Here Today... Gone To Hell!

There was some bad news when I got to work.

A woman, Anne, didn't show at work last thursday and her body was found two days from that.

It's hard to understand all of this and I think everyone has sometimes thought about killing themselves since "everything is so shit anyway". But we don't go through with it since our mind tells us this ain't a dead end.

Her mind must've said there ain't no other option and her husband was doing a fine job with that, bossing her around and calling her names and basicly ruining her last brink of selfrespect. I didn't know about this but her closer friends told me. She had been talking about how her husband wouldn't let her come to this party and that he would go afterwards to a hotel. She was depressed before and maybe that was the final straw.

I didn't know her too well even if I did work with her over two years and I thought she was a little bit like a joke being hysterical about everyone and everything. And she made a big deal about every error she made.

Now I wish to change few things but I can't. I could've said some nice words when on a coffee break instead of talking with the friends I have. I could've done that.

I've always thought it takes courage to live, but still I didn't think she would have it in her to pull anything like this through.

No note has been found where she would explain. And I know I'm not the only one asking themselves if there could've been anything we could have done to help her.

Rest in peace Anne.

funny how your best friend is around smokin' bongs with you n' the next mornin' he's found dead hangin' from a fuckin' tree... :o

Suicide Is the most cowardly deed you could do. Not having the courage to live your life.

It is a selfish act indeed,but I would not judge others, we have no idea of the despair some people may go through.

Exactly, GnRFL if every wrong thing happened to the wrong person, you, are you sure you wouldn't break?

And she was on a medication since she was having a bad depression. I guess this proves the pills won't help if you don't handle the cause.

That's bullshit.  Suicide is not the coward's way out.  It may be an easier way out, but it takes balls of steel to do it.  That's why most people who attempt it are just trying to get attention.  They don't have the nerve to actually go through with it.  Life is like a movie theatre, if you've sat half way through it and hated every minute, no one should blame you for walking out early.

I'm sorry for your loss, Blue Cut.

My uncle committed suicide last year. He struggled with depression and alcohol. I feel bad for not spending more time with him. When people are depressed the last thing they need is to be alone.

I understand her.

It'(s not just a question of not being able to live life, but not having courage to do what should be done.
Dying is less violent. You know everything's ended beyond. Black. But it's not scary, it's peaceful
No more torture over what should be done and can't be done.

No more " i have to leave him but i can't, i know i'm a whimp but couldn't do it alone, am paralysed but can still do one thing to save myself or/and my honor".

She only Hara Kiri-ed herself.

She kept her self worth in doing this. It was probably the only place she thought she had some.


Forgive her.

I really hate when people commit suicide, sometimes I think they have more options more than kill themselves, anyway people sometimes go through difficult situations and not all the people can handle well a rough time in life. Hope she's in a better place

Bobby Gaylor - Suicide


Animals don't have a choice.
If they're not happy with their place in the world... too bad.
They have to live the life they've been given.
Humans, on the other hand, don't have to.

We have a choice.
If you don't like your place in the world
you can get off anytime you want.
Suicide. That's right.

You don't like the way your life's going,
you don't like the way you are in the world,
anything around you,
you can check out anytime you like.

Animals aren't allowed that thought
and believe me, if they were, they would use it.
There'd be a lot of dogs and cats, owned by assholes
that live in high-rises, diving out the windows.
Zebras... if they even had remotely that thought
would take a look at themselves and go, 'What the F*#K!
Black & white in a green & brown world... this blows.
I'm just gonna jump in the river.... I don't have a thumb to work a gun or hold a knife or even open a jar of pills. I'm just gonna dive into the next lion's mouth. Why even bother?'
Now, monkeys have the opposable thumb so they could kinda do it the exact same way we do.

Now, there's a bunch of people that say, 'Oh, it's against the law'. Well, it's only against the law if you do a crappy job and get caught. Other people say, 'Oh, we should save them'. Yeah, well you know what? Not everybody wants to be saved. Not everybody should be saved. And who are we to force our will upon them? I mean, isn't that one of the joys about being a human? Freedom of choice? Now, it's not all bad. Now, I'm not saying 'Kill yourself'. But if you're gonna be an idiot and do it anyway, it's no sweat off of my back. There's a lot of good that could come from it. A little bit of bad thrown in. Some of the things: A job will open... An apartment will become available... There'll be more air for me... They say there's two girls for every guy - if you're a man, there'll be four chicks for me... There'll be more Ketel One vodka for me... There'll be one less idiot in line at the bank who gets up to the window without their F*#King slips filled out... I won't ever have to go to the store to buy my favorite Salt & Vinegar Chips and have the clerk point at you and say, 'They bought the last bag'.... You won't help change the McDonald's sign to a Hundred Billion Served... You'll never get AIDS... You won't have to worry about calories ever... No more, 'Hey, does this make me look fat?'... There'll be one less polluting human...You won't have to recycle... There'll be one less car on the road... There'll be more Ring Dings for me... Fifty or so chickens' lives will be spared... Your fingers won't ever get red from eating pistachios... You won't be forced to visit your Grandparents on Sundays anymore... No more church... You'll be saying, 'Hey, World - Kiss My Ass!'... No more wet dreams about Supermodels... No more Barry Manilow... For a few years anyway... Wondering 'Am I a loser?' will be a thing of the past... Say good-bye to crappy Xmas presents from Aunts and Uncles... You won't have to suffer through a Motley Crue reunion... F*#K flossing and brushing... You'll never lose sleep over a pregnancy scare... Adios, Acne... Worrying whether you fit in or not won't be on your brain... See ya later, homework... You'll never have to sit through another movie brought to you by the creators of South Park... Schools out forever.... No more paying bills... You won't have to do chores... You won't be able to run over toads with the lawnmower though... You'll also miss McDonald's French Fries... Bugs Bunny... The amazing electrifying feeling that surges through your body when you kiss someone for the first time...

You won't be able to watch the letterbox director's cut of Jaws... Candy... Living above ground... Pudding crust... You'll miss the rush of getting your first apartment... Getting to the point in your life where you can tell your parents to 'F*#K Off! I gotta make my own mistakes....you did'... You'll miss sex - you'll miss thinking about it, looking for it, sex by yourself, sex with a partner, sex with multiple partners... No more summer nights that seem to go on forever... Roller coasters.... Naming your kid the name you always wanted... Making a difference in the world... You'll miss the experience and pleasure of Hallucinogenics... Watching your neighbor's wife change clothes with her blinds open... A lifetime of masturbating... Watching your favorite team sweep the series... Music... You will definitely miss music... Trying to sneak into your house drunk - three hours past your curfew... You'll miss the blaze and glory of the 4th of July fireworks... The taste of Captain Crunch... If you're a boy, you'll miss the feeling the first time you reach up a girl's shirt... If you're a girl, the feeling the first time you reach down a boy's pants... You'll miss your favorite coat... Waffles with whipped cream and strawberries... Beating your friends at video games... You won't be around to see what shape and color the new marshmallow in Lucky Charms will be... You'll miss the feeling you get when reminiscing about your first love - thirty years after the fact... The joy of giving and receiving at Christmas... Skinny dipping... Getting stoned, reading Green Eggs & Ham, and eating like a horse that got loose in the grain bin... Flying cars... Hey, you were born - Finish what was started.

If you feel that you have no choice but to take your own life, ask yourself: "Whatever I try to do to solve my problems, can it possibly lead to me to a worse outcome than being dead?"

The answer is No. You are just paralyzed by fear and are unable to think straight. If you have reached the point of wanting to take your own life, you have very little to lose. If you have very little to lose, you might as well get rid of all your fears and do everything that you feel will make your life better. A person considering suicide have sunk to the bottom and the only place left to go is up.

I agree it would be  hard to kill yourself

but people have to realize that shit gets better

if u die its over

if u live u can make changes in your life and get to the other side.


u gotta survive

Lost 3 friends to suicide, n' im only 22.


.......in the end, it fuckin' is the cowards way out, they leave us behind to deal with them gone n' all the shit that comes with it for the rest of our lives.

I wouldn't say it's cowardly, because it takes a lot of courage to end your own life. However, it is outright selfish, leaving the people that love u to deal with all the shit. Suicide is never a solution to anything. Any problem can be solved.

I think it's selfish to say that because some people love us, we can't die.

I think it's also selfish to think that the way we are loved is how one SHOULD be loved or wants to be loved.

So if my man hits me, and i want to die, you're going to say " hey, don't do it, he loves you, with his fists but he does" ?


What sort of shit is that ?

No, people are not sayin this.

What (I believe) they mean is that because someone treats you like shit, doesn't mean you have to kill yourself. You gotta find the courage and fight back.

Divorce him, go to the police, find someone who loves you and ask for help. I'm pretty sure that someone will help you.

Commiting suicide is like admiting you lost.

just think of all the things you will miss out on thats what i do, daughter growing up there is always a way out besides youll never hear Chinese Democracy :peace:

You know, this whole talk goes to show that some people don't seem to understand how tired some people can be.

I know for i have wanted to end it, and have friends who have ( mostly on drugs at the time).

Do you know how much energy it takes to fight back ?

How do you take what you already gave to survive ?

Have you, in your life, ever thought " oh what a cycle of shit !!!! "

I don't mean weeks or months of shit, but years ?


Now imagine some people have had shit from the beginning and imagine after DECADES, it's still not ended.

Imagine they hoped, time after time after time and yet, despite all changes they made to themselves or their lifes, something always brings them back into the pot of shit ?


I don't judge ...

Personally, now, iwouldn't commit suicide i think, because i believe i have answers waiting for me in my life and until i got them, i am not going anywhere.

That's exactly what I was saying.

Well, yes I have, and you know what keeps me strong? The things I've seen since I first had that thought...

I still have a mark on my hand that reminds me every day, how stupid would I be if I had finished what I started that day.

I wouldn't have met 3 members of GNR, I wouldn't have seen the new GNR twice, VR, I wouldn't have met all these bands I've met and I've become friends with lots of them, all these girls I had since then, all the joy and the sadness I've felt...

I'm sorry to dissapoint you by not agreeing with you but I think that yes, sometimes life treats you like shit, but these are the times when you gotta take control of yourself and get fuckin real.

Suicide is the stupidest thing someone can do, cause you never know what's waiting for you around the corner.

Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get...

I understand what you're saying.? No one should stay in a physically abusive relationship. But suicide isn't the way to leave that relationship. The abuser will just move on to someone else and probably hit her as well. She shouldn't let him chase her out of her own life. Instead of ending her life, she should fight for it--it's hers.

whats your prob. sounds like you actually support this shit, if life is a never ending cycle of shit then fuckin' do somethin' about it, dont complain n' say suicide is ok, its bullshit.

What makes people think there gonna get away with it, personally i think you stay a lost soul, anyone who thinks suicide is ok  can get fucked!!

And if you say that n' havnt dealt with someone who had taken there own life then your totaly fucked!

This is so hypocrite

There's a huge buzz about her death, my boss the stump has elevated herself as a helping "cough hand cough"person.

Maybe it would've been good to notice her when she was alive instead of having some memorial-meeting and talking how she is now in peace and moved from time to eternity. And then read some bible.

What is this, some circus where to promote yourself "See how I handle this crisis"?

And if someone feel the need to really talk about his/her feeling just maybe it should be done with a professional, instead of some wannabe.

sheez.

I say i " understand".

Life isn't so black and white as to support something or not support it, why would i have to take sides for something or its opposite ?

There are other choices.

I do not have the right to judge someone's choice.

My life is dedicated to people who suffer in more ways than YOU could possibly imagine, to accompany the living a lot of times and to help them accept death, upcoming deaths, illnesses, etc etc...

Should someone choose death over life, it's their own decision and i am there for them just as much as i'd be for anyone else.

I do not believe in christianity, therefore the whole " you will become a fallen angel" shit does not do anything to me and i do not believe suicide is the reason to the whys of lost souls.
Another topic.

Now, you can think what you like for i don't give a shit.

But i think it takes far much more courage to admit being weak and admit failure rather than pretend and fight thin air in hope of nothing.

My opinion.

Scary.  :nervous:

No, it's not.

Many people, the sick ones, for instance, choose to die, with or withoutr medical help.

Some nurses ( for instance) have a role to accompany the people towards death, not judge how they got close to it.
They are called alexandra nurses and are beautiful people.

I see death as a journey. Not an end.

I totally respect your opinions Jessica but one thing is to die or let yourself die for some desease and another different is to use a gun and put a bullet in your brain or jump from some cliff, that's the thing Im not supporting.
Ok you are not a christian catholic or whatever religion people are used to lead, but I know for sure that you don't want a close friend to end his/her life just because he/she can't handle the problems he/she has been through.

I'm sorry you're having a hard time. If you're that unhappy with where you're living, I would suggest moving back to where you used to live. No job is worth that kind of pain. Your friends seem to care a lot about you. It would be best to call or email them when you're having problems, instead of trying to handle it all by yourself. It doesn't mean you're weak if you ask for help. Everybody needs attention and love when they're hurting.

There are a few things to keep depression away. Drinking and drugs should be avoided. Alcohol and pot have depressants in them, which effect your mood drastically. Cutting back on caffeine is also beneficial. Sleeping a lot, or not sleeping enough, can cause depression. It may help if you take a walk in the mornings. Exercising is great for your overall well being.

I'm obviously not a professional, but I've been to therapy a few times, and that's some of the advice I was given. I hope it's helpful.

even though i'll never know what its like to be in the shoes of a suicidal person and understand what they're going through........i just can't see how suicide is the answer.

to me life overall is a good thing. yeah you get shit and bad things happen........but there's some good too. even if its mostly bad its all an experience. if you throw life away you have nothing. its the experiences of life whether good or bad that make it worth while to soldier on.

sorry to get all hippy on everyone.

although..........if i were to lose my hands or unable to play guitar or atleast some musical instrument. shit i'd be pretty suicidal it'd be hard to stop me to get that noose. :nervous:

Short and Sweet.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone who kills themselves.

i find those people weak willed and gutless.


I dont care how bad life gets it will always get better if u give it a chance.

Why kill yourself?

People have to realize that life is about disappointments and u just gotta carry on and learn to deal with it.

I would love to hear a good reason why someone would kill themselves cause I cant think of one that is valid.

Sometimes it just seems a good idea, when you feel like shit and aren't sure if you can make it, kind of like I feel now.

It's terrible and wrong to condemn or judge others for committing suicide, writing it off as "cowardly." We have no idea what's running through people's minds, or how sick they really are.

If suicide was the coward's way out, there'd be alot more deaths in our world.  You can call it selfish to do, but I think it more selfish to demand someone stick around when their world is shit.  I'm not talking about a bad day, week or even month.  We're talking about years of shit where there is no sign of it getting any better.  Sometimes you have to cut your losses.  I'm not condoning suicide as each person and circumstances are unique; but I'm sure as hell not condeming it either.

Just found out that someone from my high school committed suicide a few days ago.  It's really an awkward situation because the news is being passed around, while everyone knows that the entire school gave this guy a really hard time in high school.

There are always the kids that get picked on in high school and he was a target right away.  I think he had mental problems, but no one ever had it confirmed, he may have just been very awkward.  Anyways, in Grade 9 he had to wear cotton in his ears because I believe they would start to bleed sometimes.  This made him a huge target and he never lived it down the next 4 years.  He was also an absolute asshole to everyone that talked to him, but I would guess that's a defense mechanism.

A lot of people seem to feel his treatment in high school is responsible for him killing himself.  I think that may have played a part, but I keep telling people that it's 3 years later and I'm sure there are much more serious reasons why he would go through with something like this.  I'm not entirely sure what to think of the situation, but I feel bad for him and his family.  It also reminded me about how downright mean and inconsiderate people at a young age can be.