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After numerous departure and arrivals from 1995 to 2004, I do think the current line-up is the best since 1993 and since the old band broke-up.
Axl, Tommy, the guitar duet Richard-Robin, Brain, Dizzy and Chris: This is solid and cohesive. It seems equilibrated for me. Coherent.
So is this the best GN'R line-up since the old band broke up? In my opinion, YES, I'm convinced.

you really like to mock all the non english people here with all you fancy words, right???

but, yeah.  its the best linu up sinec after duff and slash left. but since 93? nah...

There's nothing to base your evaluation on.

No new music, live performances, no track record of being creative as a group or cohesive as a band.

The jury is still out and will remain sequestered until they actually put something out and take the show on the road.

So you're saying this is the best lineup since the last lineup?




















Shit, I guess you're right then ;D

what? I am non english. Where do you see fancy words?  ???

The 2002 lineup is the best lineup

dude this thread is gay,   u have nothing to base anything.

the current line-up is the best, yes, that's true....

but you are not coherent with at least the 70% of your messages on various boards  :P

Well, IMHO the best lineup would be this:

Axl, Richard, Robin, Tommy, Chris, Dizzy, and Josh Freese. Don't like Brain all that much. ESP since he is so tight w/Buckethead. Makes me feel he isn't quite into things as much, but that is just a feeling may not be the truth. Also, I like Josh's image better plus he has better chops.

-= izZBo =-

Brain is a fasntastic drummer. Listen to the blues. The guy is brillant.

what different lineups do we have to choose from?

isn't this the first "full" lineup with permantent members since the breakup of '93?

Neemo, I guess that's not his point. Hes point is the band is currently cough*sans BH*cough, innit?

To me the lineup that made IRS is the best so far. The muse was with them.(metaphoric speech :P)
I'm hoping to see her on CD.(metaphoric speech :P)

We haven't seen the latest of "the current lineup" since then.
So Jury's out on all fronts. But somehow I feel all positive that we will see the best or the better one. The band won't show itself if not in great form.


No body can beat me in the fancy usage of words. so why not Join me!  :hihi:

well with that being said then ppbebe this thread is basically pointless

but to keep on topic, I think the lineup in 2002 was the best, cuz of buckethead, the guy was just too awesome, and i think its obvious that Robin/Fortus is just not as versatile as Robin/Fortus/Bucket

best gnr lineup is the only real gnr lineup and they made afd..

So the guys who did the Illusion albums and tour weren't really gnr? ???

yes they where, they just replaced the drummer and added keyboards.

gnr stopped being real gnr when Axl insisted his solo proyect was gnr.

WHOA LISTEN UP EVERYONE YA!

TOO MANY WORDS HOW?

           stop IT

We will never end up the discussion about who is good for the band, but I dont like any of the new guys And I barely like dizzy... bye

the band had more talent when Bucket was in the band. Moreover Bucket was the guy who woulda stood out had he stayed , he , behind axl woulda been the true new "star" of GNR.

My opinion.

It was a rethorical question, I wasn't really looking for an answer.

BH still could be back.

I really doubt it, what makes you think that?

Well, Axl did say there were issues left to discuss with BH in that press release 2 years ago.  Who knows, anything can happen.

Rather have BH than Finck.  :no:

I don't really care who and what they end up doing with the guitars, I just want an album and tour.. something.

Totally agree with that comment!!? : ok:

Am i right but i remember reading somewhere that pittman is only (additional keyboardplayer) touring member like zigzag big bag in UYI tour. but other than that current line up is great

you are absolutely right.

however, i must say that a lineup with zakk wilde and slash would have given me an erection. too bad it didnt work out.

 :yes:yes, todays line up IS the best.

Why the 1993 line-up?? ????

Gilby was a decent enough fill-in but he was no Izzy Stradlin'.

And while Matt was the better drummer technically, Steven was the better drummer for GN'R.

What is the current line-up?

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If you don't stop posting picture only replies, I'll have to do something about it.

#1 - It's pointless since it doesn't add anything to the discussions.
#2 - It's unoriginal and gets old quickly.




/jarmo

agree 1000%.

maybe bh would have brought to much attention as a star while it was axl's band.. Bh was a great player who defiently would have done a lot of good..

skinny puppy's replies are friggin hilarious and i nearly die laughing everytime i read them.

I think even an Axl/Slash/playback second guitar/playback bass/drum machine line-up is better than any line-up without Slash or Axl.

So THAT's why some of my posts have been altered.? I apologize.

Still, what's that saying??

"A picture paints a thousand words."? ?:yes:

With Buckethead now gone, I would agree that the present lineup is probably the most credible and my favorite since '93. There was just something about Buckethead I really disliked being attributed to GnR's legacy despite his musical talents. Ive always loved Finck and believe him and Richard have what it takes to make a good duo in today's rock world. My only other request would maybe be to get rid of Chris, I mean besides the synth and soundbites I can detect him doing dickall, and plus 6 members is an even amount ;)

They were best since 93 when BH was in the band

Sorry Jarmo  :yes:
But Holy War does have a point  :hihi: :hihi:

If the new band is so great, why doesn't their setlist include more songs?  I'm not talking about new songs here?  Look at the 2002 tour, it was AFD + NR, YCBM, 2 covers (LALD + KNHD) and OMG.  Half the songs weren't played by the old band.  Why won't they play songs like Don't Cry, Civil War, Estranged, Coma, etc.  I would rather hear those songs as opposed to Think About You (which was last played in '87), Out Ta Get Me or even Silkworms.

Just a thought...

cuz Axl was trying to get back the rock'n'roll feel of AFD era GnR. not the out of control UYI gnr. And its easy to regather old fans and generate new ones with classic songs that everyone knows. or something like that anyway.

YCBM and KOHD were old school tunes for GnR. in fact in the liner notes for AFD it says "with your bitch-slap rappin' and your cocaine tongue you get nothin' done" I have read that YCBM was supposed to be on AFD but was unfinished at the time of mixing. DC is also an old tune (I have read that it got them thier contract with Geffen)  but i'm not sure why it wasn't played. (too many slow tunes already on the setlist is my guess) LALD was impressive, his scream for that tune was awesome in 2002. NR is Axl's masterpiece, I bet he will always play that song when he performs live.

With that being said, I don't know why they didn't play You're Crazy or Anything Goes in 2002. But I bet it stems back to the MTV interview after the 2002 VMA's when Axl said that the new band re-recorded AFD but with Patience and YCBM instead of You're Crazy and Anything Goes. But again I'm just speculating on that.

Silkworms was only played one time. I guess cuz of bad reviews it wasn't ever played live again? dunno the reason for that either.

The old band was about Rock N' Roll... so going back to a point I made in another thread.  Why would Axl go back to his roots when in 96-97, he abandoned all the old players cause he wanted to make a techno/industrial record.  I don't understand...  I know there was more to it than that but it still doesn't make sense.

Thanks for your reply Neemo!

No problem, but its all just my theories of course. (its not neccesssarily true facts)

yeah the industrial thing was a rumor, but basically i think Axl just wanted to keep getting bigger and evolving and the rest of the band wanted to scale things down. but that being said, why are Slash & Duff in VR? it's all a bunch of bullshit if you ask me.

My opinion of the whole scenario? Ego's got wayyyy to fucking big and everything just imploded. they were all strung out and basically killing themselves and couldn't handle the life anymore. They grew apart. In the Behind the Music Special, someone says that it was impossible to get everyone to even talk to each other at the end

This is one of the biggest misconceptions about Axl. No1 has said he wanted to leave rnr and his roots. Axl wanted to incorporate the newer styles of music with what GNr was already doing. But to think he wanted to solely do a NIN album or abandon his style is foolish. Lets not forget whos Axls musical idols and inspirations are. Throw that in with some new stuff and we might have something

i think that the current line-up is GREAT! If its better then then anything else, is not up to me to decide..