Here Today... Gone To Hell!

This is the only song on the UYI albums that was recorded with Steven Adler on drums.  Despite it being mixed over 90 times, it was still used for the final recording.  Why didn't GNR just ask Matt Sorum to re-record it since he did ALL the other songs on the album?

cuz it was already a radio single before Sorum joined GnR  : ok:

That was quick... thanks.  I didn't know that.

no prob, apparently there is a different mix of it too from those radio days. I haven't heard it since then though so i can't be sure

It was first released on the Nobody's Child - Romanian Angel Appeal compilation in July 1990.

I guess they used the track with Steven because of that.




/jarmo

Civil War would be the perfect song to describe whats going on in the US today, its ashame they dont play it on the radio as much as they play the same bad old rock songs over and over

Yeah - what with the civil war there n'all  :confused:

Hey Izzy, read the lyrics, then read a newspaper.  Then you won't be so confused.  I do believe he meant to say, "what's going on in the world today."  May I help point out some very timely lines??? 

Lyrics:

Look at your young men fighting  (there is a war going on right now)
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying    (around 2,000 American soldiers dead, over 100,000 Iraqis)
The way they've always done before   

Look at the hate we're breeding   (for every death be it active engagement or collateral damage, will hurl countless brothers, cousins, grieving fathers into revenge mode and the war-zone provides a wonderful training ground and recruitment center for terrorist organizations)     
Look at the fear we're feeding  (fear works to stifle the voices of those who want to speak out against this unjust war which correct me if I'm wrong, began as a hunt for weapons of mass destruction that never existed in the first place)
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side   (money in my eyes, billions of dollars...no-bid contracts to government-friendly corporations, future oil business, etc.)
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights  (both sides have God on their side)
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars  (we are but one planet, one family, thus a civil war)

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "Peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam                 (something tells me Axl wouldn't fall for this either)
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land

And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor   (you got that right  : ok:)
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war

Look at the shoes your filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed    (oops, no WMD's?  Let's say it's all to topple a brutal dictator and spread democracy : ok:)
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind   (I, like so many others, fell for Bush's crap hook, line, and sinker right from the get-go)
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

"We practice selective annihilation of mayors
And government officials
For example to create a vacuum
Then we fill that vacuum
As popular war advances
Peace is closer" **                  ( : ok:like that whole passage doesn't fit?   ::))

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
I don't need one more war

I don't need one more war
Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway

 :yes: Great, and timely song indeed.
-Axl4Prez2004  :peace:  :peace:  :peace:  :peace:  :peace:

Great post....don't know why they didn't play it live in 2002. ??? totally relevant and a gnr classic.

Without a doubt a great GNR tune, timely yes, but for some reason I think , that Axl has got a little bit more in store, and probably isnt so BONOish to want to propogand his music in that way. But like the Tune Civil War Im sure thier are things on his mind he will convey about the state of the times , moreso for musical reasons then political , even if what he says causes contraversay, cause thats what he does, who he is. And that is one of the biggest attributes I have always loved since first hearing ,GNR in the days,remember, he sang "DONT DAMN ME!".
So knowing all that makes me salivate more for what he will say or sing!

ANd the tunes we know already give indication that hes goin deep.
 

Once in high school I had to do a presentation in history class about government corruption and dishonesty, and to start it off I played Civil War.  It was awesome for two reasons...one of course that I got to play GN'R in class.  And the other is that the presentation had to be at least 40 minutes long and simply playing that song took up almost 8 mintues of it.

Dedicated?

Thank God someone else takes the same approach to Bono's bitching as I do. Yes, world, I hate Bono.

You can tell the dif between Adler and Sorum, Adler rocks man :beer:

dont know why Izzy couldnt be on it, was our last breath of the old line up :'(

:beer:
ha!  that is awesome!   : ok:

:hihi:  : ok:

Civil War would also apply literally to what's going on in Iraq beween the various factions.

This was literaly my first aproach to see how messy the world was and still is, and yes this would fit quite well in this day situation.

Civil War is one of my favorite GnR tracks. Great song. I havent listened to it for ages but after reading the lyrics above, It really does fit the shitty mess that has been created by W. IF they do another tour , i hope they will included it in the set.

civil war is a sex gods