Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Hi Guys, how are you doing?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? This topic is dedicated to explore the dark side of GNR, wich I consider is, the subliminal messages that they might allegedly have printed in some of their songs or covers. For instance? the covers of UYI I and II, suggest images of? demons, wich you can see if you lean the covers against a mirror,? ?its like the cover has half of the picture and with? help of the mirror, you can see the complete demon, its just a detail, I proved? some time ago...? Now talking about the infamous "Backward masking process" well I dont know if Guns n Roses has done that in their albums, since Im not a english born speaker, I can not prove that Cause I barely understand what Axl says in the albums-- even worst I will if I listen to them backwardly--, but honestly even When I consider myself as a Big GNR fan, and I respect Axl, and the original members, I would like to know if they did the "BMP" honestly I think they did something with Locomotive and Dont cry, maybe there are some hidden messages, in those songs, or in some others... I think its important to know these kind of things.... I hope you guys help me in my search for the truth... and if you know something about it post it, and tell us ...? ? ?

   Well thanks for taking a moment to read this...shit daer ot tnemom a gnikat rof sknaht llew

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LMAO,  if u took the front cover of UYI 1 or 2.     Turn the guns logo so ur reading it face up directly,  then zero in on Axls foot.  Its some sort of animal.  Maybe a rat or something.  LOL im serious look at this shit.

Chip, is that you?

~KYI

please go back to sniffing your glue Carlos. ?were more interested in dirt shit talk here, can't you see! ;D

Come on guys, can't you take it seriously....  >:(

 

You said it best yourself.

Im serious about his damn foot.  But i dont see any demons.

Listen to mama kin backwards in the dark, smothered in cottage cheese while dancing with a stuffed teletubbie and you will hear the actual release date for CD.

look that gnr logo in the first page of UYI booket. 2 guns in a bloody circle...

That circle is the bottom of a bullet, penetrating some meat, that's why the blood.

Plus the grey part of the bullet, mixed with the revolver rounds, looks like a skull (viewing it from the air)


there's lots of tips like those in gnr logos.... uyi covers are bullshit

No, im telling u    LOOK at his mOtheringFocking FOOT god damn it.

And if you listen to you ain't the first backwards, axl's hair dresser tells you if he still has braids or not.

What demons?

Yeah, we saw the motherfucking foot.  ;D

Rustycage, I just did what you said. It says CD comes out tomorrow! :D

it has to be tinkie winkie though :D

  ever listen to g n' r music backwards? a friend of mine use to get cd's from columbia house he got uyi 2 when we listened to it the music was all backwards.anyways the song my world the part where axl says something like why won't you talk to me backwards it says" satan come to me". thats no bullshit it is 100% true . has anyone ever heard this before please share your thoughts.

That is the kind of information I was looking for... but Are you serious man? Because no one is really taking this seriously, and it is for me... by the way I wonder if you or any of you guys, can listen to the other albums, "backward"  and tell us what you find...

And talking about the demons, I am gonna post them soon cause I found them.

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Sorry mate, I listened to that part reversed and it's just noise.  :P

Stairway to heaven backwards is still the best one yet!

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/stairway.php

OMG, SOMEONE EMAIL GOD TO VERIFY THIS!!! :o

When you slow down my world i have heard Axl say Satan- at least thats what it sounds like in one part

That is cool man, do you have any other information about other  others that did the same?

I do not think it is intentional but I know Queen's "Another one bites the dust" says something. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/queen.php? The chorus to be exact.

Britney spears' hit me one more time does http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/britney.php and everyone knows about the beatles songs.

There are a ton of songs with backward masking. But just cause ya hear something doesn't make it intentional.

But back on topic, I SERIOUSLY doubt that GNR did it.

All that backwards play stuff is bullshit, I read somewhere that by playing almost anything you can get messages, just like that bible code thing, you can get messages of the death of Tony Blair amongst others in I think it was Moby Dick. Next of all we'll be hearing. "I will come for your family" in Britney Spears records.

The stairway to heaven backwards is probably deliberate. If not from the band, from someone from the record comapany. I have an mp3 of a demo in 71 and the words in the contested part are different. Maybe they guessed it would be a huge success and changed the words of it  :-X
The "another one bites the dust" is unaffected. Have you ever seen a song that it's been sang that way.  :hihi:

Excellent man, you really know about this, I wonder if you know about another artists, cause this kind of things catch my attention, thanks...

Feel free to show information about other artists, and Gnr, maybe they did it, maybe not... they are cool anyway...

i shit you guys not in my world axl says satan come to me.i still have the tape of it. i had to have a copy of it.but that was like 10 years ago i have moved alot in that time.i wish i could find to prove it to all.if someone else finds it post it.

listen to patience backwards, the beging where duff says 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. you can here him say "please help me"

Hey jamie, Im so glad that you read somewhere that all that backwards stuff is bullshit. Now i know this is bullshit.


Anyways, That stairway to heaven stuff is fuking brilliant.  The chances that a whole 30 second verse containing quite a few sentences and to have it all make sense and u can clearly here it.  And the point of what hes sayin in reverse is opposite of the foward part.  Yep after all this,  its gotta be bullshit.  Jamie said its bullshit, trust me, he read it somewhere.

Really man? that is interesting, why would he say, something like that?

So far, we have info about two backward situation in GNR albums, lets look for more, and confirm them....

Anyway Some of you are just like my old teachers... Teaching something "their"way, and when you try to  refute the information or try to add new ideas, to something they dont care and just keep the old way.... never open minded.... anyway.

why is it bullshit?     Can anyone please tell me why without using curse words?


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I think alot of its bullshit, But in the stairway to heave song, that was intentional.  My post just above was sarcastic as I am pissed to people who cant think and make there mind up by themselves.

As for the Duff (help me) part.  I believe he did it subconsciously, and didnt know he did it.
Subconscious mind is by far superior than anything and can do that kind of shit.  I know most people will disagree about this, but i dont give a shit. If u dont believe prove me wrong.  Otherwise shut up. ;)

So you think that when Duff calls the timing of the song to get it started that it is really his subconscious crying for help?

Um, I think you should prove it's true that instead of expecting someone to prove you wrong. You guys are reading into this way too much. It is all coincedence. It's this same way of thinking that had Judas Priest in court!

To think that the artist was purposely playing the recording backwards over and over just to try to perfect a half-assed backwards message is a reach!

Every artist has the rigt to say anything they want on their material. More so now than in the past. so why must they resort to hiding what they want to say? Prove that it was done intenionally before trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

Only a fool draws facts from his own opinions instead the other way around. ::)

what in the name of blue jaysus are you on. I for one dont believe in this hidden msg stuff granted the stairway to heaven one was interesting, but i dont think it was  intentional. 

Put AFD cover upside down, it comes a CROSS UPSIDE DOWN, man thats satanic!

http://www.reversespeech.com/music_reversals.htm

site about reverse speech and that page is about music

check out the events bit as well, like niel armstrong on the moon

I dont believe any of it, its just conicidence, and i certainly dont think GNR did any. That patience duffs cry for help thing is utter rubbish, but intresting topic none the less

Yeah and heres to the wanker that told me to prove what i was talkin about.  www.reversespeech.com/framestairway.htm


This is about the stairway to heaven song.  Anyways this wanker wrote a whole fukin book on it.  And theres alot more messages in the stairway to heaven song.  He also believes his unconsicous mind did this too.  Like i said, it can happen.

Don't eat the yellow snow.

Hey, I'm sure people put that sort of stuff in deliberately, Stairway to Heaven for example, but what I find to be bullshit is how people search through songs and find stupid little two second blurs of nothing and claim it to be something, that's what's bullshit.

Hey "boys" this thread is not about that kind of people, but  is dedicated to discover if GNR put messages in their songs.
So far we ve got 2...

I eat my own thoughts.

Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backward_messages#Deliberate_messages

carlos, dude, subliminal messaging does exist. it's been proven, this is true, but if there's anything in gn'r songs i doubt they meant to do it. axl was great with the crowd and would't do anything that would drive them away.



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by the way, how do you play songs backwards anyhow?



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"For instance  the covers of UYI I and II, suggest images of  demons, wich you can see if you lean the covers against a mirror"


I never thought to do that. I don't think i'm gonna start now either  ;D

One thing i did notice. If you take the booklet out from the UYI cd cover and flick through the pages very fast, the lyrics become impossible to read. This also happends on the UYI II booklet. How strange  ;D

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Wasnt UYI covers from some Michael Angelo work?

Hi guys, how are you doing?

    Izzy Rose, you are right man, backwards have always existed, and I couldnt prove that GNR had that on their albums, and I hope they dont, nor CD will have it. Talking about the  covers, Mr. Dick you are right too, the covers of the Illusions were inspired by a part of a picture. I hope to be able to put the link to it soon.   :peace:

No? I don't know where you have heard that from, It was Mark Kostabi.
 

Put a link to that Johna...

Just go and look on your Use Your Illusion cd.

And my name is Jonathan, not Johna.

Well I wondered if you could show a link for that picture man. Johnatan.  :peace:

Mark Kostabi: http://www.artquotes.net/artists/kostabi/artist-photo-kostabi.jpg

For more information, look at HTGTH or here, http://www.artquotes.net/artists/kostabi/use-your-illusions.htm.

Still, my name is Jonathan. So do not call me Johnatan, again.

Thanks Jonathan.  But I was talking about the original art that inspired the illusions cover part of the complete picture is the cover of the illusions. Actually this guy Mark Kostabi only changed the colors and some little things to it.

well i tried the foot to rat thing on paint and whoever said it is on some sort of laced crack or something. Anyways can someone get a picture of the whole "demon thing". I'm curious to see it as I don't actually own any of the albums (shame on me I download everything)

Wait a little man, Im learning how to upload things from my slow computer.

School Of Athens (http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Diagrams/School_of_Athens.jpeg)

Raphael's School of Athens depicts the great Greek Philosophers engaging in Socratic elenctic debate at the agora in Athens.



/jarmo

Impresive, honestly I didnt see the complete picture before, thanks !

They're missing waldo there...

Dude, its an original Kostabi.  If you go to his website, the painting is the actual UYI 1 cover.  For UYI2 they just turned it blue.

And the name of the painting is Use Your Illusions.
http://www.markkostabi.com/paintings/useyourillusions-01.jpg

I dont think its original since it takes a part of Raphael's School of Athens Garry.

Hmmm, I don't see it.  Do you mean the background???  Cuz I'm just talking about the white dude with the pen and notepad.  Yeah, I suppose its the background just reversed of the guy sitting up front.

Well I'd rather listen to GN'R foward more than I would backwards,who would waste their time listening to the songs backwards,well I guess that'd be cool if you were high or something :peace:

I guess you are right man.