Here Today... Gone To Hell!

do yo really like this song? this is probably the only song that we know appear in the new disc, if axl will release someday, but, do you really like it? do you think this song will be a single??   in my personal opinion i dont like it... n I dont think this is the more powerfull song... if axl wants show us the perfect album, whit this song... he will fail....but is my oppinion.... what do u think?

ps
sorry my english....

It's the first (new) GN'R song I heard and I liked it straight away.
Mind you I wasn't this big GN'R fan till then.
It was like 'love at first listen'. :love:

I'm not a fan of that song. I think it's pretty weak. It sounds like a bad Nirvana wanabee revival for me. I don't like the industrial texture either. and the guitar solo is really weirdo :confused: (anti-melodious, ultra futurist, really weirdo)
anythingoes, you should check "the blues" and "madagascar" they are way better. They sound more like the GN'R we all love.

great song

mmm honestly man, this is a cool song, its not the most powerful song as you said before, but its strong, it has feeling, but its simple... ?I learned to like it with time hope you learn too..

ps: I wouldn't like that the new Guns n Roses album ?has a song with the same name... but its axl decission, so what can we expect....

anyway it dont really matter.

yeah, i really like the blues, in the matter of fact, for me is the better "new gnr" song, but ?i really hope the disc will come with more songs like the blues.. or madagascar... ?i don t like chinesse or rhiad or silkworms, isn't the gnr sound, and i think the whole disc will be like those song.... ?maybe im wrong...... maybe.

I guess you'll find out for yourself... : ok:



What are you talking about? It IS a GNR song, a great one, like YCBM also is. :peace:

I am sure the studio album will be much better and fuller.

I think he meant it doesn't sound like GN'R not that it isn't a GN'R song


But yeah, I like it a lot, it's different

Chinese Democracy, yeah its a cool not as strong as the others but I dig it!

from what we have heard so far the blues and especially Maddy and IRS point to the right direction.That's the CD i wanna year:fast and heavy when it comes to hard rockers dark and trippy when it comes to slower more spaced out songs.No more piano ballads please the blues is just fine(ok  another one wouldn't really matter if its really worth it but no more).

just my 0.02

yeah CD not sound like gnr... ?is too much diferent.... even the axl voice is tooo diferent!!!

Mediocre. The riff sounds a little like the start to 'I believe in a thing called love' by the Darkness.

In reality, its probably another of Axl's experiments...and you can't blame him for that. But as 'experiments' go, I preferred OMG and Rhyiad

I agree, if this is a title track Axl needs to beef it up. I like some of the lyrics in the song.

I like it.  it has a great, simple hook that sticks in your head.  it's also pretty short which makes for great potential rotation on the radio.

I had to listen to it a few times before i really liked it...since it's not the same sound.
just bought hollywood rose cd, fucking greeat.

The song CD was written before the darkness song  : ok:

It's a great song! Great riff, bassline, vocals and lyrics  which totally fits in themeaticlly whith the rest of the new songs.

Sounds like gnr to me (albeit an updated gnr, which IMHO sounds great). It's not really an industrial song, it has a tint of industrial but for the most part it is a straight ahead dirty sounding rocker.

I like the song alot and the fact that some people here think its weak, well we haven't heard the studio version yet, I'm sure the song will have the strength to kick your stupid ass. :P

  I have a Question for Dark, What leagal problems are out there that holding up Axl and Chinness Democracy besides the Duff and Slash case. 

How do you know? The Darkness released the song first on their EP (2002), however it could have been written way before this. And, officially, Axl hasn't released the song Chinese Democracy yet!

I doubt Axl/Darkness had contact before The Darkness made it  :hihi:

But yes, i enjoy listening to this song, the solo fits the song just fine and the riff is catchy IMO

not sure if you guys remember, but when the guy who taped the comeback vegas show was trying to sell it nobody believed him.  They all thought he was full of shit.  So he released two tracks to show that he was legit.  They were Welcome to the Jungle and Chinese Democracy. 

While I didn't think Chinese Democracy was ground breaking by any means, it was an alright song.  And myself and A LOT of others were thinking at the time, "Axl it has been taking almost a decade now to write songs like this shit!".  I remember people were very discouraged at the time.  As people heard the other songs I think it got better for them and for myself. 

All in all, the song is decent.  The music itself does not sound like your patented GNR, but with Axl's vocals behind it it makes it interesting. 

I like the song, but I don't like the live versions a lot. I think the studio version will sound a lot better.

I think so too, especially after listening to the Boston promo. The begining riff sounds GREAT. i just hope the studio version will have a "conventional" guitar solo, and not a weirdo shredding/ultra futurist one. I hope we will have something more melodious. However, concerning the Live version,  I never listen to it when I watch/hear my new GN'R bootlegs. Sometimes I even don't download it.

I think its agreat song, and the one i actually prefer more out of the songs i have seen live and heard.

Its raw, and kicks ass. I like madagascar, but its not got the balls of chinese. Chinese is earlier gn'r in my opinion. It would fit easily in the latter half of afd. Mady is of epic proportion, the road axl took elements os uyi, which in places is too much.

As for the darkness, dont insult music by mentioning those twats.

I hope they add back in those guitar riffs BH at the HOB show, for some reason in later shows it was either taken out or his mix was low. But that riff he does is awesome.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IRGDQ4XV82U1386LC3JV35D3I


The times on the track are 1:33-1:55 before the solo and  2:24 to the end during the outtro.

I think that part of the song adds so much more to the song. I think its still there just soo buried in the mixing. I really hope its on the studio version, i love that part.

I love this song. Blew me away the first time I heard it. It made me realize that even though Axl hibernated for almost a decade, he still had his talent. The lyrics are great. He talks about us, and the possibility of CD never being released. I've always been surprised that not many people ever picked up on that.

 :yes:

dirty  ;D

i love the classic rant like feel of the ending verse.

as Axl himself says: "nevermind The Darkness, we still can find a way"!!

It's a fantastic, grungy rocker, better than anything in ages. It's loud, aggressive, and has some great lyrics. It'd be a perfect single (length, not too hard, etc.), but not a first single...

Here is a rare version  of CD from Japan.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20X82BY87NW0P3B5MPR8YBXBFT

I think it's not BH but just the keyboards (Chris or Dizzy).

If I were him I'd open the album with Chinese Democracy that we've already heard as an introduction (/the exposition) of the album motif and finish it with Chinese Democracy two ie the latter part of the song radically converted from the first (as an conclusion).

It sounds like BHs playing to me tho.

Do you really want the album to bomb the charts? ???
Bad idea. Try again? : ok:

I think the opening track will be a song we never heard of. I trust Axl and the band to put a killer opening track.

i dont really like CD that much; Oh My God is a great song tho its not the same as CD and i really think the studio version wont sound as different as the live songs we;ve heard os chinese democracy but i guess it just aint my type of song i like.....and think a great single for the album would be IRS even though we havent heard a better version of it I KNOW its gonna be a great song? :hihi:.

I LOVE CHINESE DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!


Fuck off with the Nirvana shit peoples, not even the same chords >:(

Man, the best lyrics ever :yes: :yes: :yes:
Towards the end, it gives me the biggest hype man, the song has FULL power, what the hell r' ya's talkin' 'bout :-\

Robins solo rips......the whole thing is awsome :beer: :beer: :drool: :drool:

You really are indifferent to the construction or the concept of songs/albums, not to mention that of other people's posts, aren't you?

I don't think the opening track should necessarily be one of the strongest. For instance, "the Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" starts with the rather modest title track that pilots the miscellaneous development of the album.

Likewise, Chinese Democracy is a song just right to introduce the following expansion of the album with. The one we hear is only less than 3mins long that exposes people to the subject of the album and kinda breaks off with imperfect cadence leaving the lingering overtones. It perfects the democracy if there is a song that responds to this title in the end. 

That's what I'd do if I were him (BTW nes, don't forget the absolute proposition obviously implied here), and wanted the album to be cosmic not chaotic, all over the place yet coherent and focused but also diverse.   If it's not a title just for the first album or if it's not of so eventful contents as expected, that's a horse of a different colour. And there can be always  better ideas.

Now, elaborate on your reasons for calling it a bad idea? What is the logic of assuming that the idea should distance the album from the charts? I think it would do quite the opposite, as a consequence.

I think your idea is kickass ppbebe  : ok:

I like the intro/outro idea for a concept album...  cohesion at the ends... in the middle a lot of a little bit of everything all pointing to something universal/common

the choice of words for the title "chinese democracy" itself proposes a paradox -  therein lies the beauty.
"Wholeness is possible only via the coexistence of opposites" ~ Jung

it's a very aggressive song.  i've you've heard the boston promo from 2001 or 2002, you heard the few seconds of that song at it sounds much better!  anyway, i like grunge, so that's another plus!

chinese democracy gets a : ok:

oh yea, i'm new here!  i'm also on CD.com as misterbrownstone, and thenewguns and gunsnrosesfans as deadhorse!

 :peace: :smoking:

Welcome to the board misterbrownstone :D


Cheers eva, that's a great input. :D

I think the song is okay.  I hope the studio version is better.  I think IRS sounds like it has a lot more potential than Chinese Democracy the song.