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Title: Dust In The Wind and Just Another Sunday
Post by: war1981 on October 28, 2003, 12:20:10 AM
does anyone know

1.where guns played dust in the wind
2. is it a guns original or cover
3. why is there only 2:16 of it on any bootleg
4. will it appear on chinese dem
5. if not why was it not released it is awseome

same questions also for JUST ANOTHER SUNDAY EXCEPT #3


Title: Re:does anyone out there know anything about dust in the wind and another sunday
Post by: jarmo on October 28, 2003, 12:51:35 PM
Dust In THe Wind was written by Todd Rundgren and it was used as an intro to November Rain (like It's Alright).

I don't think it or Just Another Sunday will be on Chinese Democracy.

As far as I know, Just Another Sunday is a GN'R song and it probably never was finished. So that might be why they didn't release it


/jarmo


Title: Dust In The Wind
Post by: ScottyGNR on December 15, 2003, 01:12:30 AM
I downloaded "Dust in the Wind" from the Hub.  It downloaded and came labeled as "Live Kansas Cover"  (which it clearly is not).  But this song is beautiful.  Anybody know anything about it??


Title: Dust In The Wind Bootleg
Post by: jabba2 on August 14, 2004, 05:47:24 PM
Anyone ever hear Axl sing this before? I have a live copy of it, but its not on any GNR records that i know of, unless its a cover of someone elses song. It is definately not the "All we are is dust in the wind" song that everyone probably knows. I also have a bootleg called "Aint Goin' Down" that i cant find on any other GNR records. The "aint goin' down" lyrics are pretty violent lol.


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind Bootleg
Post by: Dave_Rose on August 14, 2004, 06:33:26 PM
Dust In The Wind is a cover they played around 1993


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind Bootleg
Post by: tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr on August 14, 2004, 07:09:23 PM
The 'Dust In The Wind' that Axl played in 1993 is cover. The original artist is Todd Rundgren, or however you spell his last name. 'Ain't Goin' Down' was a demo for the Illusions albums, obviously it didn't make the cut.


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind Bootleg
Post by: jabba2 on August 14, 2004, 07:39:53 PM
Thanks for the info guys.


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind Bootleg
Post by: Dave_Rose on August 14, 2004, 08:17:30 PM
No problem anything to help a fellow gunner right : ok:


Title: New song?
Post by: shaun on October 23, 2004, 12:17:43 PM
On Emule there's a song called *Dust in the Wind* - the full file name is:
Guns N'Roses Chinese Democracy -- Dust in the Wind.mp3

It's being played live, it's crystal clear, it's 100% Axl on singing and on Piano, and a Guitar cuts in towards the end (there's no drumming).
I've never heard the track before, and sure hope it's a cover song and not a new song for CD? ;)


Title: Re: New song?
Post by: sic. on October 23, 2004, 12:24:58 PM
A cover from a song by Todd Rundgren, performed on the UYI world tour. I remeber Axl said he listened to Rundgren a lot while working on UYI.


Title: Re: New song?
Post by: shaun on October 23, 2004, 12:28:56 PM
A cover from a song by Todd Rundgren, performed on the UYI world tour. I remeber Axl said he listened to Rundgren a lot while working on UYI.

That solves that one then ;)


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind and Just Another Sunday
Post by: Dave_Rose on October 23, 2004, 09:44:08 PM
Wasn't Just Another Sunday done during the illusion era?


Title: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: D on December 17, 2004, 04:06:30 PM
axl played this at a concert somewhere, it use to be on napster but i cant remember exactly what it was

the lyrics went something like

ive lied ive cheated ive begged and borrowed


anyone have a clue if this is real or am i just dreamin it up?


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: BurningHills on December 17, 2004, 04:09:29 PM
Its a cover of Todd Rundgren's song "Dust In the Wind".

-Jeff


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Nytunz on December 17, 2004, 04:10:30 PM
Dust in the wind. This was played by the old Guns N Roses sometime in the early 90`s


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: willow on December 17, 2004, 04:14:02 PM
Okay you guys can yell at me, but it sounds like (It Alright) to me!! Black Sabbath (Bill Ward)


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on December 17, 2004, 04:16:46 PM
Okay you guys can yell at me, but it sounds like (It Alright) to me!! Black Sabbath (Bill Ward)

nope dust in the wind, todd Rundgren'

Tell everyone that I am sorry, truly sorry
For all the wrongs I done
I never meant to hurt nobody
Lord I never want to do no wrong

I have lied, I have begged and I have cheated
And I know my ship won’t be coming in
As I lay me down to take my rest
I see that it’s just dust in the wind

Take hold my hand, hold it tighter, ever tighter
You must believe that I love you still
But my strength, it grows weaker, ever weaker
And my body has lost it’s will

Oh my lord, I have lost once again
And I got no one to help me find my way
But I never wanted to hurt nobody
And I never wanted to do no wrong


i like the original a lot :)


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: anarchy on December 17, 2004, 04:17:30 PM
Okay you guys can yell at me, but it sounds like (It Alright) to me!! Black Sabbath (Bill Ward)

IT'S DUST IN THE WIND.


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on December 17, 2004, 04:41:21 PM
Its a cover of Todd Rundgren's song "Dust In the Wind".

-Jeff

FYI- Dust in the Wind is by Kansas, not Todd Rungren.


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Booker Floyd on December 17, 2004, 04:44:36 PM
Its a cover of Todd Rundgren's song "Dust In the Wind".

-Jeff

FYI- Dust in the Wind is by Kansas, not Todd Rungren.

FYI - Two different songs


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Johnnyblood on December 17, 2004, 04:59:34 PM
Its a cover of Todd Rundgren's song "Dust In the Wind".

-Jeff

FYI- Dust in the Wind is by Kansas, not Todd Rungren.

FYI - Two different songs

And Rundgren's Dust in the Wind came before Kansas's. It's on his 1972 double-lp "Something/Anything?," which is a sloppy masterpiece along the lines of what Axl is probably shooting for. Kansas's Dust in the Wind was released on their 1977 album "Point of Know Return."

As an aside, I think both these artists are useful in understanding Axl's musical frame of reference. Yes, NIN and the newer bands will have an effect, but I feel Axl is at heart a prog-rock thinker. That is where he and the rest of his former bandmates split. They were punk/metal, Axl was prog-rock. The two don't coexist very well (although they did somehow on Appetite, when Axl's melodramatic bent was reigned in by the band).

People talk about Axl going for an industrial sound, or alternative. I actually expected an updated, highly produced prog-rock sound, something like ELO, ELP, Queen, Kansas, Pink Floyd, later Zeppelin, Supertramp. Basically the bands Axl was hearing on rock radio in his teens. Obvisouly there will be new rock influences, including Radiohead, which is essentially a prog-rock band for the 21st century, but I do think these 70s kinds of bands and this type of music will be the template of anything Axl releases in the rest of his career. Just look at UYI.


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on December 17, 2004, 05:07:37 PM
I stand corrected. Nice to see some board members smarter than me regarding music history  : ok:



Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Booker Floyd on December 17, 2004, 05:08:56 PM
People talk about Axl going for an industrial sound, or alternative. I actually expected an updated, highly produced prog-rock sound, something like ELO, ELP, Queen, Kansas, Pink Floyd, later Zeppelin, Supertramp. Basically the bands Axl was hearing on rock radio in his teens. Obvisouly there will be new rock influences, including Radiohead, which is essentially a prog-rock band for the 21st century, but I do think these 70s kinds of bands and this type of music will be the template of anything Axl releases in the rest of his career. Just look at UYI.

I think "Oh My God," not to mention "My World," fuels a lot of this speculations. ?After all, its no secret that he is in fact going in an electronic direction (the ex members have said it, and he says so himself in the '99 MTV interview). ?I think youre right, there will be a lot of ELO/Queen influences (for obvious reasons), but its just as likely will see NIN and White Zombie.


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: jarmo on December 17, 2004, 05:39:40 PM
R&P: Is your new material more industrial? We hear that it is not very similar to that of your old band.

Axl: It is not industrial, the closest thing to that was perhaps Oh My God, but there are some songs that won't be on the album that were this way. There will be all kinds of styles, many influences as blues, mixed in the songs. But not so much inspiration of Aerosmith or AC/DC that was used on Appetite. Buckethead, his first influence and the reason why he grabbed a guitar for the first time was Angus Young of AC/DC. Several of the boys love to play AC/DC. It is only we will play other styles. When we tried writing songs in the old style of Guns N' Roses, they sounded too old, they didn't sound so alive. We could not make that. And I think that that also passed with the old Guns N' Roses. The songs composed by the boys for another album many years ago, everything sounded old. Then we tried to explore to maintain the band alive.

Axl interview Rock & Pop FM Argentina
Rock & Pop FM, January 22nd 2001


The ex-members can say what they want. They might not be the most reliable sources on what the new songs will sound like.

Just because they changed the sound a bit doesn't make the music techno, industrial or electronic.



/jarmo


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: Will on December 17, 2004, 07:01:47 PM
The album is not gonna be industrial. People who don't like the new band usually like to say that, but except Oh My God and Silkworms (BOTH never played live after 2001), none of the new songs sound industrial to me. People should wait before they judge a music not even on the market yet.


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: jarmo on December 17, 2004, 07:18:13 PM
Yeah, it's gonna be techno!

 ;D




/jarmo


Title: Re: mystery song, what is this?
Post by: willow on December 17, 2004, 09:17:43 PM
I stand corrected!!
peace :peace:


Title: Dust in the Wind...
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on September 26, 2005, 12:12:23 AM
it was used as an intro to nov rain

who's it by? gnrinfo.tk says tod rudgen or someone wrote before 1972.. what band is it by really?


Title: Re: Dust in the Wind...
Post by: Steve McKagan on September 26, 2005, 03:03:27 AM
Todd Rundgren isn't a band it's a musician.


Title: Re: Dust in the Wind...
Post by: lynn1961 on September 26, 2005, 09:22:25 AM
Kansas!!


Title: Re: Dust in the Wind...
Post by: The Estranged MrFlashbax on September 26, 2005, 10:31:23 AM
Kansas!!

no thats not the same dust in the wind


Title: Re: Dust In The Wind and Just Another Sunday
Post by: Genesis on September 27, 2005, 10:00:57 AM
3. why is there only 2:16 of it on any bootleg

I have a full version of that song (including the rest of the song after the truncated solo). Download it off Bearshare.