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to be honest,im not really sure what to expect myself.when i try to imagine CDs sound i seem to think its gonna be well away from appetittes sound but somewhere inbetween classic rock ballads and modern rock,but i think it will be a type of modern rock thats not really been done before (if that makes any sense  ::)).im hopeing for a couple of november rain style songs (the blues included) and something that can make the hairs on my kneck stand up when i play it really loud like WTTJ intro.also what packaging would you find cool?perhaps a poster of the new and hopefully final GNR band and a short story from each member in the traditional booklet. 

songs.

A classic album

anything but a digipak

cmon guys,be a bit more specific.if your not interested then post somewhere else

Fair enough.

I expect 5 or so rockers, with ample places for Fortus to let rip. A couple mid tempo almost bluesy numbers. A fair few ballads, epic sounding masterpieces and maybe room for a more industrial sounding song. Something in the vein of Silkworms yet with more depth to it.

why are you expecting a fair few ballads and only one industrial sounding song?

After seeing the reaction to Silkworms/Oh My God compared to reactions for Madagascar and The Blues. Also ballads are Axl's forte

is there such thing as an industrial sounding ballad.i think that would suit the new line up.also we aint heard a final cut of silkworms yet so i couldnt really judge it 100%.what im sayin is the accoustic version of november rain didnt sound nuthin like the final cut so... :beer:

I think a couple songs on "With Teeth" might crack into that genre  :hihi:

NIN  :hihi: i agree.

I think CD is going to be a great cd. ?I think it will be better then anything released in the last 10 years. ?However, I also think it will get unfairly slammed by the media and anti-axl people, because it will be immediately compared to AFD, which is unfair. ?Because one, it is a different version of Guns n Roses. ?While Slash, Duff, and Sorum get praised for being creative, in a decent band, Axl will get slammed for trying to re-create GnR, ?it wont have a 1987 GnR sound, it will have a "hopeful" 2005 sound. ?Second, VR gets praised for being a good modern rock band, granted Slither was a good song, all the other songs sound the same, if you look at just the new GnR songs CD, The Blues, Madagascar, OMG, even Rhiad and Silkworms, they are all original and have their own unique, distinctive sound. ?But since they are named under Guns n Roses, they will be compared to AFD, and the media will say there is no SCOM, PC, or WTTJ on CD. ?Then it will be compared to Contraband, even though CD will sound better then Contraband. ?VR will still get praise for being an original band. ?So I personally think CD will be great, but due to the media's negative perception of Axl, the album will get slammed. ?If the album is bad, they will say Axl is washed up. And if it sells millions of copies, the media will say its just a case of nostaglia and its the GnR name thats making it sell. ?

soz but i dont agree with you there.personnaly i believe the press need this album.with all the shite in the music industry today even if CD isnt anything like appetitte,i think it will still shine and be a fresh of breath air for the industry.bands come and go nowadays but for someone like axl who made a big impression in the industry before,as long as CD is good,then i dont think it will be compared to appetite.but maybe if CD was released around 1999-2000 then i think it would have been compared to past GNR albums but its been a fair few years since illusions and longer since appetite.i agree with you about VR songs being all quite similar but im still a big fan of theres.as for originality,each new song that we have heard (NEW GNR)could almost give an album its own sound,what im sayin is its like axl picked a few very different songs to introduce to us to see which got the better reaction.  :beer:

I think oldGNRisrealGNR's user name explains his opinion quite well. How bout you go over to the Wasn't Yesterday Great? section and spare us your "The new GN'R isn't even GN'R" rant.

I think that GN'R's new record is gonna sound very modern rock. Good modern rock. But modern rock none the less. Axl isn't trying to cash in on the old line-ups classic sound *cough*VR*cough*.. and I think were all gonna be surprised with the newness he presents.

So.. I expect.. some awesome stuff. (.. or.. never getting the album at all)

Hopefully not 10 different versions of the same album like VR did...

I hope a Classic album. No fillers. just 12 or 15 Classic songs. THE BEST they have.

A mix between aggressive rockers (jungle, paradise city, nightrain, civil war, you could be mine) , monster epic ballads (nov rain, estranged), mid-tempo pop/rock songs (yesterdays, kohd, sweet child), bluesy songs (14 years, breakdown) maybe an accoustic one (patience, used to love her), a lot of piano, maybe harmonica also,? and...amazing guitar riffs and solos. I especially want to hear Richard Fortus' contribution on the record, rythm, lead, everything, because I think he is in the same vain of Slash and Izzy. I want to hear if they do justice to the old band on guitars. I also want to hear new sounds, but not indus or industrial or shredd or anything like that. I don't want to hear a weirdo fusion ultra-futurist/electronic album . Overall, I want it to be a Classic-Rock record, with a modern touch.

If "Chinese Democracy" is the "Achtung Baby" of GN'R, I would be very satisfied.

What am i expecting?....more delays

On the up side im expecting a great album...
On the down side maybe the songs will sound over worked on and the album as a whole may sound bity (having taken over 10 years to make).
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What with the Blues and Madagascar atleast there will be 2 good songs on the CD for sure :)

Note: On Madagascar, the section just over half-way through where all the speaking takes place. Most of the sampled sounds taken from news footage (i'm guessing) sound ok, although there is one sample that sounds really poor, the white noise is a joke. Maybe they'll fixed before release. Maybe they've tried already, it's not easy removing white noise from poor soure material.

What am I expecting...not your father's Guns N' Roses...

...but that's not a bad thing. Let me explain.

I am expecting this album to truly go in a different direction than anything the band (I guess I should say Axl) has released. While I feel we will see a few gritty, down-and-out rock songs (ala It's So Easy, Nightrain, etc.) I do NOT think these tracks will be what catches the most attention on the album. If the title track and I.R.S. are any judge (which I believe to be an par with tracks like Out Ta Get Me and YCBM), this album seems to have put it's concentration elsewhere while still delivering some of that good ol' fashion rock. I believe we will see some ballads (maybe more than the usual one or two) but the ballads won't single handedly carry the album in the commercial sense (as I feel Don't Cry and November Rain did with UYI I...from a commercial standpoint, that is). I believe 'This I Love' will be the ballad to go the way of NR.

What I do expect to be the driving force of this album are songs that are epic in tone, layered with a mixture of complexities as well as simple melodies,  all meshed together and give us 5 - 7 songs that are 'unlike' anything we've ever heard.

I give you Madagascar as an example. While I still hear traces of Led Zepplin's 'All of My Love' in this one (which is NOT a bad thing), this song has a feel unlike any other GN'R tune. It has that epic tone as the song builds from a subdued beginning to a larger than life last chorus. Epic in tone, but simplistic musically...something GN'R hasn't really conjured up in this fashion (Estranged and Coma having a similar feel, but far more complex musically).

Along with tracks like Madagascar, I am expecting more intricate songs of the epic nature (ala Coma). If I had to guess based on what little we know, the Beltrami tracks could go in this direction.

Despite things that have been said in the past, I truly doubt we will see many (or any) industrial-like tune (ala 'Oh My God'). I think from the fact that Axl was experimenting with this type of music we can infer that he was tired of making an album that was going to sound like past efforts. This is a new Guns N' Roses and he above all knows that. It would be contrived and almost fraudulant to even try to duplicate past efforts. It seems that Axl was interested in expanding GN'Rs sounds even before the original band fell apart and now is his chance to do just that. Take hold of the reigns, create something fresh and new and try to satiate the 'old fans' as well as entice new ones.

All in all, I am expecting CD to have 4 - 5 rockers, 3 - 4 ballads and 6 or more tracks that are epic in feel and completely unique musically (and perhaps even lyrically). It is these epics that will drive the album despite some great rockers and surely some wonderful ballads.

Chinese Democracy will be all about the epic...not necessarily the epic ballad.

That's just my take  ;)

I think the album is gonna sound alot like CD, IRS, Madagascar, OMG, Rhyad. (to me these 5 songs have the same type of 'vibe' and I think that they will define the sound of Chinese Democracy)

I think The Blues is great, but, to me, sounds out of place with those 5 songs. and to me belongs with the UYI era stuff and if blues makes the album, well, it just my opinion, but, I don't think it will 'fit'

Axl on Vocals! And Robin solos

to be late

Dinosaur rock. ;D

Yay! I agree that the wicked vibe common with  the songs, save for Madagascar which tune, I donno why but, reminds me of a Rocky's theme or a George Michael song, will define the sound of Chinese Democracy.
I guess that the very vibe attracts me to the band. And the vibe is of one touch with the groove of the giants classics of around 1970, at dawn of hard rock. By restraining the self-indulgence and adding the intense,  GN'R made it accessibly up-to-date.
And I assume those songs are only the introduction to what is coming. :love: pound pound!


Ditto. When I hear the word of 'epic', I don't think of ballad. I think of the mega hard epics drag on even for 20 mins like those of Can or King Crimson.

How much time do people spend thinking about this?
You can keep thinking "What if" "What if" "What if"

But you can keep thinking and thinking about what its going to be like...
Or just enjoy the music thats actually being made.
Because no one here knows more than anyone else about the CD. So I dont see the point in all of these "What's it going to be like... What are Axls plans... What songs will be played...."

A good full CD of classic rock, with Axl Rose on vocals

 : ok:

I'd like to hear an album in the vain of Radio KDST tracklist on GTA-San Andreas...the tracklist of this radiostation fucking Rocks! :D

that's the one that axl is the dj on, right?  or is it the alternative one with the grunge+ozzy+gn'r on it?

i believe chinese democracy will be amazering

the blues will eventually fit in after hearing TWAT and this i love. 

chinese democracy will be much more aggressive than the live versions, and hopefully a bit longer with a better solo.

it'll have mabye one or two abstract songs (see: you ain't the first or my world) but it won't be as extreme and they'll be written better.

but as axl wants, it will blow AFD outta the water, in the fans' minds.  the media will be fags and rate it as .5 like they did for the weezer cd.  (which was good, i think)

peace

I think that it would be a great help to the overall global economy because of their sheer buying power.  It may also help erase our incredible trade deficit.  It could only be positive for the region and the world because we can't police the whole globe ourselves.  Conersely, oh wait a minute!  You mean the album.  I don't expect much because it probably won't happen.  We will have actual democracy in China before we have this album. 

the one where Axl is a DJ, with songs like "a horse with no name" "barracuda", "slow ride", "hold the line" another one from Bowie,? etc... just Classic-Rock music. It sounds HUGE. It's a dream tracklist.
Concerning Radio X alternative tracklist, exept WTTJ? "personal jesus" and "killing in the name of", I hate this radiostation. It sounds Metal and noisy and I hate Metal. I'm a Rocker, not a metal-head. I always put the Classic-Rock radiostation (the Axl's one) when I play the game. Bounce FM is also cool with good old 70's funk/disco songs.

an actual release

listen,we,ve had enough wise cracks and poeple sayin what if what if.this is a place to discuss things and talk gnr,why is there always some arsehole gotta but in and try to put down a quite sensible topic.these are the poeple who start threads like VR vs GNR.IF YOUR FRUSTRATED ABOUT CHINESE DEMOCRACY TAKING SO LONG THEN KICK THE DOG OR GO THE THE FRUSTRATION THREAD.you would moan if axl put out an album that didnt sound finnished

Im expecting a double cd, or maybe two releases like UYI, Maybe even something with CD and a bonus dvd of the making of CD. That would be cool. At this point though id just settle for a 6 song ep.