Here Today... Gone To Hell!

If you go to Robin Finck's website, he has moveon.org on his links section, which is a very leftest site.

I wonder how Axl Rose feels about Bush, his views on Iraq, and so on. He made some statements about the gulf war in '91, but that was years ago.

I wonder if Robin is an influence on Axl. Just curious.

I don't think Robin has any influence on axl nor does anyone for that matter he just seems to choose his own path

There's more than just "right" and "left".? ;)

But to be honest, I'd much rather have them keeping their political views for themselves. If they want to make a statement, they should write a song, because after all that's what they are - musicians.

Robin's website isn't much about music though. It appears to be more like the personal playground of a beautiful mind.

Anyway, I've always lost a lot of repect for artists who got too involved in politics - no matter if I agreed with their views or not. I think it's wrong. If artists feel like using their position and influence as an artist to make a political statement and inspire people, then they should to that directly by making that statement through their art or else shut the fuck up.

In the 60's people like Bob Dylan and The Doors would write protest songs and express their political opinion. That had a much better impact and influence on people and the society than Bono discussing the third world's debt with Tony Blair over tea. Willie Nelson playing for the farmers - that was pretty cool.

Thats bullshit mate >:(, Axl brings out the best in everyone, n' they've all said that.

I used to think Axl should do a song about 9/11. But now that I think about it, maybe he shouldn't. When CD comes out, he needs to let people have an open mind about it,and not piss certain people off just because of one song. Remember when the Dixie Chicks made some comments about Bush, and people started booing them everywhere they went? Axl doesn't need that kind of bullshit.

Axl's talented enough to write a song that doesn't necessarily take sides...like Civil War.  Yes, it's anti-war, but it doesn't get into specific wars.   

Also, I'm glad to hear Robin has some good political sense.  ;) 

 If artists feel like using their position and influence as an artist to make a political statement and inspire people, then they should to that directly by making that statement through their art or else shut the fuck up.

Conny, that's one fucked-up statement.  Just because they're famous, they're not allowed to express their opinions???  Sounds like "Chinese Democracy" to me.  ;)

 :peace:


   

I didn't say they're not allowed to have or express their opinion. It just comes down to what Bono you prefer - the Bono of 1983 singing "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or the Bono of 2005. The intension is the same, but the expression is different.

 :peace:

They should keep their politic opinion for themself. We ask them to make music, to record albums and to tour, not to make politic.

I'd still be a fan of Axl, no matter what his views are. However, I'd be disapointed if he were a right-winger like Gene Simmons.

well, doesent the red star on the new GNR logo give us a pointing finger?

oh my god! Axl has turned communist! :o ;D

I didn't say they're not allowed to have or express their opinion. It just comes down to what Bono you prefer - the Bono of 1983 singing "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or the Bono of 2005. The intension is the same, but the expression is different.

 :peace:

I hear where you're coming from, but honestly, you've got to be able to separate the art from the personal life. ?I enjoy Billie Jean, Beat It, Thriller, Remember the Time...but that doesn't mean I support holding a kid over a balcony, or sleeping with boys.

Also, the Bono of 22 years later has realized he can help those who are less fortunate in more ways than music ever could. ? :peace: ?

"So I never fell for Vietnam, weve got the Wall of D.C. to remind us all that you cant trust freedom when its not in your hands..."


Agreed.  :yes:


Agreed.  If somebody is passionate about their views and wants to use their fame to make a difference, why not?  However, it certainly does risk alienating people. 

I know that Tommy is not a fan of the current administration and even thought about touring blue states only if I recall correctly. 

The problem with musicians expressing their opinion is that they use their influence to force a large group of people hear one persons opinion.  They aren't any more informed about political situations then anyone else, and most of the time less informed and completly ignorant of situations.  What ends up happening is you have little teenagers believing whatever musicians and actors say, which is pretty fucking stupid.  Musicians should play music.  If they want to be a political band, that's their perrogative and they can say whatever they want in their music, but if not, stay the fuck out of it.  Too many musicians abuse their influence over people, especially younger kids.  Now, telling people to stay informed and look at both sides of an issue, that's a good thing.

Freedom of speech = only good if you like what they have to say.

I don't care if the person reads my mind on national television, I've got no respect for someone who abuses their power.  Musicians that have influence also have a responsibility to their audience that they don't go beyond their scope.  If they want to spend their time working for an organization (without using their fame) or money to support an issue, they are more then welcome to. 

They are people aswell, they are allowed to have opinions...  :yes:

Wish Scotty boy would take that advice...

If I had to guess, Im sure RObin and Axl and some of the other members get into some political discussions. If I had to guess I would bet Axl is anti Bush.

Kinda about the topic.....

That another thing why Im eager to hear CD. I wanna hear whats on Axls mind about the world. The guy seems to be exploring many different types of things over the years. ALonmg with being a comic. Thats whats great about Axl. Hopefully we get to hear from him...lets go lets go lets go!

You don't think CD is a political song?

Civil war is pretty straight forward in it's views, not hard to read into.

Tesla did a great song called "Heaven 9-11", good enough for me to buy my first Tesla album ever, great song.

People are people. Nobody cares about our opinions because we aren't famous. If we were, we'd be sharing them still, just with a microphone in front of our face.

I think any international musician can't help but share Robins feelings.

artists should express their sentiments eloquently on whatever they're into.
I don't like it when the art is used for some propaganda campaign by any political party.


But you've said you don?t care about lyrics so many times..