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Title: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: The New Fiona Apple on September 30, 2005, 04:01:53 PM
Why hasn't anyone else started this yet?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/29/roberts.nomination/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- John Roberts was sworn in Thursday as the 17th chief justice of the United States after winning Senate approval with a solid majority.

Roberts was given the oath of office by the senior associate justice, John Paul Stevens, at a ceremony in the White House's East Room.

The ceremony was witnessed by President Bush, six other justices of the Supreme Court, Roberts' wife and the couple's two children, as well as members of the Senate and other invited guests.

"The Senate has confirmed a man with an astute mind and a kind heart," President Bush said before the ceremony.

The Senate's 78-22 vote ended a nearly three-month roller coaster ride for the 50-year-old federal appeals court judge.

Roberts watched the voting in the Roosevelt Room of the White House accompanied by staff who assisted him during the confirmation process, including former Sen. Fred Thompson. Roberts' wife watched the vote from the Senate gallery.

He was originally nominated to fill the vacancy created by the pending retirement of Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. But following the death of Chief Justice William Rehnquist September 3, Roberts was quickly named by President Bush to take over the court's top spot.

All 55 Republicans were united in their support. They were joined by 22 Democrats and one independent senator. Twenty-two Democrats voted no.

In an unusual break from tradition, senators voted from their seats as their names were called. Lawmakers usually are free to mill about the floor or leave the chamber.

The vote was never in doubt, despite misgivings from some Democrats that Roberts would be too conservative.

"I hope I am proven wrong about John Roberts," said Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, in a floor speech before the vote. "I have been proven wrong before on my confirmation votes. I regret my vote to confirm Justice Scalia, even though he, too, like Judge Roberts was a nice person and a very smart Harvard lawyer."

Kennedy was also among five Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee to vote against Roberts. Others voting in opposition included Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Dianne Feinstein of California and Evan Bayh from Roberts' home state of Indiana.

Democrats voting yes included Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Max Baucus of Montana.

"I do not know, none of us do, the mark that Chief Justice Roberts will leave on the court," said Sen. Mitch McConnell R-Kentucky. "With his many fine qualities he may be a great administrator, he may leave some great reform of our court system, he may revolutionize some area of law -- but he will be a successful leader."

Next nominee

With Roberts widely expected confirmation, attention on Capitol Hill shifts to the president's choice to replace retiring O'Connor. (View a gallery of possible Supreme Court nominees)

At the White House, spokesman Scott McClellan called on the Senate to treat Bush's next nominee in the same "civil and dignified way" Roberts was treated.

"The president will nominate someone that all Americans can be proud of, someone who is highly qualified to serve on the highest court in our land," McClellan said.

"While this nomination did not warrant an attempt to block this nominee on the floor of the Senate, the next one might," warned Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, in a speech Wednesday. "I hope and pray the president chooses to unite, rather than divide -- that he chooses consensus over confrontation."

Democrats express concern

Some Democrats complained that Roberts did not adequately answer their questions, after Roberts repeatedly deflected inquiries by insisting he could not comment on issues that might come before the high court.

Because O'Connor has been a moderate swing vote on the closely divided court, the battle over her replacement could prove more contentious than the comparatively mild tussle over Roberts' confirmation.

Bush administration officials close to the selection process have told CNN that Bush will announce his nominee to replace O'Connor as soon as Friday.

The focus of the search process has been on women and minority candidates, Bush sources confirm, although White House advisers are holding their cards close to the vest.

Roberts, a native of Buffalo, New York, grew up in Indiana before going east to Harvard for undergraduate studies and law school. A Roman Catholic, he is married with two small children.

I think it's smart, but at the same time very underhanded for Bush to elevate someone that young (by court justice standards) and that conservative to be Chief Justice so early in even being on the Supreme Court.

That make sure the policy and decisions of Bush will live for more then likely 30+ years more for either better or worse.

What do you guys think?


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Prometheus on September 30, 2005, 04:19:51 PM
fag.....






















its a fact



























just not this johnny roberts


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on September 30, 2005, 04:54:41 PM
A conservative was replaced by a conservative. The balance of the court stays the same. Untill O'connor's nominee is announced. Then it gets interesting.


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 30, 2005, 05:23:08 PM
Maybe somebody could squint more and make an opening....

(http://tinypic.com/e6ahwp.jpg)


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on September 30, 2005, 06:42:39 PM
Is Pat taking a shit in that picture?


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: SLCPUNK on September 30, 2005, 07:37:58 PM
It is a dual prayer to end constipation in the evangelical community and open up a spot on the supreme court.



Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Walk on September 30, 2005, 09:18:03 PM
Roberts is a decent moderate, but I hope the next nominee leans farther to the right.  :peace:


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Surfrider on September 30, 2005, 09:51:15 PM
Roberts is a decent moderate, but I hope the next nominee leans farther to the right.? :peace:
I don't think that anyone really knows exactly where he stands.  I think the best speculation is something like a Rehnquist.

I don't want an ideologue on the left or the right.  I simply want someone that will interpret the Constitution based on its original understanding.  Anything other than that is activism and anti-democratic. 


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: sandman on October 01, 2005, 10:13:58 AM
i'm happy to see bush will be leaving a major mark on the SC. he got a young guy in there. great move. he'll be there for 25+ years.

he may be a moderate, but these judges always remember who put them there. and for the next 20+ years, the SC will be greatly influenced by bush appointees. and that's a good thing.


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on October 01, 2005, 10:27:07 AM
As far as O'c Connor's replacement goes, Lets get someone in there that truly reflects the constitution and doesn't sway with public opinion or partisan politics.

I think Roberts will make as great justice. Even Democrats voted for him. Maybe there is hope for both parties to work together after all, the American people come first before special interest groups, they need to remember that on Capitol Hill.


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: POPmetal on October 01, 2005, 04:51:46 PM
I don't know what to think of Roberts yet. But by putting up such a fight against someone who is widely considered a moderate, the Democrats have ensured that Bush will nominate a solid conservative to replace O'Conner, because they have demonstrated that they'll play politics no matter what he does. Bush shows an olive branch by nominating someone more moderate than Rehnquist to replace him as Chief Justice, and the Dems still try to clobber him. Bush now has no choice but to please his base by nominating a true conservative. This way at least he won't lose the support he already has.

The democrats have no one but themselves to blame. If they didn't have to play obstructionist on every single issue and oppose Bush unconditionally, it might be different.

And props to the 22 democrats who broke off and voted for Roberst.


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: POPmetal on October 03, 2005, 06:08:55 PM
Well, I must admit I was COMPLETELY wrong in my last post.

I don't know enough about Miers to comment on her, but she certainly isn't a no compromises conservative. I think Hillary (or whoever the Democrats run at this point) just might have won the next election.


Title: Re: John Roberts becomes Chief Justice
Post by: Surfrider on October 03, 2005, 06:23:06 PM
Well, I must admit I was COMPLETELY wrong in my last post.

I don't know enough about Miers to comment on her, but she certainly isn't a no compromises conservative. I think Hillary (or whoever the Democrats run at this point) just might have won the next election.
Agreed.  The Bush presidency is over.  He probably alienated the only support that he had left.  This will make it very difficult for whomever the nominee is in 2008.  Democrats should be smiling everywhere.