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DATE:
September 26th, 2005

TITLE:
MYGNR member interviews Gn'R keyboard player Dizzy Reed.

TEXT:
MYGNRFORUM member Madagascar88 spoke to longstanding Gn'R member Dizzy Reed earlier today about the current situation within the band and what's going on in the Gn'R camp. Reed joined the band in 1990.

Earlier this week rumours began to circulate that a new Gn'R track was to be added to the soundtrack of the 2006 film 'The Da Vinci Code'. When asked about this Dizzy stated that "I don't know anything about it. It's possible but it's something that Axl's dealing with". When asked about this rumour Gn'R manager Merck Mercuriadis stated that "it might be true and that equally well it might not be true."

When asked about fellow Gn'R keyboard player Chris Pitman who joined Gn'R in 1998, Dizzy explained that "he's one of the most talented keyboardists and enjoyable persons to be around that I know and he is still in Guns N' Roses.".

As speculation among fans grows about what will come of the completed work of departed guitarist Buckethead, Dizzy stated that as far as he knows, Buckethead's parts WILL still be on the Chinese Democracy album.

Despite many rumours that the long awaited Gn'R album will surface in early 2006 Dizzy did not rule out a Spring 2006 tour of his side project 'Hookers n' Blow'.

Thanks to Madagascar88

SOURCE:
MYGNR Member Madagascar88 interviewed Dizzy Reed on September 26th.

being its from mygnr who knows...but if its true the best thing in that article is the fact that Buckets work will remian on the album

Agreed.  I'm sure Buckethead contributed some strong work to the album, and I hope that it stays on the finished product.

Plus, there wouldn't be any time spent re-recording any of those parts.

Ali

I disagree. ?IMO keeping BH's parts on the album will only fuel more "versus" arguments for whoever has to play them on tour. ?And after years of 'Slash versus' arguments, I'd think the GNR camp wouldn't want to go through that shit again. ?I'm NOT saying that BH (and of course Slash) aren't great talents. ?They, obviously, are. ?All I'm saying is that because BH's 'sound' is very distinctive, why base the new GNR sound on something that doesn't exist in the band anymore.? Not to mention all the future lawsuits over who wrote/owns what, etc. ?

Gypsy, since these are hired/contracted musicians, I am quite certain that Axl has covered his bases on writing credits and ownership issues. This situation is nothing like the set up of the old band. But, then again..... :hihi:

As long as BH is credited to the songs that he wrote and plays on there won?t be a problem. Don?t forget he did quit abruptly so there could be a deal worked out, also who knows BH could be back. You never know.

Better yet, if Bh himself is coming back.

 Everything goes in harmony.  :peace:

More Hookers N Blow for Spring 2006!!!

Yipeee :-[

fan: hey man, how r u doin?

dizzy: cool

fan: will you add a song to the davinci code?

dizzy: dont know

fan: is pittman still in the band?

dizzy: yeah

fan: will you keep bh's parts in the album?

dizzy: probably...

fan: thanks man

dizzy: buzz off...

We are also a missing an actual quote relating to BH.

Only Axl has the answer to this one. But as far as Buckethead won't tour with the band anymore I'll be happy. I don't want to pay to see this guy associated with the "Guns N' Roses" name onstage anymore. That was enough pain in 2002. He ruined the image of the band. I don't want to see it happen again. I hope they all learnt from the 2002 failure. Buckethead was one of the faillure factors. I can't see the band becoming popular with him.

y would anybody want buckethead in GnR.  He looks like a fukin retard. Not to mention he acts like one.  I remeber i went to one of the shows and he started throwing action figures in the crowd. WTF is that shit.

GN'R was mocked because of Buckethead. Is there anyone intelligent in the GN'R world to finally understand that? When something doesn't work, try something else. is that complicated to understand? In Marketing we call that a Diagnostic. Do you know the SWOT Matrix? (strenght, weakness, opportunities, threat). Buckethead was both a weakness factor and a threat one for the band. he was a guy who desinterested people, the general public. He made people leave! When you make a diagnostic, the objective is to avoid to repeat the same mistakes again, and to get better. There is always a solution. For me the guitar duet Richard-Robin was a very good solution. But now, This BH thing is not a good news for me, I can smell again the faillure coming back again if BH returns. This more than an intuition, this is almost 100% sure. BH is a good solo artist on his own, not a guy to recruit for a rock band. Wasn't tommy pretty clear during the Jarmo "CNN" (;)) interview? I don't know if he would be very happy to see BH back...and this is the same for the fans.

Oh god... Buckethead ruined the image of GNR?

Dude, talk for yourself. This is your point of view, not the truth for the rest of the world.

I've been seein so many people saying they loved the new band because of Bucket. He was a HUGE miss for the sound of the band, at least for me.

I think Axl hired BH because he doesnt talk. The image and skill factor was secondary.

Yeah, GNR has done so much better without him. Look at all the great things that have happened since his departure!! Buckethead didn?t ruin anything. He played the songs spot on and all other things really don?t matter. To ruin things Axl doesn?t need other people these days? And what 2002 failure? If Axl decides not to show up in Philly (or whatever) it's Buckethead's fault? Apart from that, Buckethead was a huge point of interest of new GNR, both from a crowd and a media point of view...


Because it?s a guitardriven rockband and he?s one of the most talented guitarplayers of our time. But go ahead and discuss some more looks and all other secondary bullshit you?re doing just fine!!


What?s your point? I know a thing or two about SWOT-analysis?s. When I would make a SWOT on the guy I would see his enormous abilities as a guitar player, after all it?s a BAND (they make MUSIC), as absolute strengths and opportunities? But that?s just me. Stop stating your own interpretation of things as facts. Using some bullshit marketing terminology doesn?t make it truer. Buckethead has been a great bandmember of many bands, there?s no reason to believe that he wouldn?t have been able to do his thing in GNR. He?s a great collaborator and credited for it.

Next time you decide to use some marketing terminology to give your posts a scent of credibility (probably to deflect from the poor, non existent musical arguments), make sure you know what you?re talking about. Now it makes you look like all the other hypocrite bashers who basically have nothing to say, but reach for all straws within a ten mile radius?


Speak for yourself; you have as little of a clue about what ?the fans? want as the next guy. Since I consider myself a fan I would really appreciate you not thinking for me, I would never be so narrow-minded?


-PEACE-

No offense or anything, but go blow yourself! Are you serious? Axl managed to fuck shit up all on his own as he has time and time again.

Buckethead is not your typical hair metal shredder... he experiments with all types of shit and isn't afraid of change... similar to Axl. I believe that is why he hired him in the first place. The shitty reality now for Axl is, he's got a bunch of has-been hair metal hang on fans who only want the "appetite" sound and won't let go. I say viva la buckethead! haha...

Back on topic. Yeah, it is pretty suspect how there is not an actual quote from dizzy about BH staying on the album. Another half ass interview with half assed answers.  :drool:

Is this me or does it mean that a current member of the band and their manager know about as much as we do about the band activity? Then again, maybe they "can't" tell us more about this.

LMAO @ nesquicks Bucket hatin ...  :rofl:

1st off , Axl Rose handpicked Bucket to be part of his new guns n roses and was happy enough with Buckethead that he felt very sad and even put out a press release when Buckethead quit. I think it's safe to assume that Bucket had more fans then Mr.Finck and Mr.Fortus combined while in GNR.

His "image" IMHO is no stranger then robin fink in army helmets and spacesuits with a half shaven head.  ::)

Then again , I guess it doesnt matter what both of them wore , what mattered was Buckethead could actually play the solo's correctly and/or add to them significantly. Damn , they gave him a 10 minute solo spot for fucks sakes. Imagine robin finck alone on stage for 10 full minutes playing guitar? Ewwww.

And yeah , he handed out gifts to his fans , man .. what an asshole he was.  ::)

BTW ... who did Kurt Loder choose to interview for MTV television? Bucket or Finck? Yeah , thought so.

After the VMA's what did fallon say in his schoolgirl like excitement? That Finck "did his job" or that Buckethead "did his job" ? Yeah , thought so again ....

Buckethead was the star of the new GNR behind Axl Rose , and had he stayed and by gods gift should he return , his fame with the band will overshadow the rest of the group , easily. (behind axl that is)

I'm gonna go with Tommy's words. Once there's something to say, they'll say it. For some reason I don't think Dizzy, Tommy or Richard will be the ones annoucing the news to a fan at a show.

If you go see their shows, have fun. But don't expect to get any earth shattering GN'R news from them.


This interview seems more like a conversation with Dizzy to me.  ???




/jarmo

Just to clafiry this from what I understand the guy that did the interview books shows for venues and was talking to Dizzy about booking hookers and blow then ask for a short interview. He talked to him on the phone it wasnot at a show.

Excellent post but your waisting your time. There are a lot of ignorant people on this side of town in regards to whats cool and not cool. WHats rnr and not rnr.

Bucket is an amazing talent and fit just right with what Axl trying to do with th enew band....Back to the drawing board....

Bucket is a star. Period. He would have become world class if he had stayed. ;)

This is the best part. Gotta love the current state of GNR. My goodness, why can't we get a straight answer or one simple piece of info?!

Merck also added that "Chinese Democracy may very well come out in 2006. Then again, there is also the distinct and equal possibility that it may not." As for 2007, he added "I don't want to mislead the fans. I will right here and now guarantee that it either will come out in 07, or else it won't. There is no grey area here". When pressed for further clarification about whether Axl is still located on the planet Earth, Merck suggested that "certainly he could still be on the planet. That is not for me to say. I would suggest that he is still here, while saying that there is also an equal chance that he has relocated to another planet. There are lots of planets in the galaxy and the Earth is one of them. This I guarantee."

The "new GNR" made me a huge fan of Buckethead. I was annoyed when he left, but who can blame him since nothing ever happens with this band! I have always said I hope his parts stay, so this is good news. Unless it is bad news. Axlsalinger is willing to personally confirm right now in this post that it is either one or the other.

Where did Merk said CD might not be out til 2007

wow, these conversations with dizzy and tommy have become so predictable its almost sickening. eh, what can you do. sit around and wait. thats it. if anybody does say anything, not going to be a keyboardist.

Heh, Merck didn't say that. I just made up those extra quotes. Or else I didn't make them up. Only Axl knows for sure, but it is definitely one or the other. Or both. Perhaps neither.

   The second I saw the title of this thread, I was happy for Younggunner!  Personally, I think Buckethead adds a hell of alot to this band musically.  However, I agree with one of the earlier posts that describes the challenges of marketing Mr. Buckethead.  I could live without the 10 minute solo at the concerts, but what I'll miss most (correct me if I'm wrong) is BH's part on IRS, live Night Train outro.? and Paradise City outro.? 

   Success will come down to marketing.  Look at Buckethead and Finck in '02.  They look like freaks.  The average Joe out there doesn't know Buckethead has some of the fastest fingers ever seen on a guitar.  All that's known of Finck is that he's not Slash.  The comparisons aren't fair, and the marketing was, and is, piss-poor.  Let's hope the GNR train gets rolling soon!

-Axl4Prez2004   :beer:

You might be onto something there Will.



Maybe so, maybe not.?

I tend to believe your first observation.

is this a joke :D.. If it is true (mind it's from my gnr king of the fans that know something or someone, home of ivan from argentina :rofl:) that bucket's parts are staying then at least you know cd will have great guitar parts

I've always been surprised people question whether Buckethead will remain on the album.

Yeah I know Axl talked about dumping Robin's guitar parts when he went on his short sabbatical, but I doubt he really did.  I also doubt Axl would drop Buckethead's guitar parts just because he left.

Despite whatever happens with GN'R, especially in any future live setting, the new record is far and away the most important thing.  To bring Chinese Democracy to the level he wants it to be, I believe Axl will use any part (from whatever musician) that works best.

Just my 2 cents.

Rock music is not about technic, it's about feeling. It's all about how you are able to exite and thrill people. Why do you think Nirvana went so popular? It's well known Cobain wasn't a virtuoso like Buckethead, but Cobain had the feeling, and even if I'm not a Nirvana fan, nobody can deny this. Every "big" things that happened in Rock music was a question of feeling first. When I see BH on my 2002 Video Bootlegs, I don't see a passionate guy who thrills me. I don't see a guy who gives me real emotions, a real feeling. I just see a guy who doesn't seem to care. Sometimes I even wonder if he liked what he played. To me it seems mechanical, almost robotic. If it's fine for you, ok, that's fine, but it's not the case neither for me, nor for all my friends in my entourage who also like GN'R. Thrill people, exite them, give them feeling, that's what Rock n' Roll is about. The feeling VS technic debate is not new. I have chosen my camp for a long time.

nesquick, please not again.......everyone here knows what your opinion of Buckethead is, no need to go there over and over.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Buckethead's parts are going to stay on the album because Axl and the band decided that they are important to the music, and worthwhile parts to keep on the record.

It's thier album, they would know, right?

Perhaps their will be some parts up Buckets guitar work will be replaced, and certain parts will not.  I do not believe it will be 100% erased or 100% on CD.  Certain parts could be needed on CD, but at the same token, certain solos could be erased.  Case in point, the IRS solo.  I can see that being erased because I just can't see Richard or Robin doing that solo, but certain guitar pieces that Bucket contributed to that add texture to the song might stay.   

I think its more they are not allowed to talk about it because if something changes or gets pushed back we all know how tht goes.

I think they do know what is generally going on with the album, but are very limited in what they can say because of their contractual obligations to maintain confidentiality.

I also think that the band is probably very weary of saying anything unless it is concrete, considering what has happened in the past.  Look at Tommy's recent update.  He said that there may be GN'R news made public in the near future, but he wasn't going to say until it was formal and written in at least pencil.

Ali

Nesquick what do you have to say about the madagascar solo? That is full of emotion and feeling or what about his KOHDs solo? That is just oozing feeling. As for nirvana the reason nivana got so big is because they showed that someone that cant write good songs or play guitar can make it big. Why do you think since 1993 the art of the great guitar solo was lost? It was because of the whole nirvana thing. ?But back on topic, I still hope BH comes back, he is a huge part of what made this band so damn talented.

So now you?re going to play the feeling-card again? How predictable... Bending notes way past their expiration date while pulling faces like you?re eating a box of lemons has nothing to do with emotional guitar playing. You however seem to be one of those people who have such close-minded views on music that you need these kinds of stereotypical gestures coming from a guitar player, to fulfill you?re stereotypical view on what (rock) music should be and how it should be played. I must assume you really need this nonsense, cause Buckethead played the songs spot on, there was nothing wrong with his playing. Unlike mr. Finck who still has a hard time with the mere basics of guitar playing (like playing in the right key, tempo and bending within bounds). You just hear the things you WANT to hear based on nothing but prejudicial nonsense derived from nontopics as looks and other irrelevant BS BUT MUSIC.?

What you call mechanical and robotic is the same thing other people would label as clean, onbeat and precise guitar playing, in other words: COMPETENCE, the kind of playing you may expect from a virtuoso (Thal, Satch, Lane). I really don?t know what you?re talking about, because to me and to shitloads of other people, Buckethead is one of the most emotional guitar players ever. He is known as one of the few who can really let his emotions speak through his guitar, especially since albums like Colma and Electric Tears. His work with Praxis is another example of just that, resulting in one of the best instrumental albums BY A BAND ever, Transmutation? He could have functioned similar in GNR, he?s a great collaborator. Transmutation was an album in which all important genres were blended together and executed in a way that many people still see it as one of the most incendiary guitar albums ever, which is impossible to do without recognizing the obvious emotional qualities. It was a collective effort with a star-role for Buckethead. Since you seem to want to deflect from your hypocrisies by separating the solo artist from the collaborator; ?I like Buckethead as a solo artist, but not as a member of gnr?. edit: BTW, please explain to me how you can acknowledge Buckethead?s qualities as a solo artist, but on the other hand be so convinced of the fact that his playing lacks emotion? And please don't tell me you like his technique, because you have allready made it clear that technique really isn't your cup of tea...(after all it's not what it is about according to you).

Buckethead was however new in GNR, he was still acclimatizing to the new situation (playing other people?s songs, which he really doesn?t do often), maybe coming across a little stiff and shy. People with good intentions; the ones that didn?t decide to hate him from the start, primarily based on a NONTOPIC as looks (and you know it?s true: ?I SEE this?, ?I don?t SEE that?, blablabla), could have already seen past all of this and see the real Buckethead. Doing a little research, trying to find some stuff of his earlier days in other bands. The Buckethead who runs around on stage and also expresses his passion visually (for what it's worth) next to the obvious passion he pours into his playing (which you hear). Those people could have seen the great potential the guitar player of the future could have had for Axl, who always wanted to take GNR into new and fresh directions. Furthermore, there?s something called effort to effect ratio, which means that if you want to play guitar as intense as Buckethead does, there really isn?t much energy left for stereotypical poser behavior, you seem to desire. Fact remains however that it speaks volumes about what you actually know about music if you need your eyes to tell you whether a guy is pouring his heart out on the guitar.


What a pathetic definition of RNR, ever bothered to look back and see how it all started and what it?s really all about? Your definition of this wonderful genre is representative of the close-mindedness you keep spreading on this board (looks, your assbackwards views on feeling etc..). Rock is and has always been the genre of the outcast, originating from those who dared to be different. Buckethead is a perfect example of just that (both in music as in appearance). It?s a blessing that the Rock-fans of the past were more tolerant then some of their current counterparts. Just because YOU can?t feel/APPRECIATE/RESPECT it doesn?t mean it isn?t there, broaden your horizon?

(happy now Younggunner??)? :hihi: ;)

Back to topic?? :rofl:
Anyways it?s good to hear that some of his parts will stay on the album, but as with the other comments made by band members in the past, I?ll believe it when I see it?

-PEACE-
 
PS:


Don't worry, I wasn't planning on contributing to letting this go offtopic any further (hence the last lines of the regular post). However I have every right to respond to the ignorant provocative nonsense he keeps spreading...action-reaction...

Slip, maybe the greatest "rock star" of all time, struggled mightily with what he called "gimmicks" vs. serious musicianship. In other words, Jimi Hendrix stopped doing his antics and gimmicks on stage later in his career because he felt people were not taking him seriously as an artist and musician. He stood like a statue in his concerts right before he died. Focusing directly on playing and not lighting his guitar on fire. Now, Bucket uses a lot of gimmicks, obviously the whole persona thing, but sometimes-when it is important to get the sound right- he is all business. When I saw Bucket with ccbbb he had all kind of rock star moves going. He just played in a mask without the Buckethead garb and was just rocking out all over the stage-great moves just like Hendrix. For fuck's sake, as I stated in another thread, sometimes it's good to alienate a portion of your audience-cough-cough-Nesquick types? Bucket, I want you back and a lot of other people do to.? :-[ 

 :hihi:


I know  :yes:


I know what you mean (great post, btw), but I won?t let any Nesquick type get away with stating BS like his emotion comments, especially when they state their nonsense as facts and even worse like if they speak for all the fans?

-PEACE-

My advice would be: don't loose time trying to convince me about Buckethead. I don't like him in GN'R, I never liked him in GN'R and I highly doubt I will ever like him in GN'R, simply because he doesn't give me any feeling, this is not the kind of music/musician I like, it's just not my taste. I heard his solo stuff, some songs were beautifull like "I love my parents" or "big sur moon". I never say he is not talented, HE IS, but it just doesn't work for GN'R. I never said "he is shit", I just said "he has nothing to do with GN'R". 
Final point.

If he's on the album, he will certainly have something to do with Gnr.  :hihi:

My advice would be: don?t be so arrogant to even dare to assume that I was trying to convince you.

I was merely responding to the nonsense your were presenting as facts and the self-proclaimed roll of board preacher your were putting yourself in? Why would I want to convince you? The last thing I would want after reading your nonsense is mr. Nesquick calling himself a Buckethead-fan, really.... :rofl:


Exactly, glad you finally admitted to it. Instead of grasping for straws too discredit a very talented musician on mere fantasies?

Fascinating new insights? Well what's left for you to say. I can understand your silence, there just aren?t many arguments to support wishful thinking as it seems? The fact that you totally ignore perfectly relevant arguments and still carry this discussion like everybody is just waiting for you to start spreading the gospel again, is typical?


Exactly

-PEACE-

IMO this argument over BH's talent/emotion is irrelevant to whether or not his part should be left on the album.
If he's not in the band anymore, why should he have such a major role on the album? ????

I find it hard to believe that after twelve years worth of songs that Axl can't find/re-arrange enough GREAT material to put together a PHENOMENAL album without BH parts (if he's really not in the band anymore).? :-\

BH's talent/emotion is not relevant when the topic says He's most likely on CD?

Slipdisc You're casting pearls but so are many good musicians. I doubt the certain types really read your great post...


Saul, stop taking it out on Robin. Robin is above Nes's comprehension too. His pet boy is Richard.
Isn't it time you learnt that dissing a present member doesn't call back those who left.
I don't see it bringing BH back or making him happy. I'd say it might work quiet the opposite way. You should see BH for what he is. Isn't BH a nice guy? It's obvious to me that he's not the kind who loves sissy bitchings, naggings and such. Perhaps most of negative emotions are not his metier.

As I see it, BH and Robin are the perfect duo that can interpret multiple aspects of delicate human feelings, both positive happy side and negative sloppy side, to the sublimate form.

very ?:smoking:


Because there arent any guitarists that have been with GNR since the breakup as good as Bucket. Bucket is an amzing talent and really should be in this band. If the stuff he contributed elevates the material then it should absolutely remain on the album. Izzy did the Illusions and then left. SO it can be the same here. Plus it could laways leave the window open for him to return. Seeing that the album has ?a set release and he will be credited for some of it. He might wanna reap the rewards...

I understand your viewpoint but I don't necessarily agree only because I think you're basing it on the off-chance that he might return.

BLASPHEMER!!!? It's NOT the same!!!? How can you compare the BH situation with Izzy??!?!?!!? :confused:
GET BEHIND ME SATAN!!!? :rant:

I'm aware of that reality too. I guess it's more remarkable in the metal industry.


''I'd like to take some of the old Guns fans along with me gradually into the twenty-first century.'' -Axl Rolling Stone, January 2000
He says some of =not all of :hihi:
Like, the rest are free to dwell in the past century.  :peace:

Whtehr Bucket returns or not I would hope his contributions remain on the album{only if it elevated the material}

No. I just don't want to loose time debating about Buckethead. He doesn't interested me, I don't want to waste time discussing about him. I prefer to discuss and debate about artists I like: Axl, Richard, Robin (yeah Robin, after all, I like him), Tommy, Brain, Dizzy and even Pittman. That's what the new GN'R is for me. Finally, as far as I know, Buckethead is still out of the band... : ok:

If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line. Because for a guy that doesn?t interest you, you spend an awful lot of time bringing him up.? :rofl:

You say you don?t want to discuss Buckethead, but in the meantime you can?t let any occasion go by to bash ?m. Tearing one thread after the other off topic. To make sure nobody misses your uneducated ?opinion?, as we all could see in this thread, you know shit. Nor are you able to give your nonsense any backbone. When confronted with your BS, your posts get increasingly shorter and less relevant. It?s amusing to see you trying to mask your inability to come up with decent arguments with responses like: ?He doesn't interest me, I don't want to waste time discussing him?. Well, if that?s the case, I ask you again: why do you keep bringing him up the way you do?

If you can?t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen, really?


Finally, it seems that his parts will remain on the album.. it must be hell for you? All this emotionless music ?? :rofl: : ok:

-PEACE-

PS:
If you have anything to say to me, start responding to any of my previous threads, it would be nice for a change.?

Who knows .... I dont think Dizzy or any of the other members for that matter know exactly what is going on, no more than anyone on here knows. That is what i dislike about the new "band" more than anything. I really wish there would be some sort of a press release to put an end to most of the speculation. I do for the first time in five years have the slightest hope that it is finally going to be released within the next year atleast i hope.

who really cares if bh stays on the album..? You'll buy the album and hear the music.. Wether he has emotion or looks like a tard on stage because of his bucket n mask you won't notice these things while playing your cd.. You act like axl is going to do some endles tour where you will actually get to see the people on the album live.... The chances of axl staying on tour with no problems is not very likely so to me it doesn't matter who is on the album as long as it's good because I'm not going to be viewing the people who did it live anyways..

I agree with you about the GN'R in a live setting. 

But I do hope Buckethead stays on the album.  Axl obviously saw something in him that warranted his participation, and I hope that is still used despite his departure.