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Title: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on September 02, 2005, 01:34:54 AM
08.31.05 ? Soul Asylum recruit new bass player

After the unfortunate passing of Soul Asylum bassist Karl Mueller it seemed that the band may call it quits but not Soul Asylum! No way! They've recruited former Replacements member Tommy Stinson. A new album should be out possibly in 2005.?

http://www.silentuproar.com/news/index.php

Thanks to Holtz, Todd



Edit: He's just playing two shows with them and is still in GN'R.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Skeba on September 02, 2005, 01:37:51 AM
Wow... Didn't see that one coming. Too bad they don't have more info on what kind of a deal we're talking about here. If it 's a session type of thing, or if he'll be touring also.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: killingvector on September 02, 2005, 01:46:35 AM
 ???

My god, please be a huge mistake. This doesn't sound promising if true.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: cineater on September 02, 2005, 01:47:26 AM
Cool. ?Tommy works his ass off.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: ClintroN on September 02, 2005, 01:52:51 AM
fuck this >:(


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Falcon on September 02, 2005, 01:56:42 AM
Souls Asylum and The Mat's are from the same scene, it makes sense for all involved.

With GNR inactive, Tommy shouldn't be blamed for wanting to work/perform.





Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: killingvector on September 02, 2005, 02:00:02 AM
Souls Asylum and The Mat's are from the same scene, it makes sense for all involved.

With GNR inactive, Tommy shouldn't be blamed for wanting to work/perform.





No, you are right, but this would indicate a substantial period of activity away from GnR. Perhaps indefinately.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: KillYourIdols on September 02, 2005, 02:04:38 AM
Souls Asylum and The Mat's are from the same scene, it makes sense for all involved.

With GNR inactive, Tommy shouldn't be blamed for wanting to work/perform.





No, you are right, but this would indicate a substantial period of activity away from GnR. Perhaps indefinately.

Even longer than the damn 3 years of silence since the tour? Good for him...probably just a studio player anyways.

~KYI


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: ClintroN on September 02, 2005, 02:05:59 AM
it would only be session muso


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Falcon on September 02, 2005, 02:15:36 AM

No, you are right, but this would indicate a substantial period of activity away from GnR. Perhaps indefinately.

With GNR working on 3 years of inactivity and no end to that in sight, it doesn't seem as though
"a substantial period of activity away from GnR" is even an issue at this point.



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: sweechile on September 02, 2005, 02:17:53 AM
Lets hope he joins that band on permanent forever, ?as he was definetly a weak link in the nu gnr. ? if you listen to any previous
gnr record you would realise that there was a sense of solid and heaviness brought about by the bass guitar that was very
important for their sound. ?If you listened to his studio version of Oh my God or any of the live mp3's you would know what i mean,
he is more geared as a lead bassist than as a roots low give me some thud. ?too meandering i guess is to say.
Lets keep our fingers crossed! ? ?Go Asylum!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: KillYourIdols on September 02, 2005, 02:25:26 AM
Lets hope he joins that band on permanent forever,  as he was definetly a weak link in the nu gnr.   if you listen to any previous
gnr record you would realise that there was a sense of solid and heaviness brought about by the bass guitar that was very
important for their sound.  If you listened to his studio version of Oh my God or any of the live mp3's you would know what i mean,
he is more geared as a lead bassist than as a roots low give me some thud.  too meandering i guess is to say.
Lets keep our fingers crossed!    Go Asylum!

Wow I disagree with that. Live Tommy sounds so much better. Course, Duff probably pounded a fifth of jack every night before playing, so I give him some leeway, but still...

~KYI


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Will on September 02, 2005, 03:36:17 AM
I just hope it's temporary, because if "General" Tommy Stinson does leave GN'R, well...that doesn't sound good.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Rain on September 02, 2005, 03:54:22 AM
wow ... No way to find out if it's a permanent thing ?
Not a good news at all !  :P


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Izzy on September 02, 2005, 04:22:15 AM
Considering Tommy must have recorded all his GNR parts years ago does it really matter where he goes?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Jonx on September 02, 2005, 05:01:23 AM
Considering Tommy must have recorded all his GNR parts years ago does it really matter where he goes?

Yes and No! Recording the album isnt a problem as they state that it will be out in 2005 and we know that this year is out in the GNR world. The only problem is if he decides to tour the album in 2006!

Jonx




Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Izzy on September 02, 2005, 05:17:59 AM
Considering Tommy must have recorded all his GNR parts years ago does it really matter where he goes?

Yes and No! Recording the album isnt a problem as they state that it will be out in 2005 and we know that this year is out in the GNR world. The only problem is if he decides to tour the album in 2006!

Jonx




They can just grab a touring bassist - c'mon, who really cares who's in the band, where here for Axl - providing he's on stage who else is there doesn't concern me


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Wooody on September 02, 2005, 05:59:42 AM
it looks bad, they said "recruited" as in joined...

GNR is dead  :crying:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: nesquick on September 02, 2005, 06:03:24 AM
Considering RIR5 is in about 8/9 month (may or june 2006), It doesn't sound good for me...
But Tommy is right, if he is pissed off it's absolutely normal. It's a miracle the band hasn't exploded yet.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Mikkamakka on September 02, 2005, 06:11:40 AM
Considering RIR5 is in about 8/9 month (may or june 2006), It doesn't sound good for me...
But Tommy is right, if he is pissed off it's absolutrely normal. It's a miracle the band hasn't exploded yet.

Nothing can explode that doesn't exist. It seems to me there won't be a tour in the next few months, although the 'music is ready' so Axl could release the damned album.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: nesquick on September 02, 2005, 06:18:35 AM
ok so I guess No Rock in Rio 5? what will be the new Axl's reason? a letter saying "Tommy left the band to promote his solo projects....nice guy! Hoppefully we hope to announce a release date for the new album in the next few month".

Will you be that stupid to believe it...again?
I really start to loose my optimism.



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 06:23:02 AM
wow soul asylum still exists... I haven't heard them since runaway train.. Not a bad group loved the album from ten years ago...

Good for tommy, hopefully he is there and moves on because there is nothing going down with axl... man needs to eat and fufill his musical appetite as well....

For the people that are like wtf, what did you expect is axl and his new group active in anyway, is there anything actually happening, ??? You honestly don't expect these people who have been extra patient to wait forever....


I'm sure if cd ever happens they will all come back, but if they didn't I would understand just the same..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: BD888 on September 02, 2005, 06:32:30 AM
Runaway train never going back...


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Pandora on September 02, 2005, 06:33:38 AM
I just hope it's temporary, because if "General" Tommy Stinson does leave GN'R, well...that doesn't sound good.

Agreed. The intriguing thing is that over a month ago, his webmaster said Tommy would post an update on his website as to what he's been doing lately. And that update never materialized. One could says no news is good news, but I'm not sure that's the way it works in the GN'R world...

Hopefully it's just a recording session, or maybe even an unfounded rumor. Is silentuproar.com a reputable music website? I've never heard of it before....


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Saul on September 02, 2005, 06:48:54 AM
atleast this will give axl a chance to take the recordings to a new level.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: dENIS on September 02, 2005, 06:56:20 AM


Nothing can explode that doesn't exist. It seems to me there won't be a tour in the next few months, although the 'music is ready' so Axl could release the damned album.
Quote

Agree


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: conny on September 02, 2005, 06:59:26 AM
Buckethead gone, more lawsuits than music, years of silence, Fortus with Nena, Brian "Smartass" Mantia, Sideshow Dizzy, studio jobs, longtime projects, third hand updates, soon, sooner....Soul Asylum?

My patience is over - I'm outta here.

Gimme a call when GN'R is a BAND and about MUSIC again.

Until then, may Axl find peace and everyone else keep on rocking. Thanks for a great time.

 :peace:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: makane on September 02, 2005, 07:09:13 AM
Good for Tommy.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 07:11:59 AM
atleast this will give axl a chance to take the recordings to a new level.? :hihi:

A level even higher then when BH left.. it will be so complex only 4 legged creatures will be able to hear it..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on September 02, 2005, 07:18:23 AM
Don`t assume it is true, when Tommy or his management announces it, then we`ll know for sure.



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: DeN on September 02, 2005, 07:38:04 AM
i'll wait more infos to comment this one...


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 02, 2005, 07:48:30 AM
If it is true, it?s probably just to make the album. I don?t think Tommy is doing anything til 2006 with guns n roses, and I don?t think it would take soul asylum more than 4 months to make an album.? Recruiting doesn?t mean joining the band. Just like Avil Levine recruited Josh Freese to play drums on her album. Also Tommys site doesn?t say he left gnr, or anything like that. But we ll see what happens. If Tommy did quit then it will be a huge blow to gnr since he is the 2nd most important member next to axl in this new gnr


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: jemin on September 02, 2005, 08:26:50 AM
This sounds eerily similar to how the original/real GNR disintegrated.? Starting with the Buckethead announcement and all the members off working on their own projects and with other bands!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Neemo on September 02, 2005, 08:49:28 AM
If it is true, it?s probably just to make the album. I don?t think Tommy is doing anything til 2006 with guns n roses, and I don?t think it would take soul asylum more than 4 months to make an album.? Recruiting doesn?t mean joining the band. Just like Avil Levine recruited Josh Freese to play drums on her album. Also Tommys site doesn?t say he left gnr, or anything like that. But we ll see what happens. If Tommy did quit then it will be a huge blow to gnr since he is the 2nd most important member next to axl in this new gnr

I agree dave, this doesn't mean Tommy has left GnR,

Didn't trent recruit Dave Grohl on drums for the recording of NIN-With Teeth? Dave Grohl is not in NIN any longer

Don't worry people!!! He's still in GnR until An official announcement is made.  Besides it's not like Guns is active right now. I've said it before and i'll say it again. We will not see GnR again until the Record is in stores.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 08:55:07 AM
If it is true, it?s probably just to make the album. I don?t think Tommy is doing anything til 2006 with guns n roses, and I don?t think it would take soul asylum more than 4 months to make an album.? Recruiting doesn?t mean joining the band. Just like Avil Levine recruited Josh Freese to play drums on her album. Also Tommys site doesn?t say he left gnr, or anything like that. But we ll see what happens. If Tommy did quit then it will be a huge blow to gnr since he is the 2nd most important member next to axl in this new gnr

I agree dave, this doesn't mean Tommy has left GnR,

Didn't trent recruit Dave Grohl on drums for the recording of NIN-With Teeth? Dave Grohl is not in NIN any longer

Don't worry people!!! He's still in GnR until An official announcement is made.? Besides it's not like Guns is active right now. I've said it before and i'll say it again. We will not see GnR again until the Record is in stores.
it's not like the band is active ever.. One thing I love about the forum is any new gnr fan can make aby negative situation seem positive :hihi:

Maybe he is just for the album.. I thought they needed a new bass player being they don't have one..

Soul asylum doing an album in 4 months.. Then it will be complete shit since we know a good album takes at least 6 or 7 years to make ;D


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: PhillyRiot on September 02, 2005, 08:59:31 AM
Will somebody get an update from Axl please.  Why does he have to leave everybody in the dark like this?  It is so unneccesary.  When is that new VR album coming out?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 09:02:00 AM
Will somebody get an update from Axl please.? Why does he have to leave everybody in the dark like this?? It is so unneccesary.? When is that new VR album coming out?
from duff

On writing the follow-up to "Contraband":

"Oh, man, we have tons of new material. We've been writing since the beginning of the U.S. tour. We probably have enough for five records. The problem is paring it down to one record; it's a lot of stuff. We each have a CD and we each come back with the ones (songs) we like.

"On days off, I come up with riffs and partial songs. But our songwriting, . . . we really have to be together to be able to write, to come up with the song. Nobody's brought in a whole song. Like Matt'll have a drum riff, or I'll have a bass riff, or Slash will come in with a guitar riff; we all contribute. We're real prolific when we're all together. We are the sum of its parts.

"We'll probably start work on it at the end of September, but it probably won't come out until March or April. We record real quick, in a matter of weeks, but it's all the other stuff (mixing, tracking, packaging) that takes time.

"We don't want to rush it, but we want to keep this momentum that we've got right now going."



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Ignatius on September 02, 2005, 09:02:46 AM
08.31.05 ? Soul Asylum recruit new bass player

After the unfortunate passing of Soul Asylum bassist Karl Mueller it seemed that the band may call it quits but not Soul Asylum! No way! They've recruited former Replacements member Tommy Stinson. A new album should be out possibly in 2005.?

http://www.silentuproar.com/news/index.php

/jarmo

The quote says former Replacements member, doesn't mention GNR. So I assume Tommy is still in Guns and will also play in the next Soul Asylum album. Otherwise it'd probably quoted former Replacements and GNR member.

If Tommy has really joined Soul Asylum, I'd expect an official statement by GNR management or Axl to clarify the status of the band as it happened with Buckethead's departure.

Patience people, patience.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 09:08:34 AM
08.31.05 ? Soul Asylum recruit new bass player

After the unfortunate passing of Soul Asylum bassist Karl Mueller it seemed that the band may call it quits but not Soul Asylum! No way! They've recruited former Replacements member Tommy Stinson. A new album should be out possibly in 2005.?

http://www.silentuproar.com/news/index.php

/jarmo

The quote says former Replacements member, doesn't mention GNR. So I assume Tommy is still in Guns and will also play in the next Soul Asylum album. Otherwise it'd probably quoted former Replacements and GNR member.

If Tommy has really joined Soul Asylum, I'd expect an official statement by GNR management or Axl to clarify the status of the band as it happened with Buckethead's departure.

Patience people, patience.

sometimes i think they say former replacement's bass player because no one even knows he's in axl's band... He gets the billing for the band he was most famous with..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: PhillyRiot on September 02, 2005, 09:19:10 AM
Hah, thanks for the update Mike.  I used to like Sould Asylum back in like 1995.  I think the fitting Soul Asylum song here is "Frustrated Incorporated."


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Dont Try Me on September 02, 2005, 09:20:49 AM
cool for tommy, hope he gets back to Gn'R when things finally happen....  : ok:






Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: GypsySoul on September 02, 2005, 09:24:39 AM
If Tommy has really joined Soul Asylum, I'd expect an official statement by GNR management or Axl to clarify the status of the band as it happened with Buckethead's departure.
I'm not expecting any statement from GNR management or Axl on Tommy's status with GNR. ?The circumstances surrounding BH's departure, especially GNR having to back out of Lisbon, made a statement a necessity. ?IMO, this Tommy's situation is different because he always appeared to be on the GNR bandwagon even when he's doing his solo stuff.
 ?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: DemocracyRose on September 02, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
Sp1at.com

Stinson Has Not Joined Soul Asylum
2 September 2005, 2:14 PM
 

It has been reported that Tommy Stinson of Guns n'roses has joined Soul Asylum, replacing former bassist Karl Mueller who recently died of throat cancer.
We can report that this information is false, and we'll let Merck Mercuriadis, manager of Guns n'roses, explain the real truth.

"Tommy has not joined Soul Asylum. They are longtime friends of his and he is doing two gigs with them in tribute to their late bass player Karl."

So there you have it. You can all go back to sleep now

Written by bigboss

 
 


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Mutherfunker on September 02, 2005, 09:35:42 AM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Tommy's not joining soul asylum. I love the way some of you guys get a sniff of someone leaving and believe it straight away.

He's just doing a couple of shows as a tribute to their bass player.

@#$%Funker


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: younggunner on September 02, 2005, 09:45:51 AM
Quote
One thing I love about the forum is any new gnr fan can make aby negative situation seem positive
One thing I love is watching so called fans liek yourself come out of the woodwrok everytime there is negative news. ALways making sure you add you much needed and caring opinion...

but Tommy is still in th eband. SO all is good. No GNR meltdown yet....Come Again


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Scabbie on September 02, 2005, 09:46:59 AM
Please note that Tommy is still a member of Guns N' Roses.
Thank you!

Tina Chang
Sanctuary Group Inc.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Neemo on September 02, 2005, 09:58:40 AM
it's not like the band is active ever.. One thing I love about the forum is any new gnr fan can make aby negative situation seem positive :hihi:

Maybe he is just for the album.. I thought they needed a new bass player being they don't have one..

Soul asylum doing an album in 4 months.. Then it will be complete shit since we know a good album takes at least 6 or 7 years to make ;D

Well I'm just going on the assumption that the ablum has been in the works for damn-near 10 years and alot of time, effort and money has gone into it. ?Why go through the trouble if you are not going to release something. IMO Axl doesn't even need anyone but him in the band because there are always musicians who are willing to tour with a big name.

I made a thread when i first joined that said Axl should just tour as W. Axl Rose but i got slammed for it being dead horse. That opinion still stands. Randy Rhodes, Jake E. Lee and Zack Wylde have all contributed heavily to Ozzy's solo career but the work is all Ozzy. Axl has the ability to do the same IMO. Any decent musician can learn to play any song. Whether the wirter of the song was slash, Bucket, Robin, Brian May or who the fuck ever. Ya-Know-What-I'm-sayin'? Then people here don't freak everytime we hear... "My god Richard left to tour with Nena", "Tommy is with Soul ASylum", "Brain just wants money", "Buckethead quit" yada-yada-yada

The album will come out and the band may not be like it was on the 2002 tour, but it may, really who fucking cares as long as Uncle Axl is the front man, I know I don't. It's all about Axl's vision. the other guys are just session musicians as far as I'm concerned, the only guns n roses i saw in 2002 was Axl. the rest were just guys playing GnR songs ?: ok:

Axl wouldn't have to worry about the lawsuits impacting his current project either


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: nesquick on September 02, 2005, 10:28:20 AM
mouais..well...I still stay prudent...by experience you know...


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: acciu on September 02, 2005, 10:36:32 AM
i'm tired .... tired ... tired .....
I've been waitin' for this album for the last 10 years : do you all know what i think?
Chinese Democracy will never NEVER come out..
I mean ... time goes by .... you signed a contract with axl ... you thought you could have been a badass musician
with nu gn'r ..... but axl doesn't put the record out.
After ,well 8 years, it's a little bit frustrating ?isn'it?
First Buckethead ' s departure and now , if confirmed ,this.I don't think Tommy is an important musician in gn'r economy but now ew are back from the start.....
Another neverendin' delay.....
I've been checkin' gn'r news since 98..... everyday......
I think i deserve ?respect from Axl
I'm REALLY TIRED


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Saul on September 02, 2005, 10:39:39 AM
Fuck.

I was hoping this would lead to more recordings and taking them a step further. Now we just have to settle fior the album , as it is .. sometime this year.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: nesquick on September 02, 2005, 10:43:59 AM
The album is done. The "next step" is to know wether Axl is mentally ready to release the album and to tour or not.
RIR5 may be the next step (may 2006, 8 month). The countdown already started for me.
Axl - Tommy- Richard- Robin- Brain - Dizzy and Chris have a lot to proove as a band and a lot to do to make justice to "Guns N' Roses", to make justice to the glorious past. Hope they will return as a cohesive band. BH's departure is a good sign to be taken more seriously as a "real" band by the general public.
Good luck to them.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: acciu on September 02, 2005, 10:55:51 AM
atleast this will give axl a chance to take the recordings to a new level.? :hihi:

Yeah ... chinese democracy starts now  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 02, 2005, 10:57:45 AM
Quote
One thing I love about the forum is any new gnr fan can make aby negative situation seem positive
One thing I love is watching so called fans liek yourself come out of the woodwrok everytime there is negative news. ALways making sure you add you much needed and caring opinion...

but Tommy is still in th eband. SO all is good. No GNR meltdown yet....Come Again
I'm a fan of the real gnr and axl alone, i have no interest in any of the other guys as of this day.. Maybe if they played and made music I would be able to appreciate them more as axl's team members...

I didn't come out of the woowork for any negative news.. Maybe I should have disected the stupid lawsuit thread or something..?? I am into music touring and everything you expect from a band not the he said she said bullshitt hat gnr forums are mostly about these days


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: sweechile on September 02, 2005, 11:05:01 AM
Oh darn...   I was hoping that tommy would be with Soul Asylum as permanent.   that is sad news.  He seemed to fit good with
those other hayseed type bands from midwest


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: GNRisSLASH on September 02, 2005, 11:09:00 AM
If it is true, it?s probably just to make the album. I don?t think Tommy is doing anything til 2006 with guns n roses, and I don?t think it would take soul asylum more than 4 months to make an album.  Recruiting doesn?t mean joining the band. Just like Avil Levine recruited Josh Freese to play drums on her album. Also Tommys site doesn?t say he left gnr, or anything like that. But we ll see what happens. If Tommy did quit then it will be a huge blow to gnr since he is the 2nd most important member next to axl in this new gnr

If he did quit, are you going to finally acknowledge that this is a train wreck, DaveGnr2k1221?  How many musicians can walk through this revolving door before you stop praising 'nu' Gnr?  Remember Paul Huge/Tobias? Remember Buckethead, the savior, the greatest guitarist that ever was?  How about Josh Freese?  Didn't Brian May play with Axl? How many producers have there been so far? 3? 4? Sounds like you'll be adding Stinson to this list.  Heck, it would be really funny if Axl quit his own band and left the GnR name to Dizzy, LOL.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: GypsySoul on September 02, 2005, 11:10:55 AM
He seemed to fit good with those other hayseed type bands from midwest
You mean unlike being able to fit in a band where the lead singer IS a hayseed from the midwest? ?:hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: sweechile on September 02, 2005, 11:22:59 AM
at least Axl got the hell outta the midwest and made it in los angeles, there is nothing hayseed about AFD.
Now the Replacements, Sould Asylum,   what a bunch of shit, with that 80's hick sound,  and why do they
have to try to sing like Bob Dylan, that is not a good singer influence?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: killingvector on September 02, 2005, 11:24:52 AM
Fuck.

I was hoping this would lead to more recordings and taking them a step further. Now we just have to settle fior the album , as it is .. sometime this year.

We have to strip this band down to Axl and his housekeeper to recreate musical history. Then, in a few years, we will hear the stories of the epic recording sessions that paralleled that of the Let it Be sessions in which Axl and Beta achieved integrated musical synergy.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on September 02, 2005, 11:25:29 AM
If you wanna talk about Soul Asylum, do it in the right section.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: killingvector on September 02, 2005, 11:26:06 AM
If it is true, it?s probably just to make the album. I don?t think Tommy is doing anything til 2006 with guns n roses, and I don?t think it would take soul asylum more than 4 months to make an album.  Recruiting doesn?t mean joining the band. Just like Avil Levine recruited Josh Freese to play drums on her album. Also Tommys site doesn?t say he left gnr, or anything like that. But we ll see what happens. If Tommy did quit then it will be a huge blow to gnr since he is the 2nd most important member next to axl in this new gnr

If he did quit, are you going to finally acknowledge that this is a train wreck, DaveGnr2k1221?  How many musicians can walk through this revolving door before you stop praising 'nu' Gnr?  Remember Paul Huge/Tobias? Remember Buckethead, the savior, the greatest guitarist that ever was?  How about Josh Freese?  Didn't Brian May play with Axl? How many producers have there been so far? 3? 4? Sounds like you'll be adding Stinson to this list.  Heck, it would be really funny if Axl quit his own band and left the GnR name to Dizzy, LOL.

didn't you just read the statement from Merck? He hasn't left. Please leave your open mouth, slash ass kissing for another day.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: GypsySoul on September 02, 2005, 12:42:17 PM
at least Axl got the hell outta the midwest and made it in los angeles, there is nothing hayseed about AFD.
Now the Replacements, Sould Asylum,? ?what a bunch of shit, with that 80's hick sound,? and why do they
have to try to sing like Bob Dylan, that is not a good singer influence?
Yeah, could you just imagine the horror of GnR being influenced by a no good singer like Bob Dylan ... Axl and the old line-up doing a cover of Knockin' on Hea................? oh wait.? :-X


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Fitz on September 02, 2005, 12:52:43 PM
As I said, this proves to be that Axl's band of freaks are horrible.  Soul ASSylum.  Thanks Jarmo for deleting my thread.  I see that you run a perfect CHINESE DEMOCRACY message board.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on September 02, 2005, 01:04:19 PM
As I said, this proves to be that Axl's band of freaks are horrible.? Soul ASSylum.? Thanks Jarmo for deleting my thread.? I see that you run a perfect CHINESE DEMOCRACY message board.

This proves you're clueless.

I posted this earlier: If you wanna talk about Soul Asylum, do it in the right section.

Get a fucking clue.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Nytunz on September 02, 2005, 01:23:48 PM
As I said, this proves to be that Axl's band of freaks are horrible.? Soul ASSylum.? Thanks Jarmo for deleting my thread.? I see that you run a perfect CHINESE DEMOCRACY message board.

That wasnt verry nice, now was it?  :no:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: alternativemonkey on September 02, 2005, 01:30:44 PM

Sorry if this is in the wrong place but I caught this on cnn.com. tommy sitinson to Soul Asylum to here . . .

"Soul Asylum frontman Dave Pirner said he was anxiously watching news reports on television, hoping to see if his house in New Orleans had escaped destruction.

"We are, you know, examining our silver lining and being very lucky that we're out of harm's way," said Pirner, who was visiting his hometown of Minneapolis when the hurricane struck. "Our place in Minneapolis might be filling up with New Orleans transplants."




Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: ppbebe on September 02, 2005, 01:46:19 PM
Gosh, some ppl are as hasty as some "premature" Lawyer :headscratch: ?We better follow Saul's example.

Now the Replacements, Sould Asylum,   what a bunch of shit, with that 80's hick sound,  and why do they
have to try to sing like Bob Dylan, that is not a good singer influence?

Sorry another bloody off topic (maybe not), but have you ever grumbled here that Tommy didn't give you his autograph, by any chance? :headscratch:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: sweechile on September 02, 2005, 01:55:44 PM
Hey jarmo,  why did you change the name of this thread and the news update to tommy joins for 2 shows only? instead of the original, tommy joins soul asylum?
sounds like a spin to me.  i guess you can't leave the posters original intent, that is unless it is a slam against Axl.  why don't
you do that for axl?     there is something going on here (censored)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on September 02, 2005, 02:13:51 PM
Just for further info, I sent an email to the author of this piece and this is what he replied :

I got the snippet of information from morecowbell.net - a site  dedicated to music news in and around the Minneapolis / Twin cities  area. His new is usually pretty reputable but it is possible that it  could be based on bad information... or maybe I just read it wrong  and Tommy Stinson will be PLAYING with Soul Asylum, but not  necessarily joining the band full-time.


Michael


Now that is what you can read on morecowbell.net :

As buzzed about around the Twin Cities the last couple weeks, former Replacements/GNR bassist, Tommy Stinson, has been asked to play some shows with Soul Asylum this fall, and may join the band as well.
While no one can replace Karl, I know it was reported that he left a list of people he would have liked see take his place after he passed, and I have a feeling Tommy was pretty damn high on that list.

This would make for an interesting pairing imo, can?t wait for the new record to come out, all the songs i?ve heard so far live have been great.



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Falcon on September 02, 2005, 02:25:39 PM
It looks as though Tommy's just helping out some friends, getting to play a few gigs.

Good for him.

Anyway, I can't really imagine Soul Asylum being any kind of threat to Tommy's involvement in GNR.  Maybe a full on Replacements reunion could sway him, but not Soul Asylum...


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on September 02, 2005, 05:45:25 PM
Hey jarmo,? why did you change the name of this thread and the news update to tommy joins for 2 shows only? instead of the original, tommy joins soul asylum?
sounds like a spin to me.? i guess you can't leave the posters original intent, that is unless it is a slam against Axl.? why don't
you do that for axl?? ? ?there is something going on here (censored)


Nothing to do with Axl.

Just making it clear that Tommy's still in GN'R even thought he's joining Soul Asylum for the shows.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Judge Dredd on September 02, 2005, 07:15:43 PM
I would not be surprised to see Tommy join Soul Asylum on a permanent basis within the next 9 months.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on September 02, 2005, 08:21:15 PM
Sp1at.com

Stinson Has Not Joined Soul Asylum
2 September 2005, 2:14 PM
 

It has been reported that Tommy Stinson of Guns n'roses has joined Soul Asylum, replacing former bassist Karl Mueller who recently died of throat cancer.
We can report that this information is false, and we'll let Merck Mercuriadis, manager of Guns n'roses, explain the real truth.

"Tommy has not joined Soul Asylum. They are longtime friends of his and he is doing two gigs with them in tribute to their late bass player Karl."

So there you have it. You can all go back to sleep now

Written by bigboss

 
 


Please note that Tommy is still a member of Guns N' Roses.
Thank you!

Tina Chang
Sanctuary Group Inc.


08.31.05 ? Soul Asylum recruit new bass player

After the unfortunate passing of Soul Asylum bassist Karl Mueller it seemed that the band may call it quits but not Soul Asylum! No way! They've recruited former Replacements member Tommy Stinson. A new album should be out possibly in 2005. 

http://www.silentuproar.com/news/index.php

Thanks to Holtz, Todd



Edit: He's just playing two shows with them and is still in GN'R.



/jarmo



Wow, I heard last night via IM from a friend and fellow board member about the story which seemed to indicare that Tommy joined Soul Asylum.  I refused to believe it, did not get upset, and figured by today clarification would be available.

Now, I gotta compliment the GN'R community and network for making the actual situation clear.

Gunners Rule!   :beer:

and, as is my practice...  allow me to express some "Tommy love" 
 :love: Tommy  :love:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: nyd on September 02, 2005, 09:03:09 PM
Tommy Stinson rocks! He's the only reason I am waiting for Chinese Democracy really, can't wait to see his input in the project.

However a Replacements re-union would tickle my tastebuds somewhat  ::) ;D Westerberg & Stinson rock!!!!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Lord Kayoss on September 02, 2005, 09:13:46 PM
I may be a little late but Soul Asylum is still around!?  I haven't heard anything about them since the "Misery" tune or something like that about 10 years ago.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: mikegiuliana on September 03, 2005, 06:39:32 AM
I may be a little late but Soul Asylum is still around!?? I haven't heard anything about them since the "Misery" tune or something like that about 10 years ago.

guess so, I hadn't heard them either.. Hell richard is with Nena, I haven't heard of them since the 80's with that 99 whatever balloon song..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on September 03, 2005, 01:42:41 PM
Hell richard is with Nena, I haven't heard of them since the 80's with that 99 whatever balloon song..
And these two and Robin, Chriss, Brain are also with GN'R?  Oh am I forgetting Dizzy n Axl?

Come on, don't be snobby! That's not like you.

That said, Nena n Soul Asylum are no familiar to me.  :P so what?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: michaelvincent on September 03, 2005, 01:44:19 PM
Soul Asylum was making great records long before 'Misery' broke them to the mainstream, and they continued to make music after. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time in the 90's when that kind of music was popular.

As for Tommy, I think its touching that he would do this as a tribute to his friend. Back in the day when Soul Asylum was called Loud Fast Rules they used to open for the Replacements. And as far them billing Tommy as the Replacements bassist without mentioning GnR, it's most likely a Minnesota thing, since the 'Mats and Soul Asylum are from the same town, and really drives the point home that Tommy is doing this out of respect and friendship. Otherwise most people would be like 'why is the guy from GnR playing with Soul Asylum?'. Most kids these days probably have no idea who the 'Mats or SA are, let alone if they are from the same town.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on September 03, 2005, 02:05:27 PM
Hey thanks for the great input, michaelvincent.   :D

Now I understand the event and the gackground much better.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on September 04, 2005, 12:30:09 AM
Idi love to see Soul Asylum  open for gnr when they tour again.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: RichardNixon on September 04, 2005, 04:25:42 AM
It looks as though Tommy's just helping out some friends, getting to play a few gigs.

Good for him.

Anyway, I can't really imagine Soul Asylum being any kind of threat to Tommy's involvement in GNR.? Maybe a full on Replacements reunion could sway him, but not Soul Asylum...

I don't see the point in having a Replacements reunion now that Bob Stinson is dead. Westerberg writes all the songs anyway, so what difference does it make who plays bass and drums. A new Westerberg solo album would sound the same as a Replacements reunion album. And I don't mean this in a negative way, I really liked most of his solo albums, I just mean it as a matter-of-fact.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Lord Kayoss on September 05, 2005, 01:13:14 PM
Soul Asylum was making great records long before 'Misery' broke them to the mainstream, and they continued to make music after.

I remember the "Runaway" tune before the album "Misery" was on.  I liked those two songs but never followed the band after that.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on September 14, 2005, 11:18:21 AM
This was posted on the Tommy Stinson list:

Soul Asylum will be playing the Bowery Ballroom on 10/26 with Tommy Stinson playing bass.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on October 26, 2005, 10:25:51 AM
For those interested, here's a review of the rehearsal show that took place Monday night. It's from a Minneapolis paper which I don't know the name of :

You say "replacement," I say "renewal."

"Replacement" was on everybody's mind as Soul Asylum returned to the
stage Monday night at First Avenue for the first time since founding
bassist Karl Mueller died of cancer in June. Indeed, Tommy Stinson of
Replacements fame made his debut this week with Minneapolis' biggest
band of the '90s.

After a mere three days of rehearsal, Soul Asylum sounded renewed and
revitalized. It was partly because the 80-minute set included several
new songs from a CD recorded with Mueller that is slated for a winter
release. It was partly because lead singer Dave Pirner and lead
guitarist Danny Murphy are finally ready to move on. And it was partly
because Stinson and powerhouse drummer Michael Bland, who'd signed on a
year ago, kicked the butts of Pirner and Murphy, who have been rocking
together since 1981.

"How 'bout this bleeping rhythm section?" Pirner asked the nearly 500
fans. "I can't tell you how lucky I feel to have these guys with us
tonight."

That was an understatement. The arrival of Stinson, whose rock 'n' roll
personality disguises what an underrated pro he is, and Bland, the
diesel that drives this runaway rock 'n' roll train, has transformed
Soul Asylum from a good band to a potentially great one. It's also a
historic quartet, featuring members of three of the Twin Cities most
famous rock acts -- Prince, the Replacements and Soul Asylum.

There were some amazing moments on Monday, especially a piledriving
rendition of "Somebody to Shove" that brought visions of Stinson in the
vintage Replacements, Bland in his Prince days and Pirner and Murphy in
their full punk-pop fury. Some new numbers also stood out, notably the
edgy, intense "Bus Named Desire" and the night's final tune, a surging,
full-throttle rocker about weapons of mass destruction.

A couple of the new tunes raised a skeptical eyebrow, namely the
acoustic-driven heartland rocker "Standing Water" and loud, Brit-like
"Oxygen." But to see Pirner, 41, carrying on with the joy of a
20-something punk was as reassuring as it was exciting. He was clearly
having a wonderful time, egged on by the fun-loving spirit of Stinson,
who isn't one to just stand there and stoically play bass like Mueller
did. The rooster-haired Stinson -- the Los Angeles resident who still
ranks as one of Minneapolis' great rock characters ("I know I don't
have to introduce him," Pirner said before introducing him) -- carried
on like the rock star he is. He windmilled his right arm, climbed on
Bland's drum kit, seized the mike to declare that one tune "was very
nice" and jammed face-to-face and back-to-back with Pirner like a
couple of kids playing their first rock show.

Despite the fun, Pirner did get emotional at one point. He said he
wanted to dedicate this show -- and every show -- to a "friend who is
here in spirit." He then led a chant of "Kar-rul, Kar-rul" before
easing into "Crazy Mixed Up World," a quieter, tuneful new piece that
was sentimental and questioning at the same time.

The historic evening, a tuneup for gigs this week in New York and
Memphis, got off to a crazy, mixed-up start. The band was supposed to
have performed at the tiny, sold-out 7th Street Entry, where new bands
typically start out. But there were problems with the sound system
during the opening act's set, so shortly before Soul Asylum was slated
to take the stage, the show was moved next door to the more spacious
First Avenue. That the band, without a sound check, was able to quickly
adapt to the situation without any hitches was further testament to
Soul Asylum's spirit and will to move on.


Jon Bream


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on October 26, 2005, 12:28:38 PM
thanks for posting

i would have guessed this is either from the Minneapolis Star Tribune or Minneapolis City Pages, but I don't think it is. Haven't read it yet.

"That was an understatement. The arrival of Stinson, whose rock 'n' roll
personality disguises what an underrated pro he is, and Bland, the
diesel that drives this runaway rock 'n' roll train, has transformed
Soul Asylum from a good band to a potentially great one."

they really talk about it like he's in soul asylum


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Scabbie on October 26, 2005, 12:44:34 PM
Question...if Tommy threatened to leave GN'R for Soul Asylum or any of the members for any other band, do you think it would make Axl hurry up a bit?



Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: loretian on October 26, 2005, 12:44:59 PM
i would have guessed this is either from the Minneapolis Star Tribune or Minneapolis City Pages, but I don't think it is. Haven't read it yet.

it's from the (red) star tribune... here's the link

http://www.startribune.com/stories/457/5688577.html


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Neemo on October 26, 2005, 12:56:32 PM
Question...if Tommy threatened to leave GN'R for Soul Asylum or any of the members for any other band, do you think it would make Axl hurry up a bit?



Did it make him hurry up:

When Slash left?
When Matt left?
When Duff left?
When Robin Finck left?
When Gary Sunshine left?
When Dave Navarro left?
When Josh Freese left?
When Buckethead left?

I don't think so, he'll release a statement that says "Nice Guy!!! Anyway, now we will be able to push the recording step a bit further" :hihi:

Anyway thanks Pandora for posting that Article, It's really good to see that Soul Asylum got it together to at least put on a couple shows to promote Carl's last recordings with the band. I liked Soul Asylum until Runaway Train was killed by the Radio and MTV.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on October 26, 2005, 12:59:43 PM
i would have guessed this is either from the Minneapolis Star Tribune or Minneapolis City Pages, but I don't think it is. Haven't read it yet.

it's from the (red) star tribune... here's the link

http://www.startribune.com/stories/457/5688577.html

thanks dude


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 26, 2005, 01:18:02 PM
Thanks for the great read Pandora, its really cool to see that on Tommy's downtime from Gn'R that he can still kick a ton of ass on stage in support of, as the article said, "one of the best bands of the 90s." : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Scabbie on October 26, 2005, 01:54:08 PM
Question...if Tommy threatened to leave GN'R for Soul Asylum or any of the members for any other band, do you think it would make Axl hurry up a bit?



Did it make him hurry up:

When Slash left?
When Matt left?
When Duff left?
When Robin Finck left?
When Gary Sunshine left?
When Dave Navarro left?
When Josh Freese left?
When Buckethead left?

I don't think so, he'll release a statement that says "Nice Guy!!! Anyway, now we will be able to push the recording step a bit further" :hihi:

Anyway thanks Pandora for posting that Article, It's really good to see that Soul Asylum got it together to at least put on a couple shows to promote Carl's last recordings with the band. I liked Soul Asylum until Runaway Train was killed by the Radio and MTV.

Good point, although I guess if they are close to finishing it might hurt him real bad. Fuck it I don't know its Axl we're speaking about.

Good for Tommy. I hope he releases another solo album at some point, loved the last one


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: anythinggoes on October 26, 2005, 05:15:54 PM
some pictures from the tour

http://www.musicphotography.com/102405/


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on October 26, 2005, 07:09:10 PM
Cool pics, thanks  : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 26, 2005, 07:40:36 PM
some pictures from the tour

http://www.musicphotography.com/102405/

Thanks alot for the pics anythinggoes, they kick serious ass :)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: GnR-NOW on October 26, 2005, 09:52:26 PM
im willing to guess that tommy will end up doing more shows with soul asylum


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on October 27, 2005, 08:53:52 PM
(http://www.thenewguns.com/thenewgunsdotcom-tommystinson-soulasylum.jpg)

that's the flyer from last nights gig


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Neemo on October 28, 2005, 08:31:53 AM
(http://www.thenewguns.com/thenewgunsdotcom-tommystinson-soulasylum.jpg)

that's the flyer from last nights gig

Is that Tommy on the Left? Kinda weird for him to be in a Soul Asylum promo shot isn't it? :nervous:

And March 2006? where have i heard that date before? hmmmmmmmmm :-\


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on October 28, 2005, 09:44:03 AM
that's the flyer from last nights gig

Is that Tommy on the Left? Kinda weird for him to be in a Soul Asylum promo shot isn't it? :nervous:

And March 2006? where have i heard that date before? hmmmmmmmmm :-\

Come on, neemo. Read what rainx wrote.  it's just a flyer.

some pictures from the tour

http://www.musicphotography.com/102405/
Ta!

In those pics, the guy on the guitar and vocal looks a bit like Axl.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Neemo on October 28, 2005, 09:46:45 AM
Come on, neemo. Read what rainx wrote.? it's just a flyer.

I know, but the fact that Tommy actually did a Promo Photo Shoot with SA is a bit disconcerting to me.

not hugely, but a smidgin' ;)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Voodoochild on October 28, 2005, 09:59:14 AM
(http://www.thenewguns.com/thenewgunsdotcom-tommystinson-soulasylum.jpg)
What Earl is doing behind the singer??? :nervous: :hihi:

I think it's all a masterplan. Soul Asylum will be part of the GN'R and they are gonna put a new album in march 2006! That's it!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on October 28, 2005, 10:32:53 AM
Guess what band Soul Asylum opened for in 1993.  ;D

Tommy' ties to GN'R are kinda funny. Now he plays with a band that has opened for GN'R. He toured with Alien Crime Syndicate, who's bass player used to be in Loaded, which happens to be the band Tommy's predecessor started after GN'R.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Luigi on October 28, 2005, 10:35:27 AM
Now that's freeky! hmm ??? ;)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: chineseblues on October 28, 2005, 10:51:15 AM
Guess what band Soul Asylum opened for in 1993.  ;D

Tommy' ties to GN'R are kinda funny. Now he plays with a band that has opened for GN'R. He toured with Alien Crime Syndicate, who's bass player used to be in Loaded, which happens to be the band Tommy's predecessor started after GN'R.




/jarmo

Not only that, The Replacements played Texas Stadium in '88 with Guns, and If I'm not mistaken wasn't Tommy in Tom Petty's touring band back in like '89 when Axl joined him for "free fallin'" at a few shows?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 28, 2005, 12:00:37 PM
Guess what band Soul Asylum opened for in 1993.? ;D

Tommy' ties to GN'R are kinda funny. Now he plays with a band that has opened for GN'R. He toured with Alien Crime Syndicate, who's bass player used to be in Loaded, which happens to be the band Tommy's predecessor started after GN'R.




/jarmo

Not only that, The Replacements played Texas Stadium in '88 with Guns, and If I'm not mistaken wasn't Tommy in Tom Petty's touring band back in like '89 when Axl joined him for "free fallin'" at a few shows?

Did Tommy ever speak publically on GnR/Axl prior to joining?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on October 28, 2005, 12:38:20 PM


Not only that, The Replacements played Texas Stadium in '88 with Guns, and If I'm not mistaken wasn't Tommy in Tom Petty's touring band back in like '89 when Axl joined him for "free fallin'" at a few shows?

I don't think so. The Replacements didn't tour at all in 1988. They opened for Tom Petty in '89 but to my knowledge they never played with him. You must be mistaking them for someone else ;)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on October 28, 2005, 12:59:39 PM


Not only that, The Replacements played Texas Stadium in '88 with Guns, and If I'm not mistaken wasn't Tommy in Tom Petty's touring band back in like '89 when Axl joined him for "free fallin'" at a few shows?

I don't think so. The Replacements didn't tour at all in 1988. They opened for Tom Petty in '89 but to my knowledge they never played with him. You must be mistaking them for someone else ;)


I think Slash mentions how Replacements were on the Texas Jam bill in 1988 in that Robert John documentary. Well, they're not listed on the bill.... Instead the poster lists The Smithereens.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: chineseblues on October 28, 2005, 01:21:01 PM


Not only that, The Replacements played Texas Stadium in '88 with Guns, and If I'm not mistaken wasn't Tommy in Tom Petty's touring band back in like '89 when Axl joined him for "free fallin'" at a few shows?

I don't think so. The Replacements didn't tour at all in 1988. They opened for Tom Petty in '89 but to my knowledge they never played with him. You must be mistaking them for someone else ;)


I think Slash mentions how Replacements were on the Texas Jam bill in 1988 in that Robert John documentary. Well, they're not listed on the bill.... Instead the poster lists The Smithereens.



/jarmo

Yeah, Slash does mention it, that's why I mentioned it...


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on October 28, 2005, 01:44:06 PM


Yeah, Slash does mention it, that's why I mentioned it...

Well, Slash was probably drunk, as usual  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on October 28, 2005, 05:42:24 PM
Tommy joins soul asylum for a third show: http://www.memphisflyer.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A10436

 ::)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: conny on October 28, 2005, 05:48:23 PM
Tommy joins soul asylum for a third show: http://www.memphisflyer.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A10436

 ::)

Soul Asylum starts now.  :rofl:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: jarmo on October 28, 2005, 07:09:12 PM
Tommy joins soul asylum for a third show: http://www.memphisflyer.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A10436

 ::)

I think it's happening really soon: http://www.voodoomusicfest.com/2005/soco.html




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on October 28, 2005, 07:19:26 PM
check out this video from the other night:

misery nyc (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/Misery.wmv)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on October 28, 2005, 07:30:56 PM
check out this video from the other night:

misery nyc (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/Misery.wmv)

Nice one. Thanks!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Deez Nuts on October 28, 2005, 07:49:53 PM
Another small Tommy mention in today's Minneapolis Star Tribune by Jon Bream.

Tommy Stinson's mom and ex-wife were backstage to greet him after Soul Asylum's return Monday to First Avenue, the band's first concert since the death of founding bassist Karl Mueller in June and its first with Stinson on bass.? Other well wishers begged for a copy of the historic night's set list, which began with "Bittersweet."? Stage manager Conrad Sverkerson clutched one with black electrical tape on it.? "This one is for Karl's mom," he said protectively.? Mary Mueller, a U of M librarian, has long kept scrapbooks for Soul Asylum.? While documenting this show no doubt will be difficult, I.W. feels the milestone event indicates that life goes on.

I'm pretty sure Tommy's mom makes it to all the shows in Minnesota, I saw her during his solo show in January.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on October 29, 2005, 03:28:20 PM
some pictures from the tour

http://www.musicphotography.com/102405/

cool photos, thanks.

Who was it that said that Tommy has a 'Keith Richards' vibe to him?  He's got that inherently cool look.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 04:21:39 PM
I just hope it's temporary, because if "General" Tommy Stinson does leave GN'R, well...that doesn't sound good.

Why would that be scary?? Gnr hasn't done anything since he has been in the band.. They just played a few gigs and said they have an album somewhere.. if he leaves will the music stop playing, will axl's crowd stop touring??  in or out there is nothing happening..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Scabbie on October 29, 2005, 04:26:32 PM
I think he means that if Tommy has given up hope of a future with GN'R we're f*cked


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: ppbebe on October 29, 2005, 04:29:03 PM
Why would that be scary??

You'd understand if you were actually a fan of the band. ::)


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum?
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 04:31:25 PM
Why would that be scary??

You'd understand if you were actually a fan of the band. ::)

I am a fan of gnr and axl rose.. You learn to get into a band when they actually play and do videos also release single.. You don't have to research their side projects and replay a bunch of boots...

I have a accepted the new band and love axl rose but I need them to actually play and release something to care about them individually.. Being a gnr fan has nothing to do with liking anyone in this group really besides axl rose..

there are people that hate scott weiland or only like slash that are into vr.. No one can expect each person that likes someone from the past to enjoy whoever just comes along


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on October 29, 2005, 04:40:42 PM
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You don't have to research their side projects and replay a bunch of boots...

Read your previous post well and see if you're making sense.

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You learn to get into a band when they actually play and do videos also release single.

to actually play and release something, they need to stay in the band and shouldn't leave.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 04:46:18 PM
I think he means that if Tommy has given up hope of a future with GN'R we're f*cked

tommy leave gnr, he has been the most optomistic person ever.. it would be the end if members actually gave up hope on something they spent so much time for.. For me personally besides the famous gnr I have no real picture in my mind of this current lineup.. It's not like someone talks to me about gnr and the new names pop up.. So until it starts for REAl anyone to me except axl can come and go..

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Read your previous post well and see if you're making sense.

Well those songs never kept my interest.. it's like the band quickly came and went so I never had  a reason to fall for the individuals.. it's not like the show kept moving on.. I guess if you replay a few things over and over enough it can seem like a band constantly playing..

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to actually play and release something, they need to stay in the band and shouldn't leave.

How long has he been in the band, like since 98? How long can one wait..

My thing was if he left it wouldn't matter to me because new gnr is non existent except if you own the few shows they did..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on October 29, 2005, 04:54:04 PM
Mike reread your posts and others. you're not making any sense than just being an ass.

You just hate this band don't you? Without them, we won't see CD.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 05:00:06 PM
Mike reread your posts and others. you're not making any sense than just wanking.

You just hate this band don't you? Without them, we won't see CD.

I have never said I hate this band.. i said I never got to know the band the way you do others.. I want to hear cd and want to own it but for me personally it doesn't matter who is in the band playing the instruments.. Axl can change the band around again and people will love that band as well.. So as long as axl calls it gnr and is in the band people will like it

if you are a gnr fan and the band changes around but one guy stays behing (axl rose) you most likely want to hear something new because axl rose is still in the band.. So basically my interest so far is because it's gnr and axl rose..

I didn't just like dave kushner from vr.. I didn't like hear a song or see a video and get all into him.. I grew to like his playing because I went to shows and bought an album and saw videos hear tons of interviews..

I just can't be into a band of guys that never release any material for the band they joined..


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on October 29, 2005, 05:27:25 PM
Whether you like any member individually or not is none of my concern. I have fav bands that I don't know each members name.
But face it. If the bassist who made the music together and was the bandmaster for rehearsal left, the band would have to reconstruct everything, from finding the right person. How hard it would be for them and the fans. How long it would take.

If you understood a fans feeling, you couldn't say that.

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Why would that be scary??


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 05:36:55 PM
I don't know how long it would take..  it wasn't anything to really think about.. Sometimes I forget people are really into the members of this band.. Maybe I look through history of gnr and see how they were able to find replacement either for good or short term in a hell of a lot less time then now.. I saw them live and they were all good musicians just never got into them as a band rather then a singer with a familiar name.. I am sure many people here are younger and new gnr fans first then found the older band later

For me I think I see it as losing new gnr would be like missing something I never had or never was.. it's like when you see bucket head as a former member of gnr.. I don't see it because to me he never was a member of gnr.. i could have blinked and his time would have passed.. There's many way to view it.. being I did grow up liking gnr in the 80's I just might have a harder time to just be a fan of each new member because it seems un natural.. If some kid got into van halen in 86 david lee roth might be nothing to him and sammy everything to him when he thinks of van halen..

I am sure there are people on this board that watch their bootlegs shows weekly, and play one of the few songs on their i-pod or I-tunes religiously.. maybe they read all the interviews or see the side shows the guys play.. I just don't so I don't have an ties or close feel to the new guys.. if axl had said I formed a new verison of the new gnr it wouldn't phase me


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: chineseblues on October 29, 2005, 08:51:51 PM
Heres another video from the show in NYC http://downloads.thenewguns.com/bittersweetheart.wmv right click and save as!


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: sweechile on October 30, 2005, 02:55:23 AM
Mike reread your posts and others. you're not making any sense than just wanking.

You just hate this band don't you? Without them, we won't see CD.

I have never said I hate this band.. i said I never got to know the band the way you do others.. I want to hear cd and want to own it but for me personally it doesn't matter who is in the band playing the instruments.. Axl can change the band around again and people will love that band as well.. So as long as axl calls it gnr and is in the band people will like it


At the end of the day,.....or century at this point..,   it couldn't matter at all of who is in this band except the God,  Axl Rose.
I saw the Rock in Rio show,  me from Santiago, and a show in america,   and unlike most of the posters here that keep calling it a failed tour,   it was the greatest rock shows i have ever witnessed!    there was no Insync, NIN tape playback bullshit,  but balls to the wall,  fuk ups and all,  (we cant help tommy fukkin up Oh my god in Rio and also his other blunders on great songs),    but everyones eyes were on Axl all the way,  .....even when he left the stage for bugethead/ robin's  meek solo's.     Everyone waited for Axl to kick some shit into the show.   that's all.    He can have any circus act play next to him,   and he will be the Clown that everyone wants to see and pay their money for!     We love him!    otherwise you would not be here,.....right?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 31, 2005, 11:11:01 AM
Heres another video from the show in NYC http://downloads.thenewguns.com/bittersweetheart.wmv right click and save as!

check out this video from the other night:
misery nyc (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/Misery.wmv)

Thanks RainX and chineseblues for those two videos. There addition to my collection is greatly appreciated : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: ppbebe on October 31, 2005, 01:58:49 PM
Cheers RainX and chineseblues. :D

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it couldn't matter at all of who is in this band except the God,  Axl Rose............................otherwise you would not be here,.....right?

Left. Yes, I would. why not?
As I've stated in the jungle, Chris and Brain are my idols.  :hihi:
Rumour has it that Chris deleted himself but he will be back, I believe.
the God?  :confused: I'm yet to get religion lets alone idol worship.

I don't know how long it would take..  it wasn't anything to really think about.. Sometimes I forget people are really into the members of this band.. Maybe I look through history of gnr and see how they were able to find replacement either for good or short term in a hell of a lot less time then now.. I saw them live and they were all good musicians just never got into them as a band rather then a singer with a familiar name.. I am sure many people here are younger and new gnr fans first then found the older band later

For me I think I see it as losing new gnr would be like missing something I never had or never was.. it's like when you see bucket head as a former member of gnr.. I don't see it because to me he never was a member of gnr.. i could have blinked and his time would have passed.. There's many way to view it.. being I did grow up liking gnr in the 80's I just might have a harder time to just be a fan of each new member because it seems un natural.. If some kid got into van halen in 86 david lee roth might be nothing to him and sammy everything to him when he thinks of van halen..

I am sure there are people on this board that watch their bootlegs shows weekly, and play one of the few songs on their i-pod or I-tunes religiously.. maybe they read all the interviews or see the side shows the guys play.. I just don't so I don't have an ties or close feel to the new guys.. if axl had said I formed a new verison of the new gnr it wouldn't phase me

Again you're knowingly begging the question.
How much you are indifferent to the band members except Axl or not is irrelevant to the matter.

I guess A fan of 'only Tommy' would worry if he's still in the inactive band or not little more than you do, while I personally don't get the mentality fully. I wouldn't call myself a fan of some band unless at least I like the music particular to it, which is, as it were,  the musical chemistry of the band. but oh well, it's still not the point.

The point is if you really wanna see your 'God,  Axl Rose', you better pray for his people to stay. Any Member's departure obviously wouldn't speed the project but hinder. it wouldn't be easy to find a right one to build the band chemistry anew with cos he got to be a trusty on all fronts. internal conflict is the last thing the band needs.

See your posts are so off the mark.
Your mind numbing dead horse should have been posted in the right section.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on November 01, 2005, 11:26:51 AM
here's another video someone dropped into my e-mail (thanks mystery person)

figured i'd upload it for everyone whose interested

this is runaway train

runaway train - right click and save as (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/RunawayTrain.wmv)

and the other two that i put up already i'll put there so you don't have to look

bittersweet heart (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/bittersweetheart.wmv)

misery (http://downloads.thenewguns.com/Misery.wmv)

the person who sent me this one said "last one" so i think that's it - hopefully we'll get an audio boot of one of those shows


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: Pandora on November 01, 2005, 11:56:30 AM
Thanks for all those videos.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: deliverthecow on November 03, 2005, 08:52:59 PM
Those video's were killer. Dave Pirner still sounds great. I hope they continue to tour. They sounded great. Tommy imo really fits in with those guys. I really cant wait to get the new album. I have always been a big fan of SA.


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: rainX on November 04, 2005, 03:38:17 PM
Those video's were killer. Dave Pirner still sounds great. I hope they continue to tour. They sounded great. Tommy imo really fits in with those guys. I really cant wait to get the new album. I have always been a big fan of SA.

So wait - you want Tommy to stay in Soul Asylum and tour with them?


Title: Re: Tommy joins Soul Asylum for two shows
Post by: AxlsMainMan on November 04, 2005, 10:29:36 PM
Those video's were killer. Dave Pirner still sounds great. I hope they continue to tour. They sounded great. Tommy imo really fits in with those guys. I really cant wait to get the new album. I have always been a big fan of SA.

So wait - you want Tommy to stay in Soul Asylum and tour with them?

I certainly hope that isnt the case if something really is going on behind the scenes...however if Tommy does a considerable amount of more shows with SA it would be an inclination to the opposite.