Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I am as big if not bigger Gnr fan than the next person. And Im sure everyone knows that. But where is this ship sailing? Is the writing on the wall? I mean cmon. If in fact this GH is what it is, what does that say about the situation. From a realistic point of view

It tells me that the album we all have been waiting for is nowhere in sight. FOr whatever reason. And NOTHING can change that. And we the people, the support group, the fans who have been here for quite some time can say or basically do nothing about that.

2005 has come and gone. 2006 is upon us. If the GH is released in March that basically means Cd wouldnt be released until the Fall of 06.And you know what will happen from there. SO that brings us to 2007.And if it gets to that point,? How much longer can we expect the members of this band to stick around? How long can we expect them to "want" to do this and be emotionnally into it? Yea we might one day down the road get to hear Cd. But for many here, is that the way you want it to be? In a non band way? More like a forced legal issue type deal in some boxed set in like 15 yrs? Dont you want this band backing their efforts?

But anyways, for me personally its not looking too good the way things are panning out. We can hope for this and that. And have all these theories but this GH thing is bullshit. The last 1 was bullshit. This is just some more slaps across the face.

I love Axl and I love this band. But I just wish he would step up and deliver the goods.

I start to panic. that's Not in my habbits concerning GN'R. But I have a bad feeling. It doesn't smell good at all for me.
Either the GH 2 is a cover-up for CD, a hoax strategy of communication, or it's the end and members will leave.

PS: I have a bad "feeling" about the Tommy-Soul Asylum connection. Just an intuition. I wouldn't be surprised if...

Tommy said he was only doing the gig for a couple of shows, last I heard. the guy's gotta eat after all.

Can someone explain why GH2 could be an indicator of the band's imminent demise?

Not sure about imminent, but if the record company release GH2 then its because CD is nowhere in sight. I agree with another member who said it would be lunacy for a company to rehash old stuff if they had fresh, new material ready to go.

If CD is nowhere in sight, do you really think the band members will continue to associate themselves with Axl much longer?

Because if the label thought there was any prayer of CD being released within the next 6 months they wouldn't be releasing another greatest hits album.

As long as they are on the payroll, why would they officially leave the band? Only job in America you collect a monthly check to work on other people's projects or sit on your ass. Which ever you choose to do. Being in the band requires no committment, and they can keep getting paid. Tell me where any of them could find a better situation.

How ironic is it that we get the OLD songs over and over again, first Live Era and then two Greatest Hits packages :P Certainly doesn't look good, but then again I've been realistic about this process the whole time anyway; there's nothing I can do to affect what is being published, so all I can do is observe. I certainly don't expect CD to come out any time soon, but if it does, I'll be pleasantly surprised :)

I've considered Axl a pilot without a destination for quite some time, that description remains....

No offense guys, but when was the last good news? Or even the last update concerning the album? I am a huge fan as much as any of you, but I'm realistic too. To me nothing has been going since Dec. 5, 2002. Almost 3 years ago. That may have been (very) different if they showed up for RIR4 - Buckethead or not. I just keep my fingers crossed that 2006 will be the year.

It certainly seems that way.  But, just because we can't see the destination, doesn't mean that there isn't one in Axl's mind.  He may be taking an extremely long, maybe ludicrously convoluted, path to get there, but I believe that he knows what he wants.  He just doesn't care for any other schedule besides his own.

Ali

All im gonna say is this. It's very weird for a band with approx. 50 recorded songs to have around 30 of them on Greatest Hits compilations.

I take this to mean: A) Guns is pretty much done
                                B) CD is disguise

Younggunner, by no means is this an "I told you so" post, but it seems to me that you are starting to feel the way some of us 'negative posters' do.  It is almost a feeling of hopelessness.  Although you do not know what is going on, you just know that something is not right. 

Our posts are not 'Axl bashing posts' (at least mine anyways), but rather they all question what he is doing.  We all share your concerns about the band members leaving.  This is one of the main reasons why I want Axl to move forward as quickly as he can.  They will leave if nothing is produced.  I know a lot of people here say 'oh Axl will release when he is ready to release it, live your life', well guess what?  If Axl does take his time, there is a greater possibility of people leaving the band and the whole thing will fall apart. 

As far as the GH being a slap in the face, I am assuming you mean by the record company.  If that is the case, think about it through their point of view.  They have invested millions.  The first GH sold better than they expected.  I think this is the only fair way to push Axl to release the album while they earn on some of their 'investment'.  I can't think of any other way at this point to do it. 

So welcome to how 'we' feel buddy.  It is alright to question what he is doing right now, because it is looking grim at this point. 

Once the ship actually sets sail t's going all the way round the world , a couple times atleast! It wont be a fucking titanic next time , unlike the 2002 tour. Thats my predicition.  : ok:

I'm pretty much over it. I hope it comes out but my realistic expectations aren't really high at this point.

3 years with no word on whats going on can do that.

Kinda sad since Axl is one of the few artists left with immense talent who could realisticly have a great comeback & revitalize the music scene.

The ship has no rudder and is drifting aimlessly in uncharted waters.

In my opinion , the ship is still in the shipyard , being built. It hasnt set sail yet. But the grand voyage will be just that , grand!

Maybe Axl is waiting for Democracy to actually happen in China before releasing the album.

This latest thing about GH2 is starting to feel like the straw that broke the camel's back for me. ?I've been fairly positive over the years but I think younggunner really hit home about releasing CD with a band behind it. ?I want an opportunity to see the band again with them playing CD. ?So many times we say "all i care about is getting my hands on CD" when in all reality if we got that and the band was officially done, it wouldn't have as much satisfaction. ?

I was just thinking today what a messy situation GNR is right now, I mean they always are but there's just so many negative things going on right now. ?Lawsuits, record companies, bassist playing in one band, guitarist playing in another, no observation of Axl since December 5th, 2002, no written material since late March of 2004, Chris Pittman trying to find an extension chord so he can be plugged in next tour, etc.

My opinion:
* this is another greatest hits, no original material
* it will come out on said dates either in dec or mar
* axl will have between March 2006 til September 2006 to announce release date of CD
* if not we will be in this same position next year with release of Live Era 2 due Nov. 21st, (it's a Tuesday if anyone wants to check)
* if GH2 comes out in Dec., there's a chance for CD in '06, if it comes out in March, hello 2007

I was as optimistic as anyone else during 1998-2002. When Axl re-surfaced and lo and behold had such a kickass band behind him, I was ecstatic in an "I told you so" sort of way to the "non-believers". Most of us were.

Something happened in December 2002 and this ship lost its compass. It has been floating aimlessly ever since. I was still relatively hopefully in 2003 but come on, a year goes by and not one word? That is just plain weird.

Other things happened, of course. Buckethead left. Other members assured us the ship was still "on course".

However, IMO, the FIRST GH album was the straw. There is absolutely no way in hell they would've released this against Axl's wishes if there was a brilliant Chinese Democracy anywhere on the horizon. Axl released a letter that seemed to indicate ... something.

Not a single goddamn thing has happened since then that we know of. It will soon be THREE YEARS since Philadelphia.

This rumour just makes things look even more ridiculous. I just don't see any reason for optimism right now. I hope I'm wrong.

If I were a serious musician and serious about my music, I wouldn't just sit on my ass & work on other people's projects and collect a paycheck.  For me, this wouldn't be a good situation, at all.  I'd want to make music, record an album that would be released, and tour.  It's not all about money, all the time.  People have come and gone from this band, and I think there's a certain amount of frustration that nothing's going anywhere.  Yeah, it would be a great gig to be in GnR with Axl Rose, but after so long with nothing happening, I'd want to get out there and make something happen on my own. 


I agree.  I think Axl has immense talent and could have made a great comeback.  He is a musical genious.  But, yeah, this ship is drifiting aimlessly.

Maybe Axl never intended on releasing CD. THINK ABOUT IT why would the rest of the band be out doing there own projects? wouldn't a band thats pos to being droping this huge CD thing be rehursing? I mean I don't see shit happening. I've become alittle pissed off myself and if that how Axl and the band want people to feel there doing a great job!  :no: >:( :rant:

A band that plays together stays together, this band isn't realistily together at all. Who the fuck said CD was finished? And that it was being mixed, Oh thats a bunch of shit! If I was at Dizzy's show there would some shit happening!  vaction! That's it :drool:

Yeah, they would have surely spent those millions to the album, if that had been the plan!  :no:

Axl is crazy. No doubt. He has no direction. He has amazing ideas and then changes his mind, new concept, new great ideas, another lunatic period, scraps everything, new ideas... We don't know if the players still get paid since the record company stopped funding the project. I can hardly imagine someone who has some talent to sit on his ass for years just because he gets a lot of money, but in case there is no money for them and no album, no tour, then they'll leave. Right, except of Dizzy, but someone has to be there with Axl when he'll be 80 and find the ultimate direction of the band.

If the GH2 news are legit then I feel it's over. When the 2002 tour turned out to be a disaster I knew it'd be hard to come back. When BH left, I felt there'd be no more Nu-Guns N' Roses. With GH2 I'm afraid players will leave and what's even worse, the record company will sue or - if they really gave up on him - fire Axl. (It could be good if the company takes the rights and releases the material, but as I 'know' Axl, he'd rather die and kill everything they've recorded.)

It's unbelieavable that he's still interested in this project or even in music. He had been working on it for years and I think he just stopped. He had enough. It's only a theory but in the last 2 years I felt that the band members' 'bullshit' that CD'll come out and it'll be amazing was more of a support of Axl and a try to encourage him to come back to this world, fuckin' finish the album and release it than an info to the fans. Like Merck's '2005 will be the year of Guns N' Roses' promise... I doubt he meant GH2... He wanted Axl to come out of his cave and be the one he has to be: THE rockstar.

Such a shame that someone with such an brilliant talent ruins his career and limits himself to this 'mystic and lunatic genius' person who is unable to finish anything (but the shows and tours...).

I know I'll be bashed but in my hopes there is still a GN'R reunion. But I wake up and realize that with Axl nothing can be done and we won't have the magic again.

It doesn't look too good. I'm trying to remain as positive and hopeful as I can.

I take Mysteron's "it's talk and no action" comment as the record company are just leaking information about a possible GH release to force Axl's hand, without actual intention to do so? I haven't heard of any objection from Axl's team or on behalf of Slash or Duff. All very weird.

We haven't heard anything for quite some time  :nervous:

Dec. 5, 2002. ;)

Oh wait, there was that press release last year that said Buckethead left the band and the band cancelled RIR4.

It's funny, I read threads all the time complaining about lack of updates, and I kinda ignore them.. but now I wish Axl would just give us something small.. like "hang in there guys, it's on the way".. just to silence those who think it's all finished.

He did say last year he was hopeful it would come out within months. Things don't always go as planned. I personally would be extremely happy if the new album comes out (probably one of the best days in my life) but if it doesn't, I'll always be a GN'R fan anyway. I've been one for 14 years, and it's not gonna change anytime soon!

Things look bad, even by GNR standards - a second GH shows desperation, they wouldn't do that if CD was on the horizon

My shipped sailed in mid 2003. Falcon, I think Axl has plans-as evidenced by his three album rant in London and previous interviews. However, he just can't execute the plan. At least not in a normal timeframe. Here's to 2008-2009-2010! The three album three year opus will be released! Ahhh, fuck it, in reality, we will be lucky to get anything from him ever again. :-\

WHEN ALL I'VE GOT IS PRECIOUS TIME.

THEY ARE THE WORDS MR ROSE SANG ON HIS FAREWELL TOUR 02.

THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF RELEASE WITHIN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS ..GREATEST HITS ETC.

LE JEU SONT FAIT.

THANKS GNR FOR SLANE .

And the Source is? dub05.


No way in the hell!
I want to see the band together. >:(

the last round >:(        GH              CD :'(    contraband       Hollywood rose
next round                  GH2(?) /      CD ( :D?)        contraband2     rapid fire(?)             


Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you, mate.

Whatwas the reasoning behind releasing GH last year? Did we ever find out? Axl wasn't done recording or something? If that's the case then maybe buckethead's stuff is being redone now  :'(

You're right Younggunner, Something smells like shit around this whole story. And i don't like it. I truely do hope the GH2 moniker is a cover but. we sailed this ship in 2004. GH actually did come out.  :(

But.... you know what? If CD doesn't ever come out, it's not like we're missing anything. You can't miss something you've never had. ( :hihi: that sounds like the lyrics to  a cheesy Def Leppard song or something :nervous: ) All we can do is remain loyal and hope that someday CD is released. either that or forget about it and move on to other things

I think old troubledsome himself is watching and reading laughing at our crazy posts, saying to himself "Wow look what I can do, all my fans are mind fucked, even my band mates, now they know what its like to be me, oh well fuck'em" I'm gonna say this motherfucker has something up his sleeve. If were talking about where this ship is realistically sailing, I have to say I have no fucking idea, its be come a Pirate ship to the fans. Take from the fans, and give more money to Axl so he can pay the band to stick around alittle longer. Axl will get paid if they drop GH2 ($$$ royalitys$$$)
  A FUCKIN SHIPWRECK >:( :no:

 I will sail along on this PIRATE SHIP with Old Captain Axl   rrrrr Mate ;D 

Huh? did I miss something? ???

I think this ship has merely been coasting in unchartered waters since December 2002. I really have to say an announcement, or even the album's release felt a hell of alot closer to realization than it does now. But isnt that the cycle we've all endured? It comes so close but drifts away so far. I dont see this terminology used for Axl very often, but thinking back to my highschool days when we studied tragic heroes in English class, Axl continues tp fit the mold perfectly. If I remember, a tragic hero is a unique human being who has the intelligence and gifts to achieve and rise to greatness, but unfortunately his tragic flaw leads to his downfall. Im sure everyone has their own interpretation for Axl's tragic flaw, but to me its that his music aspirations and goals far exceed his boundaries and capabilities to the point where the timetable of this project grows day by day, yet Axl contunues to persue that masterpiece material that collects in the back of his mind, no matter how hard it will be to not just write but complete in its entirety.

If this GH2 bullshit is for real than I really wonder what the new bandmembers think about this. Like imagine the casual fan going to Tommy and being like "who do you play with?" "Right now Im in GNR." "Reeeeeaaally?? I loved the GH vol 1 and 2." Thats certainly a jagged little pill to swallow. I dont think the new bandmembers hold a grudge to the popularity of old GnR but they truly want to distance themselves from the legacy and create from the ground up their own personal legacy. Whether members will leave as a result of this album remains to be seen, as does if CD is no where in sight, will someone leave aswelll?

For now, lets just hope there isnt a mutiny of Captain Axl on his very much flawed ship :D

Oh shit that was good! Your right about the New Guys in the band, for the record company to put out GH2 is like kicking those guys in the balls.  Axl's just sitting there letting the record company beat the shit out of his boys, thats fucked up. Axl if you need help let us fans know what we need to do.   

Like what?

Another "boycot Greatest Hits (2)" thread/petition...

 ::)

I wouldn't know! maybe email address or phone no. raido stations etc.. we gotta be creative..

Fuck no, not another petition. But dirt, if us the fans as one presented a huge disatisfaction with GH2 out made a spectacle online, or in the real world about this album, it really could speak to Geffen who are behind all of this. All it could take is a united front that says in no certain terms: "Geffen this album is a fucking shame, if you think we've been waiting all these years to be bitchslapped yet again by your greed your fucking dead wrong. The only way any of us will buy your shitty GH album is if we need drink coasters. Give us CD or give us nothing"........well maybe not nothing...a live DVD in 5.1 is what im hoping for in the meantime.

Finally.. That was the answer I was looking for..

The problem is not what is happening or not happening.

The problem is the lack of communication.

That's what pisses people off and make them leave what they think is a sinking ship.

AND THE BAND KNOWS THAT!!!

And that's the one thing that really pisses me off, too - the one thing I just don't understand. To a certain point, it's got that mystique factor about it (the silence and all), but by now it's just one big slap in the face of the fans.

Good point Conny, I've always found Axl an intriguing character but the mystique factor concerning the album has definately worn off to a great degree.  It's to the point of release the damn thing already and let's see if he's got the creative wherewithall to justify the time
it took to make the thing.

Same here.  the mysticism of Axl Rose for a long time has been in his favor.  But now it seems that it's become a punchline which is a shame.  If this album was released 2 or 3 years ago, he could of been pegged as the savior of rock and roll.  Every year we don't get CD, the less likely that will happen.

i just wrote an essay about that.

There is some really honest posts in this thread. No sugarcoating here! :hihi: I've noticed that more people are looking at CD in a more realistic way. Even people who always put me down for being realistic are starting to feel the same way. In the beginning,the wait was kinda cool. Then it became mysterious. Then it became a pop culture joke and was kinda funny. Now its just pathetic. I think the only thing holding the wait together is the bond we have with each other at these forums. I've thought of "moving on" and forgetting about this whole thing, but I enjoy talking to you guys about this whole thing, and it helps ease the frustrations a little bit. Do you guys ever feel that way?

yea.  i dunno.  i believe we'll see it soon.  but all these rumors about sanutuary selling out and GH2 sure aren't making things better

I've had faith in Axl for years, so I'm not going to stop now. I can't help but feel a little downbeat about it all at the moment though. I had hoped that the recent lack of news was the calm before the storm, but now I don't really know what to think.

I mean I know where legalities are concerned, you can't give out too much info, but if the hold ups were for legal reasons, surely it's okay to say "the album is just awaiting conclusion of some legal issues".. especially at a time Axl is copping so much and many of the fans seem to be losing a little of their faith. That's why I don't believe the hold up is due to legal issues. The record company know how much they could make out of this, they would do everything they could to ensure this is released.

He missed his opportunity after the RIO gig, when people were interested. Even after the sub-par performance at the MTV thing (madagascar was still good) he had a big opportunity.

The one thing I think of when I think of Axl is: what a waste.

I'm sure he has some kind of "plan" on releasing it. But he has absoloutely no momentum to take it anywhere. He actually shot himself in the foot and has to overcome the debacle of 2002 to make this album a success.

The least he could do, even for himself, is to release a single, maybe an album, or something on his website to generate interest. Even among the fans.

 

Yeah, it's the "anonymous GN'R fans" self-aid group.

"Hello, my name is Conny, and I'm a GN'R fan."   :crying:


 :beer:

nice point James

Ive noticed the same and have been ready to give up entirely quite recently
its the debates and discussions here that keep it interesting and it's notable that even some opf Axls staunchest supporters seem to be taking quite a realistic view of it now

Ive been saying it for a while now - it seems such a shame that such a great talent has squandered what should have been the best years of his career in seclusion

Realistically speaking, does one really know?  ;D

I think Axl is feeding him quite well..  ;)

No.. sorry James.. im not homosexual.. and I don't look for security and friends on a GN'R forum. Haha! Jk bro. I totally understand. Even though I haven't been here a fourth an 8th as long as you I've already felt like giving up on the album.. but what eles would I do online? Haha. ?You guys are mi amigos! Its fun to see everyones online persona and what they have to offer to the forum.

And how can you really "give up"? If I said "I give up".. and I saw C.D. at Walmart the next year.. wouldn't I buy it in a flat second? Sometimes im frustrated by lack of news.. but everyday is a day closer to knowing the truth. Maybe it won't come out.. and we wont hear the albums story till 2020.. but at least im a day closer. Im not giving up anything to wait.

Peace.

    -jack

Hey there youngunner! Thats a pretty bold statement saying that you are as big or a bigger fan than the next person! I personally enjoy reading your posts, but this one seems that you be lacking the faith my man! Come on keep the faith just that little bit longer! We are going to be getting the album very soon! And I dont mean this nonsense about a Greatest Hits 2. I still thats a cover up! I know you are getting desperate to hear this baby at last, we all are! But dont cross to the dark side of all the negative people, when you have been waiting this long! It wont belong and we will all be celebrating with a beer listening to Chinese Democracy! Mike  :beer:

why say keep the faith like this is religion..?/ Eventually there comes a time when you really have yto look at everything and make an analasis..  From 2000 intensions to CD these things have had talks since 99 and before, 2005 has just about passed.. Axl has been all but dead since the tour ended and that was dec 2002.. Another month and a few weeks it will be three years and his comment about rio is getting quite old too..

As much as I have waited and wanted cd to come out or the announcement of a new tour to happen it just doesn't.. No one is even acting like it will. You certainly can't go by the band members because they have been saying somewhat positive stuff for years. Maybe reassuring themselves keeps them sane?

The longer axl takes the less likely he is to just switch his style and do a big tour and drop albums..

Thats up to you Mike! Its your life! I just think people should stay positive because I personally believe we are very very close now! But each to their own! I think its better to stay positive than get all pissed about it which a lot of people do!

"I think the only thing holding the wait together is the bond we have with each other at these forums. I've thought of "moving on" and forgetting about this whole thing, but I enjoy talking to you guys about this whole thing, and it helps ease the frustrations a little bit. Do you guys ever feel that way?"

Many times in "real-life" all people got is this thing called hope. Shouldn't that be more than enough for a musical band? Regardless of whether or not we ever get to hear any new music?


You all are so dramatic sometimes. What's that thing John Lennon once said?


"It's just a band."

there is nothing wrong with being positive or having a good feeling about something that you want to happen so bad.. I am a pretty positive guy in other asspects outside of this album.. usually when one is being positive it's because some factual evidence is out there pointing towards what you believe in..  Of course we can say well cd was almost done or whatever 3 or 6 years ago so common sence tells you each day that goes by means it should drop any day.. Being superfans with such a vested interest in a product or axl can cloud ones mind from what is really going on to what you want to believe is going on.. It's like they guy who wears the same t shirt when his team plays for a hat backwards for a rally.. I think there is no evidence that shows anything ias happening.. A project this big and expected would have such hype well before the thing should happen..

As I said there is nothing wrong with being optomitic becasuse the odds should fall in your favor the longer you wait.. Wether it comes out by axl,  he gets sued, someone quits, or someone forces it out something is bound to happen. The only positive thing I had heard was when merck said 2005 is gnr's year.. That's statement has about two months left to be credible..

remember me dude?

Good point Mike. : ok: I have always considered myself an optimistic pessimist. Or maybe a pessimistic optimist. :hihi: 

Yeah I do, you're the guy who said "Who cares" when I told you we don't allow any graphics in our signatures.

I guess you're talking to Mike and asking him if he remembers you from some other board. That kind of questions should be handled by PMs.

But I don't expect you to be here that long.




/jarmo

goody gum drops, why dont you expect me to be here long?

Because you couldn't live with the "no graphical signatures" rule.  : ok:




/jarmo

See, this stuff is great, its drama, you tell'em Jarmo Kick his ass ;D   

Who are you a guest of?  Did you sneak past the doorman? :hihi:

i'm back though aint i, i only wanted to change my username, : ok:

Oh, ok...

Just so you know, I'm still on a "power trip".  : ok:



/jarmo

I've got a first class suite on this cruise ship and just incase we don't get anything, then I'll just run to my lifeboat. ;D

everyone knows that anyway,  ;D

No, the right phrasing would be: Everyone who thinks they know.  : ok:

I see you deleted yourself again. Not happy with your avatar this time?




/jarmo

Bloody hell who let the village idiot in? What a muppet!

From a realistic point of view, this 'GH2' can't be what it is, IMO.
it's stated hearsay and supposed to alter.  it doesn't alter what CD is.
Maybe CD doesn't even have direct bearing on this one.

anyways, Back to the topic...... It's about sailing innit?
Find which way the wind blows.
see how adverse winds are blowing in.  :no:

mentalradio, I agree.
the drama queens fan the breeze at each news, swinging their mind hither and thither.
now in the mood for some historic tragedy :rofl: Boohoo? what next!

the quarter-decks know where is this ship sailing.
wherever it may, a ship needs the wind that blows her good for sailing through it.
A stiff positive wind will do much. like estranged 33 Yes I think the wind of CD is rising.

AMEN TO THAT!!! : ok:

Shows how damn good gnr is.. lol. all their songs are greatest hits!

Holy crap younggunner, it's guys like you and dave-gnr2k that occasionally make me think CD might actually come out one day. At least in my sentimental moments. Now this?! If Dave starts a thread like this I'll know (a) it's over, or (b) CD is coming out in weeks! Axl should be slapped for disrespecting fans like you guys. Myself, he lost my undivided attention in Philly and the following spring.

Haha I never said I was jumping ship. My point of the post was more in regards to the band aspect of gnr. Although the reason Im here and believe what I believe is because of Axl, I have also become a huge fan of the players in the band. SO for me, its not just an Axl album. I wanna hear the new members as well and how Axl fits with them. Its not just an Axl thing.

The thread is really about the idea of maybe time is running out with the members. How long will they hang in there? Who knows, but as time goes by the chances become slim. Some of you{haters and even fans} are saying who cares, I just want the album, others want this to be a more of a band thing then just an Axl thing.

I know that we will hear the album one day. And I know it has the chance to be one of the greatest albums ever heard. I know that Axl will make many of you peopl here look foolish in regards to his musical abilities. I just want him to have a band when he rocks the world.