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Title: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on August 05, 2005, 04:49:13 PM why does everybody seems to hate steven? he was the drummer in appetite, a multi million selling record of guns n roses...he wrote songs and he was fired because he gave heroin to axl?s girlfriend. man, they were all doing hard drugs at that time. he wasnt playing good at that time? maybe but maybe that was the "official" reason and the truth is that axl fire him because of the heroin thing. if you see metallica?s "some kind of monster" dvd there is a part when dave mustaine is talkin with the psycho guy and lars ulrich and he tells lars how it was a bad thing fired him and lars cry...i really think that dvd have a lot of bullshit in it but dave had a point there and i remember steven because he was threaten (spell?) like dave...dave was fired because of alchol abuse and that was shit! look james went in rehab a couple of years ago! so alchol abuse of dave?fuck that! the same with steven...
"look steven you are using to much heroin and you are out of the band" "but we are all using heroin" "yeah but you are out anyway" steven can play...he is a great drumme...i saw him a couple of years ago here in argentina with gilby clarke and during sweet child the pedal of the bass drum broke and a roadie replace it and durinf that thing he didnt miss a single tick of time he is a fuckin clock and he can play exelent... stop bashin steven show some respect to the guy Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Izzy on August 05, 2005, 04:59:49 PM People bash him because he's pathetic
He still takes drugs, never gets any new material out there and generally fails to convince anyone he's got any brain left at all I love the guy for his GNR stuff and always wish him the best - but u can't hide from the truth forever Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on August 05, 2005, 05:37:22 PM People bash him because he's pathetic He still takes drugs, never gets any new material out there and generally fails to convince anyone he's got any brain left at all I love the guy for his GNR stuff and always wish him the best - but u can't hide from the truth forever Gotta agree with Izzy. I love the guy, but its very sad to see the shape he's in. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: usurper on August 05, 2005, 08:42:30 PM Why do people hate him? Why do you ask? I'll tell you why
1. Because he is a whiny little bitch 2. He still does drugs 3. He mutters, stumbles and blunders his way out of conversations 4. He is Jewish (some people might find that annoying, if you're anti-semitic, whatever...) 5. He bashes Axl (thats our job!) 6. He's a moron 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs 8. He sued GNR 9. He's a wash-up 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs 11. He plays covers of GNR even though he was fired over 15 years ago 12. He was fired 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball (a mixture of cocaine and heroin) 14. She nearly died 15. He's an asshole 16. He's trapped in the 80's 17. He has crap looking hair 18. He's got a fucked up nose 19. He's depressing when you hear him talk 20. His drumming is nothing special Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on August 06, 2005, 01:20:56 AM I'm with you on everything except numbers 16 and 20. In regards to 16, nothing wrong with being stuck in the 80's. I'm stuck there, and I wasn't even 5 years old when they ended. And with #20, I definitely disagree. His drumming was special, and definitely contributed to GN'R's sound.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: coolman78SLASH on August 06, 2005, 06:32:10 AM Why do people hate him? Why do you ask? I'll tell you why 1. Because he is a whiny little bitch 2. He still does drugs 3. He mutters, stumbles and blunders his way out of conversations 4. He is Jewish (some people might find that annoying, if you're anti-semitic, whatever...) 5. He bashes Axl (thats our job!) 6. He's a moron 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs 8. He sued GNR 9. He's a wash-up 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs 11. He plays covers of GNR even though he was fired over 15 years ago 12. He was fired 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball (a mixture of cocaine and heroin) 14. She nearly died 15. He's an asshole 16. He's trapped in the 80's 17. He has crap looking hair 18. He's got a fucked up nose 19. He's depressing when you hear him talk 20. His drumming is nothing special Ursurper: Wow, and this was your describtion of the original drummer for your favourite band, would love to see you describe a member of your least favourite band? PS: It sucks to say so much crap about a person who havent done anything directed to you personally by the way... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: usurper on August 06, 2005, 06:33:25 AM Ok then, tell me 20 things you love about Steven Adler
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: IzzyDutch on August 06, 2005, 08:09:06 AM 1. Because he speaks his mind
2. He still does softdrugs just like Matt Sorum 3. He's speaking straight from the heart 4. He is a human beeing 5. He bashes Axl which he has a right too. (who doesn't?) 6. He's a good guy 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs while the other ex-GN'R member spended it on booze 8. He sued GNR just like Slash, Duff, Izzy, Gilby and Matt 9. He's picked himself up from the gutter again and started a band 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs cause drug addicts do weird things. 11. He plays own songs of GNR which he helped writing just like Axl did 12. He was fired just like a few other members because Axl's a wuss 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball is just a rumour, you don't know what happened 14. She nearly died cause she accepted the drugs that where given to here 15. He's a funny guy 16. He's trapped in the 80's which shows in everything he does. He's released and played more new material then Axl. 17. He has crap looking hair, got a picture of yourself usurper? 18. He's got a fucked up nose,got a picture of yourself usurper? 19. He's struggling when you hear him talk cause of several strokes he had, like millions of people in the world 20. His drumming is original with a great groove which gives the songs their push and feel Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: usurper on August 06, 2005, 01:26:12 PM 1. Because he speaks his mind 2. He still does softdrugs just like Matt Sorum 3. He's speaking straight from the heart 4. He is a human beeing 5. He bashes Axl which he has a right too. (who doesn't?) 6. He's a good guy 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs while the other ex-GN'R member spended it on booze 8. He sued GNR just like Slash, Duff, Izzy, Gilby and Matt 9. He's picked himself up from the gutter again and started a band 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs cause drug addicts do weird things. 11. He plays own songs of GNR which he helped writing just like Axl did 12. He was fired just like a few other members because Axl's a wuss 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball is just a rumour, you don't know what happened 14. She nearly died cause she accepted the drugs that where given to here 15. He's a funny guy 16. He's trapped in the 80's which shows in everything he does. He's released and played more new material then Axl. 17. He has crap looking hair, got a picture of yourself usurper? 18. He's got a fucked up nose,got a picture of yourself usurper? 19. He's struggling when you hear him talk cause of several strokes he had, like millions of people in the world 20. His drumming is original with a great groove which gives the songs their push and feel My reply: 1. Thats his problem, he does not know when to stop speaking his mind... 2. Yeah, but has Matt Sorum ever collapsed on stage, passed out in recordings or prostitured himself for drugs? No... 3. Again, thats his problem... 4. So are 6 and a half billion other people, what your point? 5. He bashes Axl because he firmly believes that he was fired by Axl and not the band (it was the bands decision, Axl just went with the flow) 6. Not really. 7. Yeah but did any of the other members ever go broke? Lose their wives because of their addictions and all their memories? 8. Yeah but they had a good reason, Steven sued them because he said they turned him onto drugs even though he was using heavy drugs before he joined the band 9. No he hasn't. His band ins't well known, most of the players dont think they belong there and they just play covers 10. Yeah, but few would suck a big throbbing one 11. But did he write any lyrics? No. 12. No he was fired because he was so hooked on drugs he could not play the drums anymore 13. Do you know Steven personally? And why was Evin Everly sent to hospital for a drug overdose? Why did all the members say that Steven gave her a speedball? 14. Are you sure about that? She could've been asleep, or drunk or something 15. Yeah, people laugh AT him, not with him 16. Yeah, all covers. 17. No I don't, but I dont have blond hair which is all tangly 18. No, but mine hasn't been broken before by drug dealers because I couldn't pay my drug debts (another Steven example) 19. All of strokes were self-induced, the one he has in 1991 (I think) was because of a speedball 20. But it is pretty simple to play, Matt Sorum learned all the songs in 2 weeks Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on August 06, 2005, 02:43:12 PM After taking a second look at your little list there, there are several other points I disagree with. You really make a lot of assumptions that you can't back up. Also a lot of the stuff you list is stuff that other band members did as well. Why do you really dislike Steve Adler? Did he run over your dog or something?
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: James_Ramone on August 06, 2005, 07:17:51 PM come on give adler a break, im not his biggest fan in the world and hes done and said some dumb stuff, but at least hes out doing something, his new EP is decent enough, and hes touring. Axls the one clinging to the guns n roses name if anybody is
and whats Axl up to these days? ????? Fuck all, thats what Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: duffsgal on August 06, 2005, 08:41:31 PM Wow I never knew that people could be so cruel and evil to a person they dont know.? I really hope that none of the guys ever read these posts, imagine how heartbreaking it would be to read, that supposed fans of a band you helped create, feel such hatred for you.? ?:'(
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: makane on August 07, 2005, 03:27:24 AM Haha, usuper is such a moron. he thinks he knows every little thing that happened in the band, when he actually doesnt know shit. maybe when you grow up a bit, you realise what kinda shit youre talking about a guy who you haven't even met.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: usurper on August 07, 2005, 05:09:03 AM Haha, usuper is such a moron. he thinks he knows every little thing that happened in the band, when he actually doesnt know shit. maybe when you grow up a bit, you realise what kinda shit youre talking about a guy who you haven't even met. Tell me Mr. Makane, how do you know I have never met him? Can you read my thoughts? Wow I never knew that people could be so cruel and evil to a person they dont know. I really hope that none of the guys ever read these posts, imagine how heartbreaking it would be to read, that supposed fans of a band you helped create, feel such hatred for you. :'( Sorry, just my opinion... come on give adler a break, im not his biggest fan in the world and hes done and said some dumb stuff, but at least hes out doing something, his new EP is decent enough, and hes touring. Axls the one clinging to the guns n roses name if anybody is and whats Axl up to these days? ????? Fuck all, thats what Axl has every right to cling onto the name, he owns it and while I may not agree with what he is doing to it he will never really listen to his fans, now will he? After taking a second look at your little list there, there are several other points I disagree with. You really make a lot of assumptions that you can't back up. Also a lot of the stuff you list is stuff that other band members did as well. Why do you really dislike Steve Adler? Did he run over your dog or something? No he did not run over my dog, please tell me what you disagree with... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: makane on August 07, 2005, 08:34:28 AM 'cause you wouldve mentioned it already. and even if you wouldve met him for 10 seconds, does that mean you know him well enough to do such accusations...
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on August 08, 2005, 12:18:00 AM 1. Because he speaks his mind 2. He still does softdrugs just like Matt Sorum 3. He's speaking straight from the heart 4. He is a human beeing 5. He bashes Axl which he has a right too. (who doesn't?) 6. He's a good guy 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs while the other ex-GN'R member spended it on booze 8. He sued GNR just like Slash, Duff, Izzy, Gilby and Matt 9. He's picked himself up from the gutter again and started a band 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs cause drug addicts do weird things. 11. He plays own songs of GNR which he helped writing just like Axl did 12. He was fired just like a few other members because Axl's a wuss 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball is just a rumour, you don't know what happened 14. She nearly died cause she accepted the drugs that where given to here 15. He's a funny guy 16. He's trapped in the 80's which shows in everything he does. He's released and played more new material then Axl. 17. He has crap looking hair, got a picture of yourself usurper? 18. He's got a fucked up nose,got a picture of yourself usurper? 19. He's struggling when you hear him talk cause of several strokes he had, like millions of people in the world 20. His drumming is original with a great groove which gives the songs their push and feel i totally agree with you the 98% of the people who met steven think he?s a great guy...he?s an amazing person. also slash prostitute too remember the article, they do it for the money because they didnt have a job and izzy once said that when steven left all the groove was gone and he not wanted steven to leave. izzy recorded with him a couple of songs listen to them, listen to dawn of the farm from farm aid...he couldnt play? fuck that! he surely can play and by the way...what do you have against drug addicts? matt still do drugs slash still do drugs izzy still do drugs gilby do drugs duff cant because he have enough drugs in his body to kill keith richards and axl...mmm...well.... and what do you have against drug addicts anyway? you are a fuckin robot dont you? you did everything mum and daddy wanted dont you? if steven gave erin a speedball was because she asked him too, you dont give a speedball to your singer?s girlfriend if she dont want to. he plays covers?mmmm...didnt axl do a tour makin covers of guns n roses songs? fuck if he call guns n roses his band....it?s the axl rose project, i see more guns n roses in velvet revolver..sory but the band its the music and beside 4 or 5 songs that axl gave to us that aren?t as good as they have to (because chinese democracy will be the best rock album ever in axls words). so, usurper, i think you are an idiot. stop bashing steven, he is an incredible guy. thank you Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Booker Floyd on August 08, 2005, 05:07:14 AM also slash prostitute too remember the article, they do it for the money because they didnt have a job I dont recall this. Perhaps you can quote the article in which this was stated? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mikkamakka on August 08, 2005, 03:19:00 PM also slash prostitute too remember the article, they do it for the money because they didnt have a job I dont recall this.? Perhaps you can quote the article in which this was stated? As far as I remember it's in Steven's book. I agree that Steven lost 99% of his brain, and some people can make lists why they don't like/hate Steven, but hey, he plays on AFD and was a member of GN'R when it was a band. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on August 08, 2005, 05:03:50 PM Your whole list is basically BS, Usurper. I could make a list like that for any member of GN'R if I wanted to. Everybody has flaws. Steven has many, but so do the rest of the guys that were in GN'R to quote Mikka, "when it was a band". Axl's never said stupid shit in his life? Or Slash or Duff? They've all said stupid shit. They've all done stupid shit in regards to drugs and other substances. Duff has come closer to death than any other member besides Slash of course...who actually did die. Your whole list is hypocritical.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on August 10, 2005, 01:57:33 AM Why do people hate him? Why do you ask? I'll tell you why 1. Because he is a whiny little bitch 2. He still does drugs 3. He mutters, stumbles and blunders his way out of conversations 4. He is Jewish (some people might find that annoying, if you're anti-semitic, whatever...) 5. He bashes Axl (thats our job!) 6. He's a moron 7. He spent 50 million dollars on drugs 8. He sued GNR 9. He's a wash-up 10. He used to prostitute himself for drugs 11. He plays covers of GNR even though he was fired over 15 years ago 12. He was fired 13. Steven was dumb enough to give Evin Everly a speedball (a mixture of cocaine and heroin) 14. She nearly died 15. He's an asshole 16. He's trapped in the 80's 17. He has crap looking hair 18. He's got a fucked up nose 19. He's depressing when you hear him talk 20. His drumming is nothing special hahaha man, that is the funniest thing I have ever read in this board, Honestly I dont think you are being serious. Those are obviously your personal reasons why you hate him, but even like that you repit insults more thatn 4 times, leave the man alone!!! anyway you are funny man... : ok: @;---,----.------,------------- TPR Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on August 10, 2005, 02:07:57 AM And on a serious note guys, STEVEN ADLER is a human being, who deserves respect like everyone else, he is an excellent guy, even when I have never met him in my life, but I read an interview of him about the early gnr years, and the interviewer asks him to say something as a farewell and he might have said shit, like Axl and Izzy did -- jiberish -- but instead of it, he says:
" I have something nice to say. Do anything you want as long as you think good, and do it for yourself. You can do anything!" Steven Adler Now if you have the time or the will to read it completely, here it is: http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm I hope you enjoy it, and understand this Guys, Steven Adler, is something special... http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: ClintroN on August 10, 2005, 06:21:46 AM Steven Adler rocks man, i just wish he'd move on n' do somethin' different thats all...
i think he's a great drummer.... just one question..........how do you guys know he still does drugs???????? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on August 10, 2005, 02:27:47 PM Steven Adler rocks man, i just wish he'd move on n' do somethin' different thats all... i think he's a great drummer.... just one question..........how do you guys know he still does drugs???????? I believe he admitted he still smokes weed in a recent interview. And according to those who toured with him on the Bad Boys Of Metal Tour last summer, he's still doing some hard stuff. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: IzzyDutch on August 10, 2005, 02:41:22 PM He admitted about smoking pot in an interview, but also said that's it... Nothing else.
But in my opinion even pot is a stupid thing to do Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 01, 2005, 01:16:37 PM I don't know if he is dumb or a brain damage, but he was and still is my fave GNR drummer, I know he didn't do locomotive, or the intro of you could be mine, but as simple as it sounds his drumming was way more better than any other drummer would do on that. :peace:
People that talk shit about Steven just take it as are their opinions, cause I know there's a lot of people out there that thinks that he is a great person no matter what other guy say : ok: Rock on Steve!! Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on September 01, 2005, 01:58:03 PM yeah, I agree it gets tiresome. the dude is an original member and he contributed to their sound like any other original. that's a fact. Axl people hate him simply because he was the first to go, that why they hate him more than they hate Slash and Duff.
I don't know if he is dumb or a brain damage, but he was and still is my fave GNR drummer, I know he didn0t locomotive, or the intro of you could be mine, but as simple as it sounds his drumming it was way more better than any othe drummer would do on that. actually Steven recorded "Locomotive" as a demo. its out there on bootlegs. He also recorded numerous other UYI songs that are on some demos floating around. they sound good. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: IzzyDutch on September 01, 2005, 02:50:09 PM The drum intro of You Could Be Mine was written by Duff, Matt said in a '93 MTV GN'R in Athens video special. And Matt just played on UYI, he didn't wrote the drumtracks of the songs
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 02, 2005, 09:54:52 AM yeah, I agree it gets tiresome. the dude is an original member and he contributed to their sound like any other original. that's a fact. Axl people hate him simply because he was the first to go, that why they hate him more than they hate Slash and Duff. I don't know if he is dumb or a brain damage, but he was and still is my fave GNR drummer, I know he didn0t locomotive, or the intro of you could be mine, but as simple as it sounds his drumming it was way more better than any othe drummer would do on that. actually Steven recorded "Locomotive" as a demo. its out there on bootlegs. He also recorded numerous other UYI songs that are on some demos floating around. they sound good. Cool that is something I didn't know, but it sounds with the variations of rythims and stuff?? :o The drum intro of You Could Be Mine was written by Duff, Matt said in a '93 MTV GN'R in Athens video special. And Matt just played on UYI, he didn't wrote the drumtracks of the songs :o Sometimes I feel so ignorant as the matters of GNR :( Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on September 02, 2005, 11:15:53 AM Cool that is something I didn't know, but it sounds with the variations of rythims and stuff??? :o Pretty much. All the demos with Steven pretty much sound the same. Sorum may have changed a thing or two but for the most part he did not write, he just followed the outline Steven already wrote. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 03, 2005, 02:49:41 PM Cool that is something I didn't know, but it sounds with the variations of rythims and stuff?? :o Pretty much. All the demos with Steven pretty much sound the same. Sorum may have changed a thing or two but for the most part he did not write, he just followed the outline Steven already wrote. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Queen of Everything on September 04, 2005, 05:28:09 AM And on a serious note guys, STEVEN ADLER is a human being, who deserves respect like everyone else,? he is an excellent guy, even when I have never met him in my life,? but I read an interview of him about? the early gnr years, and the interviewer asks him to say something as a farewell and he might have said shit, like Axl and Izzy? did -- jiberish --? but instead of it, he says: " I have something nice to say. Do anything you want as long as you think good, and do it for yourself. You can do anything!" Steven Adler Now if you have the time or the will to read it completely, here it is: http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm I hope you enjoy it, and understand this Guys, Steven Adler, is something special... ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm Yeah - Although 99% of us dont agree with what he is doing to himself - he is a person and an ex-drummer in our fave band!! So we cant sit there and bash him all the time.... He's made some misteaks (who hasn't) so I rekon we should sorta... move on. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: usurper on September 04, 2005, 01:24:47 PM Steven Adler rocks man, i just wish he'd move on n' do somethin' different thats all... i think he's a great drummer.... just one question..........how do you guys know he still does drugs???????? He's said it in interviews, he still does pot and mushrooms... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on September 04, 2005, 10:57:44 PM Quote He's said it in interviews, he still does pot and mushrooms... Here is what Steven said.....(I found this on either a VR site or a Steven site) QUESTION: Are you sober now? STEVEN: No, and I've never claimed to be.? I still like a drink once in awhile, and a cigarette, and I still smoke a joint every now and then.? But I don't do the hard stuff.? Heroin and cocaine make me useless. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on September 05, 2005, 12:48:08 AM ok...what?s the diference in take drugs or not?
he is steven adler he can do what ever he fells like, he can sleep all day and take drugs nly just because he is rich and he dont have to do nothing...and he is still trying to put a good band to rock again,,,he needs the right people... long live rock and roll steven! Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Buddy J.B. on September 05, 2005, 04:20:09 PM I guess Steven Adler is not that bad of a person no more(if everything we heard was true) , but he seem to be on the same page with Slash and Izzy now. I 'm never going to believe the prostitution part for drugs, I think it's a straight up-myth. So really, I don't mind Steven Adler at all.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Pandora on September 05, 2005, 04:30:38 PM I 'm never going to believe the prostitution part for drugs, I think it's a straight up-myth. The "myth" was told by Steven himself. It was in an interview for Classic Rock I believe. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on September 05, 2005, 11:04:52 PM The "myth" was told by Steven himself. It was in an interview for Classic Rock I believe. Yep, Steven said it himself, but you know what? Who cares? Steven is probably the millionth rock star to have prostituted hinself for drugs and other things. When Steven and Slash first started a band back in 1984-85, they said they went around fucking girls in return for food and a place to stay, so that's prostitution unto itself. Rock stars may not talk about such things much, but they do it. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on September 06, 2005, 02:52:49 AM Steven may have done some fucked up shit, but he's still a good dude at heart. He took time out of his day to respond to an e-mail I sent him a few years back. Also I've met him a couple times and he was real cool to me and my friends. He's a class act...he's just made some serious mistakes along the way.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Walapino on September 06, 2005, 11:42:38 PM Steven rocks :beer:
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 07, 2005, 10:56:37 AM I 'm never going to believe the prostitution part for drugs, I think it's a straight up-myth. The "myth" was told by Steven himself. It was in an interview for Classic Rock I believe. That's the part I think nobody should believe cause he's been so fucked up that I think he doesnt even know what the hell was true or not. Ok, let me be naive ::) Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Pandora on September 07, 2005, 11:52:49 AM That's the part I think nobody should believe cause he's been so fucked up that I think he doesnt even know what the hell was true or not. Ok, let me be naive ::) I think you're exagerating a little bit. Fucked up or not, anyone would remember if they prostituted themselves or not. It's not exactly some kind of insignificant event you tend to forget easily..... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 08, 2005, 04:21:59 PM That's the part I think nobody should believe cause he's been so fucked up that I think he doesnt even know what the hell was true or not. Ok, let me be naive ::) I think you're exagerating a little bit. Fucked up or not, anyone would remember if they prostituted themselves or not. It's not exactly some kind of insignificant event you tend to forget easily..... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on September 08, 2005, 04:33:33 PM leave the guy alone.,.,
a long time ago in a reality far far away robert plant said "you cant quit a dream because you are hungry" Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on September 09, 2005, 07:18:35 AM I really feel for steve, everyone in gnr had their own personal demons.. Getting kicked for drug use from gnr is like being mad at a chinese guy for being short.
So steve is bitter and says some fucked up things.. Maybe he has never found closure over the issue and feels he was screwed.. Only he knows what the others were doing while he was getting used as a scape goat.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on September 09, 2005, 05:55:54 PM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm
Read that guys, Specially steven's last words.... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Buddy J.B. on September 10, 2005, 12:09:14 AM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm :rofl:Read that guys, Specially steven's last words.... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 10, 2005, 05:03:12 PM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Read that guys, Specially steven's last words.... Thats very hilarious Carlos thanks : ok: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Queen of Everything on September 11, 2005, 07:20:48 PM HAH!! I Love it!!! - Its legendary - They sound like they are hacing such a fun time.... Wonder where Slash is but?? ???
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on September 11, 2005, 11:33:57 PM ;D Haha, I've read that before actually.
It's funny, Steven has the reputation of being the doped up one. Anybody who thinks that should read that interview, Steven's the only level-headed one of the bunch! ;D Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on September 12, 2005, 03:39:20 AM came on dont you love the fact that they were really fucked up?slash wasnt even there because he was buying some drugs for that night.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on September 12, 2005, 11:39:39 AM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Read that guys,? Specially steven's last words.... Thats very hilarious Carlos thanks? : ok: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on September 12, 2005, 11:40:34 AM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Read that guys,? Specially steven's last words.... Thats very hilarious Carlos thanks? : ok: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: makane on September 12, 2005, 01:25:01 PM I don't care, he rocks so hard with Duff on AFD.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 12, 2005, 01:55:16 PM http://www.duffmckagan.net/ripmay87.htm :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Read that guys, Specially steven's last words.... Thats very hilarious Carlos thanks : ok: I think he's a good guy with a lot of dope in his head, sometimes when you are under influence of any sustance it makes you trouble you thoughts and your way of putting the sentences together, imagine doing that for years :o Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on September 13, 2005, 01:39:02 PM Well guys, the part that I wanted you to read is where Steven says, "I have something nice to say" and he says a really excellent speech of support,...
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on September 14, 2005, 10:02:48 AM Well guys, the part that I wanted you to read is where Steven says, "I have something nice to say" and he says a really excellent speech of support,... Well that wasn't the last thing he said in the interview, well anyway I think as I said before he's a good, in that sentence he says very good supports about doing anything which I think that way too. I hope one day he can recall that thing and stop consuming drugs :yes: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on September 15, 2005, 11:21:21 AM Cool, I think Steven is an excellent person, besides all the bad things, and you are right that wasnt the last thing he said.... : ok: Steven is a great person, after my eyes
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Holy War on September 26, 2005, 04:33:42 AM Adler was (is?) a great drummer, perfect for GN'R.
But he is also a bonafide retard. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Izzy on September 26, 2005, 08:33:12 AM I 'm never going to believe the prostitution part for drugs, I think it's a straight up-myth. The "myth" was told by Steven himself. It was in an interview for Classic Rock I believe. It was taken out of context :rofl: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: MichelleAK3 on October 16, 2005, 11:20:48 AM he used to be gorgeous , Im not against him, but he has the same problemas axl rose, hes bitter and dwells on the slights the former band members did to him...
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 17, 2005, 01:29:15 PM he used to be gorgeous , Im not against him, but he has the same problemas axl rose, hes bitter and dwells on the slights the former band members did to him... Well I dont want to look gay, but he is still a gorgeous guy, I saw a recent picture of him with izzy and slash, and they looked great.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Bridge on October 17, 2005, 08:42:06 PM he used to be gorgeous , Im not against him, but he has the same problemas axl rose, hes bitter and dwells on the slights the former band members did to him... no way you can't even begin to compare Steven to Axl. Steven may throw a few barbs out sometimes but he still currently has a relationship with Slash, Duff, and Izzy. Axl won't even speak to any of them. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on October 18, 2005, 10:42:04 AM he used to be gorgeous , Im not against him, but he has the same problemas axl rose, hes bitter and dwells on the slights the former band members did to him... He did that to himself!, if someone tells you to quit something you like to do, like playing drums in a band or keep destroying yourself and don't listen is nobady's fault but the sinner.Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 19, 2005, 05:08:50 PM you can say wherever you want, but in the end... steven is a bitter crackwhore without brain that is stuck in past.... BTW he is also the worst drummer that gnr ever had
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on October 19, 2005, 07:57:34 PM the worst drummer?
i think you serously need to listen to appetite again and live like a suicide...he was better than that sucker that guns n roses have now...i bet steven wont fuck up a song like you could be mine like brain did in rock in rio... how can it be posible that people still think he is a bad drummer? are you people deaf? don?t you listen? it?s about the music. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 19, 2005, 09:26:41 PM he is shit (btw he is a zombie hehehe) compared to brain..
sorum kicked crackwhore adler's ass.... and sorum is a shit compared to brain.. im sure you havent heard anything that brain have realased and BTW if you think that just cuz the crackwhore was in the AFD lineup make him good.. you are so fuckin wrong... he is a regular drummer nothing special.. sorum is very skilled drummer... but brain is one of the best drummer now.. dont say anything if you dont know about we are talkin just cuz you like him doesnt mean he is good Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on October 20, 2005, 12:44:20 AM Why so much hate for Steven? How could you say such terrible stuff about a dude you've never even met? By the way you don't know jack shit, cause Steve is an excellent drummer. I'd say the best GN'R ever had. Also if you're gonna bash GN'R members for being drug addicts, you have to bash all of them. At least Steven never actually died (like Slash did).
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: WAR41 on October 20, 2005, 02:26:58 AM At least Steven never actually died (like Slash did). HAHAHAHAHAHHA.... dude you get the gold star for the day. That was classic. And I love both Slash and Adler. Adler is by far my favoriate GNR drummer. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 12:30:44 PM Quote Why so much hate for Steven?? Is not hate... but he is disgusting cuz:1. He is a prick 2. He talks shit 3.He contradicts himself evertime he talks Quote How could you say such terrible stuff about a dude you've never even met? by the things he says in every interviewQuote By the way you don't know jack shit, cause Steve is an excellent drummer.? I'd say the best GN'R ever had. YOU are a fuckin joke... you dont know anything about drummin skills.. rite?do you know something about drumming BTW????.... he is a regular drummer, just cuz you like him... that doesnt make him good, he is very mediocre technically Is he better than Josh Freese? or better than Brain?....or even better than Matt??? THAT IS JUST A JOKE!!!! Quote Also if you're gonna bash GN'R members for being drug addicts, you have to bash all of them. im not bashin him for being drug addict... i am sating the truth.. i never said anything about his addictions... i cant bash al members of gnr for bein junkies... axl was never a drug addict? :hihi:Quote At least Steven never actually died (like Slash did). that's the funniest thing ever... maybe the steven didnt die... but he is zombie!, he cant even fuckin talkTitle: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on October 20, 2005, 12:34:09 PM Respect is essential. That is what most people show here, don't give jackshit about Stevie's faults and wish him well (including me). The same amount of respect, i guess, people badmouthing Steve want in their lives. So don't waste your time here talking crap about someone you don't even know and learn about respecting each other in the first place.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 12:47:33 PM im saying the truth
the real truth! :beer: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on October 20, 2005, 01:20:57 PM Yeah truth about the non sense, sure :beer:
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 01:35:29 PM Yeah truth about the non sense, sure? :beer: tell what in my post have no senseand i will fuckin prove it to you Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on October 20, 2005, 01:45:52 PM You ask me to do an assignment about that? :D I could do that. Just live your own life man and do well to others, that's my advice.? ?
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 02:04:26 PM :'(
i will never say the truth again.. that is bad lmao :smoking: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on October 20, 2005, 02:16:42 PM Truth about what man?
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on October 20, 2005, 02:23:15 PM You bash Steven cause, "he can't even talk," but some of your posts are totally incoherent. Did Steve bang your sister or something? That's the only explanation I can come up with for why you have so much nonsensical hatred for him.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on October 20, 2005, 02:26:20 PM ok man you are an asshole...josh freese is a totally diferent from all guns drummers, but brain...he is nothing special to me his music, like buckethead, dont move any feelings on me, nothing. buckethead is a good player but they dont move anything on me and brain for me can play very well, but if you want to listen a bunch of guys who put the heart in their music listen to appetite again. steven wrote appetite songs and he help write the ilusions songs, i bet that brain will not have any credits besides being the drummer in CD.
and if you are ne of those peoples that think that junkies are shit, fuck you! steven can talk, axl did drugs like the rest they were all junkies, the best junkies you can imagine. matt sorum is way better drummer than brain by the way, brain fucked you could be mine...how can you be so stupid to do that? so pepe666 listen the music in deep and then we talk, it?s not what you play...is how do you play it, and steven knows a lot of that. and if he bang your sister im sure she like it. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 04:22:04 PM ok man you are an asshole...josh freese is a totally diferent from all guns drummers, but brain...he is nothing special to me his music, like buckethead, dont move any feelings on me, nothing. buckethead is a good player but they dont move anything on me and brain for me can play very well, but if you want to listen a bunch of guys who put the heart in their music listen to appetite again. steven wrote appetite songs and he help write the ilusions songs, i bet that brain will not have any credits besides being the drummer in CD. im sure steven fucked you, and that why you dont see truth... and if you are ne of those peoples that think that junkies are shit, fuck you! steven can talk, axl did drugs like the rest they were all junkies, the best junkies you can imagine. matt sorum is way better drummer than brain by the way, brain fucked you could be mine...how can you be so stupid to do that? so pepe666 listen the music in deep and then we talk, it?s not what you play...is how do you play it, and steven knows a lot of that. and if he bang your sister im sure she like it. or maybe he was your crackwhore.. you pay him with drugs rite??? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 04:24:00 PM You bash Steven cause, "he can't even talk,"? but some of your posts are totally incoherent.? Did Steve bang your sister or something?? That's the only explanation I can come up with for why you have so much nonsensical hatred for him. im not bashin him cuz he cant talk... im makin fun him cuz he cant talk :hihi:the only thing i said is that he suck as drummer.. and that he is asshole.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 20, 2005, 07:13:04 PM You bash Steven cause, "he can't even talk,"? but some of your posts are totally incoherent.? Did Steve bang your sister or something?? That's the only explanation I can come up with for why you have so much nonsensical hatred for him. im not bashin him cuz he cant talk... im makin fun him cuz he cant talk :hihi:the only thing i said is that he suck as drummer.. and that he is asshole.. oh Pepe, how can you say that?? hE is a good drummer, remember AFD? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 20, 2005, 07:33:01 PM AFD is a great album
but he didnt write all AFD he JUST plays the drums... and his drummin is nothing special Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 20, 2005, 07:36:50 PM AFD is a great album but he didnt write all AFD he JUST plays the drums... and his drummin is nothing special ouuch.. auuuuuuuuuuu that was a knife to my heart :( liar, liar hehe sorry Im acting, today is a precious day ;) have fun, love dont hate steven he is cool, and he will come back to kick ass Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on October 21, 2005, 10:37:23 AM AFD is a great album I'm wondering if you like better Matt than Steven cause I think is the other way, Matts drumming is not that special comparing to Steven, at least at my point of view Steven help a lot in the music when it comes out in AFD, thats why a lot of songs starts with drums, perhaps he could be a brain-damage-cocaine sucking guy, it's not of my bussines anyway but his drumming are quite unique in GNR history, also I've read here that he made a demo of locomotive which I think the backbone of that song is based on Steve drumming :peace:but he didnt write all AFD he JUST plays the drums... and his drummin is nothing special Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 21, 2005, 10:44:53 AM Guys, Steven, Matt Sorum, and Brian Mantia, are drummers, I dont know who is technically better than the other, I just know, I prefer the drummers in a certain order and people have their special order too, so dont bash steven, just because you dont like him, I already did the same to brain, I dont like him at all, but, I must respect him, something I recently learned, cause I loathed him because I thought he pretended to be in GNR trying to replace the guys, well that has nothing to do with steven, but I hope that makes you see, things differently.. respect after all, remember steven is a great man and talented, anyway he couldnt have been able to play the famous AFD...
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: MichelleAK3 on October 21, 2005, 10:54:55 AM I dont loathe steven, I feel sorry for the path he took and the way it devastated him, he could still turn his life around if he wanted to, he could work hard get in another band and move forward. Its pointless for him to project everything on axl rose. What he should do is prove to his own fans hes still got it by drumming and getting on with his life.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 21, 2005, 11:25:07 AM I dont loathe steven, I feel sorry for the path he took and the way it devastated him, he could still turn his life around if he wanted to, he could work hard get in another band and move forward. Its pointless for him to project everything on axl rose. What he should do is prove to his own fans hes still got it by drumming and getting on with his life.? and thata is the point!he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on October 21, 2005, 12:57:52 PM and thata is the point! Well I gotta say that whatever he do with life good or bad is up to him, in that case he is kinda lost and I'm very sad about that, Yes he has to move on, but I don't think he can be a better musician if he decide the right side of the path, I think he is music talented with or without drugs, IMO :yes:he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on October 21, 2005, 03:27:13 PM look i saw steven played a few years ago with gilby here in argentina and he totally rocked!!! i already told what happen there and what steven did. so, pepe666, read the thread and then think again of what you are saying...he is an incredible musician..he totally can play and he is a good person...
by the way he is going to play here in november 5. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on October 21, 2005, 06:05:48 PM Yeah, I haven't even touched on this yet, but Pepe where do you get off saying Steven is an asshole? I've met the guy twice and he was totally cool to me. And once I e-mailed him and he sent me back an e-mail. He took time out of his day to talk to a fan. You obviously have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Please refrain from making yourself look any stupider than you already have.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mandy on October 22, 2005, 04:30:40 AM Quote Posted by: Pepe666 he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Ummm unless I am mistaken Pepe, Steven has moved on, he has a new band which has released an EP and they are currently working on their new album.? He is also touring and writing a book.? What more do you want from the guy??? :rant: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: IzzyDutch on October 22, 2005, 07:28:40 AM Izzy still has a lot of contact with Steven, they recorded some songs at Izzy's home last year and he's gonna work on some new songs with Steven and Sheldon. If Steven was still fucked up Izzy wouldn't hang out with him and work on some songs with him..
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on October 22, 2005, 10:51:20 AM what's so shocking about a man who was living the fast life on top of the world to crumble..? he is no different then so many of our rock/metal idols except they weren't kicked out of theuir groups or died young.. he's bitter and to a point I can udnerstand.. maybe one day he will blame himself more, but I am sure he was the scapegoat because gnr were no fucking angels.. That would be like booting nikki sixx from MC for doing drugs, damn hypocrites
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: MichelleAK3 on October 22, 2005, 11:32:12 AM right but when you decide to get clean n sober , you have to set boundries with others whether they are ready to or not, so you can stay sober, when axl was done with heroin he had to set boundries to avoid his own temptation to relapse this is healthy, unfortunately not every addict can quit just because someone else is ready to, and this would be the case with adler, it was the addcition that caused problems and he can sit and blame a person if he wants to but the addiction was the problem.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on October 22, 2005, 12:41:28 PM right but when you decide to get clean n sober , you have to set boundries with others whether they are? ready to or not, so you can stay sober, when axl was done with heroin he had to set boundries to avoid his own temptation to relapse this is healthy, unfortunately not every addict can quit just because someone else is ready to, and this would be the case with adler, it was the addcition that caused problems and he can sit and blame a person if he wants to but the addiction was the problem. the problem is when other addicts are picking on you it's fucking wrong.. people in who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.. lets just say when steve was booted a lot of shit he was getting abuse for was going on in that circle so that is why he is most bitter Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Jonathan on October 22, 2005, 07:35:50 PM People bash him because he's pathetic He still takes drugs, never gets any new material out there and generally fails to convince anyone he's got any brain left at all I love the guy for his GNR stuff and always wish him the best - but u can't hide from the truth forever I agree.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: PJ on October 22, 2005, 09:03:36 PM Quote Posted by: Pepe666 he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Ummm unless I am mistaken Pepe, Steven has moved on, he has a new band which has released an EP and they are currently working on their new album.? He is also touring and writing a book.? What more do you want from the guy??? :rant:? he have done an EP with 6 shitty songs!, he have been touring as GNR revisited/Adler's Appetite (super patetic)!,and also he is writing a book since he was kicked out!+ he have done a lot in 16 years!!! People bash him because he's pathetic He still takes drugs, never gets any new material out there and generally fails to convince anyone he's got any brain left at all I love the guy for his GNR stuff and always wish him the best - but u can't hide from the truth forever I agree.. I AGREE TOO! ;D Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mandy on October 23, 2005, 05:12:09 PM Quote Posted by: Pepe666 he have done an EP with 6 shitty songs!, he have been touring as GNR revisited/Adler's Appetite (super patetic)!,and also he is writing a book since he was kicked out!+ he have done a lot in 16 years!!! Oh I am so sorry that he didnt release a full length album just for you. Those guys released that EP at their own cost with no record label funding. Perhaps they released an EP to check how it would be recieved with the fans before they decided to pour money into a full album. You know people like you piss me off, you come on here bashing Steven about what he has and hasnt done in his life, but who are you to judge - what have you done in your life that is so super special that gives you the right to bash Steven? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on October 23, 2005, 05:25:01 PM People bash him because he's pathetic He still takes drugs, never gets any new material out there and generally fails to convince anyone he's got any brain left at all I love the guy for his GNR stuff and always wish him the best - but u can't hide from the truth forever I agree.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: lynn1961 on October 24, 2005, 01:30:31 AM Exactly. Someone here said that Steven needs to "move on". (Apparently, my favorite words.) I do agree, in some respects, because he's out there with Adler's "Appetite", apparently playing a lot of songs from that album. But, hey, at least the guy has recorded a new album with new material and actually released it, and has been out there touring. And he's written a book. At least he's doing something productive with his life and is trying.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 24, 2005, 12:52:03 PM Steven Adler is a great guy, sadly he was left behind, now he is trying to move on, and you guys cant don anything else but judge him, I hope no one judge you when you fall to pieces like he did... Dont judge if you dont wanna be judged
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on October 28, 2005, 02:50:54 PM Steven Adler is a great guy, sadly he was left behind, now he is trying to move on, and you guys cant don anything else but judge him, I hope no one judge you when you fall to pieces like he did... Dont judge if you dont wanna be judged I do support your thoughts about Steven, one more point favor to Steven is that we haven't been through his life and no one can say that he's just another looser or whatever, cause he did pretty much more than anyone that hangs out in here, dreadfully that also was his fall to hell, fame, fortune can bring you down. If he has a strong mind he can overcome his problems. :peace: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on October 29, 2005, 11:29:04 AM Steven Adler is a great guy, sadly he was left behind, now he is trying to move on, and you guys cant don anything else but judge him, I hope no one judge you when you fall to pieces like he did... Dont judge if you dont wanna be judged Well said. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 04:19:02 PM Quote At least he's doing something productive with his life and is trying. yes even a crack head is doing more then axl rose :rofl: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 29, 2005, 05:07:14 PM Quote At least he's doing something productive with his life and is trying.? ? ? yes even a crack head is doing more then axl rose :rofl: mmm c' on, Mike :rant: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: michaelvincent on October 29, 2005, 05:50:36 PM As I'm fond of saying...
Steven was to GnR what Ringo Starr was to the Beatles. Sure, Ringo was technically great, but he had a sound and a swing that was a perfect compliment to the Beatles sound. Matt was a Bonham type smasher, and John Bonham in the Beatles would have been a disaster. Technically, Bonham could wipe the floor with Starr (as Sorum could with Adler), but in the scheme of GnR it just didn't feel right. It isn't about ability people, it's about FEELING! Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: mikegiuliana on October 29, 2005, 06:39:43 PM Quote At least he's doing something productive with his life and is trying.? ? ? yes even a crack head is doing more then axl rose :rofl: mmm c' on, Mike :rant: it was a joke with a hint of truth... All I meant was someone as fucked up as steve can even get himself together enough to keep the fans informed and try to do something.. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on October 31, 2005, 01:43:45 AM But you blasphemed against the infallible Mr. Rose, mikeg. This thread is for bashing Steve Adler, not making accurate observations about Axl Rose.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on October 31, 2005, 09:42:05 AM But you blasphemed against the infallible Mr. Rose, mikeg.? This thread is for bashing Steve Adler, not making accurate observations about Axl Rose. Man, this thread isnt about bashing Steven!!! This thread is for people who is tired about it... : ok: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Rob on October 31, 2005, 12:22:29 PM Yeah, I know, but the Steve bashers came out in force in this thread.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: -Jack- on November 01, 2005, 12:58:51 AM you can say wherever you want, but in the end... steven is a bitter crackwhore without brain that is stuck in past.... BTW he is also the worst drummer that gnr ever had Hmmm.. thats strange I rememeber Izzy saying something eles... "Adler's drumming made the band;he made a big musical difference.His sense of swing was the push and pull that gave those songs their feel,afterwards,nothing worked." Izzy Stradlin... I also rememeber the drums on the UYI's sounding like a drum machine.. lets not forget Matts amazing drum solos right Pepe? he is shit (btw he is a zombie hehehe) compared to brain.. sorum kicked crackwhore adler's ass.... and sorum is a shit compared to brain.. im sure you havent heard anything that brain have realased and BTW if you think that just cuz the crackwhore was in the AFD lineup make him good.. you are so fuckin wrong... he is a regular drummer nothing special.. sorum is very skilled drummer... but brain is one of the best drummer now.. dont say anything if you dont know about we are talkin just cuz you like him doesnt mean he is good Have you ever spoken to Adler? Call him a crackwhore but I call you a fool for speaking with no real knowledge of how things went down, or of how Adler is as a person. And a fool is the worst thing you can be. If you even understand the real definition of what a fool is. A regular drummer? Last time I checked AFD has more groove than any other GN'R album. "Matt Sorum hits hard, but he plods. It wasn't that loose rock n roll feel anymore. WIth his playing, Guns n Roses became a heavy metal band instead of the rock n roll band that we once were." -Izzy Stradlin Quote Why so much hate for Steven? Is not hate... but he is disgusting cuz:1. He is a prick 2. He talks shit 3.He contradicts himself evertime he talks Quote How could you say such terrible stuff about a dude you've never even met? by the things he says in every interviewQuote By the way you don't know jack shit, cause Steve is an excellent drummer. I'd say the best GN'R ever had. YOU are a fuckin joke... you dont know anything about drummin skills.. rite?do you know something about drumming BTW????.... he is a regular drummer, just cuz you like him... that doesnt make him good, he is very mediocre technically Is he better than Josh Freese? or better than Brain?....or even better than Matt??? THAT IS JUST A JOKE!!!! Quote Also if you're gonna bash GN'R members for being drug addicts, you have to bash all of them. im not bashin him for being drug addict... i am sating the truth.. i never said anything about his addictions... i cant bash al members of gnr for bein junkies... axl was never a drug addict :hihi:Quote At least Steven never actually died (like Slash did). that's the funniest thing ever... maybe the steven didnt die... but he is zombie!, he cant even fuckin talkSteven can talk. Watch behind the music. He fucking speaks coherently, though a bit off. You clearly don't. Better to speak with a lisp than to speak hypocracy and foolishness. O yeah, Adler is once again, the best drummer GN'R has ever had. And is very talented. All a drummer needs to do is keep that groove.. and hes done it better than anyone so far. Dr. light said it perfectly in this thread "it?s not what you play...its how do you play it" ok man you are an asshole...josh freese is a totally diferent from all guns drummers, but brain...he is nothing special to me his music, like buckethead, dont move any feelings on me, nothing. buckethead is a good player but they dont move anything on me and brain for me can play very well, but if you want to listen a bunch of guys who put the heart in their music listen to appetite again. steven wrote appetite songs and he help write the ilusions songs, i bet that brain will not have any credits besides being the drummer in CD. im sure steven fucked you, and that why you dont see truth... and if you are ne of those peoples that think that junkies are shit, fuck you! steven can talk, axl did drugs like the rest they were all junkies, the best junkies you can imagine. matt sorum is way better drummer than brain by the way, brain fucked you could be mine...how can you be so stupid to do that? so pepe666 listen the music in deep and then we talk, it?s not what you play...is how do you play it, and steven knows a lot of that. and if he bang your sister im sure she like it. or maybe he was your crackwhore.. you pay him with drugs rite??? You see man? All you are is a trash spitting fool. No logic in your responce. You bash Steven cause, "he can't even talk," but some of your posts are totally incoherent. Did Steve bang your sister or something? That's the only explanation I can come up with for why you have so much nonsensical hatred for him. im not bashin him cuz he cant talk... im makin fun him cuz he cant talk :hihi:the only thing i said is that he suck as drummer.. and that he is asshole.. He doesn't suck as a drummer. Even you said that so yourself. "just cuz you like him... that doesnt make him good, he is very mediocre technically". And you've never talked to him, im convinced dude. You just call him an asshole cuz you have no real arguement. Go home. AFD is a great album but he didnt write all AFD he JUST plays the drums... and his drummin is nothing special Slash JUST plays the guitar. And yes, Steven's drumming is special. Perhaps its not very complex.. but its special, as everything on AFD is. No one eles can get that groove baby. I dont loathe steven, I feel sorry for the path he took and the way it devastated him, he could still turn his life around if he wanted to, he could work hard get in another band and move forward. Its pointless for him to project everything on axl rose. What he should do is prove to his own fans hes still got it by drumming and getting on with his life. and thata is the point!he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. He has moved on, he has his own band, he tours, and he has his own EP. Quote Posted by: Pepe666 he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Ummm unless I am mistaken Pepe, Steven has moved on, he has a new band which has released an EP and they are currently working on their new album. He is also touring and writing a book. What more do you want from the guy?? :rant: he have done an EP with 6 shitty songs!, he have been touring as GNR revisited/Adler's Appetite (super patetic)!,and also he is writing a book since he was kicked out!+ he have done a lot in 16 years!!! I seriously doubt you've ever listened to the EP. Your just a hater without a point. It's super "patetic" to tour in Adlers Appetite? Whys that? Axl Read all the junk this man has said.. and don't let it bother you because he is a fool. People who make such ignorant comments should honestly be booted from the board. The guy lacks any real argument. Pepe I truthfully hope you can man up to your baseless comments and just admit you have no arguement. Its hard to do (I know because I've had to do it), but in my opinion thats the only way you can win back any credibility. Or you can just hit me with an expected "Adler sucks cock, were you his pimp? Cuz hes a CRACKWHORE! Peple lik you r gay" Your choice. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 01, 2005, 01:10:35 AM you can say wherever you want, but in the end... steven is a? bitter crackwhore without brain that is stuck in past.... BTW he is also the worst drummer that gnr ever had Hmmm.. thats strange I rememeber Izzy saying something eles... "Adler's drumming made the band;he made a big musical difference.His sense of swing was the push and pull that gave those songs their feel,afterwards,nothing worked."? Izzy Stradlin... I also rememeber the drums on the UYI's sounding like a drum machine.. lets not forget Matts amazing drum solos right Pepe? he is shit (btw he is a zombie hehehe) compared to brain.. sorum kicked crackwhore adler's ass.... and sorum is a shit compared to brain.. im sure you havent heard anything that brain have realased and BTW if you think that just cuz the crackwhore was in the AFD lineup make him good.. you are so fuckin wrong... he is a regular drummer nothing special.. sorum is very skilled drummer... but brain is one of the best drummer now.. dont say anything if you dont know about we are talkin just cuz you like him doesnt mean he is good Have you ever spoken to Adler? Call him a crackwhore but I call you a fool for speaking with no real knowledge of how things went down, or of how Adler is as a person. And a fool is the worst thing you can be. If you even understand the real definition of what a fool is. A regular drummer? Last time I checked AFD has more groove than any other GN'R album. "Matt Sorum hits hard, but he plods.? It wasn't that loose rock n roll feel anymore.? WIth his playing, Guns n Roses became a heavy metal band instead of the rock n roll band that we once were." -Izzy Stradlin Quote Why so much hate for Steven? Is not hate... but he is disgusting cuz:1. He is a prick 2. He talks shit 3.He contradicts himself evertime he talks Quote How could you say such terrible stuff about a dude you've never even met? by the things he says in every interviewQuote By the way you don't know jack shit, cause Steve is an excellent drummer.? I'd say the best GN'R ever had. YOU are a fuckin joke... you dont know anything about drummin skills.. rite?do you know something about drumming BTW????.... he is a regular drummer, just cuz you like him... that doesnt make him good, he is very mediocre technically Is he better than Josh Freese? or better than Brain?....or even better than Matt??? THAT IS JUST A JOKE!!!! Quote Also if you're gonna bash GN'R members for being drug addicts, you have to bash all of them. im not bashin him for being drug addict... i am sating the truth.. i never said anything about his addictions... i cant bash al members of gnr for bein junkies... axl was never a drug addict? :hihi:Quote At least Steven never actually died (like Slash did). that's the funniest thing ever... maybe the steven didnt die... but he is zombie!, he cant even fuckin talkSteven can talk. Watch behind the music. He fucking speaks coherently, though a bit off. You clearly don't. Better to speak with a lisp than to speak hypocracy and foolishness. O yeah, Adler is once again, the best drummer GN'R has ever had. And is very talented. All a drummer needs to do is keep that groove.. and hes done it better than anyone so far. Dr. light said it perfectly in this thread "it?s not what you play...its how do you play it" ok man you are an asshole...josh freese is a totally diferent from all guns drummers, but brain...he is nothing special to me his music, like buckethead, dont move any feelings on me, nothing. buckethead is a good player but they dont move anything on me and brain for me can play very well, but if you want to listen a bunch of guys who put the heart in their music listen to appetite again. steven wrote appetite songs and he help write the ilusions songs, i bet that brain will not have any credits besides being the drummer in CD. im sure steven fucked you, and that why you dont see truth... and if you are ne of those peoples that think that junkies are shit, fuck you! steven can talk, axl did drugs like the rest they were all junkies, the best junkies you can imagine. matt sorum is way better drummer than brain by the way, brain fucked you could be mine...how can you be so stupid to do that? so pepe666 listen the music in deep and then we talk, it?s not what you play...is how do you play it, and steven knows a lot of that. and if he bang your sister im sure she like it. or maybe he was your crackwhore.. you pay him with drugs rite??? You see man? All you are is a trash spitting fool. No logic in your responce. You bash Steven cause, "he can't even talk,"? but some of your posts are totally incoherent.? Did Steve bang your sister or something?? That's the only explanation I can come up with for why you have so much nonsensical hatred for him. im not bashin him cuz he cant talk... im makin fun him cuz he cant talk :hihi:the only thing i said is that he suck as drummer.. and that he is asshole.. He doesn't suck as a drummer. Even you said that so yourself. "just cuz you like him... that doesnt make him good, he is very mediocre technically". And you've never talked to him, im convinced dude. You just call him an asshole cuz you have no real arguement. Go home. AFD is a great album but he didnt write all AFD he JUST plays the drums... and his drummin is nothing special Slash JUST plays the guitar. And yes, Steven's drumming is special. Perhaps its not very complex.. but its special, as everything on AFD is. No one eles can get that groove baby. I dont loathe steven, I feel sorry for the path he took and the way it devastated him, he could still turn his life around if he wanted to, he could work hard get in another band and move forward. Its pointless for him to project everything on axl rose. What he should do is prove to his own fans hes still got it by drumming and getting on with his life.? and thata is the point!he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. He has moved on, he has his own band, he tours, and he has his own EP. Quote Posted by: Pepe666 he gotta move on.. and when he moves on... he will prove that if he is a good musician or not.. Ummm unless I am mistaken Pepe, Steven has moved on, he has a new band which has released an EP and they are currently working on their new album.? He is also touring and writing a book.? What more do you want from the guy??? :rant:? he have done an EP with 6 shitty songs!, he have been touring as GNR revisited/Adler's Appetite (super patetic)!,and also he is? writing a book since he was kicked out!+ he have done a lot in 16 years!!! I seriously doubt you've ever listened to the EP. Your just a hater without a point. It's super "patetic" to tour in Adlers Appetite? Whys that? Axl Read all the junk this man has said.. and don't let it bother you because he is a fool. People who make such ignorant comments should honestly be booted from the board. The guy lacks any real argument. Pepe I truthfully hope you can man up to your baseless comments and just admit you have no arguement. Its hard to do (I know because I've had to do it), but in my opinion thats the only way you can win back any credibility. Or you can just hit me with an expected "Adler sucks cock, were you his pimp? Cuz hes a CRACKWHORE! Peple lik you r gay" Your choice. Hi Vaseline, How are you doing? Well I agree with you, in every single word you have written before, as a Steven Adler Defensor, I believe there is magic in his drumming, sadly He was fired before of time. Now You really took it personal didnt you? :), Well it pissed me off too, but I couldnt make him -- PEPE -- see that just because He hates Adler, It means he sucks and period. Anyway He will never see it our way. Anyway, excellent Izzy quotes, I had never read them, they impressed me... Have fun Vaseline!... :smoking: And Pepe maybe you need to move on... Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: -Jack- on November 01, 2005, 01:20:07 AM :beer: Cheers bro.
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on November 01, 2005, 05:59:01 AM :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: i am having a acid trip right now :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl:
steven fuckinn rocksssss :peace: i have my ticket for saturday concert here : ok: : ok: : ok: thanks for all the people who suport steven rock and roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :peace: :peace: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 01, 2005, 12:44:52 PM :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: i am having a acid trip right now :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: steven fuckinn rocksssss :peace: i have my ticket for saturday concert here? : ok: : ok: : ok: thanks for all the people who suport steven rock and roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :peace: :peace: well man, if you are going try to get some pictures please Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on November 01, 2005, 01:50:36 PM :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: i am having a acid trip right now :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: steven fuckinn rocksssss :peace: i have my ticket for saturday concert here : ok: : ok: : ok: thanks for all the people who suport steven rock and roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :peace: :peace: Care to share the joint?? :hihi: Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: dr. light on November 01, 2005, 10:44:28 PM i promise to you people that i will make a full review of saturday?s night for you i really hope that izzy will play
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: i am having a acid trip right now :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: steven fuckinn rocksssss :peace: i have my ticket for saturday concert here : ok: : ok: : ok: thanks for all the people who suport steven rock and roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :peace: :peace: Care to share the joint?? :hihi: if you come here in febrary call me man and i show you all the good places here in buenos aires to have a good rock and roll night Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on November 02, 2005, 11:31:30 AM if you come here in febrary call me man and i show you all the good places here in buenos aires to have a good rock and roll night Cool do you know if there's gonna be any good concert? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on November 02, 2005, 12:47:42 PM Adler's Appetite are the music guest right now on a tv show in Fox Spots Argentina. They gave him a River Plate's shirt. Talked about his relationship with former gunners. The played Nightrain first, now SCOM? : ok:
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 02, 2005, 04:05:21 PM Adler's Appetite are the music guest right now on a tv show in Fox Spots Argentina. They gave him a River Plate's shirt. Talked about his relationship with former gunners. The played Nightrain first, now SCOM? : ok: really man, in what program, did they appear? and what hour? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on November 02, 2005, 07:13:30 PM Futbol Para Todos around 12 pm here in Peru. It going to be aired again after midnight but don't know the exact time :-\
Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 02, 2005, 09:06:23 PM Futbol Para Todos around 12 pm here in Peru. It going to be aired again after midnight but don't know the exact time? :-\ mmm man, Ill try to watch, it anyway how many songs did they play, how were the covers? hwo much time did they stay? tell us everything please Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on November 03, 2005, 10:43:24 AM They played 5 songs during the whole 2 hour show - It's So Easy, Nightrain - Interview- SCOM, Jungle and Brownstone in the final credits. During the interview Steve was asked about his wife, which is from Argentina, and his impressions about the country. The band had a different sound since it's not the actual lineup, they seemed to have a good time, especially Steve.
J.T. Longoria, who worked with Izzy previously, played rhythm guitar. Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on November 03, 2005, 12:38:10 PM They played 5 songs during the whole 2 hour show - It's So Easy, Nightrain - Interview- SCOM, Jungle and Brownstone in the final credits. During the interview Steve was asked about his wife, which is from Argentina, and his impressions about the country. The band had a different sound since it's not the actual lineup, they seemed to have a good time, especially Steve. J.T. Longoria, who worked with Izzy previously, played rhythm guitar. what about you, did you enjoy the songs? do you think they were good, how about steven, can he still rock live? Title: Re: im tired of people bashing steven Post by: Eugene Klein on November 03, 2005, 03:58:02 PM I did like Steven's performance, he played all the songs like they should be played 8) Perfect time and enjoying playing like he always do, showing a big smile to the cameras. The band itself sounded ok, not a great sound but they seemed to enjoy themselves.
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