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It looks as though Richard Fortus will not be doing the November Nena dates now;

He says "(It) looks like I will not be able to do the Nena tour now. I really wish I could do this tour, the band is really great & they are great people. I hate to let them down, but it is now looking like I won't be able to do it."

I wouldn't like to speculate as to the reasons why Richard Fortus cannot do these dates. I'll let you decide that one.

(source : splat)


hmmm very interesting one...

now THIS is interesting!

Isn't he set to become a father in November?




/jarmo

i don't know, but if it's the main reason, why he didn't talk about it ?

well, he is, but i guess he knew that for a month ago too.

"but it is now looking like I won't be able to do it." Something has changed. The father situation he has known about for a while...

His wife's mind?

Now this is somethin, with this CD might just surface this year, I remember someone sayin (can't remember who) that CD can't be released this year 'cos Fortus is away on tour, we'll just have to wait and see.

well, yes, it can be... But like Den said, why dident he mention anything about that? Have to be aware of bouth possabilities..

Because having a child is a personal matter and he doesn't want to talk about it?

Uhhmm.. Maybe, maybe not. Anyways im prepared..  : ok:

hm.... hm.... something's going on out there and it's certainly none of our buisness.

yes he is.. No way being sept 4th are they doing a tour in november,,...

Anyway they have to practice before touring...

This is pure speculation... :P

Lets wait and see...  ;)

From the "My Family" picture section of Richards site www.richardfortusonline.com

These are photos of me and my wife Jen, our 2 cats (brothers) Ghengus and Kubla, and our daughter, Paisley, due Nov. 1 2005


Mystery solved.

The first Nena date is November 20th.

well   i won`t hold m breath for anything, but it could mean something............ : ok:

So you think he wants to go to Europe just weeks after his first child is born?




/jarmo

sometimes being there for you family is more important than anything else. 

Well originally he planned on doing the November dates. The due-date of his wife and the first Nena gig haven't changed so why the change of plan?

Maybe his wife? Women change their minds more then Axl im afraid lol :hihi:

This is interesting..Wouldnt get my hopes up though

This is true. It's the change of plan that is interesting. Obviously Rich wanted to play the Nena dates (as he seemed to be enjoying them and got on with the band).

Richard?s daughter starts now !!

I'm sure the baby reason is valid. But I also feel there may be another reason too: Could it be the start of GN'R rehearsals/reunion/talks...for Rock in Rio 5?

Most of you don't seem to remember Rock in Rio 5 starts in just 8 month. by november, it will be in 6 month. 6 month seems to be a good planing to prepare/announce/rehearse for Rio 5 and the album. The planing seems too "perfect" to me not be taken seriously.

maybe his wife put the pressure on him to stick around after their child is born.   :hihi:

rock n' roll!

Once again, RIR5 think about it...keep an eye on this in the next few month http://rockinrio-lisboa.sapo.pt/

Or Maybe his daughter changed her mind and her due date?and is showing up weeks later than that?

i literally laughed out loud at that for like a good minute.

Was very funny!

This one was funny as well. : ok:


Edit to add: Paisley is a very cool name. Rock n' Roll!

When i first read that I thought it said Parsley!!! Must be the  :smoking:

He knew about his daughter's birth months ago.

This is something entirely new and I don't think it has anything to do with his wife.

I agree, but some how, i dont think its have anything to do with GNR.....

Please post this in the Paisley release date rumor thread.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Paisley revolution starts now!

I think about a last option: We all know Axl is very satisfied by Fortus, so maybe Richard will re-record the Buckethead parts, and/or create some new ones, and there will be the "last touch"It would take 1 week or 2. Maybe 3.

then the record is released around RIR 3- and the band starts a Tour - with this line-up:

- Axl
- Tommy
- Richard
- Robin
- Dizzy
- Brain
- pittman

Sounds possible to me.

welcome to 2005 dude!
 ;D

Merk said "this will be the year of GNR"... I think we have 99% os chances of that beeing "something" with the band

I don't think the recod will come out this year. We are already in september. Not enough time for promotion.

It's so funny and yet, i am pissed off, because you men say a baby isn't a valid reason for a man to stick around?

Well, in case you don't know, when a woman comes out of hospital, she needs a great deal of help at home.

You<all<want to "imagine" it has to do with music, but people have lifes outside of it, and i could imagine Richard's life now turns around his family enlargement more than a guitar.

There could be ANYTHING as a reason, from a baby coming down earlier than planned ( very common), from the mother in law not coming after all and Jennifer needing help with a newborn.

I REALLY think you should all stop smoking whatever makes you imagine so much.

I agree. He's a musician. Moreover, he's a working musician, a rare thing in that business. And his wife knows that. You don't marry a rock star expecting him to drop everything for months at a time whenever there is a big family event. He might have nixed a show or two for the birth of his baby, not a whole tour. I kind of think this is GNR related. That damn record has to come out sometime.

Unless he has some kind of fulltime nanny or lots of family to watch his kids he needs to be around with his wife right after the birth.. I have a kid and another soon so you need to take time off to help your wife out..

If she has a C section she needs even more help.. Nursing, post pardom depression happens.. I don't care if you are a rockstar or anything else you need to work somewhere near where your family is for a little while after the birth..

You All? I should have thought that half of the posts here said otherwise, Mademoiselle. ;)

My girlfriend and I had a daughter four months ago. I know what goes into it. I was back at work about five days after she was born. We needed money to pay the rent and have food to eat. Just because he's working doesn't mean he's not helping out during off-time.

sorry baby, you know what i wanted to say and how passionate i tend to get... :hihi: ;)

OR he will have his daughter, will have to go back to the GNR camp for some reason ( cd, recording, reunions, mkt, etc... ) and will go on tour with Nena all in the same time, NOW he just realise that he can?t do all this things by the end of the year ... so the "important thing" to him right now is his daughter and GNR

could be?

Or maybe he got a badcase of diarrhea, and hes unable to do the tour now.

well ? you`re all right when you say that his wife is needing him and that he has to be around, but he did know that 6 months ago allready i guess, so there HAVE to be other reasons than that for his decision. it`s not necessarily gn`r ?though...

WoW Warrose.  Finally someone on this forum has a brain.  People, did u forget it takes 9 months for a fuking baby to pop out.  This is not new to fortus. DUH

well, thats what i said in my first answer... There has to be something else, who is stoping him...

Fortus Paternity starts November 1st!

Going back to your 9 to 5 is a little different than spendig a few days around the baby and then going 'ok honey, time to go on tour see you in a year!' Something tells me that he would be a little hard pressed to miss the first year of his kid's life. At least us 9 to 5-ers could come home at the end of the day and at least spend a little time with the baby.

Dude he knew when his baby was comin months ago. He knew when the damn thing was comin when he agreed to tour. 

I know, the fucking nerve of some people. Axl is gonna be so mad when he has to put things on hold so Fortus can have a kid.

well, the reason why i think this is a positive sign, is because of of this quote from Ross Alfin: Merck also told me the news that the Guns 'n Roses cd is done and it rocks (not his exact words)... Well, he did say it has four rockers like Appetite For Destruction - the rest of the tracks are "challenging and epic", Meaning they're boring or Axl thinks he's joined Rush... Got to thank Merck as he did send me the T Rex Born To Boogie soundtrack, not forgetting the Led Zeppelin, sorry, I mean ELP dvd.."

And now with Richard NOT touring in November after all... hmm, yeah i think somethings up...

I am not saying his daugher is the reason but he already knew when she was due, so how could things have changed. If it had to do with his daugher, he would just say, he is not going to do them due to his daughers birth.

Also, Fortus said when he did the dates he will be doing them unless called back by Axl didnt he?

 

yeah  but i think this could change EASILY.   all we`re able to do is hoping. as always.....

yes. And one more think i find a bit interesting is, that on Interscopes site, the "Coming soon" list have made it to October. 10.11 a t.a.t.u cd will be released, so if November is the month, then we should know about it on the next update, in a few weeks... If not, i guess we can forget about November and December..

This is a good point, I'm pretty sure I've read this somewhere as well.

if it was about his kid i dont think he would have a problem tellin' us.

This is definitely good news. Maybe Axl has decided to go ahead and do it this year. He's probably getting sick of hearing about it all the time. Whenever he leaves the house he's probably asked questions about it. I have a question. Isn't Brain doing something overseas this year? Has that been cancelled also?

Brain is busy in September. He is free for the rest of the year although at one stage he was looking to line up some Praxis dates.

So, lets just wait and see if Dizzy Cancel his November dates no.. If he does, then im gonna open a bottle with something verrrrry strong..

musclor?

custic soda ...

Dizzy's last show with Hookers n Blow is scheduled for October 31st. He has no November dates to cancel.

yeah, and im damn glad for it. No caustic Soda after all...  ;D
Well, interesting. So i guess there is no one in the band who have any plans for solo work in November then? What about Brain?

and what about Tommy? is the soul asylum thing in november? and what about Brain?

i have the exact same feeling now as i had when the fake romanian consert thing went down, i'm not going to be able to fucking sleep for days!! i hope someone can kill this rumour teori fast so i can get my life back on track... i have school for gods sake and need lots of sleep... :nervous:

LoL! i guess we react on the same way! Im just sitting by my pc refreshing htgth and Fortus homepage for some news... its totaly madness! Somehow i have faith on this... alot point for a 2005 release. well, i guess i get excited about even the dumbest rumours... so...  : ok:

I think the same thing.   If he was pulling out for "personal reasons"...he would have said that.  He is pulling out of those dates for something other than his new baby.  I never utter positive words on this board, but I am tempted to on this one.

congrats to richard and family  : ok:

gnr will happen when it happens.  i dont read much into these kinds of things anymore.

Fuk that! GnR will happen now dammit!

What better way to celebrate a new member o the family than the restart of a band that will make Fortus a star. 

Maybe the baby's arrival Nov 1 is code for the return of Buckethead  :P

A couple years ago I would totally be freaking out. But over the last couple of years I have came to realize not to take everything into context that CD is coming. I have gotten used to getting over-hyped over little things and then have nothing but failure or disappointment in return. All I will say is I hope this is a sign of good things to come. Other than that I will continue to belive that maybe one day we will hear Chinese Democracy until then I will continue to browse the boards and wait for a message from Uncle Axl and I will continue to enjoy the bootlegs of old shows, and the music of the old band. Chinese Democracy may one day surface and hopefully change the face of music. Until then enjoy everyday of your life that you have and make the most out of the situations that  you have.

yes cos theyv been working so hard lately onCD, this is really gonna slow things up  ::)

hell, maybe the first single for GNR will be "baby on Board"! (the song homer simpson wrote...)like a tribute to richard and the baby ;)

remember, you can all e-mail richard yourself through his e-mail address on his official website and wish him and jen good wishes for their soon-to-be daughter, Paisley.

:)

http://www.richardfortusonline.com

I`m not agree. Bon Jovi next album is prepared for release in September 20th i think. There`s no such a think like big promotion. Madonna release new album in November. Rolling Stones tomorrow - by the way it`s great album. I think is much enought time for promotion a nd etc.

Can always hope for a 05 release! But i guess the chances are getting slimmer everyday!

That fake show "was" in Hungary. Budapest is not Bucharest.

(source : splat)


 :rofl:  :rofl:

Whats so funny...??

Sp1at did talk Richard....

In english please? :o

you're right, my bad.

anyhow, i slept fine last night, so no CD in 05 i guess....

Ha :hihi: something about promotion... All those albums coming out and everyone knows about it.. If cd was coming this year the buzz would have at least started by now or at least be known in the industry

dude if u havent noticed the buzz then u've been hiding under a rock. just cuz nothings official dont mean there aint no buzz.  radio stations have been saying cd is getting closer, articles talking about its production and its possible release in magazines and newspapers, the vh1 btm last year, more recently, the ross halfin thing, i mean come on, theres been a build up for years now.  i could go on naming shit all day.

mornintrain, I hope you spend all day tomorrow "naming shit", cause I dont see the buzz either. What tiny buzz there was over Merck's infamous statement has been dead a long time. All that talk on the radio stations earlier this year was based on a fake rumored release date. There was the Sp1at article awhile back, but that was old shit rehashed as new. Whenever band members speak about an imminent release, its just them spewing shit to keep everyone's interest. All Mysteron offers is vague statements that cant be backed up. Dude, that isn't buzz. That's just a bunch of fucking lies. If it wasn't for Richard's recent comments, the people I just mentioned would still be spewing their vague shit.

Is this English enough for you?:

BOARD RULES:

Post only in ENGLISH. If your English isn't perfect, don't worry about it, many of us are from non-English speaking countries.

Don't post simply to complain about someone else's spelling and grammar or complain about the thread itself.

i think there?s no buzz at the moment, because those rumours are goin on for years now. i mean if this was the first time rumors occured , than there was a big buzz in the media, but today noone is getting excited when he hears something about a release date, because it`s been told too often.

there's no buzz unless you call the ny time's article buzz. definetly was buzz in the very earl stages of 2000 till the vmas..

If you are a normal person not coming to gnr forums then you haven't heard any buzz,. maybe blabbermouth or metal sludge because they report everything  but I can say the people I know are still baffled by the vmas..

Anyway axl's still using the gnr names o that will create all the buzz he needs.. Most rock people know who gnr is or was so all they need to know is a new long awaited gnr album is coming out and that will be it..  Probably get his sit down smooch fest with kurt loder and the world will know..

Interesting......

Did I complain?

Was simply wondering what he was trying to say. ::)

if not complaining, there was a bit of irony in your post.

Why is is so fuckin hard??

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