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Title: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: GNRisSLASH on August 21, 2005, 08:17:04 PM
Take this how you want.  I'm just relaying what I learned.  It sounds plausible and the guy who told me certainly had no reason to make it up, nor do I.

Anyway, last night I was at a bar with a group of people.  On of them has a brother who is currently works for GnR.  He's been a roadie and other things for the band for a long time.  In any event, the GnR roadie told his brother 3 interesting things that I'll pass along.

1) CD has gone through 3 complete iterations.  The first was completed and then scrapped.  The second was also basically finished and scrapped even though there was enough material for 2 albums.  Each time the material was scrapped because it was felt (dont' know by who) that the stuff wasn't current with today's music.  GnR is now working on what is basically round 3.

2) The guy said his brother was working with GnR as recently as 2 weeks ago in the studio and they were rehearsing things.  I guess this bodes well. Didn't say who was rehearsing.

3) Most interesting - he claims Axl was indeed in Philly for the final show of their botched 2002 tour, not in NY as many claim.  Now get ready for this: Claims that Axl saw some woman in the audience he wanted brought backstage, like in the ol' days.  Only the woman was married or something and refused.  Axl threw a fit and left the arena.  Sounds pretty amazing to me but again, the guy knew what he was talking about and his bro works for the band.

Figured I'd pass it along to the board. 


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: ClintroN on August 21, 2005, 08:23:48 PM
why would Axl get cut at some women in the crowd.......then fuck off :no:

thanx for the news dude, last paragraph is bullshit though.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Saul on August 21, 2005, 08:37:13 PM
I think everyone has a friend of a friend or a distant uncle or some schmuck working for GNR. Thats how we all get our ultra secret inside news.  : ok:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: nesquick on August 21, 2005, 08:39:22 PM
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Each time the material was scrapped because it was felt (dont' know by who) that the stuff wasn't current with today's music.

wow...was Appetite current with 1987's music? was Nevermind current with the 1991's music? No they werent, and that's why they were so successfull. If it's true, I hope CD won't sound like fucking nu-metal after 12145148 remixes! A great album is a great album and that's it.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: jimmythegent on August 21, 2005, 08:46:11 PM
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Each time the material was scrapped because it was felt (dont' know by who) that the stuff wasn't current with today's music.

wow...was Appetite current with 1987's music? was Nevermind current with the 1991's music? No they werent, and that's why they were so successfull. If it's true, I hope CD won't sound like fucking nu-metal after 12145148 remixes! A great album is a great album and that's it.

thats true
it actually is heartening to think that CD is being encouraged as a timeless album, non-specific to genre or era


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: RnT on August 21, 2005, 10:25:15 PM
THANK GOD A RUMOR !!!!!


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: vicarious existence on August 21, 2005, 10:30:29 PM
THANK GOD A RUMOR !!!!!
It's been a while hasn't it?  ;)


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: killingvector on August 21, 2005, 10:54:22 PM
Iterations are good for rock n roll.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on August 21, 2005, 11:08:02 PM
I think the rumor is bullshit. The first album that was ike oh my god, riyadh and silkworms was scrapped since that is the album they made with Freese, Finck and Tobais, but I find it hard to  believe if gnr did infact finish the album a 2nd time in 2002 or 2003 that interscope would not just keep it and release it .  If there really was two albums worth they would have just taken the 15 best and made it CD.  Esp with the last line, I think its all bullshit.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 21, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
We love rumors!!!

 :P


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on August 22, 2005, 12:13:22 AM
How does a roadie know so much inside info? BS!


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Crashdiet on August 22, 2005, 12:30:29 AM
I have a friend who was one of GNR's lighting tech's on the last tour and he told me the same thing about philly. That axl wanted this chick to come back stage and it didn't happen so he stormed out. I posted the same thing about a year ago.... no one believed me though... but that's what i heard about philly too.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: SLCPUNK on August 22, 2005, 02:24:37 AM
I have a friend who was one of GNR's lighting tech's on the last tour and he told me the same thing about philly. That axl wanted this chick to come back stage and it didn't happen so he stormed out. I posted the same thing about a year ago.... no one believed me though... but that's what i heard about philly too.


Maybe that guy read it here a year ago and has been blabbing ever since...... :hihi:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: jimmythegent on August 22, 2005, 05:01:45 AM
The point i'd like to make is that GN'R would have been afforded a creative misstep or two, several years ago.?

They had established themselves as a global force that could transcend genres and fads. Fans and the public at large would have forgiven them if they'd put out an album not as strong as it's predecessors..

I fear that luxury won't be afforded now given the ridiculous length of time Axl has made his fans wait and wait in the dark at that.

Hence CD really is 'all or nothing'.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: DustNroses on August 22, 2005, 07:43:56 AM
The point i'd like to make is that GN'R would have been afforded a creative misstep or two, several years ago.?

They had established themselves as a global force that could transcend genres and fads. Fans and the public at large would have forgiven them if they'd put out an album not as strong as it's predecessors..

I fear that luxury won't be afforded now given the ridiculous length of time Axl has made his fans wait and wait in the dark at that.

Hence CD really is 'all or nothing'.
:hihi:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: horsey on August 22, 2005, 10:13:06 AM
i believe axl was in philly that night though.i had a strange thing happen i can't get into about that night.i felt him  there.i knew he was watching the crowd reactions.it doesn't make sense but believe me i know he was there that night,maybe not on stage but there anywayz.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Saul on August 22, 2005, 10:48:57 AM
i believe axl was in philly that night though.i had a strange thing happen i can't get into about that night.i felt him  there.i knew he was watching the crowd reactions.it doesn't make sense but believe me i know he was there that night,maybe not on stage but there anywayz.

confirmation , awesome!  : ok:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: ckgent on August 22, 2005, 12:43:07 PM
for fuck sake!!! give the guy a break. He tries to tell you something that may be true and the majority jump on him.

If i ever am in the position to pass on news, then i dont think i will bother. I actually spent time with people that genuinly did work for gn'r back in the day and the chat was interesting, and as informative as it could be. This was back in 2002, 3 months before the euro tour, while i spent some time in la.

If you dont wanna believe him, keep it to yourself.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: horsey on August 22, 2005, 12:57:58 PM
ok i wasn't going to say this but....
i thought i was going crazy right.we were at the concert the  one in philly.me and my sister were going to the consesion stand.and coming up the escalator was this guy in a blonde wig looking fake as hell too.i looked at him not even thinking it could be axl.after i left the concert i started thinking hey that was axl !
but like i said i thought nothing of it at the time just this wierd little feeling inside.the guy walked over and stood up at the wall with one leg up.just standing there watching the crowds.who knows right axl could have been there and noone was the wiser.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Krispy Kreme on August 22, 2005, 01:04:22 PM
I have a friend who was one of GNR's lighting tech's on the last tour and he told me the same thing about philly. That axl wanted this chick to come back stage and it didn't happen so he stormed out. I posted the same thing about a year ago.... no one believed me though... but that's what i heard about philly too.


If it is true, then Axl is even more volatile than we ever expected, which does not augur well for long-suffering fans.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: eraser on August 22, 2005, 01:05:59 PM
i believe axl was in philly that night though.i had a strange thing happen i can't get into about that night.i felt him? there.i knew he was watching the crowd reactions.it doesn't make sense but believe me i know he was there that night,maybe not on stage but there anywayz.

what the...?

you felt him? is there some kind of weird jedi force between you 2?


"Story like that has got to be true." - Kramer in The Summer of George


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: horsey on August 22, 2005, 01:09:37 PM
no nothing wierd like that.but when the guy came up the escalator i felt him as i looked at him.thinking later what if it was axl.you know just a wierd feeling inside.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: nesquick on August 22, 2005, 01:11:20 PM
The MSG'02 show might be the last Axl show ever...I hope not, but this is a possibility.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: ppbebe on August 22, 2005, 01:15:45 PM
no nothing wierd like that.but when the guy came up the escalator i felt him as i looked at him.thinking later what if it was axl.you know just a wierd feeling inside.
Maybe the rumoured woman in 3) was you, horsey?


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How does a roadie know so much inside info?

Only those who don't know much talk?

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Iterations are good for rock n roll.

It needs some evolution.  >:(

PS: we aren't necessarily saying the topic starter is BSing.
Most of us know He's just passing the rumour that happened to sound BS to many.
thanks Slashisgod anyway. : ok:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: horsey on August 22, 2005, 01:16:35 PM
who knows but i think we will hear from axl again.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: dirtyballs on August 22, 2005, 01:17:47 PM
If this rumour turns out to be true then axl has gone copletly nuts.

UP MY ASS FELLOWS

#yiiiihhhhaaaa!!!!

 :peace:


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Rob on August 22, 2005, 04:06:13 PM
3) Most interesting - he claims Axl was indeed in Philly for the final show of their botched 2002 tour, not in NY as many claim.? Now get ready for this: Claims that Axl saw some woman in the audience he wanted brought backstage, like in the ol' days.? Only the woman was married or something and refused.? Axl threw a fit and left the arena.? Sounds pretty amazing to me but again, the guy knew what he was talking about and his bro works for the band.

Figured I'd pass it along to the board.?

That really doesn't sound like something Axl would do.  But the dudes from CKY did say Axl was there during their set, so who knows?  If something that petty cost me my only chance to see Axl I'm quite pissed.  He better have a better reason than that.


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: jimmythegent on August 22, 2005, 05:43:52 PM
The point i'd like to make is that GN'R would have been afforded a creative misstep or two, several years ago.?

They had established themselves as a global force that could transcend genres and fads. Fans and the public at large would have forgiven them if they'd put out an album not as strong as it's predecessors..

I fear that luxury won't be afforded now given the ridiculous length of time Axl has made his fans wait and wait in the dark at that.

Hence CD really is 'all or nothing'.
:hihi:

Care to elaborate/contribute something to the discussion??


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Cornell on August 22, 2005, 05:58:57 PM


3) Most interesting - he claims Axl was indeed in Philly for the final show of their botched 2002 tour, not in NY as many claim.? Now get ready for this: Claims that Axl saw some woman in the audience he wanted brought backstage, like in the ol' days.? Only the woman was married or something and refused.? Axl threw a fit and left the arena.? Sounds pretty amazing to me but again, the guy knew what he was talking about and his bro works for the band.

 

 :o  I promised my husband to keep that quiet!


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: erose on August 22, 2005, 08:05:02 PM
i'd be so fucking happy if those rumours turnes out to be true!... but what's the chances....


Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: Chief on August 23, 2005, 01:30:08 AM
i wonder if any of the older songs that didn't make it (perhaps from an older "interation" of the album) would make it on a bsides disc.. i seem to recall Axl talking about a disc of b-sides at a show on the 2002 tour...



Title: Re: GnR News/Rumor - take it for what it's worth
Post by: GNRisSLASH on August 23, 2005, 01:37:23 AM
I have a friend who was one of GNR's lighting tech's on the last tour and he told me the same thing about philly. That axl wanted this chick to come back stage and it didn't happen so he stormed out. I posted the same thing about a year ago.... no one believed me though... but that's what i heard about philly too.


Certainly makes it more plausible, huh?  Again - the guy I was hangin' with was simply relating to me stories his brother told him about his days working in rock. His bro has worked with tons of bands since the 80s.  He told me many other interesting stories about other bands.  Of course, being a GnR fan, the GnR ones were most interesting to me.  This was not a case of a brother's friend's uncles, neighbor's former roommate.  This was the guy's brother that works for the band.  Now you talk about a friend who was a lighting tech and have the same story.  Either the band's employees came up with a crazy story, or it's very possibly true.  Is this any stranger than the stories that came out after '02 that Axl threw a fit outside a club in NY when he was supposedly rejected for wearing fur or something?