Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Hey. I wrote an Email to Richard in August and got a response back this week. He answered two of my questions. I asked if when they tour, will they be coming to Jersey. He didn't respond directly but he did say that they were planning dates for gigs rite now. I also asked if Pittman was still in the band because a while back he said he was in the band with dizzy, axl, tommy, robin, and brain, but no Pittman. Richard said he really wasn't sure if Pittman was in the band. He must've gotten the promotion at Denny's to full time employee. As Saul would say: Chinese Democracy Starts Now!  :beer:

that chinese democracy starts now joke is the most overused, not funny joke of all time ever ever ever ever ever ever. and if they are planning dates they better come to where they had their best show ever...boston MA baby!

O Still sounds better than nothing its good to hear from someone, and hopefully Chinese Democracy Starts early 06

StoneTempleRoses

See..I still chuckle when I read it. :)

CHINESE

DEMOCRACY

STARTS  

NOW!!!!!!

I'm really glad to hear that, (the o6 gigs) but I still have a question, maybe someone could answer me. My question is: Who will replce buckethead?? that's all,  :beer: cheers!!!

I would say whatever Richard is sharing with us is something that should be more confidential. Just my opinion.

According to Dizzy who on his recent tour w/"Hookers & Blow" stated that Mr. Pittman is in the band, an exceptional keyboard player, and one of the more pleasant people to be around. I'm probably in the minority hear, but i believe Chris Pittman is an asset the band, a huge talent which will w/out ? this will be evident on the forthcoming release.

maybe in the road he seems to be useless.... but pittman is creative force in cd, he is a studio guy, he works personally with axl... he helps in the production, special effects, heyborads and mixing of the album

A world of endless wonder and high octane thrills, is awaiting you in the Dead-horse section..... :hihi:

-PEACE-

Definately good news...  : ok:

Thanks for sharing...

Thanks

Yeah, good.
You're not alone. He's an interesting unknown quantity. Maybe he makes JPJ of GN'R?

BTW, I thought Rich was planning more dates with nena right now? ???

Your opinion starts now!!  : ok:

My fortus email:

Hi Bruno,
thanks for taking the time to write to me.  I hope to be in Argentina
with Gn'R in '06.  Maybe i'll talk to Dizzy about doing a gig in
Argentina together!
thanks for writing, don't give up on us.  '06 will be a big year for
Gn'R.
richard

(I asked him if he would like to come to argentina just as a solo gig)

If GN'R played in Argentina, it would be great to play at River Plate Stadium (Buenos Aires), the same place where the old band played.
"Argentiina! Argentina!" fucking great!

Where do you email Fortus at?

I think richard is very busy right now, answering some mails... this is the reason, he cannot be with GNR now...very busy... :hihi: :P

http://richardfortusonline.com/interact.htm

its great he takes time to answer the fanmails..! 06 will be the year for GNR! Let 05 be the year for an announsment for GNR!  : ok:

well guys when you wrote, Chinese Democracy starts now, you forgot this sign:  " ?????? " 

And, I think They should tour in places they never went before, such as Bolivia..  :smoking:    let me dream ok????

Anyone heard any news on Finck? He doesn't do many side projects while GNR is in hiberenation. Has he just been watching TV & updating his web site for 3 years?

If you read the web site, then you'll get an idea of some of the things he's done.




/jarmo

I always think about what the new members have in their head when it finally starts.. Do they expect a super long tour like the illusion's days?? Also how will they feel if this all starts and they say my waiting and patience has payed off only to have axl leave the band in an arena when the newest riot begins.. it's not being negative either, it's just something any gnr fan should think about and expect..

Check out 'Quest / Call & Response / You First'. Latest entry, last question.

Robin seems to be a good person.  : ok:
 

Good point, Mike. The first year after CD's release is going to be very interesting. Its going to be the steepest mountain that new GNR has had to climb. Does Axl stay home and just have GNR be a studio band? Or does he risk the implosion of GNR by attempting some huge tour? For the sake of this version of GNR, I think he should just go the studio route. Axl can still be a success without touring. Not touring gives us fans the better chance of getting more albums from GNR. I know most people here hate to hear this, but a tour is just too risky. He couldnt handle the 2002 tour, and 99% of the world didn't give a shit. How's he gonna handle it when all eyes are on him? Imagine the nightmare of the last tour if GNR had actually been popular. There probably would have been deaths. This new generation is different. If Axl attracts a new fanbase with his new material, his state of mind is gonna have to change if he's gonna tour. This new generation that loves Eminem, 50 cent, gangbanger mentality, violence, and instant gratification is not going to be happy when Axl walks off the stage in mid performance because his vocals on Riyadh sucked. You can bet it wont go as smoothly as any of the past riots. It will be St. Lois magnified a 1000 times. There will be a chance of this every night of the tour. This isn't the 90's, folks. The paranoia of Axl and the aura of danger that surrounded GNR on tour isnt cool anymore. In this day and age, it's a nuclear bomb waiting to explode.

Several members (including Axl and Robin) hinted about a huge new tour (years touring). So I guess they indeed plan to be a long time on the road.


You really love to keep bashing the song and put your opinion like it's everybody's point of view, huh?

I'm not holding my breath waiting for the album to come out, let alone a tour. ?I have a friend who actually saw the newer version of GnR twice when they toured last time. ?I don't know how she managed that, considering how short it was. ?Saw them in Chicago and Detroit, and actually had an opportunity to watch Axl get pissed and walk out in the middle of Patience. ?Things haven't changed. ?I know there's diehards here, but I guess I'm old school. ?It's not GnR anymore. ?He needs to give it up and regroup with something different. ?If he came out with the same band he has but a new name, I'd have more respect for him - a little more respect. ?He's just making the name GnR into a colossal joke. ?

I just can't see it happening, to be on the road a long time, and actually make it happen successfully. 

Sure you can't. You can't even see this band as GNR. Too negative for me...

Also, you can always bitch about the current situation here. (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=22258.0)

I don't know. I think some of the new material is good, but the collossal joke is not what Axl has made of the GN'R name in term of music, but more the collossal mistakes he did by bringing some guys in this band. He definitely failed about some guys (Buckethead). This is almost unforgivable for me. WTF happened in Axl's head when he decided to hire a guy like BH? ??? For me, that was an insult to the GN'R legacy. What a f** joke it was. It was like an immense mongol casting. That was neither serious, not credible. However, some guys like Tommy and Richard are immense talents and those guys do justice to the old band. In the new GN'R, people like to se just the bad things, but dont forget there are also good things. EVERYBODY knows the old band was the real deal, nobody contests that, but none of us are Axl or Slash. If they are enough stupid to behave like two 5 years old children in fight after 10 years that's their problems. Unfortunately, us, the fans, can't do anything.

The only answer to all that story will be the Chinese Democracy album.

Well, thank you for showing me that.  Maybe I belong there, instead.

(but it's still not GnR).   

:hihi:
Ok, maybe they should change their name to "not-GNR" just to please you. ;)

Maybe Axl knows better than you what HE wants to do.
Also, it's really weird how in a thread about the rumour of the '06 tour you have to bash Buckethead and praise Richard. :nervous:

Nesquick is calling for Slipdisc. ::)

Tommy says theyre gonna be on the road "until the cows come home" :D


I can't believe there's still the people chanting the same old slogan.
Mate,  it's you who needs to give it up! 

great ppbebe!!!  : ok: :peace: :smoking:

I really have entered "diehard" Axl fan territory here.  I just don't think he can pull it off, that's all.  People can keep waiting "until the cows come home". 

Last time I saw you talking like that about Buckethead, you were sweating like a pedophile in mother care. Please understand that the real joke here are you, for disrespecting people?s intelligence; by assuming that the people on this board are still in for some more irrelevant, hate (=?mongol casting? = finally we get to see your true motives) ignorance driven, clueless Buckethead bashing by you. Especially, since they witnessed the last time you pulled a thread off topic, by introducing Buckethead. The same guy you used as an excuse (=?he doesn?t interest me, I don?t want to waste time discussing him?) only a couple of days ago, to flee "for cryin' out loud" from a ?discussion? you initiated and carried (=euphemism of the year) with an equal amount of ignorance and absence of argumentation.

You are living and breathing proof for everything I assumed about you in the last thread I directed at you and I really don?t care if you read it or not?Here you are again, starting something of which we already know; you don?t carry the goods to finish anyhow? I really couldn?t ask for more?really.

-PEACE-

I wont even touch on the childish BH disses , other then to say that maybe , like Buckethead , it's time to "move on" ?

Anyways , I could easily see a HUGE tour happening and working if and when Democracy drops and is a success. If the albym is strong , sell's well then theres no reason why a big tour couldnt and wouldnt happen. (keep in mind I'm going on the assumption that axl himself is ready and willing to undertake said tour)

Get 2 really good opening bands and just bust out 80 - 90 % new material!

- Yes, the word "HUGE" is definitely what I hope too. Some gigs like that http://www.cochonsalemontreal.com/video/MYGNR_MONTREAL_1992.wmv or that http://pages.infinit.net/gnr/556634/MYGNR_RIO_III_WELCOME.wmv , something big, something huge. the potencial is here.
- 80-90 % of new material is impossible, especially if you really want 50, 60 or 70 thousands people to come to the gigs. You need to play the classics, or at least, the 8-10 most important old GN'R songs that people want to hear. You can't deny your past, Axl knows it. I think start with 70-30, then 60-40 then 50-50 between the old and the new songs after a few month. 50-50 would be equilibrated. 10 old songs and 10 new ones, a 2H show. it should be progressive. let the time for people to know the new material when the album is out. Don't force them with almost an entire show with entire new songs they don't know yet.

Thank you.

Too bad a certain board member has to bring up the subject in every thread.


/jarmo

Why does anyone care how someone views this band?? The name gnr and it's members have different meaning to different people.. if you were an afd gnr fan then that is who gnr is to you, if you caught the illusions that might be what gnr is to you, and the new era as well.. I am a huge gnr fan, but of the past but I do have interest in axl rose so what I call gnr really doesn't matter.. We all have similar reasons for being here wether gnr of the past or axl rose of the present n future.. if people would just understand that the entire board would function much better imo..

There's adifference between loving a band because you started with them and grew to love them then to later have a new band under the same name and force yourself to like them.. it's not easy to be an older gnr fan and just like whoever axl chose to work with and just say it's gnr and I like them...

I will always be interested in axl rose, the gnr name, and the people who I grew up loving in that band.. people just shouldn't try to change others or get pissed because they have their own interpertation of what gnr is and will always be..

No kidding

But no more Pitman :rant: :rant:

He was my favorite band member :hihi:

You're telling me. Now You tell him. : ok:


Maybe people can't.
I don't know about yours but seemingly our cows are coming sooner than later.

BTW
Just in case I'd like to make this point clear.
I'm not a diehard of anything.
I may like Axl but I also like Brain Robin, B(oops) and so on??I'm a big fan of the band as a whole. and I'm a fellow GNR fans fan.

Thanks mikegiuliana.  Afterall, I only stated my own opinion.  I love the responses because everyone gets so uptight over Axl and GnR & other individual members (no matter what era you are a fan of).

 
ppbebe, I'm not sure what you meant by "You're telling me.  Now You tell him."  If you were referring to me, I am a her.   And maybe your cows are coming sooner than later!!!  :hihi: But, like I said, I won't hold my breath.  Why do you get so defensive over all this? 

Love how everytime we try to defend the new band there's always someone to judge us like "diehard Axl fan". :P