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Im listening to last saturdays Camp Freddy radio with Matt Sorum and Billy Morrison.
and Matt is telling this story about GN'R opening for The Cult in 86 or 87 (he's not sure).
and at this time, Axl was wearing his hair really big.
and he says, supposedly Ian Astbury went into the dressing room and talks to Axl and says something like "you're a really great frontman, but the hair is just all wrong." then he gave Axl a bandanna and told him to put the hair down straight and wrap it around his head.

Matt doesn't know if it's a true story or not, but he says Ian still tells it to this day. ;D
Billy then asks Matt if Axl would remember that, and Matt says "probably not, not back then", whatever that means :hihi:

Cool story!  : ok:

I think there's a huge span of time that Axl can't remember things.  :P

Since he liked Aerosmith so much, I would have thought that he got the bandana idea from STeven...

I remember seeing some The Cult video once were Ian was definitely sporting a bandana & walking with his microphone like Axl would later be doing in the WTJ video. I immediately noticed a similarity between the two. There's certainly nothing wrong with having influences & listening to good advice if this story is true.

And i guess Ian took it from Willy Nelson, so hes not the inventer of the bandana eather... :confused:

 :hihi:  Yeah, Willy was Axl's influence.

I guess I don't remeber anyone saying Ian Astbury invented the bandana. Is there a point to your post?

Then, Who invented the Bandana? ???

I've heard this before....Do they tell you what the Japanese for "Worlds End" is? and how to make a pint of snake bite? If so,  Falcon posted the link for the radio a few days ago. It's fun.  I hope you can still hear it.

Hey! Dont take it to heart man, only a joke.. ?:hihi:

I think the singer from the Eagles used a bandana as well.
Blaming Axl for using a bandana is like blaming Slash for using double guitars like Jimmy Page from Zeppelin did.  : ok:

It's just where I come from, jokes are supposed to be funny.

Where on earth did anyone here blame axl for wearing a bandana? Tons of performers have worn bandanas, so what exactly is your point?

Oh I Get it! you just want to piss off the board members, yes?  : ok:

Who's blaming anyone?  :confused:  It was just a mention on where Axl got the idea/incentive to change from big hair to straight with a bandana - geez.

In case someone does blames ;D

non of us dickheads are gonna figure out who made the bandana, its been around for fuckin' years man ::),

i saw Ian at the Door of the 21st Century show and he was a fuckin' rock god man, but before the show, outside they played some Cult film clips and Ians hair is just as huge as any 80's goer :hihi:

Ian may have gave Axl the bandana but it's been around for years!! : ok:

How the fuck would Matt know what the hell Axl remembers anyway, Axl doesnt need to talk about your fat arse so shut the fuck up Matt!! >:(    even though it wasnt a bad thing you said, but i garentee whatever you say before and after is gonna be a stab at Axl. ::)

anyone here paranoid on Axl's behalf or something?
I can't remember blaming him for something, and it really didn't sound like Matt tried to blame him for anything on the radio either.

Matt was just telling a story he's heard from Ian Astbury, what the fuck, and he didn't try to make any stabs towards Axl before or after that...Ive heard Matt talk about Axl before on the show, and to me it just sounds like he's telling funny stories about a legend that he's got great respect for.
the other guys are usually like "really?..wow", the same way they respond to cool stories about other legends.
Matt worked with a living legend, and of course, there is plenty of good stories from that time!
he talks about Slash the same way btw. in a funny way, but you can hear what great respect he's got for him too.

I've been a Cult fan since 1984 and have never ever seen Ian's "hair is just as huge as any 80's goer". ?Bandana's, ponytails, straight, spiked, shaved but never "huge"..

Anyway, I digress. ..

Maybe Ian suggested the change for Axl, who knows. ?It makes for a good story though..

I've realized that a long time ago :yes:

Speaking of Axl's big hair, ever saw the 1986 flick "The Labyrinth?" Think of David Bowie's "do" and Axl's in the Welcome to the Jungle video, they look alike ,don't they?

Yes they do look very similar. David Bowie and Axl also had alot of parallels when it came to Axl's escentric wandrome and unpredictable stage presence during the UYI period.

ah c'mon man maybe it was a little fare, but his hair was pretty big :yes:

Yes, Axl was very influenced by other peoples style at the time, like anyone.  I suppose he liked different pieces of peoples clothing styles and took them and re-invented them to make them his own!!  : ok:

Nope, never seen it "big". 

I've seen that crazy fucker in many a different look over the years (not all good either) but never any kind of teased out big hair mode ala Axl in the early days...

Indeed  :)

Indeed Indeed!!!  : ok:  : ok:

INDEEEEEEEEEEEEEED (Funaki style) :D

Inddeeeeddddoooiiiii!!! (Kath and Kim Styoile!!)  : ok:

HA, I made a comment about this a while ago when someone said Scott was copying Axl.

No, I own the Pure Cult DVD and have all of the videos they released. Ian had straight, Jet black hair down to the small of his back. Maybe the "Love Removal Machine" video where its styled different. But no "Big 80's Hair"

I think Axl's hair in 'Jungle' video is his greatest look ever!    he looks so badass and a mean mofuker
 the cult have always just been posers who looked pretty faggy,  maybe thats why they got Matt

your spelling is awful and would you please try to make sense when you post

thanks

I understand clintons posts, well at least better than mine. And hey, Mattgnr. you too, don't ya? :hihi:


the older kids used to tell me Ian was a wanker and I never get it.
Lookin faggy or not, The cult made some great songs. And GN'R got Matt too. What's your point, Miss? ???

The point being sweetchile is just trying to stir shit up, nothing intellegent by any means..

Ian's always been a bit crazy, he'll be the first to tell you that.? Bandana's nonwithstanding he's also credited with providing the blueprint for Lollapalooza with his Gathering Of The Tribes Festival and coining the term "goth" in relation to the music scene in London..

He was a huge GNR supporter early on as well, insisting the come on tour with The Cult after seeing GNR at the Marquee Club in London in 87'.? He actally mentioned that show last year in an intefview, saying it was one of his favorite concert memories.? I'll see if I can dig up the article.

Cool story.. I always saw hanoi rock's videos and saw a definite clothing influence for gnr..

What?

Falcon I never knew that.  I thought he might have been pissed at Axl because of Matt.

I told ya! Mattgnr.  :rofl:
No it shouldn't be funny....I should be ashamed of myself. :-[

Matt had yet to join The Cult when Ian and Billy hooked up with GNR.? He became a touring member in 89' in support of Sonic Temple and later was the catalyst for The Cult reforming in early 99'.? When Matt was offered the job with GNR he had full blessings of Ian and Billy, they had no plans of using him in the studio at that time.

dude, maybe it was live, i swear it was The Cult,  but if your totally convinced then it's cool man :-\     i take it back :o

what the fuck do you get off replyin' once in a blue moon but only to cry about my spellin' n' shit.   

im not here to impress you....Dont worry Matt i think about you too. :-*

axl should go back to wearing the bandana, he looked cooler then

Why don't you shut up? It made sense, if you don't like it don't read it.

phhhfft, I can read it - get some literacy!!!

Your input wasn't necessary, thanks.

Gosh!! Sorry....  >:(


I wasn't saying that for your purpose - I was saying it for mine...

We need less negativity on this board!!  :no:

Oh,  so that is where Axl got his beard idea for later on :peace:

Hoo Hoo, Robin, I invented the Bandana... Tell 'em Fred, I was doing that long before anyone and all the rock stars ripped me off. Hoo Hoo, Howard Stern invented everything.

Bubba St. Rose, Are you Howard Stern or Father Christmas (a bit too early appearance tho)? :D

lol! Axl talking style tips from Ian Astbury? :hihi: still, Ian's the man!!!? :peace:

I told Axl to tie a bandana around his car and girls would get naked...

Hello... Exactly! LOL