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Title: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 13, 2005, 05:58:05 PM
It's been all but confirmed that the new James Bond will be Daniel Craig http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0185819/bio The Newspaper headlines for tomorrow are going with that anyway....

So what does everybody think? Anyone really know much about this actor? Have they seen any of his stuff?

I don't know why they got rid of Pierce Brosnan :no: Now i haven't been to keen on many of his Bond films (I only enjoyed Goldeneye/Die Another Day) but i blame that on the scripts...the fact that they stopped using the books i think he played the role well, the films just became like too many modern films, all special effects and bugger all real entertainment and story (ok stories in others were ropey sometimes but we weren't playguedwith set-piece after set-piece).

Now i hope Casino Royale which is pretty much a brand new film - NOT a remake (that shite spoof doesn't even deserve the slightest recognition) has the old school feel of Bond films of the past, has a decent bad guy and a woman who doesn't get as involved as Halle Berry did in the last although if i remember correctly she's gonna be in this isn't she?.....Ahhh Nuts :rant:



Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Izzy on October 13, 2005, 06:09:56 PM
I have no idea who that guy is - the studio is fairly good at casting completely inapropriate people as Bond :nervous:

After the last few Bond films i don't think i care anymore about the series...its all been done, it just looks tired now


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 13, 2005, 06:25:40 PM
After the last few Bond films i don't think i care anymore about the series...its all been done, it just looks tired now
I have lost interest but i am hoping that a new guy may signal a return to decent films, probably not but i can but hope..


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 13, 2005, 07:28:23 PM
He is to Bond films what Gary Cherone was to Van Halen.  :hihi:

I just can't see him as 007.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Evolution on October 13, 2005, 07:39:07 PM
I don't think anyone will surpass Connery. I think Ewan MacGregor may have been a better choice.

After seeing 4 Brothers at the cinema how about Mark Wahlberg? He would be alright i think


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: AdZ on October 13, 2005, 08:08:25 PM
He's not british so he can fuck right off.


Daniel Craig's good, he was ace in Layercake.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: journey on October 13, 2005, 08:19:00 PM
Jude Law would be great for the role, but I guess he's too big of a star right now.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Evolution on October 13, 2005, 08:20:30 PM
He's not british so he can fuck right off.


Daniel Craig's good, he was ace in Layercake.

THATS Daniel Craig?? Hmm..................not so sure i agree with that choice


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Buddy J.B. on October 13, 2005, 09:25:50 PM
My favorite Bond is "The World is not enough." I can only watch those flicks once in a great while . They seem to be one of the very few movie series that gets away with copying off of each other. They're all the same, bond falls in love with an evil woman and a good woman, then he battles the villian threatening to conquer the world, The only difference is with each sequel, it takes place in a different country.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 13, 2005, 09:36:44 PM
I don't think anyone will surpass Connery. I think Ewan MacGregor may have been a better choice.

After seeing 4 Brothers at the cinema how about Mark Wahlberg? He would be alright i think

Ewan McGregor would make a great 007.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Ignatius on October 14, 2005, 10:49:01 AM


I'm not too crazy about Craig. Wasn't he in the first Tomb Raider movie?

I didn't mind Pierce Brosman. I don't know if any of you remembered him from Tv series Remington Steele, he's had a decent career thanx to Bond anyway.

I'd gone with Ewan Macgregor. Hugh Jackman would've been cool (but he ain't british).


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 14, 2005, 12:13:26 PM
Ahhh Fuck them all! Bring back Roger Moore, put in him a wheelchair and have 007: OAP, imagine the gadgets you could put on it, a few rockets, jet pack so it could fly, wheels could flip over so it could go on water....oh...the possiblities...well it would be better than the crap they wheel out now :P

Legend!
(http://www.henshaws.org.uk/Shared_ASP_Files/UploadedFiles/%7B24820659-BE99-46E6-89A5-268E0F065DA1%7D_moore.jpg)


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: babydolls on October 14, 2005, 12:14:10 PM
I agree Mr. Kennedy and Izzy. ?I drunkenly swore I'd never watch another Bond after Die another die. ?the very very first movie I ever saw was Diamonds are Forever and I totally grew up on a diet of Bond (I am Scottish and very pro-Sean!).

not really interested in what they try and do now - the golden years of Bond are over - it's too glossy and polished now and almost a pastiche on what it once was...

*rant*

and daniel craig arrived to the press announcement on a boat - gripping onto it like he was gonna sh*t his pants - really cool. (sarcasm). ?i dont reackon it bodes well.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 14, 2005, 12:29:05 PM
I agree Mr. Kennedy and Izzy. ?I drunkenly swore I'd never watch another Bond after Die another die. ?the very very first movie I ever saw was Diamonds are Forever and I totally grew up on a diet of Bond (I am Scottish and very pro-Sean!).

not really interested in what they try and do now - the golden years of Bond are over - it's too glossy and polished now and almost a pastiche on what it once was...

*rant*

and daniel craig arrived to the press announcement on a boat - gripping onto it like he was gonna sh*t his pants - really cool. (sarcasm). ?i dont reackon it bodes well.
Yeah Sean Connery was the man he may of been a womanising sod picking up the damzle in distress but that was him, they're changing it too much with this strong intelligent woman thing with Halle BerryConnery was Bond.  Many people say Roger Moore was too cheesy in the role, now i'll admit he wasn't as good and Moonraker was one of the worst films ever but i still liked him he was to the Bond role what Sammy Hagar was to Van Halen, a decent enough replacement.  Lazenby sucked! Although On Her Majesty's Secret Service the film he was in was damn good, he was the weak link, i would love to see that remade with a decent lead cos it was a really good film.  I remember reading when he got the role he was a model not an actor and they realised he wasn't great and needed a decent film so they gave him one of the stronger books, i guess that explains why the film is decent it's just him that sucks, what puzzles me is if they realised he wasn't all that great why the hell did they use him.  Timothy Dalton i felt was underated he brought a whole new side to Bond and the stories were real good and thought they made the kind of modern transition needed.  Pierce Brosnan was quite decent in the role but like you said it's too polished now...way too flashy it annoys me so much to see such a good thing go to waste and what's with all the shit themes now? That last one with Madonna :puke: that sucked so badly last decent one was License To Kill :yes: As for Daniel Craig, don't know him so i can't knock him, i'm more worried about the film than the guy playing Bond, it's the films which are going downhill.

Fun Bond Fact: Roger Moore's daughter has a cameo in Die Another Day

Uk Viewers: Roger Moore, ITV, Monday, 5.00pm on The Paul O'Grady Show


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Evolution on October 14, 2005, 02:17:03 PM
and daniel craig arrived to the press announcement on a boat - gripping onto it like he was gonna sh*t his pants - really cool. (sarcasm).  i dont reackon it bodes well.

Thanks for that, funniest post i've read all day ;)


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Axls Locomotive on October 14, 2005, 02:30:19 PM
The original bond movies were far more realistic and while bond had only a few small gadgets in the originals, the recent movies seemed to have an arsenal of weapons...i thought that it was getting a bit much.  Yea obviously it has become more slick and the scripts have similar structures and thats where the problem lies, not willing to take a chance to be different like the original movies.  Too many explosions and crap like that and not enough story.  Its great they are taking the gadgets out of the new movie and relying more on the plot. Also the bad guys in the first movies are all memorable yet when i try to think of any of the recent bad guys i cant think of one of them even though ive seen the movies a number of times.  We need a bad guy thats larger than life imo

But saying that I like most of the movies and Sean Connery was the best bond.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Buddy J.B. on October 14, 2005, 02:41:24 PM
How about Mike Myers?? :rofl:


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 14, 2005, 02:54:06 PM
Also the bad guys in the first movies are all memorable yet when i try to think of any of the recent bad guys i cant think of one of them even though ive seen the movies a number of times.
Best 'recent' ones were Sean Bean as Alec Trevelyan in Goldeneye & Christopher Walken as Max Zorin in A View To A Kill. They were in 1995 & 1985 as well....not exactly recent...


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: grendood on October 14, 2005, 03:05:54 PM
go watch layer cake to see how awesome daniel craig is.

nuff said.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Timothy on October 14, 2005, 04:07:46 PM




daniel craigwas very good in Layer Cake. but i don't know if he is going to be able to pull off bons.


Though I think it is a bit weried that the replaced Brosman,considering he was the most secsfull band ever .as fair a box office goes.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Buddy J.B. on October 14, 2005, 05:15:26 PM
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1047099/royale1.jpg)
He looks original for the part if you ask me, doesn't look like a bond-wannabe.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Izzy on October 14, 2005, 05:37:16 PM
Hey, Stoned nice to see another person who appreciates Timothy Dalton and Licence to Kill

Personally my fav Bond was Pierce Brosnan and fav film Goldeneye - i though they got everything right with that one, amazing sequences, great Bond and villian, intresting plot and those women :drool:

Very close second Timothy Dalton and both of his superb films - loved the darker side.

Never been a fan of Sean Connery's films, though he was an excellent Bond, the films seem rather dated now and while they have a retro appeal it feels very much like ur watching films from a different era, and an era i never knew

Lazenby and On her majesty's secret service are horrendous - after 22 years of trying to actually finish OHMSS i am yet to achieve it (i'm damn close!) Awful in every way -Sean Connery couldn't have saved that - hell i'm not sure Jesus could inject any life into it!

Roger Moore did a fine job and while Live and let die and The Mna with the Golden Gun are IMHO travesties the rest were good>great - For your eyes only being my fav

As a general rule the newer they get the more i like them -with the exceptions being The World is not Enough and Die another Day which are all effects and no substance - hell both were just stupid most of the time - laser factories? Invisible cars? Wtf?

Top 5

1.Goldeneye (as above)
2.Licence to kill (so dark - great villian and the tanker sequnce is probably my fav Bond moment)
3.The living daylights (gotta love that car)
4.For your eyes only (so many great sequnces - the subs, the VW chase - genius stuff)
5.A View to a kill (Walkern is superb)

(awesome theme songs in each case)

worst (worst first...)

1.Diamonds are forever (ye gods - those ''effects'' - do u think they spent a fiver on them?)
2.From Russia with love (tedious - some action...please!)
3.Live and let die (when u have a 20 min boat chase u know they are compensating for something!)
4.Dr No (just so average)
5.The Man with the golden gun (loads of production probs - and it shows)

As for this new chap playing bond (he looks like he's in his late 50's :nervous:) - i'll wait and see, but i hold out no real hope....


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 14, 2005, 07:32:58 PM
Hey, Stoned nice to see another person who appreciates Timothy Dalton and Licence to Kill

Personally my fav Bond was Pierce Brosnan and fav film Goldeneye - i though they got everything right with that one, amazing sequences, great Bond and villian, intresting plot and those women :drool:

Very close second Timothy Dalton and both of his superb films - loved the darker side.

Never been a fan of Sean Connery's films, though he was an excellent Bond, the films seem rather dated now and while they have a retro appeal it feels very much like ur watching films from a different era, and an era i never knew

Lazenby and On her majesty's secret service are horrendous - after 22 years of trying to actually finish OHMSS i am yet to achieve it (i'm damn close!) Awful in every way -Sean Connery couldn't have saved that - hell i'm not sure Jesus could inject any life into it!

Roger Moore did a fine job and while Live and let die and The Mna with the Golden Gun are IMHO travesties the rest were good>great - For your eyes only being my fav

As a general rule the newer they get the more i like them -with the exceptions being The World is not Enough and Die another Day which are all effects and no substance - hell both were just stupid most of the time - laser factories? Invisible cars? Wtf?

Top 5

1.Goldeneye (as above)
2.Licence to kill (so dark - great villian and the tanker sequnce is probably my fav Bond moment)
3.The living daylights (gotta love that car)
4.For your eyes only (so many great sequnces - the subs, the VW chase - genius stuff)
5.A View to a kill (Walkern is superb)

(awesome theme songs in each case)

worst (worst first...)

1.Diamonds are forever (ye gods - those ''effects'' - do u think they spent a fiver on them?)
2.From Russia with love (tedious - some action...please!)
3.Live and let die (when u have a 20 min boat chase u know they are compensating for something!)
4.Dr No (just so average)
5.The Man with the golden gun (loads of production probs - and it shows)

As for this new chap playing bond (he looks like he's in his late 50's :nervous:) - i'll wait and see, but i hold out no real hope....
I like all your 'Worst' films especially Live And Let Die but we'll agree to disagree. Great to see somebody appreciating A View To A Kill Walken has to be my fave Bond bad guy and i love the fact that the film has that awesome dude from The Avengers in it. Timothy Dalton is so damn good and according to the late Desmond dude who played Q and starred alongside all Bonds he was closest to the one in Fleming's books, i mean come one he kept the charisma and coolness and added a dark side and some substance to his character....The others were great but where was the depth?

Worst Bond Films (Casino Royale Spoof Not Included)
1. Moonraker
2. The World Is Not Enough
3. Tomorrow Never Dies

The rest...in there own way i like....overall i am a big fan of the series. Craigy boy is 37 btw!

Seems you don't like old-fashioned films that look a tad dated Izzy.  You see that doesn't bother me, i see them as classics i enjoy them all the same i can ignore that as long as the acting is fine, i mean all the early Bond films look a bit ropey like the car scenes clearly done in the studio with moving backgrounds but what the hey they still rock! I mean you could say well it makes it obvious it's not real...that it's only a film, but so does the fact that their recognisable actors who you've seen in various other roles....with the exception of the latter end of the 80s the more recent the Bond films the worse.  End of the 80s ruled as i'm sure you agree dude, A View To A Kill (1985), Living Daylights (1987), License To Kill (1989), now that for me is an awesome triple bill that unfortunately most reviews would slate....oh well....each to his own


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Buddy J.B. on October 15, 2005, 06:17:41 PM
In the future  Ewan McGregor  should try out for the part, He could reincarnate the Roger Moore type of Bond.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Hammy on October 15, 2005, 06:28:55 PM
In the future? Ewan McGregor? should try out for the part, He could reincarnate the Roger Moore type of Bond.
Not a bad idea i think he could carry that level of chessyness, yeah the dude could pull it off, he'll probably suit it better in a few years, he's probably still a bit to young for the part or young looking at least...


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Timothy on October 15, 2005, 06:35:30 PM
I think after the new guy has a few in . and it's time to find another bond that they should really go with some one who isnet know at all.





Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Izzy on October 17, 2005, 11:58:38 AM
Lol - have u seen the plot for the new film? ''Bond has to stop a spy winning a game of poker''

Yawn

Q and Moneypenny have been written out

I hope this film isn't another From Russia with love - people seem to love it, but it bores the hell out of me!


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: Will on October 17, 2005, 12:03:13 PM
The guy who's gonna play the new James Bond kicked motherfuckin ass in the movie Layer Cake. I may actually go back to the theaters to see a James Bond if he's in it. I just hated the episodes with Pierce Brosnan as Bond.


Title: Re: New James Bond?
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 17, 2005, 12:17:42 PM
Timothy Dalton has always been my favorite Bond hands down, with License to Kill being my all time favorite Bond movie. He simply brought something to the character that was lacking, a dark and intriguing side that Pierce Brosnan has taken a liking to crapping all over. Goldeneye was the last good Bond film in my opinion as well as the best first person shooter : ok: