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Title: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: parisrocks on August 04, 2005, 04:43:31 PM
What is to be the Rolling Stones final world tour has landed many a major guest.  Pearl Jam, Metallica, etc.

I have tix to the last U.S. show in Chicago and wanted your opinions.

Axl obviously respects them, do you think he might send them off?



Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Nytunz on August 04, 2005, 04:46:42 PM
oh no oh no! GNR wanna do things on theyr own this time! No opening no opening no opening acts!  :nervous:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: jameslofton29 on August 04, 2005, 04:50:36 PM
No. I'd say the chances are one in a trillion. Also, there's no reason for him to do it. As long as CD isn't ready, he should just stay home. Nobody gives a fuck about new GNR without CD. If the Stones want him to do it, and he accepts, they better not tell people until every single ticket is sold, because Axl's presence will affect ticket sales.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on August 04, 2005, 04:59:49 PM
oh no oh no! GNR wanna do things on theyr own this time! No opening no opening no opening acts!? :nervous:

That is funny man  : ok:

And I second your thought....


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Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: nesquick on August 04, 2005, 05:11:48 PM
No. Serious things should start now. Stop opening for X or Y or doing festivals etc... If the new GN'R want to play in front of 50.000 people they have to work hard and do it on their own.? Oasis didn't need anybody to sell out all their stadium shows this summer. They just worked hard for it.
So why GN'R couldn't do it? release the album, make a kick-ass promotion, release a # 1 single, and then it will work.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on August 04, 2005, 05:20:31 PM
Let me answer that one with a song title...One in a Million.    :hihi:
Although, personally I'd love it as a cameo appearance, there's no way.   :no:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Mr. Nik™ on August 04, 2005, 05:34:40 PM
maybe we could ask to the Stones if they could gently open for GnR gigs  :hihi:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: DemocracyRose on August 04, 2005, 06:11:54 PM
No no. Its not gonna happen... : ok:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Rob on August 05, 2005, 01:08:25 AM
They should do it.  It would be the perfect time to call out Richard Fortus on stage about his out of control coffee habit.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: lynn1961 on August 05, 2005, 01:37:09 AM
The chances of that are zilch.  "One in a Million", like someone said.  Are you kidding?!?   


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on August 05, 2005, 07:18:26 AM
If the Stones want him to do it, and he accepts, they better not tell people until every single ticket is sold, because Axl's presence will affect ticket sales.
i thought the same thing.if GNR were to open then i think the last ever stones show would be infront of a GNR audience which is a bit strange  :nervous:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: ClintroN on August 05, 2005, 07:29:41 AM
i dont know if it would happen, but i think Guns N' Roses would have the respect and honer of opeining for The Rolling Stones :yes:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: Nytunz on August 05, 2005, 09:11:10 AM
Well, Metallica is opening for Stones, and thats ok by me! 2 outdated bands.. psss haha


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: C0ma on August 05, 2005, 11:39:20 AM
i thought the same thing.if GNR were to open then i think the last ever stones show would be infront of a GNR audience which is a bit strange? :nervous:
You aren't trying to say that Guns would outdraw The Stones are you?? Look back at the 2002 shows, they were only able to put asses in the seats for 4 shows, everything else was a disaster. If GnR opened for the Stones at their first show of the Tour at Fenway Park the ratio would probably be in the ballpark of 10:1 Stones:Guns fans. Plus there arent too many younger GnR fans that could afford to buy Stones tickets....face value the tickets go from $63-$453............ Plus I think all of the shows are already sold out, or atleast 90 percent sold. So GnR wouldn't affect sales at this point.



Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: nesquick on August 05, 2005, 12:00:15 PM
The 2002 American tour was a desaster because:
- there was nothing to promote, no new album (the main reason).
- The promotion of the tour itself was very poor.

I'm standing for a monstruous promotion when CD comes out. if not, the band will die.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: cbeier78 on August 05, 2005, 12:18:49 PM
    i hate to tell you,    but this band has been dead for going on 3 years.   it's over .  i think axl has thrown in the towel.  and i think the reason for no news or info is enbarrassment.   VR has formed, pulled off 2 tours,working on it that is.,had a no.1 album and single,  and are about to put out their second album before gnr.  it is fucking pathetic that they have done all this SINCE the 2002 disaster.  and believe me VR are nothing to GNR.  but just take a look around.............IT IS FUCKING OVER.  IMO we will never see CHINESE DEMOCRACY.  i know its possible but if it did finally drop I WOULD HAVE A FUCKING HEART ATTACK before i ever listened to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AND I FUCKING HATE THE WAY I FEEL because i have never loved anything the way i love GNR
                   IT TRULY BREAKS MY HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: nesquick on August 05, 2005, 12:22:33 PM
Quote
had a no.1 album and single
NO. For me the only real chart is the Top 40.? all those "mainstream rock chart" and "contemporary moderno rock chart" and blablabla don't count. I speack about the real one, led by beyonce, eminem, Usher or Green Day.

I've never sen a VR single in the Official Top 40. I've also never seen VR on MTV. I speack about MTV and not the marginal MTV2. MTV, the real one.

VR are not that successfull, don't exagerate. It's still a small band in term of success. I'm expecting MUCH more from the new GN'R. Do they have ambition? Maybe not as much as the 87-93 erea (it's impossible), but at least as much as Green Day (quite successfull right now).


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: madagas on August 05, 2005, 12:36:14 PM
ambition makes you look pretty ugly.......kicking squeeling gucci little piggy....... :nervous:


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: nesquick on August 05, 2005, 12:44:09 PM
What?


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: redarmy76 on August 05, 2005, 01:21:32 PM
Let me answer that one with a song title...One in a Million.


So, what you're saying is that there is a chance!

(sorry I couln't resist the Dumb and Dumber quote opportunity


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: providman on August 05, 2005, 01:22:15 PM
I would think, hope, & expect Mick & co to have too much respect for the real GnR to let these wanna-be gunners, these pretenders, share a stage with them.

You want to share the stage with the Stones, you have to earn that right, & this "band"(for lack of a better word) has definitely not earned anything, except a bunch of paychecks for being Axl's lackys, toadys, enablers, & apologists.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: DunkinDave on August 05, 2005, 02:16:01 PM
I would think, hope, & expect Mick & co to have too much respect for the real GnR to let these wanna-be gunners, these pretenders, share a stage with them.

If the current lineup came on unannounced before a Stones concert, they would get booed off the stage.

No disrespect to the current lineup, but true rock fans don't give a shit about them.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: jameslofton29 on August 05, 2005, 07:01:18 PM
DunkinDave, good post. W. Axl Rose misinterpreted my previous post. I said the Stones better make sure the shows are sold out, because it would affect ticket sales. Not in a good way. If GNR showed up, shows wouldn't sell out, and like you said, they would get booed off the stage. Axl would freak out and try and cause a riot. But with the Stones playing after GNR, a riot attempt would fail. Axl just isn't what he used to be, and about 99.9% of the world realizes this. GNR will NOT share the stage with the Stones.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: AdZ on August 05, 2005, 07:22:52 PM
You really think Stones fans wouldn't turn up because GN'R were opening?


Get real...


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: jameslofton29 on August 05, 2005, 07:28:43 PM
Get Real??? Stones fans are from all generations. The new fans don't give a shit about GNR, and neither do their old fans. Only a small percentage would show up to see GNR. It would definitely affect ticket sales.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on August 05, 2005, 07:34:39 PM
The old band opened for the Stones, no? What's the difference now? I think it would be a huge thing to do. This Rolling Stones' tour is gonna be HUGE and have some of the top bands/groups in the world opening for them. And you talk about how few GNR fans would be in the audience. Do you really think that there will be more Black Eyed Peas' fans in the show(s) they're opening in?


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: parisrocks on August 05, 2005, 11:54:53 PM
Do you really think that there will be more Black Eyed Peas' fans in the show(s) they're opening in?

You took the words right outta my mouth. 

Great point.

. . .  and @ $400 a ticket, not even Destiny's Child could get me to leave.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: killingvector on August 06, 2005, 12:34:38 AM
I think the timing is off for this, but if Axl were looking to get out on the road, I think opening for the greatest living band is a great choice. Maybe a NYC/LA swing only, no in between dates.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: DemocracyRose on August 06, 2005, 06:35:49 AM
Get Real??? Stones fans are from all generations. The new fans don't give a shit about GNR, and neither do their old fans. Only a small percentage would show up to see GNR. It would definitely affect ticket sales.

No it wouldnt... Stones fans dont care about a "warm up band"... Actually i couldnt care less about whos going to warm up for GNR, when they are gong on tour someday...


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: AxemanOnFire on August 06, 2005, 08:29:58 AM
Get Real??? Stones fans are from all generations. The new fans don't give a shit about GNR, and neither do their old fans. Only a small percentage would show up to see GNR. It would definitely affect ticket sales.
Oh come on. I agree new GN'R would get a less than warm reception from the Stones crowd (especially the guys who saw the GN'R on the Steel Wheels tour), but affect ticket sales? Please. We're talking about The Rolling Stones here, the greatest rock 'n' roll band ever. They could have Britney Spears opening for them and they'd still sell out in hours. The opening band makes no difference to the ticket sales when we're talking about the best band ever to walk the stage, man. And remember, they haven't toured for as long as new GN'R - the 2002 Forty Licks tour (they haven't toured with new material since 1997's Voodoo Lounge tour).

New Guns opening for the Stones would indeed be disasterous for new Guns, though.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: providman on August 06, 2005, 11:24:41 AM
I think the timing is off for this, but if Axl were looking to get out on the road, I think opening for the greatest living band is a great choice. Maybe a NYC/LA swing only, no in between dates.

You make it seem like all Axl has to do is snap his fingers & ta-da! Open for the Stones in NY & LA? No problem!

Get real, dude. Yea, of course opening for the greatest living band would be a great choice, no shit. I can name about a thousand other bands it ain't happening for, either. Axl is just one of them.


Title: Re: Odds of GN'R opening a show for the Stones?
Post by: ppbebe on August 06, 2005, 12:19:29 PM
Somehow I don't see Guns N' Roses wanting to share the stage with the Rolling stones. They may highly respect The Rolling Stones for its honour but if they, esp Axl, are that keen on the stones is doubtful.

Actually i couldnt care less about whos going to warm up for GNR, when they are gong on tour someday...
Me neither. If the warm up band is good enough for a warm up. it's like a bonus.