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The following is a concert attendance figure, as reported by Billboard magazine:

Artist/Event: VELVET REVOLVER, CHEVELLE
Venue: Germain Amphitheater
City/State: Columbus, Ohio
Date: Aug. 12, 2005
Attendance: 7,506
Capacity: 20,000

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/index.aspx




/jarmo

that isn't too bad after such a long time on the road and only one album out :smoking:

And if you look at the other shows at blabbermouth.net like motley crue for example:

Artist/Event: M?TLEY CR?E
Venue: Post-Gazette Pavilion at Star Lake
City/State: Burgettstown, Pa.
Date: Aug. 30, 2005
Attendance: 10,559
Capacity: 23,081

their almost getting the same amount of people to their concerts :)

But overall, all those attendance figures are pretty sad, it's always sad to see rock/metal do so bad over there in the US

they are not a 20,000 seater band it's that simple..

I'd say 7k at a gig was pretty good, how many bands play to hundreds and not thousands of people?

VR are booking arenas that are far too big, i think their egos need to be reigned in

Doesn't have anything to do with their egos, which by the way, they definitely need to be reigned in, it has more to be with the greedy promoters trying to make as much money as they possibly can. They've been on the road now for how long now? 18 months? out of those, maybe 14 months have been domestic gigs. Why that many? This is their first album! Yes, it has been successful, but do they really need to keep on touring? The album has been out of the top 40 now for 6 months...they don't even have a single anymore. Go home guys and get some rest.

I'm agreeing, unless they just want to tour and don't care about their ,ainstream sucess at the moment.. They were always about just getting out and touring.. Anyways we know they will be back in the studio selecting songs and making the album which I read was coming around march 2006..

The high ticket prices with the high gas prices in the U.S. are really hurting concert attendance.  Hell, I haven't attended a concert since VR in October of 04.  And I used to attend alot of concerts...but I am seeing the slide guitar master Roy Rogers next month. :beer:

Ticket prices sure don't affect bands like U2 or even Green Day who have sold out every show they've played this year so far. And their tickets were probably more expensive than VR's.

Truth is in some markets, VR is not strong enough yet to sell out arenas.

Gas prices were not that high around the begenning of aughust. Its just that VR dont have a big enough fan base yet to play big arenas.

exactly dude

Well I think, that one problem is that Rock n Roll, is no longer considered as a mainstream, interest, since Hip hop and other black rhytms are the "coolest thing" well Bands like Vr, are not going to sell out stadiums yet...

VR is not big enough. That's it. They sold what? 3 million copies of Contraband within 2 years? and after that you really think they would sell out arenas? You dream. They never had a Top 40 single (I mean in the REAL charts). Open your eyes, ok there are Slash, Duff and Matt, but their album is just not good enough to bring so much people. It has nothing to do with Rock music (Oasis sell out 70.000 stadiums capacity this summer, U2 played in front of hundreds of thounsands people this summer, 2x80.000 people in Paris= 160.000 people, Rock music is still very strong) , last summer metallica played in front of 50.000 people in Paris, same for the red hot chilli peppers...and so on...VR is just not good enough and not big enough. That's it.

3 million copies worldwide within 2 years is weak. I don't call it a "success". It's already good for them, but don't expect 20.000 people to see them. They just have 1 album. and this album ain't that great overall.

look at the band syou named, metallica, rhcp. u-2, oasis.. All big and huge bands.. Like they were all headlining the world their first years.. :hihi: Cb has been out since june 2004, hardly 2 years.. Either way the album is done and stop acting like because it wasn't a fav of yours or didn't sell the proper number of albums it's not a success...
real charts.. ha.. the charts they were on were among their peers in the same field.. You expect way to much and held them to such a standard that it's complete bullshit..

No one is looking for them to play 20,000 seaters.. people on these forums are jaded

They've been on the road for over a year. ::)

And your point is? U2 can consistantly pack arenas no matter how long they have been on tour. Its got to do with the fan base, and quite frankly VR just dont have the fan base to play arenas in certain places.

I saw them 4 times in a year in my area..... That is alot of times to play.  Most people aren't like me and would go to all of them. I think if they played everywhere once or twice attendance would have been better. They still did pretty good though.  They should stick to smaller venues that hold around 5,000...

Name a rock band that has come out this decade that has sold more than 2 million copies of an album... The only ones I can think of are the Killers and Audioslave (off topic, they are about to go on a full headlining arena tour on their second album).

I'd call Contraband a success, they may not be able to sell 20,000 tickets, but they can draw crowds bigger than 2,000 seat clubs (I think the show in Toronto had an attendace of 10,000+) and that is off one album.

Velvet Revolver is one of (if not THE) most popular rock band to come out in the 2000s... they didn't have a sold out tour of arenas, but they are definetaly a success (and are only getting started).

I'm happy the attendance figures are low for two reasons.  One, the less successful VR are, the more likely a future reunion is.  This is not to say VR has been unsuccessful.  Also, if they can't sell that many tickets to these big venues, they might consider playing smaller ones.  During the summer of '04 they played clubs and stuff.  I saw them on that tour and it was a way better show.  Small venue shows are so much better than big arena or ampitheater shows.  I wish all my favorite bands played small clubs.

Let's see, VR released their first record 2004, when did U2? 1980
VR has 1 record, U2 has ~20?
Maybe you can figure out why U2 packs arenas, no matter how long they've been on tour.

That still dont mean anything. Slash duff and matt were in guns and are famous same as scott. With their combined fame, they should at least be able to sell out their shows. It just proves they dont have as big of a fan base as they think (ego's are playing a part in this). They need to stick to 5000 seat venues and under.

CB, you really don't want me to dig out the attendance figures for the final arena leg of the UYI tour in America, okay. VR ain't U2. And their fanbase is big enough to get a special guest slot on the Ozzfest. In the UK and USA.

At the end of the day, you can only tour for so long. As GN'R found out in the last 8 months of the UYI tour. : ok:

And U2 make radio friendly music while VR don't.

Anyway, I think they're doin' pretty good. They are not an arena band yet, maybe they'll never be, but rock harder than anyone out there. :yes:

Yeah, "Fall To Pieces" and "You Got No Right" are extremely "un-radio friendly"....  ::)


U2 is one of the biggest bands in the world, VR isn't. That's the difference.



/jarmo

Well its just a matter of time, before they conquer the world  8)  :smoking:

Slither and DLT wasn't radio friendly, and as far as I know, YGNR wasn't released as a single.

I know you like U2 (though IMO they're really boring and sell-outs), but one of the reasons why they're so big is being radio friendly. (And BTW they have a really strong marketing machine behind the band.) I agree that they are much much bigger than VR, that Bono is a unique frontman, but could you imagine grandmas goin' to a VR show? But U2?

You said they make radio friendly music while VR doesn't. I pointed out that VR has radio friendly songs as well.

I just pointed out the inaccurancy in your statement.

Now, if you had said "U2 releases radio friendly singles", that would've been different.


By the way, not everything they do is radio friendly.




/jarmo

Office Frank Serpico:  VR songs are not "radio-friendly"?  What's that supposed to mean?  And U2's been around for a long time now and had a chance to become as big as they are.  Another difference.

when I went to see vr at jone's beach there was about 14 thousand plus out of about 15 thousand.. I think location depends on atendance as well.. Something like msg would sell out, but something in madison WI probably won't get more then 5-6 k

I'm afraid I can't explain it better. U2's music is softer than VR's and more people can enjoy it since it has something in common with rock and pop (and sometimes techno  ;)) and a U2 song would never explode a radio speaker. VR is a hard rock band with a lot of punk vibe but not the Green Day type disco punk.


Yes, you are right, but I think VR will never be as big as U2. Even GN'R wouldn't have grown that big if they hadn't released a lot of 'radio-friendly' songs.

I guess I can see what you mean, but I like that hard rock with a lot of punk vibe.? But yet, there's a lot of radio stations that play Pantera or Slipknot, and that's really exploding the speakers, I think.? Plus, I think GnR would have grown to be huge had they stayed together and persevered,? like Stones or Aerosmith.? That's just what I'd like to think. :)

Back on track, I don't know what it's like anywhere else in the USA.? I live in Michigan, and some of the bigger name radio bands are playing smaller venues, clubs, theatres.? It's difficult to fill an arena in this day and age, with concert tickets as pricey as they are.? Bigger names come to the Palace in Auburn Hills.? VR played there, and although they didn't sell it out, I'd guess there was around 10,000 peple there.? So they've grown bigger than small clubs.? ? ?

Just want to say, i am a true fan of GNR and that includes all of them, no matter what they are doing now!  I appreciate VR and what they have done.  a bunch of guys pooling their talents, and trying to cause something!!!!  My family of four went to see them in the spring, paid 125.00 a seat.  excellent seats.  Made a huge banner, welcoming all them back, Slash and Duff both came to our end of the stage and acknowledged us.  It was so worth seeing them again.  I'll take what ever all of them have to offer,  enjoy what you can, but waiting for a reunion will be like waiting for CHINESE DEMECROCY.!!!!!


                                                        msaxl43

U can really tell VR haters from a mile away

why are people even comparing VR to U2?

Here is the ultimate question and we can put this silly VR hating to bed.


Did Metallica,GNR,U2,Aerosmith,Bon Jovi,RHCP etc etc etc sell out 20,000 seat stadiums after they released one album?


NO


case closed

u cant compare a band with one album to bands who have been around forever.

Do u think 20,000 people pack arenas to hear U2 sing the new songs?

most of those people are there for the nostalgia and to hear the hits.


stop the VR hating, I think their tour was still wayyyyyyyy more successful than Axl's was.


Let me stop the contradiction before someone posts it

True VR have one album out but u guys have already made it clear in your VR hating that that doesnt matter.

Maybe Slash and Scott should pose infront of every world leader they can and discuss the World Bank. Maybe then VR would be huge.

Thank you for a very positive post!!  They do put on a good show.  And they did well on their tour, going from playing clubs to playing arenas - sold out or not. 

So, in other words, about the same number and percentage that the new GNR was averaging in 2002.

I think, anymore, maybe it's difficult to sell out arenas.  Tickets are expensive.  People can't afford it.  So maybe that's an average show. 

The Palace in Auburn Hills, Michigan, is advertising Aerosmith at $60.00 to $125.00 a ticket.  Paul McCartney  - $100 to $250.00 a ticket.  That's crazy!

It makes a big difference, there's people going to see U2 that don't even have, or give a shit about the new album. They're just going there to hear One or Sunday Bloody Sunday.

gnr sold out arenas without having more than one album out. (at least with having one album and one ep out)

and why do you think that axl`s tour wasn`t that succesful?? imo it was at least as succesful as the vr tour. ( well ...  without two riots and a sudden stop...)  but i guess you`re talking about the ticket sales. so considered that axl`s only promotion was the gnr name and his own name and there wasn`t something like a real promotion it did very well i think. everyone knew that slash and duff left the band and the concert reviews weren`t that kind.     by the way i don`t want to start a discussion here  :beer:

VR are going along steadily, attendences will pick up (not that they are too bad anyway) after the next album (not that they have been bad) They justified a 2nd place slot (behind sabbath & above anthrax) at Download festival in the UK. They are never gonna fill stadiums (well not for a while) Its the old thing again where people are just comparing them to guns n roses. Velvet Revolver are a solid act