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Yeah...I know...but this is the slowest the GN'R News Camp has been in years.

So, without further ado...


From www.dizzyreed.com

I am coming back to Rumrunners again in beautful Sandestin,FL. for the 4th of July weekend.
Coming Labor Day Weekend: Same place, same concept BIG surprise special guest!!

From http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050816/ap_en_mu/mtv_video_awards

"2005 MTV Video Music Awards," to be presented Aug. 28 at the AmericanAirlines Arena in Miami.
"This year's VMAs will have more music and more performances than ever before."


Think there's a reason why Dizzy's in Florida the weekend following the VMA's (which are also in Florida)? Think Dizzy's 'surprise' could be something bigger than we expect?

Probably not...but it caught my eye and I thought I'd share. Either way...I'm there for some HN'B at Foxwoods again on the 9th!!!

I hope someone can get a shred of news off him at one of these shows.  The lack of news is getting frustrating.  See if you can get any info off him.

July 4th
August ?28th

That is an 8 week difference : ok:

OK, I didnt read all of the first part. Anyway Sandestin to Miami is a far distance even though it is in the same state. Dont hold your breath

Don't be rediculous :hihi:

Coming Labor Day Weekend: Same place, same concept BIG surprise special guest!! Which is the first weekend in September.....

don think so that the suprise will be a VMA appearance...  but we just have to wait and see.. evrything can happens

Deja Vu?? Earlier this year we heard the same shit about Dizzy having a "Surprise special guest" at one of his shows. It was bullshit last time, and its bullshit now. When are people going to realize that Dizzy does this kind of shit to promote his own career?

I dont understand,,   What was the question before dizzy replied with that statement.  Otherwise I dont see how anyone can tell what the hell he is talkin about.

Am I the only person who thinks it would be a dumb idea to do the VMA thing again?  What are they gonna do the same surprise thing and play the same songs?  That's so lame.  Its like Axl's saying..."remember 2002?  Well don't...forget that happened.  That was practice, this one is real."

i think its a good idea if he announces a actual release date, otherwise forget it.

If Axl ever does the VMA's again without CD, he wil literally be laughed off the stage. And an Axl temper tantrum wont cause a riot either, because people will be so busy laughing they wont give a fuck.

Laughed off stage? Are you for real?
.

I was thinkin' the other day about if GN'R DID perform at the VMA's this year. ?Like, out of nowhere, after an award acceptance or something, on the screen you see old clips of GN'R, and at the end they show the '02 performance with Axl saying "Round One" and you hear it over and over, getting lower and lower, then suddenly a deep voice says "Round Two", and Axl and Co. play new songs never heard before, ending with the release date of Chinese Democracy on the screen. ?

I can dream, can't I? =)

Nice dream.  I would just like a commercial like the VMA's in 99 for "Oh My God".  Maybe a commercial abnnouncing a release date.  But after the rumors last year of a commercial went bust I'm not gonna watch the VMA like I did that year.  To many horrible bands and way to many Hip-Hop and R&B acts.  And who knows whats going on in GNR these days.  Hell, even us die-hards are out of the loop. :-\

James u say the dumbest and most negative shit sometimes, I wish this board had a squelch button sometimes.

I'd love for it to be Josh Todd. Buckcherry is the greatest band since GN'R in my opinion. I can't wait to hear the stuff that JT and Dizzy have been working on...

The new Buckcherry album drops in Japan on Oct 5th and in North America (and I assume worldwide) in the early months of 2006... SO PUMPED.

I don't really even care so much about GN'R right now. It's been so long since anything happened that I'm just focused on what's really tangible now. Buckcherry baby. And Louis XIV.

Boo ya.

Does Dizzy appear on Buckcherry's upcomming album?

Not that I know of. But anything is possible. It's also produced by MISTER Bob Rock. It'll sound huge.

I agree, he had his chance in 2002 at the VMAs to make a huge return and impact and it was disastrous. In short, he made a right tit of himself. So to repeat that, he would need to be in absolute vintage form and I just dont see that happening. I really think Axl is a studio musician these days, his live singing days may well have ended in 02.

I'm just hoping Axl goes to the VMA's and makes an announcement.? That's the most probable situation IMO.

Heres a question, what type of rumors did we have in 2002 for the VMAs and how far in advanced were the rumors before the VMAs.   Cause i dont take dizzys comments in what he said to have anything to do with the vma's.  My opinion is its not gonna happen.

LMFAO! I am so nicking that for future use! never heard that one on a msg board before!

kudos!

Hey wait, thats my idea, Im gonna go put a patent on it.   Shit LOL

Everybody knows it's the frogs who are playing.......

It was still an exciting performance. Definately one will be remembered, even though his voice broke down during WTTJ.

it will be remembered only by those who remember how dreadful it was

Don't know how popular that is overall, but they're using it at Mike Portnoy's forum, among others. You can "mute" a poster by pressing a button, and as a result all of the person's posts are skipped when you're viewing the board.

You need to learn how to shut your little mouth....

You sound like one of those piss-ass whiny little brats, who practice some macho-smart-ass facade online, only to hide the fact there penis has never seen it past the 4 inch mark on a ruler.  :rant:

Anyways, common sense tells me that Guns N' Roses logical time-line is running down. It seems as if all the band members (?) are getting focused on there own projects/solo careers, and despite the fact that Gn'R sales in merchandise and albums are probably up, the world isn't going to wait forever. And Sanctuary is, financially, pretty effed up, obviously they're in dire times, if they can't push Axl to a release before Christmas (biggest opportunity for sales), I'd be extremely hard pressed to imagine seeing CD anytime soon.

So, I think, if anythings gonna happen, its gotta be soon.

"You sound like one of those piss-ass whiny little brats, who practice some macho-smart-ass facade online, only to hide the fact there penis has never seen it past the 4 inch mark on a ruler. "
Perhaps you've recognised a trait in yourself there, it is common for one to seek and point out perceived depravity in others that one recognises in oneself ? Aint that right random little man?

I'm merely stating my opinion that the VMA performance was not exciting, nor exhilirating but in fact it was dreadful. Alot of fans will acknowledge that. If you are prepared to settle for that level then thats fine, but Id prefer a peformance in line with what Axl has proven himself capable of in the past and that was not up to scratch.

Now apologise immediatley for being such a jumped up little prick? :hihi:

Why don't you both stop these childish games....

I think you are exaggerating by alot. It wasnt a great vocal performance for the most part, but the energy level for that closing performance was very high. The crowd was into it before and after. The band did very well too.

granted, the band sounds kick ass as always
however, Axl was the main focus, and IMO, he blew it plain and simple

Yeah, Axl sounded pretty bad.  We've all heard the xcuse of his earpiece failing or whatever, but the bottom line remains...most people I talked to said Axl sounded bad.  And I also think he sounded bad.  That being said it was still a pretty good performance.  Like people have already said, the nergy in the place was through the roof.  And the band played well.

blasphemer, instead of offering some insight into why you dont think the scenario I described could occur, you just offer lame insults. Maybe you should squelch yourself. I will ignore you from now on. Its people like you that are causing disinterest in the forums.

Swing, aaaaand a miss. Good try though.

Considering Slash was not allowed to watch the Vegas show(s), I'd say that Axl will not be at the VMA's this year, purely based on the expectation that VR may just get a handfull of awards.

Can you imagine the backstage mess this would cause? Cobain / Rose fiasco revisited.

That's one way of getting back into the limelight, I suppose.

Oh, it would be very interesting if Axl & VR were in the same building.

Not gonna happen. This whole thread is a joke. Dizzy`s big special guest was at a concert on July 4th, WHICH ALREADY HAPPENED. And we still don`t know who that guest was. Must`ve been a big rock icon!

You know I never even though of that.  That could be bad, but then again maybe not.  Maybe they'd get to talking to each other...and then who knows what can happen.

Holy Geez guys , how long can we handle poor fragile axl with kid gloves?!  ???

The thing is , if Axl really wants to "come back" and release an album that's gunna be big he's gunna have to be prepared for some award shows where he may HAVE to be in the same room or building with "former friends" such as slash and duff. I mean VR aint going nowhere , they'll be around and with a new album maybe they will be up for more awards all over the place next year. So if axl releases something and it's big and he gets nominated in the same catagory as VR what should he do? Stay home and sulk cause of slash and duff being at the awards?

C'mon! Arent these guys grown men?

Axl never even knew slash was there and it was not Axl that said slash could not get in it was gnr's manager.  I really don?t think Axl gives a rat?s ass if VR are in the same building or not. You would think he would want to upstage them by having the better song or better ovation.

I dont believe VR are nominated for any VMAs.  Im not sure theyre even attending, unfortunately.

MTV got their nostalgia act in 2002, why would they want to book GN'R again?  There is no sign of a new album, no new tour and they aren't getting any awards.

For the person who said that something had to happen soon.  No it doesn't.  We've been telling ourselves that for the past three years and still no release date.

The bottom line is that they won't be at the VMA's.

I don't even care if they do the vmas again, the first time around was what made it special... I rather one day hear gnr is going to be there and look up and see the afd crew up there.. New gnr is so long ago that they are so distant from my mind..

MTv would not have them back anyway.

And there's no Buckethead, so unless they have a replacement guitarist, its gonna be a while before we see Axl & co on a stage...

I think they would but they need to have some agreement that all is done and there is something to announce.. If it ever happens with this album mtv will play a big part in it's promotion.. Possibly a day of gnr videos and a intro to the new one...

Robin and Richard played the immense majority of the guitar parts. they are enough. Buckethead was just an additional musician more than anything else. A folklore. "just an add".?I have some video bootlegs where sometimes he didn't even play (the blues) or just played a 30 sec fast guitar solo and then returned sleeping on the right side of the stage with his toys for the rest of the song. the band can (and should) roll on with the duet finck/fortus. It's fine like that. Back to the fundamentals.

The actual line-up (1 singer - 2 guitar players - 2 keyboards - 1 drummer - 1 bass player) seems fine to me and perfect to rule the world  8)

nesquick, if Buckethead is irrelevant like you say, why did GNR not play Rio?

I don't know, i don't want to say bullshit. Maybe the band wasn't ready at that time.

ready for what then? obviously they didnt need buckethead cause as you said .. he didnt do anything cept stand by his "toys" and play 20 sec's of fast guitar.

it's strange though that the actual leader of the band and not some little fanboy made a statement saying that because buckethead quit they couldnt play rir4.  : ok:

But then again , whats axl's word against yours afterall.  :hihi:

BECAUSE THEY DONT PLAY ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the band do play, it'll be good to know if Buckethead has joined up with them again or to see if the new guitarist is as good a replacement  :)

I think if Axl was to ever do the VMA's again, he should already have CD released.  It would be embarassing for him, I would enjoy the performance no doubt and seeing him again would be awesome but what's the point without the album.

I said this before and Ill say it again. Guns n roses doesnt need BH to play the AFD songs but they need him to play the new songs that will appear on CD.  CD was writtien with THREE guitar players thus they would need three to play them  live. AFD was written with TWO thus they only need two. Understand?

You have no clue what was written with 3 guitar players.  All you or anyone else knows is that there were a handful of songs written that have surfaced: blues, madagascar, rhiad, CD, etc.  Who knows what will be on CD if it ever sees the light of day. With Axl's nuttiness he may fire all the guitarists and make the album with no instruments at all.  Maybe he'll think he's Prince and play every instrument himself...  BH was and is a freak show and was essentially never there anyway.  As far as 90% of the music world knows, BH never existed in GnR.