Here Today... Gone To Hell!

taken from sludge
its from the poster madagascar
as with all things like this, take it with a grain of salt


forgot to post this here - I called Dizzy Reed (keyboardist of GnR) the other day.

Basically, the intent of my call was to ask him about whether we could book his touring band, Hookers N Blow in Spring 2006 at my fraternity, which he replied was a possibility.

But, I also asked him a few questions that fans had on their minds. These questions had the following responses (for those who care):

(1) He does not know about the rumor that GnR will have a new song on the soundtrack for the movie "Da Vinci Code" - its a possibility for its Spring 2006 release but its something that Axl's dealing with

(2) Buckethead's guitar parts will remain on Chinese Democracy.

(3) Chris Pittman, 2nd keyboardist, is still in GnR.

(4) the epic track "Catcher in the Rye" will be on Chinese Democracy and is written by Axl based upon the book of the same name and will have a different sound from UYI epics.


Full interview synopsis can be viewed here: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=51729

From the last time I contacted him, he told me that Silkworms & Rhiad & Bedouins will NOT be on Chinese Democracy. They were simply test tracks that the band tried out during the 2001-2002 tour.


O, and on the topic... I think it will have slightly better success that Velvet Revolver w/ good reviews. It'll prob. sell 2-3 million in first year. Maybe explode in the future though once the music scene changes...

Hope this helps!

I like this interview. I'm not surprised that Silkworms and Riyadh will not be on the album. Even though Im not a fan of Riyadh, I was looking forward to hearing a studio version of it. We basically already knew that BH would still be on the album. Best news here is about Catcher in the Rye. This is the song I'm anticipating the most, and these new comments make me want it even more. Dizzy confirms its not about John Lennon. If its based on the book, maybe Axl was inspired by the character's nervous breakdown. Obviously, he can relate to it. :hihi: Its funny how after all these years of hell, we sometimes get a glimpse of heaven! :beer:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I wanted riyadh to be on the album

Riyadh will most likely be a B side to one of the singles. But the good news if you want to look at it like this is we will only have heard 4 songs off the album and not 6 like we thought.

Too bad about Riyadh.  But this could be a "measuring stick" of how good the songs are on CD.  I'm sure Axl reads the boards and knows of a good portion of the fans online like Riyadh, perhaps Axls confident that he has alot better up his sleeve.

Funny. Fortus said once that Rhyiad is gonna be on the album. :P

I just hope Rhyiad will be released in studio version (I don't care if it's gonna be on the album, could be a B-side). It's my favourite new song.  :'(

Makes me happy after so long of a wait I rather have material I have never heard before.. Neither song was ever memorable to me or anything long lasting so that leaves room for two more gems

didnt someone say rhiad was a different song now with a different title? 

I add the 3rd grain of salt.

Like many said,
Me too hope it, If not on the first,  on the 2nd.  hehe, :yes:

I knew 'Silkworms' didn't have a snowball's chance, but I think 'Riyadh' WILL be on the album. It already have a cult following and has so much potential...

Never liked those two songs anyway....  ;)

Agreed wholeheartedly.  Those 2 don't hold a candle to earlier GnR works or The Blues or Madagascar.  Axl may be psychotic but he knows how to write a song and it wouldn't surprise me that he won't release those two on CD.  Of course that also assumes that CD will EVER come out or that the post on Sludge was accurate.

It was on sludge , must be true.  : ok:

sludges integrity starts now!!

thanks dave.

would if be okay if the inverview synopsis was copy/pasted here?

and was it Madison that interviewed Dizzy?

As for what's 'revealed' about Silkworms and Ryhiad - I too hope that these songs will have a studio release in some form

I wanted to write the same joke  : ok:

BTW at least Axl realized that these songs are extremely weak tracks. As for the contradiction between Ricard's and Dizzy's words: they don't know anything, all of the players are out of the loop.

I dont know, I was thinking, maybe over the span of the last three, or four years, Axl made a change or two to the track lineup.

I personally really took a liking to Silkworms.  It was short, right to the point, but frickin tough.  The beginning I thought was very cool (different, but in a cool Pink Floyd type of way), and then towards the end when Axl was screaming and then the music all of a sudden comes to a stop, I really liked that.

jmo 

I never did think Silkworms was going to be on the CD.
I mean... its kind of interesting... but definitely not what you want to put on the "Classic Biggest Comeback of All Time" CD. "Pussy full of maggots" doesn't really seem to fit on a masterpiece CD....

I hope to hear Rhyiad at some point though.

silkworms = good ridance!! It sucked mayor tons!

Im also curious to a rhiad studio track, maybe axl will give it in a download via his notorious GNRONLINE website?

silkworms sucked, i think riyahd might have some potential

Who actually conducted this "interview"?

I think Riyadh has some potential, hopefully we'll get a studio version one day. I remember it was the one song that stood out right away when I saw their first show in Vegas.

Silkworms is a joke. Only two GNR songs are unlistenable: Get in the Ring and Silkworms. If Silkworms had been on Chinese Democracy, it would have been a very troubling sign regarding the material they had to choose from.

I didnt know you were that gullible. Oh wait, I should have thought it's only natural for you who even believe whatever the media say to trust a poster @ the sludge board.
Yeah they're only humans. they might have interpreted what they heard differently. See this board for instance.

And To whom whose post was off the mark,
The Richard's mail voodoo refers is of as recent as a couple of weeks ago.  : ok:

what album?

Johnnyblood,
  Don't forget My World with those 2.  :)
  Personally, I think Riyadh will be on CD, or on the 2nd album's release.  Just my opinion.  Silkworms was/is/will be awful.  Riyadh's got good potential in the studio.  Maddy, The Blues, and IRS will be classics.

I did.

i don't post here often - more of a mygnr + metal-sludge frequenter.

mmm well , those two songs, were kinda catchy, and good too, anyway, do you know where can I find, excellent versions of it like,  madagascar being performed in  Pittsburgh or something like that?

Lets pray Silkworms will be on Chinese Democracy! Its so damn great!!! Love the song!  : ok:

at the same time, Lets hope Richard's memory or comprehension is better than Dizzys! : ok:

Silkworms was ok in a electric keyboard sort of way (hardly rock though  ;) ) ...& Rhiad & Bedouins sounded good at the Vegas show if a little unfinished (a bit like Crash Diet, that starts of good then runs out of steam and was never finished).

This thread should be closed.

Sludge = SHIT!!

i like rhiad/rihayd/the r song a lot.  silkworms is pretty bad, the lyrics are pretty uninspired.  glad to hear about catcher and the rye!

Actually,Riyadh is one of the biggest  pieces of shit I have ever  heard. If indeed Axl reads the boards he would  have realized his mistake and would have taken the appropriate action, which is to bury the song once and for all. To say there is better up his sleeve  is a  given.

why don't people just wait until the album is in their hands or an actual setlist is provided before saying anything.. I don't know if we are getting one album or 3 but if it's only one I sure as hell know for me it would be better to heasr an entire album of stuff we have never heard before.. If those two songs aren't on the alhbum I could care less.. Haven't listened to them in ages and never liked them anyways..

Mike, I agree. More than likely, we're only getting one album. I would rather hear a bunch of new stuff than something that we've listened to for years. I love CD, and since its the name of the album, it will probably be on it. I also love The Blues, but I'm hoping it winds up on The Da Vinci Code or some other soundtrack. I want brand new songs on CD. Its hard to believe that there's some people here who want Oh My God to be on CD. :rofl:

As for OMG, I would say if axl released music more often then having that song would be cool by me.. But since we know different and exhaust every discussion on these forums I would rather get away from those few songs we have beat to death day in and day out..  Yes we do the same with the afd gnr but those are world known classics that were on actual albums... I can definetly take a tour say with all newer material if axl actually toured often.. people mentioned U-2 playing mostly new stuff from atomic bomb... Well that's cool for them because u-2 does many many world tours and they are reliable..  With axl you may get a 4 week tour and it be between 7 years till the next one while waiting for one possible album everyone thinks is amazing or mind blowing but the fans who never hear the fucker.. If axl gets more consistent and reliable then  a duplicate and experimenting is cool because you know more will follow sooner then later :yes:

More people on the boards like riyadh than hated it. Also the people that heard it live at HOB said it stood out the most out of any song of the set.


http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=22562.60

That poll has 26 people liking it while only 10 didnt like it.

Rhiad is great...exept the guitar solo. It sounds very industrial though, maybe it's the reason why they won't put it on the record.

I will give you that. BH with the new gnr seemed to play his solos too fast. I hope for CD they are more like his work on electric tears or how he did the madagascar solo. 

Ryhad and the Bedouins from Toronto http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1RZHAWPY6SWUP2AVLNLQ6EU3LM
It sounds fucking huge to me overall.

This is probably my favorite song from the new band but man did Axl butcher that version. He skipped an entire verse.

I think they should put off the very begining electronic keyboard intro (let's start with the guitars) and the buckethead's weirdo ultra-futurist solo (finck's first part is great) and then that song would be even more amazing. There are some killer riff, especially the outro. If they gave that song a little less industrial direction and a little more classic-rock one, it could be one of the best song I have ever heard.
Too bad there are those 2 or 3 defaults...but it's still great overall.

they did not play riyadh in toronto.

Detroit not toronto. I made a mistake. 8)

i heard somewhere that rhyiad and oh my god were on some set lists of the 2002 tour, but were never played except rhyiad in detroit. does anyone else know about this?   

i mean it`s a shame, that there are no soundboard versions of those songs.

They never played Rhyiad in Toronto. Detroit was the only gig in the NA Tour when they played this song.

Man, that was the first time I saw that video.
The song was awesome! Even if it did have a mistake.

Just imagine if this band wasn't Guns N' Roses... They could have so much more potential I think.
But I REALLY hope something comes out of this lineup. I really think they'll kick all kinds of ass once they start relying more on the new songs.

Come on Axl! Give us the CD! Tour! I really want to hear more new stuff now.

Thanks alot for that version Nesquick, it kicks alot of ass : ok: Voodoo, Rhiad was performed at the John Labbatt centre in London as well, not just in Detroit.

No, it wasn't. They played Rhyiad in London, England - NOT London, Ontario.

Ugh!
Just watching that performance made me sick.
I would certainly hope that songs like RATB, SW would not be on the nu-GNR record, if and if it ever comes out.

BTW, the Toronto show 2002 has NOTHING on the Saratoga 1991 show. And if you must, buy the show on DVD bootleg and find out why yourselves, because that was the real GNR and the real Axl.
GET IN THE RING - Saratoga!
Just some food for thought
 : ok:

Mark N Roses

Christ, don't be an ass. We don't need this old gnr vs. new gnr bull in this thread.

KV

Not a bad song I kinda like the solos,  Axl did butcher it thou 

Since i thought both songs sucked thats a good thing