Here Today... Gone To Hell!

As we all know, artists ranging from Brian May, Shaq, Moby, and Sarah Mclachlan have done some work on the new material. This brings up an interesting question. Let say the announcement comes 'soon'. They also announce the tracklist, and none of these people are on CD. Would this lift all the gag orders, and allow these people to go into detail about what they worked on? A gag order can't last forever, and a CD release should make the orders null and void. Or could Axl have some agreement that they can only talk about their work IF the songs they worked on are released? I'm still surprised none of these people have broke their gag order, especially Shaq. He talks constantly, except about what he did with Axl.

Sarah Mclachlan?  Thats a new one to me James.  Where did you hear that?

Does anyone know for certain about the GAG ORDERS?

Can anyone prove it? Or is it just an urban - axl - legend?

Moby was only producer, he played no music.

Shaq said he did some rapping/back vocals on a song, but no-one confirmed or denied it

Moby has talked pretty openly about Axl and his experience-if you are not employed by Guns n Roses, a gag order is useless-am I right about this? It will be interesting to see how many guest apperances there are.

James, why do you continuously start topics and ask questions about things NOBODY that comes to this board knows the answer to? ???

What would be interesting is to find out, if the gag order does exist, what is in that document.

I dont know the exact year that the Sarah Mclachlan thing came up, but I remember an interview with her from a few years ago where she is asked something about it, and she said 'no comment'. Madagas, I dont 'continuously start topics'. What's wrong with asking a question that might stir the imagination? Madagas, if you can't handle it, here's a thread for you: What year did AFD come out?

What album is that? I don't know 1995? ;D

I thought it was some Opera singer named Sara bermingham   that sang on CD?

i think the Shaw thing is more of a jam than anything else....Axl likes the likers, Shaq was in the same studio, Axl says why dont u come on in and hang out. Axl and the big daddy must have been funny

This is the first I've heard of Sarah Mclachlan  JL, maybe someone else can confirm.

I remember reading a while back on VH1's website that he performed on the [supposed] song "The General" with Sarah Brightman. There was even like a one or two paragraph review of the song.

That is who I meant not sara bermingham

I rembering hearing something about Sarah Mclachlan, but can't recall when or source.

I dont really recall any of these special performers being cited as saying in no other words, "sorry cant talk about that song I did with Axl for CD". Honestly so much has probably changed over the last few years on who or what will make the cut for the album that I think when Axl collaborated with these other artists he probanly told them their material might just collect dust in his basement. I cant see the sense in having a gag order on say Shaq, I mean if he ran into Chris Pittman on the street, he'd probably mistake Chris for his butler or something.

buttcrack, that's how it is with me. I remember hearing about it somewhere several years ago, and I remember reading her 'no comment' interview in some magazine. I wish I could remember the name of it. I know there's other people here who remember this, because I had a discussion about it with someone here, but I don't remember who. LOL! Hopefully, whoever it was will post in this thread.

Sorry for asking this guys, but when you talk about SHAQ, you mean, SHAQILL ONEAL, or however, its written?    and what could that  "shaq" have done with GNR, that is something I would really like to know...

Shaq 'guest rapped' over one of their songs, in the late 90's IIRC.

Personally, I think the whole episode with Shaq has been blown way out of proportion, he obviously just had a little fun with them that one time, and some people/articles/etc. are saying he "collaborated" with Axl.

I would think once it comes out, these people will be able to talk about it.? ?But then again, who knows,? are they only under contract or have gag order if their work is used?? Seems so dramatic...using terms like gag order.? It's a rock n roll album for god sake..  Just to edit my post, I didn't mean you James using the term gag order, I meant the fact that their these people can't talk about it.  I know Moby has but the band and all that.

DTJ, this gag order shit is one of the strangest things about this situation. Not really the fact that there's gag orders, but how no one has broke one. What is it about this whole thing that makes people stay silent? This is where the 'CD doesn't exist' theory comes into play. If there was really something there, you would think that someone would have talked after all these years. But there's just pure silence.

It really is very, very odd.   Axl has either threatened to sue up the ass if these people talk or they are just super loyal..I guess.

DTJ, the most troubling thing concerning no leaks isn't from the guests on CD, but from people who work at the studios that CD has been recorded at. You would think that the janitor would at least say something! Its a very strange situation. This album has been in the making for like 7 years and no one betrays his trust? Hell, Jesus Christ didn't even have that kind of loyalty! Axl must pay these people ALOT of money.

Actually , I expect fred the janitor to join here any day now and spill the beans.  : ok:

The janitor starts now!

Seriously, it is a very unqiue situation and James has a point that things have been so rediculously quiet that it's quite possible that the album isn't not complete.   Lets see we have 5 months left.

what i woul like to know is if any one has ever approached axl about any kind of collaberation or has he been out of the scene for so long that nobody has been interested in having axl take part in someone elses album or has he just declined any offers that might have been made.

Alan Niven was fired from his position as a manager in '91, and was asked to contribute to an RS article in 2000. That's nine years.

"[...] Doug Goldstein called me, threatening to sue Niven for allegedly breaching a confidentiality agreement. Niven later received a letter from Axl' personal lawyer in Los Angeles, demanding he contact Rolling Stone and attempt to withdraw his comments. Failure to do so, Axl's lawyer warned would result in "swift and sure legal action.""

The article (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=32)

There's the answer...which what I figured, Axl will sue the pants off of anybody who talks if they are under contract or signed such an agreement.  And prolly anybody who hasn't signed any confidentiality agreement is not privey to any information on the project.

Don't you guys see how easy it would be for someone in the GNR camp to reveal information "off the record"? It rarely happens. Which is strange, considering the veil of secrecy that CD is under. People have been keeping these secrets for a really long time, eventually someone is gonna be a tattle-tale.

Sure, and they have already. Where'd you think those "anonymous sources close to Axl" came from in various articles? Sometimes their stuff probably comes up as rumors  that are very hard to validate since nobody wants to go to the record saying it is so. But no-one who really knows will not say anything openly, because they'd get the same treatment as Niven (which is pretty sad, I'd personally be quite interested in hearing his side of the story).

But no one will really talk about it at length or even sorta detailed...off the record..can't be trusted, these people either have the fear of god put into them by the lawyers or there is just nothing happening.

DTJ, I think some sources who speak "off the record" can be trusted. They just want to remain anonymous and don't want to be sued. But I agree with you about nothing happening. Maybe that is why we get very little info. The project is at a standstill.

Actually people talk about Chinese Democracy. Sometimes they give some info. I think there's overconfidence with the involved people, it's not based at fear threat. Besides itt's not the most important thing in the world to discuss or comment. Brian May and Moby have done a few statements once. One of them told that there's a song that starts like dead horse or something...

I have read the comments from various people that have been privey to the project but I was talking more like in depth information as to what's happening.  NYT article was the closest thing to "interesting" I have read about the whole thing to date.     I am sure the guy who wrote the article is getting sued :hihi:   I do agree, it's is not the most important thing in the media now.