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Title: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 18, 2005, 05:13:38 PM
Posted by Tommy's webmaster on the mailinglist:

============TOMMY UPDATE========

Sept. 18

Sorry my peeps for being so out of touch. Been working on a few
different things that have kept me slightly in over my head.

First off, I've been writing songs and music for a movie called
Catch and Release with Jennifer Garner for Sony Pictures. It's taken
me a few years to land one of these and I'm stoked to be doing it.
I'm told the movie will come out next spring.

Also been working on finishing the Bobot Adrenaline record. This has
been a labor of love that's been going on since last summer and I'm
just about done mixing it.

And lastly, but not at all leastly, I've been learning some Soul
Asylum songs for a show in N.Y.C on Oct.26th at the Bowery Ballroom.
Yep, I'll be filling in for Karl. I'm told he would have wanted it
this way so this is for him as well as Danny, Dave and Mary Beth. At
the moment, that's all I know for certain.

I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til
it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.
Sorry........Stay tuned.

Tommy



Catch and Release (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395495/) info @ IMDb.com


/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Falcon on September 18, 2005, 05:16:55 PM
Posted by Tommy's webmaster on the mailinglist:

============TOMMY UPDATE========

Sept. 18

Sorry my peeps for being so out of touch. Been working on a few
different things that have kept me slightly in over my head.

First off, I've been writing songs and music for a movie called
Catch and Release with Jennifer Garner for Sony Pictures. It's taken
me a few years to land one of these and I'm stoked to be doing it.
I'm told the movie will come out next spring.

Also been working on finishing the Bobot Adrenaline record. This has
been a labor of love that's been going on since last summer and I'm
just about done mixing it.

And lastly, but not at all leastly, I've been learning some Soul
Asylum songs for a show in N.Y.C on Oct.26th at the Bowery Ballroom.
Yep, I'll be filling in for Karl. I'm told he would have wanted it
this way so this is for him as well as Danny, Dave and Mary Beth. At
the moment, that's all I know for certain.

I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til
it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.
Sorry........Stay tuned.

Tommy






/jarmo

Nice to hear from Tommy, thanks Jarmo  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: spacebrain5000 on September 18, 2005, 05:17:12 PM
*stays tuned*


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 18, 2005, 05:18:05 PM
Beat me to it LOL
Well lets hope its an album update. Hopefully 2005 still might be the  year.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: KillYourIdols on September 18, 2005, 05:22:14 PM
 :drool:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: audjon on September 18, 2005, 05:27:51 PM

I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til
it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.
Sorry........Stay tuned.

Tommy

/jarmo

So, soon is the word, maybe... or not.
Ah, these words keep me 'tuned' for another year or so.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Evolution on September 18, 2005, 05:32:05 PM
Like i said before, take with a pinch a salt but this is great stuff, good to hear Tommy is keeping busy.

Hopefully this is the ball perhaps almost in motion ;D


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 18, 2005, 05:34:26 PM
Well Tommy said there could be news soon, and Fortus has cancelled his Nov Dates with Nena, so something must be up.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DunkinDave on September 18, 2005, 05:44:04 PM
Quote
I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.

Oh man, sounds like the news is only a hair's breadth away.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dolphin on September 18, 2005, 05:45:14 PM
see and everyone thinks that the members of GNR are just sitting around and doing nothing......on retainer from Axl.

Glad to see Tommy has been busy doing other things outside of GNR. ?Just shows you that Axl has some real quality members that are diversified.

Thanks for sharing. ?Finally some REAL official news other than speculation and pure bullshit and or rumors.

Who gives a fuck what year GNR make a comeback. ?I am in it for the long haul. : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: rainX on September 18, 2005, 05:46:25 PM
see and everyone thinks that the members of GNR are just sitting around and doing nothing......on retainer from Axl.

Glad to see Tommy has been busy doing other things outside of GNR.  Just shows you that Axl has some real quality members that are diversified.

Thanks for sharing.  Finally some REAL official news other than speculation and pure bullshit and or rumors.

Who gives a fuck what year GNR make a comeback.  I am in it for the long haul. : ok:

right on dude!


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dolphin on September 18, 2005, 05:48:42 PM
see and everyone thinks that the members of GNR are just sitting around and doing nothing......on retainer from Axl.

Glad to see Tommy has been busy doing other things outside of GNR.? Just shows you that Axl has some real quality members that are diversified.

Thanks for sharing.? Finally some REAL official news other than speculation and pure bullshit and or rumors.

Who gives a fuck what year GNR make a comeback.? I am in it for the long haul. : ok:

right on dude!



dudette, but it's all good :D


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DunkinDave on September 18, 2005, 05:55:40 PM
I'd guess it's either news regarding the album or an announcement that GNR is playing Rock In Rio V this coming spring.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 18, 2005, 06:00:51 PM
I'd guess it's either news regarding the album or an announcement that GNR is playing Rock In Rio V this coming spring.

or both.
The best news would be an album release date, a tour date, RIR5, and they will be on the DVC soundtrack. Yes I am that greedy.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: MeanBone on September 18, 2005, 06:02:08 PM
wow he got a big movie soundtrack score! way 2 go tommy!


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Evolution on September 18, 2005, 06:05:35 PM
I'd guess it's either news regarding the album or an announcement that GNR is playing Rock In Rio V this coming spring.

or both.
The best news would be an album release date, a tour date, RIR5, and they will be on the DVC soundtrack. Yes I am that greedy.

That would be Christmas x16


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: GypsySoul on September 18, 2005, 06:16:20 PM
Quote from: Tommy
I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips aresealed.
Sorry........Stay tuned.

Tommy

How the fuck is that keeping your lips sealed??!?!??!! :rant:

Why the fuck did he say anything at all if he still isn't gonna say anything??!!??? :rant:

"Sorry" don't cut the mustard, mister!? :rant:


P.S.? Congratulations to Tommy on all those other things.? :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: killingvector on September 18, 2005, 06:19:04 PM
coming soon is what? six months? ten months in gnr tongue.

I hear they measure the sideral century as the length to an Axl Rose related release date divided by Pi.  :P


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: nesquick on September 18, 2005, 06:34:27 PM
That's very interesting coming from tommy. I bet anything RIR is right around the corner, and maybe more (album release, DVC soundtrack)


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: ppbebe on September 18, 2005, 06:34:52 PM
Good news on all fronts.

Seemingly GN'R members are experienced in doing movie music.  ;)

And  I for the first time see any update about GN'R on a member's official site.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Pandora on September 18, 2005, 06:37:51 PM
Well, that's better than no news at all I guess  ;D

Besides, knowing that band members are keeping themselves busy is always a good thing as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: rainX on September 18, 2005, 06:38:17 PM
Good news on all fronts.

Seemingly GN'R members are experienced in doing movie music.  ;)

And  I for the first time see any update about GN'R on a member's official site.

Missed Robin's post early this summer?


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Kitano on September 18, 2005, 06:57:37 PM
It looks promising but we've seen other promising statements before.  We're back to waiting again.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: MeanBone on September 18, 2005, 07:20:10 PM
i bet the news in gnr is that Axl got a moustache  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 18, 2005, 07:22:59 PM
Not really a tommy fan but I can appreciate his hard work.. he has so much going, to think all these creative days by the members could be on newer gnr songs instead of all outside work... Sucks he doesn't even know and can only say maybe or soon he hopes


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: ppbebe on September 18, 2005, 07:32:57 PM
 
Quote
Sucks he doesn't even know and can only say maybe or soon he hopes

::) Sucks you don't even know that anyone with no info wouldn't need to Keep their lips sealed.


Good news on all fronts.

Seemingly GN'R members are experienced in doing movie music.  ;)

And  I for the first time see any update about GN'R on a member's official site.

Missed Robin's post early this summer?

Well it wasn't about a "maybe" coming soon news was it?


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Saul on September 18, 2005, 07:54:58 PM
Chinese Democ .. meh , nevermind.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: killingvector on September 18, 2005, 07:56:35 PM
Even glaciers move an inch a year. I think we just saw that 2.54 centimeters of action.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 18, 2005, 07:57:40 PM
Can't wait to hear the music he's working on.  : ok:





/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Nytunz on September 18, 2005, 09:20:58 PM
Hey! Guys! This is great news! U know why? Because Tommy said something about GNR without anyone asked him about them!
Something big is gonna happen! Like Tommy said! Sooooon!

And for the people in here bashing Axl for the "Soooon" Ting! Remember! Back then Axl said soon wasnt the word! So just shut the fuck up!


 - Nytunz .


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Kitano on September 18, 2005, 09:46:27 PM
Quote
::) Sucks you don't even know that anyone with no info wouldn't need to Keep their lips sealed.



Sometimes people with the least information are those who will speak the most.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Pazzuzu on September 19, 2005, 12:09:33 AM
"...and written in at least pencil..."

Ahhhhh Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: lennonisgod on September 19, 2005, 12:23:24 AM
I say bring on Chinese Fuckin' Democracy!  It probably won't be out this year and maybe not 2006 (I really hope to God it is), but when it comes out it will be great.  The wait fucking blows, but hey, nobody is perfect.  Thanks for the update Tommy.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Christos AG on September 19, 2005, 07:20:49 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Pandora on September 19, 2005, 07:52:11 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:

That thing is a riot  :rofl:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 19, 2005, 08:51:29 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:

The last update was in april dammit, i wanted to know more about pittman  ???


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Christos AG on September 19, 2005, 08:56:33 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:

The last update was in april dammit, i wanted to know more about pittman? ???

Go to merchandise and buy his hair...  :rofl:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 19, 2005, 09:03:02 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:

The last update was in april dammit, i wanted to know more about pittman? ???

Go to merchandise and buy his hair...? :rofl:

Its not his pubic hair is it  :nervous:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: pilferk on September 19, 2005, 09:28:35 AM
For all the latest news visit www.gnroffline.tk

 :hihi:

The last update was in april dammit, i wanted to know more about pittman? ???

Actually, I think it's from July (July 4th, to be exact)....

Euro dating convention: Day, then month, then year.

:)

It's a freaking riot, though.  Love the mailing list sign up page. LOL


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 19, 2005, 10:41:41 AM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?





/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: GypsySoul on September 19, 2005, 10:48:42 AM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?

Maybe they don't have a pencil either or maybe their lips are sealed, too.? :-X




P.S.? Thanks for the update Tommy? ;D


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: AxlGunner on September 19, 2005, 10:52:21 AM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?





/jarmo

hey, it's the pot calling the kettle black.

i love that game.

jarmo, why dont you set an example for everyone?

also, while we're saying thank you to people who aren't around to hear it, i'd just like to say thank you to dr. martin luther king for all the great work he did promoting civil rights and racial equality. thank you dr. king!! wherever you are!


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: oneAXLinamillion on September 19, 2005, 11:33:15 AM
Posted by Tommy's webmaster on the mailinglist:

============TOMMY UPDATE========

Sept. 18

Sorry my peeps for being so out of touch. Been working on a few
different things that have kept me slightly in over my head.

First off, I've been writing songs and music for a movie called
Catch and Release with Jennifer Garner for Sony Pictures. It's taken
me a few years to land one of these and I'm stoked to be doing it.
I'm told the movie will come out next spring.

Also been working on finishing the Bobot Adrenaline record. This has
been a labor of love that's been going on since last summer and I'm
just about done mixing it.

And lastly, but not at all leastly, I've been learning some Soul
Asylum songs for a show in N.Y.C on Oct.26th at the Bowery Ballroom.
Yep, I'll be filling in for Karl. I'm told he would have wanted it
this way so this is for him as well as Danny, Dave and Mary Beth. At
the moment, that's all I know for certain.

I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til
it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.
Sorry........Stay tuned.

Tommy



Catch and Release (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395495/) info @ IMDb.com


/jarmo




at least we go something


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 19, 2005, 12:47:07 PM
Great news...

I really think this means something...

No more solo-stuff... Just the Soul Asylum thing.

And then a positive GNR mention...

Thanks Tommy... : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 19, 2005, 12:52:44 PM
No more solo-stuff...

There's that movie thing.....  ;D




/jarmo



Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 19, 2005, 01:18:38 PM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?





/jarmo

Thanks for the update Tommy. Although the update didn't say too much about GN'R, it comlpetely describes the current situation. I prefer this kind of update over any misleading, hype-creating updates.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 19, 2005, 01:26:48 PM
Thanks for the update Tommy. Although the update didn't say too much about GN'R, it comlpetely describes the current situation. I prefer this kind of update over any misleading, hype-creating updates.

It's better than no updates at all.





/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 19, 2005, 01:35:17 PM
Thanks for the update Tommy. Although the update didn't say too much about GN'R, it comlpetely describes the current situation. I prefer this kind of update over any misleading, hype-creating updates.

It's better than no updates at all.





/jarmo

Yes, I agree. I wasn't cynical.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: patience26 on September 19, 2005, 01:40:37 PM
Finally, some ligth at the end of the tunnel!

Thanks Tommy!


Rock on  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jarmo on September 19, 2005, 02:11:29 PM
Thanks for the update Tommy. Although the update didn't say too much about GN'R, it comlpetely describes the current situation. I prefer this kind of update over any misleading, hype-creating updates.

It's better than no updates at all.





/jarmo

Yes, I agree. I wasn't cynical.


Sorry, I know it looks like I was "attacking" you which I wasn't.


I was just saying that getting an update like this from any band member is far better than getting nothing or getting a "the show has been cancelled" update.

But I think the people who constantly whine about the lack of updates aren't really whining about the lack of updates. There's only one kind of update they really want and that's a release date. Nothing else will make them happy I guess.

Actually, I wonder if even that would make them happy....  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 19, 2005, 02:19:33 PM
No more solo-stuff...

There's that movie thing.....? ;D




/jarmo



I know.... ;)

But no new tour dates in Nov/Dec, that is a good sign, i think... :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Izzy on September 19, 2005, 02:23:28 PM
Quote
I'm told there may be news on the GNR front coming soon, but til it's formal and written in at least pencil my lips are sealed.

Oh man, sounds like the news is only a hair's breadth away.

U haven't been around here long have u?

He says the same thing every month.....


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 19, 2005, 02:49:12 PM
No, Tommy hasnt said anything in months...


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Eazy E on September 19, 2005, 03:15:12 PM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?

Maybe there's just not that many people left who care..  :nervous:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Nytunz on September 19, 2005, 03:39:27 PM
Where's all the people saying "thanks for the update Tommy"?

Maybe there's just not that many people left who care..? :nervous:

Yeah. People complains because there is now updates from GNR. And when Tommy choose to give us some positive words, people are compaining abut that too.. Damn u negative bastards...!

ps: Not you Eazy E ....  :peace:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: ppbebe on September 19, 2005, 04:15:23 PM
I imagine some concrete plans are under way. Lets hope poor Tommy n co will be able to unzip their lips again pretty soon.


Actually, I wonder if even that would make them happy....  :hihi:


I wonder if even the actual release would make them happy?or rather if they basically want to be happy.
Some ppl seem plain whine happy.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: deliverthecow on September 19, 2005, 06:19:56 PM
I would love to catch that Soul Asylum gig at the Bowery. That is a pretty intiment place to catch a gig. I seen Marc Olson and Gary Louris there back in March. I hope Stinson plays bass on the new SA record, he really fits the mold for Soul Asylum.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: blasphemer on September 19, 2005, 06:29:31 PM
Once upon a time, I read a statement.  It was over a year ago, and this man named Tommy Stinson said " CD is just hairs breath away".!! :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 19, 2005, 07:10:06 PM
Once upon a time, I read a statement.? It was over a year ago, and this man named Tommy Stinson said " CD is just hairs breath away".!! :beer:

And you wonder why the  band does not say anything to us, its because of people like you and the others that get pissy when what they say gets pushed back.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: GnFnR87 on September 19, 2005, 07:18:27 PM
Hey! Guys! This is great news! U know why? Because Tommy said something about GNR without anyone asked him about them!
Something big is gonna happen! Like Tommy said! Sooooon!
- Nytunz .

awesome!!! thats the spirit!! that's actually a really good point....


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: chineseilusions on September 19, 2005, 08:59:34 PM
Thanks for the update tommy.This shows me they do care about GNR and see it as more than a paycheck


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: blasphemer on September 19, 2005, 10:10:46 PM
im not pissy see my happy face with the beer>> :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Nytunz on September 19, 2005, 10:19:34 PM
what clues do we have now?

Fortus Not touring in November/December...
Fortus said in a mail a few months ago he hopes for some shows before the end of the year
Tommy say there is some news but he`s lips are seald
Dizzy Stop touring at the end of October
Finck is ... hum.. not doing anything with NIN.
Merck wond deny a rumour..


So i guess this dont actually mean anything. But maybe it does... Think For Yourself! Question Authoraty  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: jazjme on September 19, 2005, 10:44:46 PM
Things really seem to be fallin into place, unlike at other times, and to me that is very positive, and btw, thanks tommy. :peace:


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: sweechile on September 20, 2005, 05:28:32 AM
Thanks for the update tommy.This shows me they do care about GNR and see it as more than a paycheck


Actually,  this goes to show that it is only a paycheck that is the concern here in,  years later, the 'what are you going to do with yourself, be Bob Dylan?'  approach.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: ClintroN on September 20, 2005, 07:30:31 AM
this message from Tommy puts a smile on my face, but i've thanked him enough times from heaps of msg's.............sounds fuckin' good though......were nearly there :yes:

but at the end of the day, im still waitin' for Chinese fuckin' Democracy >:(


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: iloozion on September 20, 2005, 08:55:28 AM
i work for a company that produces console games. we've just finished a product that has a release date of late November. we've just had to rush it through to get the game into production on time (disc/box production) the actually game and all artwork is finished but to get that late november release date the product had to go to the manufacturer yesterday. the european shop orders of over 2 million were completed long ago.

now i know that console game production and music CD production are very different and maybe there's a way to rush CD prodution and distibution through quicker than for computer games..... BUT on the basis of what i have experienced (many times!) unless shops already have an order for 'Chinese Democracy' and some warehouse is producing the discs now, then it won't be out before december. And if it is to be released this year then they've only got a few weeks before they'll have to start all that. And if shops did have orders on for CD then we'd probably have heard about it by now.

don't want to put a downer or anything, and like i say it may be quicker in the world of music - but my experience of games is that the disc production takes a couple of months from finished product to release date.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: Continental Drift on September 20, 2005, 12:27:17 PM
iloozion,

What would the timetable be for a February '06 release? I think that's what we're probably looking at...


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 20, 2005, 02:45:33 PM
iloozion,

What would the timetable be for a February '06 release? I think that's what we're probably looking at...

November announcement... Saying GNR will play RIR05 and releasing C.D in early 2006... (i hope)


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: AxlGunner on September 21, 2005, 10:09:43 AM
what clues do we have now?

Fortus Not touring in November/December...
Fortus said in a mail a few months ago he hopes for some shows before the end of the year
Tommy say there is some news but he`s lips are seald
Dizzy Stop touring at the end of October
Finck is ... hum.. not doing anything with NIN.
Merck wond deny a rumour..


So i guess this dont actually mean anything. But maybe it does... Think For Yourself! Question Authoraty? : ok:

almost ALL of this happened LAST YEAR too... i wouldn't hold my breath.


Title: Re: Tommy update [September 18]
Post by: ppbebe on September 21, 2005, 01:23:39 PM
what clues do we have now?

Fortus Not touring in November/December...
Fortus said in a mail a few months ago he hopes for some shows before the end of the year
Tommy say there is some news but he`s lips are seald
Dizzy Stop touring at the end of October
Finck is ... hum.. not doing anything with NIN.
Merck wond deny a rumour..


So i guess this dont actually mean anything. But maybe it does... Think For Yourself! Question Authoraty  : ok:

almost ALL of this happened LAST YEAR too... i wouldn't hold my breath.

Yes, yes, take a breath of fresh air then let it out.
And look, There are reasons to be cheerful 1, 2, 3... in Nytunz list.

perhaps next year
or maybe even never
in either case....reasons to be cheerful

 
Lets hold a brief for the band and our potates...