, cuz to label him as a metal head would prob be the biggest crap i've heard in a while.
have you heard his solo cds? like Pride and Glory? ( Blues and southern rock cds) or even the acoustic one man, one guitar cd Book of Shadows? there's a lot more than meets the eye with zakk, he is a musician capable of delievering the hardest riffs ever and the sweetest songs and melodies too, listen to his book of shadows cd, the lyrics his voice, and then u can speak with something more than a strong conviction for something he's not.
did you know zakk is primaraly a great piano player and guitar isn't his first intrument? he's a great songwriter and a great frontman, and a great singer, and his vocal range is not shown at all in BLS, that's just one side of a talented musician. and i believe he does get the gnr situation very well as u may say, but i also think he is more than capable to realize the complexity of every gn'r track more than you, cuz after all he is without a thought a better all around musician than many people will ever be.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: -Jack- on October 31, 2005, 12:41:16 AM
Judging from Zakks offerings - i think it wouldn't hurt for him to spend 10 years in a studio so he'd actually put out something worth hearing!

Mafia done in 8 days? No wonder its so uninspired.

You have an opinion which is fine, but making (and horribile dictu releasing) albums is much better than making the 4th remake of SCOM and the 7th remix of IRS, not to mention that IMO Black Label's music is much better than what some people call 'perfection'. It's not brain surgery, it's rock 'n' roll. You can work on songs for a long time (I mean for months), but not for years. That's crazy and unproductive.

The 7th remix of IRS will destroy anything by Zakk.  : ok:


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: jmapelian on November 01, 2005, 01:18:02 PM
I think Axl gave Zakk the runnaround because he has too strong of a personality though it was probably one of the worst mistakes he's made since alienating the original members


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: FlashFlood on November 01, 2005, 06:19:57 PM
anybody who knows anything about music knows that zakk wylde may be the most talented man in rock today and thats all im saying. he would fit in any band. he could cut his hair and shave his beard and be in a fucking boy band if he wanted to. and to anybody who says mafia sucks, please, never listen to music again.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: F*ck Fear on November 02, 2005, 01:11:14 AM
Anyone that thinks BLS or their last album Mafia sucks...Get your fucking ears checked.
Zakk's right,and I agree with him about 50% lol...The other 50 goes with the fact that I believe that when is all said and done the time spent on Chinese Democracy will be worth it.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: MadmanDan on November 02, 2005, 04:58:18 AM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 02, 2005, 12:31:50 PM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days

Some of the best albums were recorded in days or 1 or 2 weeks...


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: ppbebe on November 02, 2005, 01:17:37 PM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days

Some of the best albums were recorded in days or 1 or 2 weeks...

Therefore, spending 10 years in recording makes the best albums just like spending 8 days.

Extremes meet.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: MeanBone on November 02, 2005, 01:18:17 PM
there's not really a recipe for this or a standard solution. bottom line if a band can afford 10 years in the studio they will cuz no artist is 100% happy with what they did, if theres more time, more money, more people to be involved to better what they did, they will. everyone faces this problem in the studio, now most artists will compromise or settle for a standard to wich they are satisfied. Axl, being a perfeccionist with, what it seems, an amount of money so big to spend on this project, will not settle that easly. that's just my opinion. at this point whatever the hell he's trying i think is already Over Produced or whatever, but then again i haven't heard the thing. i'll trust his judgment, even though the wait is more than frustrating and honestly from one mans opinion i don't think he's doin any one a favour by takin so damn long. as zakk said, when it's done u realease it, if it bombs. so be it, at least u're puting out the music u just did, that's new and u want the world to listen...


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: -Jack- on November 02, 2005, 07:50:59 PM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days

Some of the best albums were recorded in days or 1 or 2 weeks...

GN'R Lies was recorded in one session correct? Im not positive.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Mikkamakka on November 03, 2005, 08:37:49 AM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days

Some of the best albums were recorded in days or 1 or 2 weeks...

Therefore, spending 10 years in recording makes the best albums just like spending 8 days.

Extremes meet.? :hihi:

I'm not sure about it, but it can happen. We can only hope.


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: PJ on November 03, 2005, 09:54:38 AM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days
axl havent spend 10 years only makin a record, he spent the ten years to reconstruct one of the biggest bands in the rock n roll, he spen years makin enough material to make the things rite... is not east to restart something so big... and is harder after evrything that happenned to axl


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 03, 2005, 12:46:31 PM
The truth is somwere in the middle..Spending 10 years making an album is just as ridicoulous as spending 8 days
axl havent spend 10 years only makin a record, he spent the ten years to reconstruct one of the biggest bands in the rock n roll, he spen years makin enough material to make the things rite... is not east to restart something so big... and is harder after evrything that happenned to axl

 Well man certainly what he is constructing is no longer Guns n Roses, even if it has the same name.... The Biggest live band in the world has died...


Title: Re: Another Zakk Wylde Axl and Velvet Revolver mention.
Post by: Voodoochild on November 03, 2005, 12:51:50 PM
Same ole... :drool: