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I was there and also saw it on the dvd bootleg....when he is introducing the band, he says "Brain" and brain starts to play the intro to Rock n Roll by Zeppelin. And axl says, sarcastically, "Its a car commercial"


all i can say is...atleast they are doing something wit htheir music. not that they have to, they fuckin are led fuckin zeppelin!!!!!!

it's called being a sellout? :o

do you really wanna think of a fucking car or pepsi or a stupid movie or something everytime you hear Paradise City or Sweet Child?? :nervous: I don't, that's what slash and duff want though, as much cash as possible by exploiting classic GnR tunes

Rock and roll is supposed to rebel against the system and now rock icons (Zepplin) are helping to sell cadillacs to rich old people. think about it

you hit the nail right on the head though. why sell the song to a corporation, they are Led fucking Zepplin. they don't need exposure like that people will buy and listen to their music regardless

Axl doesn't have room to make fun of anybody, he's the laughing stock of the rock world now, more so than Fred Durst.  At least Durst puts albums out, shitty as they may be.

axl always as something to say about somebody, almost everyshow he rants about someone or something, why would that time be any different.

I don't think he's a laughing stock...  he's a non-entity. he doesn't exist in the rock world right now.  Fred Durst hasn't made waves since Limp's 3rd album why drag his sorry ass into this topic?  :-\

neemo, i actually agree with you. i dont want to think of SCOM every time i see an ad for Match.com or think of Paradise City everytime there is a commercial for Florida real estate.

but...

was Axl making fun of the mighty led zeppelin, live, on stage, at Madison Square Garden??? That's kinda fucked up. As much as i love Axl, zeppelin are like the GodFathers, they demand respect.

on the Zeppelin DVD Axl was filmed !?!?

Maybe Led Zeppelin don't own the publishing rights to their own songs and therefore have nothing to say about who can or cannot use their music?

I don't know but that a possibility since they are from the time that a lot of bands signed bad contracts.

i think he was just voicing his dissapproval at that decision, cuz he is working soo hard so that it doesn't happen to GnR material

It is possible SADIS, i don't know much about zepplin so that could be. I don't think so though, we would probably have seen something on the news about it if Led Zepplin were against selling their music to Cadillac

True, nonentity would be more accurate. ?Durst was brought up because when I think of somebody being a joke I think Durst. ?Axl has become a joke to me. ?I would have rather seen him OD and die than to sit through 12 years of BS.

The mighty Zep sold the rights to that one song just to be used for Cadillac.  Please don't disrespect the greatest band ever to walk the earth.  Thanks. : ok:

Gild...thats a fucked up remark. we'll all pretend you didnt say that. someone not releasing music vs. wanting them dead are two separate things dude. i personally wish William Bailey the best, but I wish Axl Rose would release CD already.

with regards to Zeppelin...im sure they own their music, or atleast some blues men like Willie Dixon do! LOLOL. but seriously, if you're reading this and have never got too into zeppelin, please try again. they are AMAZING>. I suggest buying the first album, and fourth album if you're on a budget. (or just download these songs lolol)

1. Babe Im Gonna Leave You. from LZ I....amazing song. (joan baez anyone? lol) this song is crucial to any LZ catalogue.
2. Since Ive Been Loving You......OMG, an intense, awesome work.
3. How Many More Times......catchy, awesome 1969 classic

there are so many, we could all type for days. i prefer the earlier zeppelin...the blues-rock infusion, but the older stuff was cool too.

Jimmy Page completely owns Led Zeppelin all the rites...or so I believe..Plant mite be in on it too.

I dont think he was making fun of them at all. Zeppelin is one of his favorite bands and Rock and Roll is one of his favorite Zeppelin songs. He even used to sing it in the 80s. I'm pretty sure he was just saying how he was disappointed that it was used in a car commercial. Not making fun of them. Even I was mad that Rock And Roll was used in that commercial, it was stupid, the song has nothing to do with Cadillacs, and for people that will bash me, Zeppelin is my second favorite band.

If i can only listen to two bands for the rest of my life, without a doubt Led Zeppelin is the other band! :)

As far as I remember he's introducing Brain who then plays the drum intro to "Rock & Roll". Axl then comments on that saying it's a car commercial.


Is he making fun of Led Zeppelin or just joking? Is it possible that Axl has a sense of humor?




/jarmo

but he introduce brain to the camera?
can somebody upload this parto on the net? didn?t know that Axl showed up on the dvd

I thought it was just sort of a joke since it's one of the best and most well known Zeppelin songs, but there are still people who will hear and and think "Hey that's in a car commercial" not even knowing what it is.

I have to disagree; if Axl cared so much, he wouldn't have sold his share of the rights to GNR's songs to Sanctuary.

I don't care how much I love Led Zep, Axl is a funny guy.

Let us not forget , WTTJ is the theme song for a freaking videogame commercial.

I'm sure Axl was just joking , as he has said countless times in interviews how much he loves Led Zep's music.

Hard to compare Zepp to GnR. Zepp recorded two albums in 1969. They toured alot. True, they didnt release singles and didnt like the press so much, but the music was there and you could actually listen to your favorite band put out new albums. that must have been cool for the fans in the 70s. but i think its safe to assume they loved playing, performing, writing, recording....etc. etc.

With Axl....who knows what he loves. does he really love playing, performing, writing, recording.....doesn't really seem like it. but whatever the case may be, two great bands, IMO the 2 best bands of all-time.

That IS true.....the GTA:SA commercials have WTTJ.....hhhmmm......

Plant introduces Page....Page plays intro WTTJ riff to fuck around...Plant says " Its a video game "



In the past few years, I have slowed down on GnR news...can someone tell me....how was Jungle used for GTA? is it in fact true that Axl sold his rights to GnR catalogue to Sanctuary????

Yes , he did sell "publishing" rights.

And btw , axl himself was a voice actor for the videogame.

OK, I'm gonna end all the bullshit about why R&R was played at MSG.  Brain played it because Zeps AT landmark sell-out at MSG in the early 70's, Boham started their set with R&R, it's on "The Song Remains The Same DVD".  thats obviously why Brain did that when he was introduced.

and publishing rights is only the rights to publish lyrics and musical notation in books and whatnot not sell the songs themselves

Besides GTA is wayyy cooler than Cadillac ?:) cuz in GTA you can kill things and stuff ?:hihi:

if you kill things with a Cadillac your grampa will get in trouble :rofl:

good point Saul but if GTA doesn't rebel against the system I don't know what does, and that's what Rock n Roll is all about... rebellion

Not an old guy in a car with heated seats and headlight wipers

 ? Oh man, we are really grasping for straws for something to talk about. ?It was a joke, an aside, a person stating the obvious...I don't think Axl gives 2 shits what Led Zeppelin does with their music. ?I'm sure he respects the music they made and that's that.

 ? My personal opinion? ?I think Rock n' Roll in the Caddy commercial is cool. ?30 years ago, that band was considered Satanic or linked to the occult. ?Then 25 years ago it was Kiss. ?The second I heard the commercial I laughed to my wife and said Marilyn Manson's Beautiful People will be in a mainstream commercial in another 15 years. ? :D

-Axl4Prez2004 ? :peace:

Marylin Manson is a very intelligent guy. He far to be stupid.

He just said it was a car commercial because that song was the song for Cadillacs. ?Big deal. ?I am pretty sure he wasn't making fun of Led Zep. ?It's funny that people analyze everything Axl says.

But Axl's not in a rock and roll band, so he's obviously nothing to do with this....

Nesquick, I didn't mean to imply that Marilyn Manson is stupid.  I just think it's cool to note that mainstream society lags behind cutting edge artists...by about 20 to 30 years at times!  Right now, I'd settle for ANY GNR exposure!    8)

-Axl4Prez2004

PS  CowboyBuddha, who's the hot chick on your avatar?  Just curious. 

Everytime I walk into Walgreens they are playing SCOM.  It's been a regular on the ceiling speakers for about a month.  Right up there with elevator music.  Wonder how that happen?

Chinese Democracy Starts Now.



What DVD are you talking about? Led Zep's DVD? Come on man, Axl was like between 7 and 18 when LZ was at their height. He didn't appear on LZ's DVD. We are talking about GN'R's MSG show (12.05.2002), which exists on an unofficial DVD format (audience shot). ;)

This thread has got me wondering why I even bothered comming into this section...

...Making fun? What the fuck? How old are you, eleven? 'Making fun'?

No. He was joking. As in it was a joke. And....Oh, I can't talk anymore.

There are two reasons IMO that Axl did this. #1 to get more time and more for CD.
#2 because now slash and duff have to sue Sanctuary which has deeper pockets and not just axl for the rights to the back catalog of gnr songs.

FYI - all 3 remaining members of Zep had to meet and agree as majority to sell the song to Cadillac.  Later, Robert Plant expressed some regret at the decision they made.

 :hihi:

for fucks sake. it's just a little off the cuff remark.

You people get far too involved in the tiniest little things.

Right on 2na right on!

Like honestly is your lives that pathetic that you guys have to argue if Axl joked dissed Led Zeppelin or not. Who gives a flying fuck!

Leave the guy fucking alone and stop making retarded threads.

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LIKE OMG AXL IZ SO BAD @SS 4 BASHING LED ZEPPELIN THEY R DA GR8STEST  RAWK BAND EVA! HOW COULD HE MAKE AN OFF COLOR REMARK LIKE DAT!


Fuck! sign

I've gotta say, as a huge fan of both GN'R and Led Zeppelin, that I was pretty fuckin shocked when I heard Axl saying that.



Just kidding guys, relax! ;D

Is it possible people are really stretching to create a thread??  :hihi:

yes!

Led Zepplin greatest band ever? U cant be serious

Robert Plant sounds like someone has his nuts in a vice grip

Ill take Axl over that guy anyday and I hate when Aerosmith or any group I love put their fuckin song in a commercial.

How much money do u need?

It just diminishes everything.


WTTJ on San Andreas doesnt count because Axl is involved with the game, its not the same thing.

Wasn't "Paradise City" on The Longest Yard? atleast it was on the trailer.

Hahahaha! Thats rich! "it's not the same thing" ...  :rofl:

Guess thats just opinion because I think it is the same thing.  : ok:  Not only that but I would be more ashamed to have my bands definitive song associated with a "video game" then for a car commercial.

Axl is real

he always has been he always will be

One of the things that makes Axl so great is the fact he is real

one of the few celebrities u will ever find that says what is on his mind without regard to an "image" or alienating or pissing people off.


I respect him for it even if i dont always agree with him.

Most give the scripted politically correct statements, but not Axl.

I love when people say that Zepplin are the greatest band ever, there is no such thing as a greatest band ever because music is subjective.

I would take a warrant CD over a Zepplin Cd

how bout that?

Id rather listen to the backstreet Boys than Beethoven

just the truth.

 ???

Cool for you man , enjoy those backstreet boys.  : ok:

Zeppelin is far from selling out. Don't talk about sellout on a gn'r board. WTTJ has been used numerous times this year. Zeppelin barely let Cameron Crowe use their songs in movies for fucks sake. And he is personal friends with jimmy and robert. Get your fucking facts straight. They did it once. And it was a huge deal. Cadillac has yet to change the promomtion.

Well, you obviously don't know. Led Zeppelin are the only band EVER to take 90% of all profits. They had and still have the best record deal EVER.

What about Paradise City in the trailer for "The Longest Yard". What the fuck does Paradise city have to do with inmates playing football?

You aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?

Also, Zeppelin is the second best selling ever. Under the fucking beatles. Over the stones.

And yes, you can say greatest band ever. Just look at all the examples on that "da beatles will ruin guns forever" thread.

U gonna insult my intelligence by stating opinions as facts, way to go pal!


even by your logic they'd still be second to the Beatles, so there ya go. but anyway

U cant say something is better than something else because? u cant argue musical taste.

So saying they are YOUR greatest band ever is fine.

But Im tired of Critics trying to force feed stuff down my throat as fact when it isnt fact. Just cause we've been told Hendrix is the greatest guitarist ever doesnt mean he is, I mean the beatles, Hendrix, Led Zepplin, to critics nothing can ever be greater and I think that is bullshit.

Perception is reality

If u get told something long enough that becomes reality


There is no such thing as a greatest band of all time.

The Beatles? Id much rather listen to GNR,Bon Jovi,Prince even Motley Crue

Led Zepplin? I just dont feel it

So stop taking subjective material and trying to make it something else, U just cant do that with music.

The day Axl writes a song half as good as anything on Led Zep II, Four Symbols or Physical Graffiti, then he can think about extracting the urine out of the mighty Zep. :beer:

Simply not true. Beethoven's fifth is objectively a better peice of music than twinkle twinkle little star. It is possible to argue musical taste.

Maybe robert drives a caddie

U can say a piece of music is "more complex" than another piece but I guarantee u somewhere in the world someone likes Twinkle twinkle better.

I dont but I guarantee u'd be surprised.

because something is more complex doesnt make it better

Radiohead are a hundred times more complex musically than Bon Jovi but to me Bon Jovi are a 100 times better band than Radiohead even though I can acknowledge the fact Radiohead are more complex.

Basically if you ask 100 random people who the greatest band ever is they are not all going to say Led Zeppelin.

totally agree, and back you up 100%

Led Zepplin are Legends, and axl had no right to make fun of them or even make a comment like that.
What a fucking idiot, as much as i love axl he pisses me off sometimes. :ok:

70% of them will

D You totally rock !!!! :hihi:

Axl was js making a humorous remark, so what. Led Zeppelin have always been very controlling over the use of their music, and why wouldnt they be? But the idea of them using it to sell cadillacs is amusing.  :peace:

well, a couple years ago there was a resurgence of classic rock albums being bought by younger kids who were into the white stripes and all these bands being played on MTV. When someone you idolize mentions how much he loves Zeppelin, you are probably going to buy an album. I think jimmy, jpj and robert noticed this and wanted to bring some music to a wider audience. But do you people really want to complain? Why don't you bitch some more, and maybe all these fucking kids who dont know a thing about Guns, Zeppelin or any other great act, go out and buy some more beyonce albums. If Zeppelin wants to put a kick ass rock n roll song, titled "Rock n' Roll", then by all means go ahead. It's better then hearing Britney Spears on a fucking Pepsi commercial.