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Some people here are always claiming that Snakepit sucked. It's time for them to give it a try. Or another try. Download Shine and Good to be Alive from www.slashonline.com

It's pure fuckin' rock and roll. Simply amazing, two of Slash's best works ever. Those killer riffs and solos  :drool: (that I miss in VR but that's another story)  : ok:

I like Snakepit's second album but not their first.

"Serial Killer" has one of Slash's best solos ever.  there are overall some great riffs on the 2nd album.  the first one was too much of a jam session to be a good album.

didnt like the first, but got the japanese import of aint life grand.

if youre gonna get the album, get it form japan, the bonus tracks are two of the best on the album.

I only have the first album, and its grown on me over time.  I'm not at all familiar with the second album.

I could never get into the 2nd album at all. The first one had a few decent tracks , as Rob said it did grow on me over time as well, but i just couldnt get into it like i did Duff, Izzy and Gilby's solo stuff. 'Aint Life Grand' did have some damn good guitar work but the songs are weak and the singer just ruined it for me. I thought Eric Dover sounded decent on 'It's Five O'Clock Somewhere'. If i still had 'Aint Life Grand' i would give it a few more spins, i honestly tried to like it but the vocals imo suck. Sorry :peace:

Thanks man, I was lookin for stuff to put on my ipod  : ok:
I like Beggars and Hangers on, but I really love Shine.  Does anyone have a proper version of Shine they could post by the way...  Thanks  :hihi:

Wasn't real thrilled by the first version.  Loved the 2nd CD - pure rock n' roll.

both singers are very..... er, different. but rod jackson is better.

i preffer the first album, more blues.

I think the first one was a damn fine album. Some of those tunes really kicked as and I still listen to them today.. I hated the second version of Snakepit though and I had high expectations for them too... Rod Jackson was terrible and his lyrics were even worse....

Aint Life Grand fucking rocks!

I like the first album, I don't like the rest of the band on Snakepit 2, just Slash.

The guitar playing on the first snakepit album is one of slash's finest moments.

OK,  this is the 50th or so time I am anwering Snakepit bashers or some other fans who may be interested in Snakepit lbums.
Snakepit 2 isnot good,  it is excellent piuece of work both musically and lyricaly!
It is the most mature piece of work Slash ever did and I would always prefer it over Contrabend.
Actually,  many may disagree due to nostalgia,   Ain't life grand IS more mature even over GNR albums where we all lkearned to love the guys.
Top to bottom - excellent piece of work.
Also,   It's 5 o'clock...,  is the most underrated album along with Pumpkins' Adore.
People here are just to bious.
Axl lovers bash the rest.
Steven lovers bash Matt.
GNR lovers bash Snakepit.
Get a life!
Axl was a dick to everyone (not only to his bandmates,  in fact,  yes,  even to you!  He is the reason you don't have any GNR tunes since 91,   not the guys),  so they left him.
Matt is way better drummer and person who fit in where Steven HAS let the band down,  remember,  there wouldn't be any IYI tour 91-93 if it was for Steven and not Matt.
Snakepit is the next steep in life of a person who was forced to leave just like the rest of the band.
Imagine,  you leave the job,  find a better one,  do your best and someone constantly bashes you cause one who does totally different thing,  prefers you work in your old company.
Get a life and ACCEPT things.

GNR - Croatia, no one here was bashing anything!!  Most of the comments were very positive.  The first post was an invite to listen to Good to be Alive and Shine, because they are good songs.  Some comments were made that one album was preferred over another, maybe, but everyone has different tastes and it's only an opinion.  No one said anything about not liking Snakepit or compared anything to GnR.  You are the one who came on here and started bashing everyone from GnR and brought it up, and then went on to say you preferred Ain't Life Grand over Contraband.   So to take what you said one step further, Contraband is the next step in Slash's career, so he's again doing his best on a totally different thing and you're saying you prefer his work in his "old company".     

Maybe things have been said under other topics, but nothing close to any bashing was stated here, except by yourself.     

GNR - Croatia, Just fucking chill dude, you are making no sense at all!
You're the only one doing all the bashing in this thread, you are totally obsessed with matt aren't you?, you bring his name up in almost every single post you make why ???....

Back on topic..

I have to agree with GNR - Croatia that the second snakepit album sounds maturer then the first one, altough I like the first one better....I'll take the snakepit albums over contraband anyday  :beer:

Lynn and Grouse - you have obviously,  FAR misunderstood the thread.
As you could read in the first sentence,  I welcomed this thread.
In fact,  as you read the whole thing I posted,   you could notice that I wasn't refering to this topic but this forum in general.
I welcomed that people said ALG was an great album cause for years now,  I 'fought' on this board like a lone rider that both Snakepit albums (but especially ALG) are excellent pieces of work and people on different threads kept on bashing without even knowing the names of the songs and it was therefore,  very questionable was it because of their taste/oppinions or because of Axl vs the rest of the world animosity.

The same goes for 'my' Matt Sorum (like one of you mentioned foolishly ironiacally).
The guy keeps on gettng bashed on most topics compared to Adler or Brain but people seem to forget that
a)  Brain is nbot an official drummer yet as no GNR record has been made after TSI yet.
b)  Everyone has different taste
Though,   ppl mostly bash Matt as if he took Adlers position an no other argument is being issued most of the time...
Well,  he was the ONE who made the most successive GNR tour EVER happen.

Finally,   as you obviously haven't read most of the topics I reffered too,  I am not bashing others.
I am ALWAYS taking sides of Slash,  Duff,  Matt,  Gilby,  Izzy  not only cause they were the band I got into 15 years ago,  but because as of 94 I consider GNR as RIP.
Axl'  band is not GNR in any way what so ever IMO.
Not only is it missing the people who made GNR what it stood for,  but he even changed from Blues rock they stood for (kinda Led Zeppelin style) to Nu metal (kinda Limp Biskit style).
Many here call former band members names (some call Slash a liar as someone opened up an topic somewhere...),  well,   without having any right to do so,  I can't listen to that crap.

Yes,  Contrabend is an steep foreward in Slash' life,  but as everyone who has ears and no shoes on top of them can hear,  it just isn't Slash - to quote Gilby Clarke.
I am fine with it,  though,  IMO,  it is just mediocre  / average piece of work comapred to his Snakepit days. 

i love it's 5 o'clock somewhere great tunes, the solo on back and fourth is amazing. i love the vocals. awsome cd. the 2nd  is great 2. i just like i5ocs better : ok:

dude I wasn't trying to insult you in anyway, I was merely saying that no one had bashed snakepit in this thread so I really don't understand why you we're getting all defensive like that:

see what I mean by defensive


I only asked you why you always feel the need to bring his name up in your posts, Ok you like the guy that's clear however it's pointless to talk about matt in your post while he's got nothing to do with this topic to begin with IMO

GNR-CROATIA, I didn't misunderstand this thread.  No one bashed anyone here, and was actually supporting Snakepit.  You welcomed this thread by stating, "OK, this is the 50th or so time I am answering Snakepit bashers or some other fans who may be interested in Snakepit albums."?  That's not welcoming, it's confrontational.

I do agree, however, that this forum in general (and many other forums) does bash a lot of different people one way or the other but, like you said, everyone has different tastes.  I don't like the bashing either, but that's what people are going to do.  I've been guilty of it, myself.  You have your diehards who only like the original version and others who can handle the breakup of the original Gunners and move on with them and others that stay with Axl no matter what he does. 

I agree with you about all your statements about Matt and about Axl's current version.  But, see?  We all have our opinions.  You don't like Contraband as much as Snakepit.  You called it average.  That is just your own opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own, and I still think you are comparing too much with his past work.  VR is a different band with a different vibe then either GnR or Snakepit, and he plays with that vibe. 

I love both 5 oclock and alg slash really plays great.. I will have to agree it is common to bash snakepit *guess because axl wasn't involved*. Rod jackson simply rocks his ass off and slash solos n riffs were kick ass. Real great rock album, very underrated..

Lynn and/or Grouse.
No point in expressing yourself as I never took it as insults but as missunderstanding.
Grouse,   quiting '...50th time I am answering Snakepit bashers or fans who may be interestied in it on this forum' - meaning,   this is the 50th topic about the same subject - not getting defensive,  but as I said,  very happy that someone opened up a positive topic about it.
Usually,  people go on the 'Pit in some 'axl vs slash',  matt vs adler topic saying that Slash hasnćt done anything worthy since GNR days.
Anyway,   since both you and I are just saying same thing for two days.
Let's cut it short.

Agreed.  I don't like any arguing back & forth in forums, anyway,  so I'll stop.  Just had to get my 2 cents worth in, but I do see where you are coming from, and thanks for your honest responses.  So, we'll put it behind us and move on!  We'll keep this as a positive topic this time.  :peace:     

ALG is a really underrated album.  It rocks, but it's the kind of rock n' roll that I like - kick ass.  I liked Rod Jackson, actually, although he just kind of faded away back into oblivion, didn't he?  My favorite song is Mean Bone.   

Well... Don't ask me choose a tune or two off ALG cause I honestly think there are too many and I can't be objective about that.
Back to the moment,   Been there lately,  Shine,  Mean bone,  ALG, Landslide...
If I missed out any,  I could be wrong.
As far as underrated albums go,  I have to go back to It's 5 o'clock...,  manz great tunes from What do you want to be,  Neither can I,  Lower,  Beggars ang hangers on,   Be the ball...,  again very,  very good album that for some unknown reason went down or has not been discovered yet,  despite the fact 11 years have passed.
I  prefer to say that not only Rod and Slash were good,  but it was a bend that everyone just fit in perfectly and played like some other great band, despite the fact only Slash has been a part of an major rock extravaganza till then.
Back im march,  I met another one of 'mine' - Gilby.
He plyed here with MC5 and I met him both during rehersal and after the gig.
We had a long chat about both ex Gunners and Snakepit.
He has not only surprised me how openly he could talk about them to an total stranger,   but he also mentioned that he plays very often with Johnny Griparic (now this one is really mine.  My countryman.),  and that Johnny,  Rod and Ryan Roxie (who is also Gilbys friend), play together most of the time together in California.
True,  he also mentioned that Roxie married a girl from Sweden and will be moving to Europe,   so I guess there might be more chances in seeing him in 80' rock band EUROPE who are also back meanwhile :)
Just like Lynn,  I was too impressed with Rod's vocal abilities up to the point that I am still convinced that Rod was by far the greatest singer Slash worked till today' day.

Hi guys how are yoiu doing, I honestly think the first Snakepit album, was better than the second one for me, but what is certainly truth, is that both are great..

I listened to IFOS last night and think it's held up really well. Great production (better than UYI) and Slash's playing is amazing.

i like both albums but i liked eric drover better, rod jackson didnt do it for me at all

Coincidentally, I listened to some of it yesterday for the first time in well over a year, and made that same observation about the production.

It's amazing what happens in a mere 3.5 years or so, but the technology was really so much better in '95 than in '91.

i only recently started listening to the first album again..i really like it...a lot of great guitar work, lots of variation within the songs but the singer could have been better

I agree with a lot of you guys, the second snakepit album is one of the best projects that Slash has been a part of. I think as a whole cd it is much stronger than contraband was. I never skip any songs on Ain't Life Grand but I find myself skipping through 4 or 5 songs on contraband constantly. Slash's work on the Snakepit albums was just much more complex and technically intricate then his solo's on contraband. Some people say Slash has lost his touch but I think that is bull shit. I think he is just not on the same page with Scott as much lyrically so when he works on solo's I think he just creates things differently to better fit what Scott is doing. On contraband all of my favorite tracks are the slower tracks that seem to have more of a clear train of thought. Take for example You got no right and Fall to Peices, I think they are two of the stronger tracks on the album and they lyrically follow more of a more understandable thought patter. To contrast this other songs like Sucker Train Blues are more in your face and a lot of the lyrics are not understood by most people. The lyrics "its been a long year since you've been gone, been a long year of gowin old" are more understandable then "somebody rapped my tapeworm abortion come on motherfuckers its the miracele mile."

Im curious to see what Slash does on Libertad, I really like She Build's Quick Machines but again its one of those songs where it is not as lyrically coherent. Either way though VR is a pretty decent band but right now I don't think that they are better than Snakepit. Since Audioslave recently broke up I have started to wonder if all of the "supergroups" will not last. If VR ever does break up I hope Matt, Slash, and Duff make a new Snakepit. Hell speaking of Audioslave I think Slash and Chris Cornell could crank out a great album except Cornell has since said that he does not think he needs a band anymore. I still like to think though that if Slash ever gave him a call, Cornell would be smart enough to say hell yes. That a different topic though and back to the original point I still think that VR will continue to grow but a part of my would like to have seen another album from snakepit with the same lineup as the guys from Ain't Life Grand.

Both Snakepit albums have grown on me a lot. Each has some bad-ass guitar work. Sometimes I find the lyrics a little on the cheesy side, but overall I recommend people listen to them a bunch of times before they make any sort of judgement on them.

I'd like Slash to do a solo album with different musicians and vocalists. I'd love to hear him work with Iggy Pop, David Johansen of the New York Dolls along with some newer guys like Chris Cornell.

Too bad the albums still aren't available for download. :-[

Version 1 I think made a great album that is among the best of the ex-members solo work. ALG I didn't like at all, mainly because of Jackson's vocals.

I think you can get the first one on itunes these days.


Anyway....I LOVE the first snakepit album...one of the best records ever I think, to me it basicly sounds kinda like how AFD might have if GNR hadn't had axl. That is killer riffs and solos....and average singing thats still pretty cool.

When i first heard the 2nd album at first i was disapointed cos I'd expected another album the same as the first one...like old school rock...but then i grew to love some of the riffs and stuff on it too...and theres some amazing work...like serial killer...wow....but I do find rod jackson's voice kinda irritating...then again he was cool live...so hard to say.....

Great albums anyway!

I love ALG.  I actually like Rod Jackson's vocals.  I think it's a great album.  Love it. 

Is Monkeychow, by any chance, your favorite song off the album?? ?:hihi: (not insulting, just trying to be stupidly funny)

^  :hihi:

Yeah guess it was obvious i wasn't going to post a negative snakepit review!!

yeah i love my namesake, and also "Soma City Ward" and "Dime Store Rock" (and the rest of the album lol) but those songs rock so hard....

Don't get me salivating about how if Axl had sung on the record...it'd be like the #1 album ever if you throw in Axl's more complex lyrics and awesome singing style with those killer riffs. (Monkeychow goes off into fantasy land)... :drool:

Funny!

I'm not that sold, on the first one, but I didn't hear it, when it first came out - it was years later.   But, I do understand the whole thing about it being the first one released, right in the middle of GnR, and how it was material that should have been that, but wasn't.  It's still a good album, the more I listen to it.  It's really a shame that things broke down, so much, at that point, that it wasn't incorporated with Axl's ideas and could have been the next GnR album.  Wasn't meant to be, I guess.....

I think Snakepit was an excellent band with both of its vocalists...  I like it more than most GNR songs and VR and had an excellent live feeling...