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Title: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 10:13:22 AM
http://bucketheadland.proboards19.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=interviews&thread=1121696483

couple small gnr mentions.  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Pingouirose on July 18, 2005, 10:16:57 AM
You must be registered  :'(


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 10:18:25 AM
You must be registered  :'(

Correct.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 18, 2005, 10:22:25 AM
Will somebody cut and paste the interview?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 18, 2005, 10:26:44 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 10:28:15 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board

Nice.  ::) Real classy.  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jarmo on July 18, 2005, 10:29:48 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board

Nice.? ::) Real classy.? : ok:


Well, a bit.

But it's also really classy way of getting members to a board by making them register to read an interview don't you think?

Could somebody just copy the GN'R mentions so that we don't all have to register to read them?


/jarmo


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: vicarious existence on July 18, 2005, 10:30:57 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board

Nice.  ::) Real classy.  : ok:

It's nothing personal, we're all just too lazy and rather not have to put any effort into finding this type of stuff


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 18, 2005, 10:33:07 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board

Nice.? ::) Real classy.? : ok:
ahh sorry ??? but that's not against you don't worry :)
it's just I don't want to register on a bh board. Try to understand some people are not fan of him. : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: vicarious existence on July 18, 2005, 10:35:55 AM
it's probably better if you actually register for the board since the original post contains a bunch of images and stuff... anywhere here it is, courtesy of Saul...

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Heres a treat for you guys. Longtime Buckethead friend and drummer , Brain , sat down and spoke with us recently. Ever the wise cracking funny guy , Brain simply cant resist cracking some funnys as he talks about Buckethead , GNR , C2B3 and his influences ... enjoy!





BH.TK - Brain , 1st off we are honored that you would take time to do this interview
with our community! Each and everyone of us are huge fans from your work with Buckethead!
Do you actually follow and track your fanbase with tools like the internet , websites and
message boards?

Brain - Not really. I don't like to read. I like to look at pictures!





BH.TK - Could you tell us a little about yourself? Where did you grow up and how did you
get into drumming?


Brain - San Jose Ca. Got into Drumming so I could get into parties for free.


BH.TK - On the subject of websites and the internet again , I was told I have to ask what is up with
Brainshreds.com? Can we expect a full out site in the future?


Brain - Working on it right now. Should be done next month.


BH.TK - Ok , if you dont mind I'd like to get some Buckethead questions in , 1st ...
How did you meet Buckethead?! What brought you guys together? And do you realize that you and Buckethead gel better then any other musicians you both have played with?! (apoligies
to pinchface and larry lalonde!)


Brain - I met Bucket at a graveyard called Colma in 1992 he was soloing on some graves. We became friends and started jamming right after that.






BH.TK - Do you have any memories or cool stories about Buckethead you could share with us?


Brain - I think he's still soloing on some graves right now.





BH.TK - Ok , it seems everyone wants to know this .. will you , Bucket and Butthouse ever go into the studio and give us a studio album? How about another tour?! Most every Bucketfan worth it's weight in skinpiles has most of the 2004 bootlegs of you guys! Some people think
you guys are one of the best power trios of alltime , myself included!


Brain - Nothing now. I think house is woking full time at some porn shop in Oakland.






BH.TK - How about c2b3 , any plans for a follow up album?


Brain - No. We decided to only do that one album.






BH.TK - Any upcoming projects with Bucket that we dont know about?


Brain - New Praxis. Due out in September.





BH.TK - Have you heard the rumor of Bucket and System Of a Down singer Serj recording together?
Any thoughts on this? Do you think Bucket may be aiming for mainstream reconigtion?


Brain - Serj is on the Praxis. So is Mike Patton, Masta Killa from the Wu-Tang, Iggy Pop, and many other freaks.


BH.TK - Speaking of mainstream , Guns N Roses , it was fun while it lasted it seemed.

Do you expect the music he recorded for the album to stay on the album? Most of us worry
that we will never hear what he recorded for the album.


Brain - So do I.





BH.TK - Are you excited to go back on tour with GNR? Will it be different without Bucket?


Brain - Yeah if they give me a bucket of money.




BH.TK - You and Bucket have played countless shows together in so many places around the
world , any favorite shows or citites come to mind?


Brain - All the ones were I got paid over 2G.



BH.TK - Everyone raves about the Cuckoo Clocks Of hell album! Can you tell us a little
about the recording. Rumor is some of the drums are "real" and some are programmed.
How much did you actually play on?


Brain - All of it. I was trying to learn double bass.


BH.TK - What are your thoughts on drum programming and it's future?! Is IT the future?


Brain - It's cool. I program myself.






BH.TK - Are you going to tour with Tom Waits? How was he like to work with?


Brain - He was awesome! He was awesome! He was awesome! He was awesome! He was awesome!


BH.TK - Do you remember your "one stroke done" comment?


Brain - No


BH.TK - Everyone is interested to know who you rank as your top 5 best drummers?


Brain - Buddy Rich, Tony Williams, Denardo Coleman, Bohnam, and Keith Moon


BH.TK - Have you seen Bucketheads Secret Recipe DVD yet? Do you know you are featured on it alot?!


Brain - No. Do I look cool.

BH.TK - Of Course! With a face like that , how could you not?!





BH.TK - Brain , do you have any current or upcoming projects you wanna let us know about?
You can plug whatever you want here , nows your chance!


Brain - Sure I'm starting a porn DVD series called The Binge Brothers. Look out for it in 2007.


BH.TK - Thanks so much Brain for taking time out to do this! Always know that you have
a ton of very dedicated fans within the Buckethead community. We fully support you 110%
And if this music buisness fails you can always sell mobile homes!


Brain - Love ya guys


BH.TK - P.S , I was told I had to ask if you have a special lady in your life right now?!


Brain - Yes Rocco Siffredi



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 10:36:17 AM
come on put it here, nobody wants to register on a bh board

Nice.  ::) Real classy.  : ok:


Well, a bit.

But it's also really classy way of getting members to a board by making them register to read an interview don't you think?

Could somebody just copy the GN'R mentions so that we don't all have to register to read them?


/jarmo

Getting members to a board? LOL , sure Jarmo. The bucketboard is for registered members because we had a flood of "guests" going there and copy and pasting links to our mp3 downloads all over the net killing our bandwith.

As for "copying and pasting" the interview , I dont remember giving anyone permission to do so? Hmmmm  ???

 :P Just kidding.

The only GNR mentions are , Brain says he will tour with GNR again if they give him a "bucket of money"  :rofl: and when told that alot of fans worry Bucketheads parts may not be on the album he said "so do I"

Thats it , nothing of much interest for you GNR fans. But theres some "Brain" stuff there for B rain fans.  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: BaDoBsEsSiOn418 on July 18, 2005, 10:54:13 AM
and i always thought matt sorum was an ass.  all this guy cares about is money?  or is he being sarcastic? 


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 18, 2005, 11:09:34 AM
I have always come to the defense of Brain for people saying that all he cares about is money.  But now I'm starting to feel like he indeed does not give a shit.  Theres just too many interviews now reaffirming that its all about the money.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Pingouirose on July 18, 2005, 11:13:04 AM
Thank you VE and Saul ?: ok:
Brain isn't very talkative.. I don't know if it's a joke but I think Axl wouldn't like the 'money' thing ?:-X


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 11:22:59 AM
It is a joke on Brains part. Brain is a very very sarcastic person and before the interview me and him were joking about people taking his money comments seriously.  :hihi:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 18, 2005, 11:33:48 AM
Did anyone of  you even read the whole interview and the NON Gnr parts. He is always joking around. If he was really in it for the money do you think he would really say that over and over again?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 18, 2005, 11:40:14 AM
Did anyone of? you even read the whole interview and the NON Gnr parts. He is always joking around. If he was really in it for the money do you think he would really say that over and over again?

Dave, we don't fuckin know.  I don't know the guy personally.  He enjoys talking about Tom Waits but doesn't say anything about Axl.  He's close friends with Bucket who of course quit.  He does talk about the money frequently.  Sure I could be wrong.  But we don't really know now do we?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 18, 2005, 11:49:43 AM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.
Or Do you think we are looking out for his porn DVD series called The Binge Brothers in 2007?  :hihi:
Who is Rocco Siffredi?

Axl would love his jokes, IMO. Imagine how their conversation would go....

Funny as hell, thanks saul. And vicarious existence!


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Jamie on July 18, 2005, 11:58:14 AM
He's obviously joking about the money thing.

"You and Bucket have played countless shows together in so many places around the world, any favourite shows or cities come to mind?

All the ones where I got paid over 2G"

I mean even I thought when he made the comments about money in the GnR interviews he might be serious, and may not like Axl or whatever. But him n Buckethead, are like best friends. He's obviously joking when he says them things about BH.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 18, 2005, 11:58:52 AM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...


Who is Rocco Siffredi?

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: //JK75 on July 18, 2005, 12:10:11 PM
Boring reading...
Specially if you're not a good Bucket and Brain' Fan...
Brain looks like a very smart guy, he just likes to look at pictures !!!!  :rofl:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: gilld1 on July 18, 2005, 12:29:34 PM
I think he's joking about the monet stuff but could you blame him if he wasn't?  The current GNR is NOT about the album, tour, promotion, etc.  So how could it not be all about the cash for Brain?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 18, 2005, 12:30:32 PM
jk75 seems very amused to read it. :yes:

I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...

Until people get it? :hihi:

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...
Yeah, nothing wrong with talking about yourself as if about your friend to hide your own addiction.
No, not that I'm saying you must like watching porno. Don't worry,  Nothing wrong with that, mate. Thanks for your input.

Hmm he's in love with a porno ACTOR.....that's a bit of shock, oh well....


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 18, 2005, 12:30:48 PM
Did anyone of? you even read the whole interview and the NON Gnr parts. He is always joking around. If he was really in it for the money do you think he would really say that over and over again?

Dave, we don't fuckin know.? I don't know the guy personally.? He enjoys talking about Tom Waits but doesn't say anything about Axl.? He's close friends with Bucket who of course quit.? He does talk about the money frequently.? Sure I could be wrong.? But we don't really know now do we?


BH.TK - You and Bucket have played countless shows together in so many places around the
world , any favorite shows or citites come to mind?


Brain - All the ones were I got paid over 2G.


Its not about gnr and the money, its about doing shows with BH for the money right?
God.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Butch Français on July 18, 2005, 12:39:35 PM
haha, hilarious! the guy is awesome! :hihi: : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Continental Drift on July 18, 2005, 12:46:26 PM
The guy is a total smart a$$ and his interviews are USELESS. He's a good drummer, but seriously... bring back Josh Freese. :peace:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 18, 2005, 12:56:33 PM
The guy is a total smart a$$ and his interviews are USELESS. He's a good drummer, but seriously... bring back Josh Freese. :peace:

Josh Freese is the biggest hired gun in the music business.  If a popular singer has a solo album out, chances are Josh played on the album.  Check his resume.  Very impressive.  But Josh has a very large price tag.  So I don't see it happening.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: DOASHK on July 18, 2005, 01:01:53 PM
It is a joke on Brains part. Brain is a very very sarcastic person and before the interview me and him were joking about people taking his money comments seriously.? :hihi:

you lie, you brain sticker-upper


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 18, 2005, 01:44:28 PM
The guy is a total smart a$$ and his interviews are USELESS. He's a good drummer, but seriously... bring back Josh Freese. :peace:

No. Bring back Steven Adler. Or Matt Sorum.

Brain sounds like a dickhole.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Dot on July 18, 2005, 01:54:22 PM
I don?t know but his words give me the impression that he?s not very excited about his role in GnR


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: madagas on July 18, 2005, 02:01:57 PM
Since the majority of people on this board have an IQ of 50............and can't tell the difference between smartass comments and sincere comments.

DRUM!: We have to ask. Guns N? Roses. Can we talk about this?
Brain: I talked with Tom about this (interview) too, and he said, ?As long as you don?t get into personal stuff, as long as it?s about music, I?m totally fine with that.? And that?s what Axl says. I can?t say what Axl eats, but I can talk about my playing.

DRUM!: Our readers need to know what Axl puts in his burrito.
Brain: (laughs) I want to say something, but I can?t.

DRUM!: Okay, Chinese Democracy ?
Brain: ? they?re pretty much 95 percent done with it.

DRUM!: (laughs) We can quote you on this?
Brain: (laughs) If you want. But really, I think the album sounds great. What we?ve done is awesome. I heard it recently and was like ? damn. I want it to come out.


In another interview Brain says that he really has a great feeling about the album and he thinks it is going to be Gnr's Led Zeppelin II. He also talks about how if another tour starts up, he wants to be a part of it. What more do you want?
 :rant: :rant:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 18, 2005, 02:04:00 PM
I don?t know but his words give me the impression that he?s not very excited about his role in GnR

So true. :yes:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: PhillyRiot on July 18, 2005, 02:04:23 PM
I agree, he is a smartass. ?Mabey it is his way of avoiding questions he is not allowed to answer. ?Seems like whenever he is asked about GNR he talks about as long as he is paid. ?It is nice to know that is all he cares about. ?He personifies the label "Hired Gun."


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 18, 2005, 02:05:46 PM
Since the majority of people on this board have an IQ of 50............and can't tell the difference between smartass comments and sincere comments.

DRUM!: We have to ask. Guns N? Roses. Can we talk about this?
Brain: I talked with Tom about this (interview) too, and he said, ?As long as you don?t get into personal stuff, as long as it?s about music, I?m totally fine with that.? And that?s what Axl says. I can?t say what Axl eats, but I can talk about my playing.

DRUM!: Our readers need to know what Axl puts in his burrito.
Brain: (laughs) I want to say something, but I can?t.

DRUM!: Okay, Chinese Democracy ?
Brain: ? they?re pretty much 95 percent done with it.

DRUM!: (laughs) We can quote you on this?
Brain: (laughs) If you want. But really, I think the album sounds great. What we?ve done is awesome. I heard it recently and was like ? damn. I want it to come out.


In another interview Brain says that he really has a great feeling about the album and he thinks it is going to be Gnr's Led Zeppelin II. He also talks about how if another tour starts up, he wants to be a part of it. What more do you want?
 :rant: :rant:

Shit, I thought the album didn't exist ! :rofl:
Thanks Brain for the comments !


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: usurper on July 18, 2005, 02:08:10 PM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...


Who is Rocco Siffredi?

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...

Is Brain gay then?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 18, 2005, 02:13:20 PM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...


Who is Rocco Siffredi?

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...

Is Brain gay then?
There are some members of new gnr that are gays, but I don't know about Brain.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: GNROSAS on July 18, 2005, 02:19:47 PM
Being sarcastic is expected as long as GNR and C.D situation is like it is....

I guess when CD is out he will talk a bit more seriously....

He will never talk 100% serious. I have read interviews also from other musicians who play with Brain and it seems all of them are Sarcastic....Their music is also weird and sarcastic so i don't expect them to talk dead serious....Usually you have to read between the lines.....

And Money is a big Part for someone to stay in GNR....Especially in their Age.....
They are not living on the road like GNR used to leave during AFD....
They are proffesional musicians......I bet my ass that Axl,Slash,Duff also care about money and maybe they care more than Brain....Afterall Brain probably is not a millionaire and he probably has Direct debits and mortages to pay each month......

i Prefer Brain being sarcastic than Tommy and Dizzy giving us release timeplans that never come true....


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Brain - Serj is on the Praxis. So is Mike Patton, Masta Killa from the Wu-Tang, Iggy Pop, and many other freaks.

Oh My Fuckin God.......That will be awesome.....


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: RnT on July 18, 2005, 02:46:23 PM
I prefer the FANS beeing sarcastic and the BAND telling us the truth.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: usurper on July 18, 2005, 03:40:37 PM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...


Who is Rocco Siffredi?

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...

Is Brain gay then?
There are some members of new gnr that are gays, but I don't know about Brain.

Who is gay in New GNR?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 18, 2005, 03:59:46 PM
I can't believe how can anyone still take his money comment seriously. People's lack of humour scares me.

well, it is funny. but he kind does the same joke over and over ...


Who is Rocco Siffredi?

god, my "porn-addict" friend would smack you if he heard that ... rocco siffredi is like modern porno actor god. ... he is italian i'm pretty sure...
i dont watch porn ... not that there is anything wrong with that ...

Is Brain gay then?
There are some members of new gnr that are gays, but I don't know about Brain.

Who is gay in New GNR?

not that there is anything wrong with that.

ps: i really dont watch porn
pps: the friend i talked about is not myself
ppps: rocco is more like his idol. i know, lame.
ppps: chris pitman could be gay. i mean. the hat in Rio 2001 ...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 04:30:55 PM
Brain worries that BH wont be on CD? Interesting. It probably means he isn't on CD, he just cant come out and say it specifically. This really sucks. Imagine the time it will take to redo BH's parts, redo them again, and then work on finishing touches. I also agree with several of you about Brain getting sick of the situation.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 18, 2005, 04:46:56 PM
Well if the buckethead parts are erased and replaced by more bluesy based guitar solos (Fortus), I would be VERY happy. It would be my dream. The only way to "compensate" Slash departure is to put a Rocker in the spotlights, and for me it's pretty clear, it's Richard.  What most of you don't seem to understand is that people ask for Rock n' Roll.

However, I agree to say Brain may be pissed off by the current situation. He is a great drummer.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: F*ck Fear on July 18, 2005, 05:05:33 PM
I think Axl should drop the fuckhead.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Walapino on July 18, 2005, 05:10:43 PM
I think Axl should drop the fuckhead.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool   :rofl:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 18, 2005, 06:25:42 PM
The so do I comment is pretty scarey.   Even if he is joking, when you joke about a matter like that and you say only kidding, there is some hint of truth to it.



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Scabbie on July 18, 2005, 07:05:16 PM
Please can someone pm me the interview I can't get to the first two pages of this thread

Ta

Andrew


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 07:14:17 PM
I think most are reading way to much into this....both ways.

There's obviously sarcasm while more than likely a hint of truth as well.  He mentions it too much to be totally serious and too much not to be interested in the monetary gains associated with his chosen profession.

Who gives a fuck anyway.  He's a professional musician for cryin' out loud.  I hope he considers GNR a positive creative outlet and makes a bazillion fucking dollars playing tunes he helped create.

Plus that, the guy seems like he has a sense of humor about it all, doesn't take his art/vocation too seriously. 



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 07:19:51 PM
Falcon, this is the first time we've had a hint that Buckethead might not be on CD. Very troubling comment, even though he gave a very simplistic response to the question. Its easy to read between the lines. If its true, Nov.29 can be thrown out the window.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 07:31:49 PM
Falcon, this is the first time we've had a hint that Buckethead might not be on CD. Very troubling comment, even though he gave a very simplistic response to the question. Its easy to read between the lines. If its true, Nov.29 can be thrown out the window.

Personally, I could care less if BH appears on the record.? Fine if he does, fine if he doesn't.? Nov.29 is every bit as useless as anything else we've ever heard anyway, no reason to read too much into Brains comments unless something was/is concrete, which it's not....by any means.

I realize stripping and replacing BH's parts could make release even more difficult but I also realize it's release is/was by no means eminent.?

Expectations can't be unfullfilled if nothings expected anyway, for now at least.?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 07:39:52 PM
I just wish Buckethead could have stuck it out, at least for another year. Maybe Axl could have finally finished it. I wonder when all these gag orders expire? It would be interesting to find out from BH what happened to cause him to leave.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 08:00:06 PM
It would be interesting to find out from BH what happened to cause him to leave.

It would nice to hear the "why's" about everything but I suspect we never will, it would be a "he said/he said" situation anyway.

An educated guess would be his lack of desire to play within a group dynamic, no plan for a release and subsequent tour and a general disinterest in the project as a whole.

I mean let's face it, GNR was a side project for BH, he's a solo artist first and foremost.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 08:33:29 PM
I have a question: If Buckethead's parts are not going to be on CD, would this make his gag order null and void? This could be the reason we get no real info from anybody about whether he's on it or not. Buckethead could literally "spill the beans".


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 08:49:43 PM
I have a question: If Buckethead's parts are not going to be on CD, would this make his gag order null and void? This could be the reason we get no real info from anybody about whether he's on it or not. Buckethead could literally "spill the beans".

It's not going to happen. It's hard enough to get Buckethead to speak out about himself and his projects , let alone instigate some kinda pissing war with Axl Rose.

It seems to me that Buckethead has removed himself from the GNR situation entirely , he doesnt/wont mention it , not in the press (which he really seldom does anyways) , not on his website (his own forum still wont allow GNR discussion) and not on his own media releases IE: the secret recipe DVD has no GNR footage or any mention , no matter how brief , that Buckethead was ever a member of GNR .. and the DVD covers everything else he ever did.

I think Buckethead will go forth as if he never was a part of GNR , I support him if he does but I still hope his parts remain and by some strange occurance he is coaxed back into the band.

I'm pretty sure if he was in the band and toured with them behind "democracy" and did the videos with them Buckethead would be a MAJOR star within months.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 09:16:37 PM

I think Buckethead will go forth as if he never was a part of GNR..


Yep, me too. 

I'm guessing he'll never acknowledge his presence in the band and move forward with his many other musical endeavors.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: badapple81 on July 18, 2005, 09:28:06 PM
Falcon, this is the first time we've had a hint that Buckethead might not be on CD. Very troubling comment, even though he gave a very simplistic response to the question. Its easy to read between the lines. If its true, Nov.29 can be thrown out the window.

Do you expect the music he recorded for the album to stay on the album? Most of us worry
that we will never hear what he recorded for the album.

Brain - So do I.


Sounds more to me like Brain doesn't really know. So don't take too much from that. Either way, it's been a while since BH left, who knows what work has been done.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 18, 2005, 09:42:08 PM
Honestly guys, I dont care what Brain has to say about Axl's Band... or his life.



          @;----,------,---------


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 09:43:43 PM
Honestly guys, I dont care what Brain has to say about Axl's Band... or his life.



          @;----,------,---------

your point being? This is a GNR board and Brain is the current drummer for GNR , think for a second that others probably are interested in Brains comments.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 09:51:33 PM
Saul, I agree. Buckethead could've been a huge star. He's the coolest character the music world has seen in a long time. He would have caught the world's eyes immediately. He's the coolest character the world has seen since..(drumroll please)..Slash.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 10:00:45 PM
He's the coolest character the music world has seen in a long time...

Not sure if "cool" is the right term for BH..

You definitely hit the "character" bit on the money though, he's carved a unique niche.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 18, 2005, 10:11:11 PM
Falcon, the first reaction to Buckethead was basically identical as people's first reactions to Slash. When you seen either one the first time, people were like, "WHO the fuck is this guy!" Slash with his long black hair, tophat, and cigarette dangling from his mouth, people wondering at what point does the hair catch on fire. He was a true original. Same can be said for Buckethead. You see that guy, mask and KFC bucket, and you cant stop watching in fascination. BH could've done so much for GNR. He's the only "hired gun" who could have taken some of the focus off of Axl. Big, big mistake in letting him leave. Another mistake with BH departure is when(if) CD is released, everyone will wonder if the album would have been even better if BH had been on it. This will forever tarnish the album's legacy. Just wait and see.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 18, 2005, 10:33:36 PM
I know I will always wonder "what would this song/solo had sounded like with buckets parts?" but for me , I'm a hardcore Bucketfan so thats to be expected from my type I guess.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2005, 10:40:41 PM
Another mistake with BH departure is when(if) CD is released, everyone will wonder if the album would have been even better if BH had been on it. This will forever tarnish the album's legacy. Just wait and see.

I think everyone is waaaaayyyy to strong a term. ?No doubt those who've followed every move (or lack thereof) will have some reservations (or not) less Big B but the run of the mill fan (who far outnumbers the diehards) won't care one way or the other. ?Hell, most fans have no clue who BH is and for that matter, have no clue who's in GNR from one day to the next.

This album has always been and will always be about Axl Rose, it's legacy will be decided based on his vision, not the players who helped him bring his vision to completion.

Just my 2 cents..


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: AxlFink on July 18, 2005, 11:24:30 PM
I hope axl had fortus and fink redo ALL Bucketheads parts.  I liked BH but he dicked Axl over so f him! 


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jabba2 on July 19, 2005, 12:46:05 AM

It seems to me that Buckethead has removed himself from the GNR situation entirely , he doesnt/wont mention it , not in the press (which he really seldom does anyways) , not on his website (his own forum still wont allow GNR discussion) and not on his own media releases IE: the secret recipe DVD has no GNR footage or any mention , no matter how brief , that Buckethead was ever a member of GNR .. and the DVD covers everything else he ever did.


After reading this, i dont believe anymore that Buckets staying on the album. It appears Bucket has no interest whatsoever with GNR now or later.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: killingvector on July 19, 2005, 12:51:25 AM
I don't think they are there either. It would explain the latest black hole of time. Would Finck be copying Bucket's parts or redoing them entirely? Would bucket still get writing credits?

Apparently Axl's voals are stilll incomplete if the band can be believed.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 01:07:52 AM
Falcon, EVERYONE will question how it could've been with him included. Why? Well, you have us, the hardcore, who will bring this issue up immediately. Alot of casual fans will see us discussing this, and wonder the same thing. The big reason, is of course, the MEDIA. Every new article will mention Buckethead. Every single review of CD is going to mention Buckethead in some way, at least commenting that he was in GNR for years and his work doesn't show up on CD. Whether you guys like it or not, Buckethead's name will forever be linked to Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: August 18th on July 19, 2005, 01:18:28 AM
I have a question: If Buckethead's parts are not going to be on CD, would this make his gag order null and void? This could be the reason we get no real info from anybody about whether he's on it or not. Buckethead could literally "spill the beans".

how could he literally spill the beans? ???

anyway, you people put too much into everything. just wait and see, it will be worth the wait and this band has already proven it's chemistry and axl seems happy with it. personally i've decided that i don't care whether buckethead's parts are on chinese democracy or not. i don't know whether axl wants to keep parts from the various musicians he's worked with over the years on the album or not, but having an album with mainly the current band playing on it would be cool.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: August 18th on July 19, 2005, 01:31:45 AM
besides, i'm eager to see what finck and fortus can do, especially finck. always liked that guy. 8)


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 09:29:13 AM
Whether you guys like it or not, Buckethead's name will forever be linked to Chinese Democracy.

Sure it will,, but as a footnote.  Never as a major part of mainstream GNR history by any means. 

Big B might get sentence or 2 in the numerous reviews that will surface when and if but there will be no columns/articles/stories contemplating "what might have been".  That is if his parts are indeed stripped...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 19, 2005, 09:40:13 AM
nobody cares of buckethead. The man has absolutely zero media attention potencial. he looks ridiculous, he never speaks, he is as cold as an iceberg, he has as much emotion as a serial killer. look, the guy has been in the music business for almost 20 years and he is still an unknown person.

Buckethead was a mistake. The man is not made to play in a rock band. now let's turn the page.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Jamie on July 19, 2005, 09:43:23 AM
I really don't think Buckethead's parts are staying on Chinese Democracy for the simple reason that, if they do, there will be three guitarists (except Axl if he decides to do major parts) playing on CD. With that in mind, how can two guitarists (Finck and Fortus) play three guitarists parts live, unless there is going to be a replacement for Buckethead eventually. So either Buckethead's parts are taken off of CD or GnR will have to replace him for the tour.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: August 18th on July 19, 2005, 09:47:43 AM
nobody cares of buckethead. The man has absolutely zero media attention potencial. he looks ridiculous, he never speaks, he is as cold as an iceberg, he has as much emotion as a serial killer. look, the guy has been in the music business for almost 20 years and he is still an unknown person.

Buckethead was a mistake. The man is not made to play in a rock band. now let's turn the page.

i agree, but he did draw some media attention. whether he was right for guns n' roses is another thing.

I really don't think Buckethead's parts are staying on Chinese Democracy for the simple reason that, if they do, there will be three guitarists (except Axl if he decides to do major parts) playing on CD. With that in mind, how can two guitarists (Finck and Fortus) play three guitarists parts live, unless there is going to be a replacement for Buckethead eventually. So either Buckethead's parts are taken off of CD or GnR will have to replace him for the tour.

i've thought about that myself, his parts will probably be taken off as they will be touring, and who wants an album with major contributions from a person who's used your generosity anyway. i hope finck and fortus handle the guitar parts themselves, unless they choose to find a third guitarist, which is anyone's guess if they will do. but it seems like it's not likely at the moment.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 19, 2005, 10:09:57 AM
I put in my 2 cents that they are not stripped. 
Why?  The timing and Axl's words in regard to BHs contribution.

This album has always been and will always be about Axl Rose, it's legacy will be decided based on his vision, not the players who helped him bring his vision to completion.

Just my 2 cents..

So it might be for you, diehards. Or for the media n for the industry.
But General Music fans aren't attached to guns n roses or Axl Rose in that way.
What they care most is the outcome. The albums and the shows.
By whom n how are just of subsidiary importance for them.
The same is true with the potential fans in the world.
Taken in the mass, they are the majority that move the mountain.

And Axl himself is saying this is not an Axl Rose project.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 19, 2005, 10:14:28 AM
Falcon, this is the first time we've had a hint that Buckethead might not be on CD. Very troubling comment, even though he gave a very simplistic response to the question. Its easy to read between the lines. If its true, Nov.29 can be thrown out the window.

Do you expect the music he recorded for the album to stay on the album? Most of us worry
that we will never hear what he recorded for the album.

Brain - So do I.


Sounds more to me like Brain doesn't really know. So don't take too much from that. Either way, it's been a while since BH left, who knows what work has been done.
Yes. at the same time
Sound more to me like it's Brain's way to say  "That would be telling, love" :peace:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 11:16:53 AM

....Or for the media n for the industry.

Right or wrong, those are the 2 main contributors who indeed shape the legacy, not "General music fans".?

And Axl himself is saying this is not an Axl Rose project.


I'm aware of that.

I was merely saying the musicians used to help see his musical vision through are not the one's who will be held responsible for the perception of the quality of the finished product.?

That praise or ridicule will fall squarely on the shoulders of Axl Rose.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 19, 2005, 11:49:28 AM

....Or for the media n for the industry.

Right or wrong, those are the 2 main contributors who indeed shape the legacy, not "General music fans". 

They might have been. Nowadays People don't dance for them as easy as they used to.
Also if you take a long view of it, they haven't been always calling the tunes.

And Axl himself is saying this is not an Axl Rose project.


I'm aware of that.

I was merely saying the musicians used to help see his musical vision through are not the one's who will be held responsible for the perception of the quality of the finished product. 

That praise or ridicule will fall squarely on the shoulders of Axl Rose.
True.
The Representative/ leader/ producer always bears the responsibility.
It's like a film and the director.




Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 19, 2005, 12:18:26 PM
nobody cares of buckethead. The man has absolutely zero media attention potencial. he looks ridiculous, he never speaks, he is as cold as an iceberg, he has as much emotion as a serial killer. look, the guy has been in the music business for almost 20 years and he is still an unknown person.

Buckethead was a mistake. The man is not made to play in a rock band. now let's turn the page.

Not true. Bucket can play rock n roll quite well. Just take his playing on "Nightrain" He totally improved that song. He took a song that was allready awesome and made it that much better with his playing. You just need to stay out of slash's ass  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 03:33:04 PM
nobody cares of buckethead. The man has absolutely zero media attention potencial. he looks ridiculous, he never speaks, he is as cold as an iceberg, he has as much emotion as a serial killer. look, the guy has been in the music business for almost 20 years and he is still an unknown person.

Buckethead was a mistake. The man is not made to play in a rock band. now let's turn the page.

Speak for yourself allready. Alot of people care about Bucket and thats pretty obvious seeing as to how many people still talk about him and wish he was back. If Axl didnt think Buckethead was "right" for GNR he wouldnt have tried so hard to get him to join or acted so disapointed when he left.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 19, 2005, 03:44:16 PM
Certainly there are people who care about Brain, buckethead and the other "new gnr" guys but honestly they are just an instrument for Axl, kinda the same situation with NIN's vocalist Trent Reznor. One (Buckethead) is already gone, its just a matter of time before the others leave the band or get fired.

By the way, The same brain said: GNR is a band as long as he gets paid, so what can "WE" real Guns N Roses fans, expect from that kinda of people? ... Nothing in my case...

I want you to save Gnr Slash... 

                             (6);----.-----,-------.----------


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 03:54:39 PM
Certainly there are people who care about Brain, buckethead and the other "new gnr" guys but honestly they are just an instrument for Axl, kinda the same situation with NIN's vocalist Trent Reznor.

Trent's situation is much more self reliant, he does not need anyone else to see his creative vision through in a studio setting...



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Mikkamakka on July 19, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
Certainly there are people who care about Brain, buckethead and the other "new gnr" guys but honestly they are just an instrument for Axl, kinda the same situation with NIN's vocalist Trent Reznor.

Trent's situation is much more self reliant, he does not need anyone else to see his creative vision through in a studio setting...



since he can write the music all by himself.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 04:09:52 PM
Certainly there are people who care about Brain, buckethead and the other "new gnr" guys but honestly they are just an instrument for Axl, kinda the same situation with NIN's vocalist Trent Reznor. One (Buckethead) is already gone, its just a matter of time before the others leave the band or get fired.

By the way, The same brain said: GNR is a band as long as he gets paid, so what can "WE" real Guns N Roses fans, expect from that kinda of people? ... Nothing in my case...

I want you to save Gnr Slash... 

                             (6);----.-----,-------.----------

Hey , wake up .. 1993 ended 12 years ago. Slash has a new band now , it's called Velvet Revolver. He seems very happy with that new band , let it go allready!

Theres a huige difference in the new GNR lineup then NIN .. in NIN Trent usually writes and records everything then brings "touring" members on board .. from every report we've heard thus far Axl has given each and every member a full and open chance to add to , change and record what they all feel best suits the song. Theres 8 members all adding their own voice to every track.



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 19, 2005, 04:11:18 PM
Carlos they might be just instruments for you. Not for Axl. Read his interviews.

And ever heard of joke?
How many times should he repeat the same one to make you smile?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 19, 2005, 04:17:29 PM
from every report we've heard thus far Axl has given each and every member a full and open chance to add to , change and record what they all feel best suits the song. Theres 8 members all adding their own voice to every track.

How do you know that man, Chinese democracy, hasnt been released so far... and I believe that Bucketheads parts in the album have been redone, just like izzy's in TSI, and,  I read that axl is the kind of person that doesnt allow "contributions" just like he did with Slash,  and finally we have to recognize that Axl is complete just with slash. Its just my opinion anyway.

                  (6);---.------,--------.--------


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 04:41:49 PM
from every report we've heard thus far Axl has given each and every member a full and open chance to add to , change and record what they all feel best suits the song. Theres 8 members all adding their own voice to every track.

How do you know that man, Chinese democracy, hasnt been released so far... and I believe that Bucketheads parts in the album have been redone, just like izzy's in TSI, and,  I read that axl is the kind of person that doesnt allow "contributions" just like he did with Slash,  and finally we have to recognize that Axl is complete just with slash. Its just my opinion anyway.

                  (6);---.------,--------.--------

How do I know that? havent you read the interviews with the band members? They've all been asked , if not forced , to put their own stapm into every song. This has been told over quite a few times by Tommy and Dizzy and Axl himself spoke of it during interviews while on the 2002 tour.

As for axl being "complete" only with slash ... lol , you are right .. that is just an opinion. Some may share that opinion , personally I do not.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 05:47:44 PM
I know you guys hate buckethead because he left, but his name is going to be brought up on a consistent basis. It will be interesting to see Axl's reaction to this when CD comes out. and IF CD sucks, Axl's gonna hear the word Buckethead more than he ever heard the word Slash. I'll say it again: Axl's making a HUGE mistake by deleting his parts. Axl should at least have Buckethead on a couple of songs so Buckethead's aura wont be hanging over CD.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: badapple81 on July 19, 2005, 06:12:39 PM
I know you guys hate buckethead because he left, but his name is going to be brought up on a consistent basis. It will be interesting to see Axl's reaction to this when CD comes out. and IF CD sucks, Axl's gonna hear the word Buckethead more than he ever heard the word Slash. I'll say it again: Axl's making a HUGE mistake by deleting his parts. Axl should at least have Buckethead on a couple of songs so Buckethead's aura wont be hanging over CD.

So we can compare the two BH-included songs to the rest?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 06:13:21 PM
I know you guys hate buckethead because he left, but his name is going to be brought up on a consistent basis. It will be interesting to see Axl's reaction to this when CD comes out. and IF CD sucks, Axl's gonna hear the word Buckethead more than he ever heard the word Slash. I'll say it again: Axl's making a HUGE mistake by deleting his parts. Axl should at least have Buckethead on a couple of songs so Buckethead's aura wont be hanging over CD.

we dont even know his parts have been erased?  ???


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 06:21:38 PM
... and IF CD sucks, Axl's gonna hear the word Buckethead more than he ever heard the word Slash.

I dig BH as much as anyone but there is no way, no how and no chance in hell Axl"s "gonna hear the word Buckethead more than he ever heard the word Slash." CD sucking nonwithstanding.



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 06:27:39 PM
Gunner, you're missing the point entirely. By not having Bucket on the album, Axl opens up a dangerous can of worms. Buckethead will be thrown in his face constantly. They'll say stuff like," He was in the band for years. Why isn't he on the album?, Did you erase his parts because he left and risk lowering the quality of your album over a grudge?, Its a good album Axl, but I can only imagine how great it would've been if Buckethead was on it." Axl will hear this shit alot. Every conversation with the media will eventually take this direction. And I can see the reviews now: "Catcher in the Rye is a brilliant song, but only a glimpse of brilliance. We can only imagine how haunting it would have been had we been allowed to hear Buckethead's contribution". This is going to happen. I just thought if Axl left his work on some songs he could avoid this 'Buckethead nightmare' scenario. If Axl doesn't take this advice, I can easily see him walking off from many interviews.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 19, 2005, 07:01:46 PM
Certainly there are people who care about Brain, buckethead and the other "new gnr" guys but honestly they are just an instrument for Axl, kinda the same situation with NIN's vocalist Trent Reznor. One (Buckethead) is already gone, its just a matter of time before the others leave the band or get fired.

By the way, The same brain said: GNR is a band as long as he gets paid, so what can "WE" real Guns N Roses fans, expect from that kinda of people? ... Nothing in my case...

I want you to save Gnr Slash...?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(6);----.-----,-------.----------

Hey , wake up .. 1993 ended 12 years ago. Slash has a new band now , it's called Velvet Revolver. He seems very happy with that new band , let it go allready!

Theres a huige difference in the new GNR lineup then NIN .. in NIN Trent usually writes and records everything then brings "touring" members on board .. from every report we've heard thus far Axl has given each and every member a full and open chance to add to , change and record what they all feel best suits the song. Theres 8 members all adding their own voice to every track.



I'm really looking forward hearing Pittman's, Reed's, Fortus', Stinson's, Finck's and Mantia's creativity on CD ! It's such a thrill seeing what Guns N'Roses has become ! :rofl:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 19, 2005, 07:20:54 PM
Gunner, you're missing the point entirely. By not having Bucket on the album, Axl opens up a dangerous can of worms. Buckethead will be thrown in his face constantly. They'll say stuff like," He was in the band for years. Why isn't he on the album?, Did you erase his parts because he left and risk lowering the quality of your album over a grudge?, Its a good album Axl, but I can only imagine how great it would've been if Buckethead was on it." Axl will hear this shit alot. Every conversation with the media will eventually take this direction. And I can see the reviews now: "Catcher in the Rye is a brilliant song, but only a glimpse of brilliance. We can only imagine how haunting it would have been had we been allowed to hear Buckethead's contribution". This is going to happen. I just thought if Axl left his work on some songs he could avoid this 'Buckethead nightmare' scenario. If Axl doesn't take this advice, I can easily see him walking off from many interviews.


All of this is your opinion. My opinion is the press care about Axl. ?People will be clamoring to speak to Axl. ?Where he's been, how long he's been working on the album, if he was abducted by aliens etc . ?The press are not gonna concern themselves about Buckethead. ?My opinion of you is dropping with every post you make. ? Your out there man.? Don't end your opinions with a "this is going to happen", really.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 07:35:45 PM
Thorazine, of course there's gonna be alot of those questions. He will be asked about his disappearance in every interview. He's probably already got a scripted response to those types of questions. Axl's life over the past 12 years will be the main issues. But there will be questions about buckethead. There is no doubt about that. Axl ensured this line of questioning with his 'taking it to the next level' with Buckethead's departure.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 19, 2005, 07:38:34 PM
Be sure that nobody in the press gives a shit about Buckethead. They hardly give a shit about Axl... :-\


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 07:46:04 PM
Pepe, they do give a shit. The only reason you never hear about Axl and GNR is because they dont do anything. When CD is released, there will be so many magazines and news shows begging Axl for interviews he will have to turn most of them down. Axl's the most intriguing person of our generation, the media is just waiting for 'Round 2' to begin.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 08:01:39 PM
Be sure that nobody in the press gives a shit about Buckethead. They hardly give a shit about Axl... :-\

you must never notice that when the media discuss the new lineup that always put extra emphasis on Buckethead?

And when MTV were doing the feature on GNR during the 2002 tour who did Loder interview on TV? Finck? Fortus? Nope , Buckethead.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 08:09:14 PM
Out of all the questions Axl will contend with if/when CD is released, an educated guess would say Big B inquiries will be near the bottom of the list, if on the list at all. ?Especially if BH doesn't appear on the final product. ?Obviously, that's subject to change if Buck's parts remain intact but if they are indeed stripped, forget about it.

Hell, as far as GNR goes, Paul Huge has played a more significant role in GNR history than BH has to date...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 08:13:14 PM
Wasnt Buckethead pretty much the sole lead guitar player for more then a year while Finck was back with NIN?  ???


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Warren on July 19, 2005, 08:15:47 PM
Out of all the questions Axl will contend with if/when CD is released, an educated guess would say Big B inquiries will be near the bottom of the list, if on the list at all. ?Especially if BH doesn't appear on the final product. ?Obviously, that's subject to change if Buck's parts remain intact but if they are indeed stripped, forget about it.

Hell, as far as GNR goes, Paul Huge has played a more significant role in GNR history than BH has to date...

I agree. Buckethead has already been forgotten by the media as a nugnr member.

On the contrary, Slash is still in everybody's minds... And for a long time ! ;)


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 08:19:46 PM

I agree. Buckethead has already been forgotten by the media as a nugnr member.

On the contrary, Slash is still in everybody's minds... And for a long time ! ;)

You do realize that Slash is in a "big name" band now with other "big name" musicians right?

The press didnt really heap lots of praise on slash when he was doing his snakepit thing.  ::)

Oh , btw .. which member of the "nugnr" are the media actually talking about? Fortus? Finck?  .. I'll tell you .. nobody.  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 19, 2005, 08:21:46 PM
Wasnt Buckethead pretty much the sole lead guitar player for more then a year while Finck was back with NIN?  ???

Didn't bucket join in 2000?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 08:24:08 PM
Wasnt Buckethead pretty much the sole lead guitar player for more then a year while Finck was back with NIN?  ???

Didn't bucket join in 2000?

If memory serves , latter part of 99.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 08:27:02 PM
Saul, you make some very good points. 99.9% of the people in the forums will be shocked when the shadow of Buckethead lays an eclipse over CD. Buckethead is usually mentioned in magazines when the name GNR comes up. He is/was the most recognizable member of GNR besides Axl. People dont realize the magnitude of his departure. Yeah, CD is all on Axl's shoulders. Its gonna be a heavy cross to bare. Axl could have used a helping hand. To be honest, I'm not Buckethead's biggest fan, but I do realize the major impact of his departure.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 19, 2005, 08:47:07 PM
Saul, you make some very good points. 99.9% of the people in the forums will be shocked when the shadow of Buckethead lays an eclipse over CD. Buckethead is usually mentioned in magazines when the name GNR comes up. He is/was the most recognizable member of GNR besides Axl. People dont realize the magnitude of his departure. Yeah, CD is all on Axl's shoulders. Its gonna be a heavy cross to bare. Axl could have used a helping hand. To be honest, I'm not Buckethead's biggest fan, but I do realize the major impact of his departure.

I just see it like this ... most of what you see on TV or in the mag's these days is "over the top" .. either rappers with tons of "bling" , or pop stars wearing next to nothing ... just alot of over the top stuff. Alot of "eye candy" and attention grabbing gimmicks , ya know?

IMHO Buckethead brough (pardon the pun) buckets of "eye candy" to GNR. Finck and Fortus just seem awful bland compared to Bucket.

Imagine new gnr videos ... picture some scene where axl is in the shot next to , say fortus or finck .. now picture the same shot with axl alongside Bucket. I just think the Bucket shots would be much more interesting , attention grabbing and something that people would be talking about much more the next day.

My opinion.  :peace:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 08:55:38 PM
Saul, I totally agree with that. GNR needed something "cool" to bring to this new generation. Buckethead provided that essence of cool. I remember in a thread about possible new GNR videos, someone mentioned a cool idea about Buckethead doing a solo on top of the Great Wall of China. That will not have the same impact with a different member doing it. Also imagine CD winning 'album of the year'. Axl walking to the stage with Robin, Tommy, or Richard will not have the same impact as it would if he walked to the stage with Bucket. When the final chapter of GNR is written, Buckethead's departure will be mentioned.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 19, 2005, 08:57:28 PM
Wasnt Buckethead pretty much the sole lead guitar player for more then a year while Finck was back with NIN?  ???

Didn't bucket join in 2000?

If memory serves , latter part of 99.

As of November 1999 there was no replacement for Robin and Axl wasn't even mentioning Bucket at that point. Im pretty sure Bucket join early 2000, not too long before Robin came back to guns.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 19, 2005, 09:02:36 PM
I think chineseblues is right. If Buckethead was there, why would they need Dave Navarro to do Oh My God? But I'm not sure. So much time goes by with nothing, I'm starting to forget alot of GNR stuff. LOL!


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 19, 2005, 09:28:45 PM
GNR needed something "cool" to bring to this new generation. Buckethead provided that essence of cool.

Again, not sure if "cool" is the right word for BH's persona.

Not taking away from his talents in any way, but his schtick added more novelty to the band than cool.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: providman on July 19, 2005, 09:52:53 PM
Be sure that nobody in the press gives a shit about Buckethead. They hardly give a shit about Axl... :-\

you must never notice that when the media discuss the new lineup that always put extra emphasis on Buckethead?

And when MTV were doing the feature on GNR during the 2002 tour who did Loder interview on TV? Finck? Fortus? Nope , Buckethead.

Dude get real. MTV does interviews & features & packages on about a zillion people a year. Just because BH was one of them 3 YEARS AGO doesn't mean shit. Believe it. The original poster was right, hardly anyone cares about Axl anymore, & nobody gives 2 shits about BH, save for his fan base. And that's not meant as a knock on BH. It is what it is. It's like saying Nels Cline really gets emphasized a lot in the media because I saw a few interviews with him? earlier this year on MTV



Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 19, 2005, 10:59:06 PM
I still think BHs parts will be on CD


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jimmythegent on July 20, 2005, 12:16:27 AM
It certainly is disheartening reading these types of interviews. Being in Guns should be the pinnacle of these guys careers, the main focus of their musical existance. Instead, they talk about it in a very ho-hum fashion.
Is this what Guns has come to? There was a time when the very name itself had respect, honour and any guitarist, drummer etc.. it would a dream to be associated with that name
I don't blame the musicians BTW, it is a natural reaction to the situation at hand


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 20, 2005, 12:58:19 AM
Jimmy, great point. I'm also getting sick of the 'we're doing it for the money' comments. I dont give a fuck if its a joke or not. They shouldn't even be joking about it, there's nothing funny about the situation. GNR is fast becoming a satire of a rock band, and these "hired guns" are helping it become that. If the comments they say were made in GNR 12 or 13 years ago, Axl would have fired the person who said it. But he lets these goons say it on a continuous basis. Pretty sad.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Eazy E on July 20, 2005, 01:20:33 AM
Jimmy, great point. I'm also getting sick of the 'we're doing it for the money' comments. I dont give a fuck if its a joke or not. They shouldn't even be joking about it, there's nothing funny about the situation. GNR is fast becoming a satire of a rock band, and these "hired guns" are helping it become that. If the comments they say were made in GNR 12 or 13 years ago, Axl would have fired the person who said it. But he lets these goons say it on a continuous basis. Pretty sad.

I'd like to compliment Falcon for talking so much sense in a thread filled with stuff like this.

Honestly jameslofton, look at what you just wrote. "Axl would have FIRED the person"... So you're saying Axl hires people? and then delivers them paycheques?  If that's the case, then maybe Brain wasn't joking in the interview (and if this WAS the case, the fact that Axl turned GN'R into a business is what's "Pretty sad", not the fact that band members are making jokes).

So either these "goons" are in it purely for the money, or they are serious about the band and like to take the piss out of people who think they are only in it for the money... and we have you bitching either way.

I prefer Brain's sarcastic "I'm in it for the money" replies than Tommy's "It's a hair's breadth from being released".


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jimmythegent on July 20, 2005, 01:38:22 AM
Jimmy, great point. I'm also getting sick of the 'we're doing it for the money' comments. I dont give a fuck if its a joke or not. They shouldn't even be joking about it, there's nothing funny about the situation. GNR is fast becoming a satire of a rock band, and these "hired guns" are helping it become that. If the comments they say were made in GNR 12 or 13 years ago, Axl would have fired the person who said it. But he lets these goons say it on a continuous basis. Pretty sad.

I'd like to compliment Falcon for talking so much sense in a thread filled with stuff like this.

Honestly jameslofton, look at what you just wrote. "Axl would have FIRED the person"... So you're saying Axl hires people? and then delivers them paycheques?? If that's the case, then maybe Brain wasn't joking in the interview (and if this WAS the case, the fact that Axl turned GN'R into a business is what's "Pretty sad", not the fact that band members are making jokes).

So either these "goons" are in it purely for the money, or they are serious about the band and like to take the piss out of people who think they are only in it for the money... and we have you bitching either way.

I prefer Brain's sarcastic "I'm in it for the money" replies than Tommy's "It's a hair's breadth from being released".

it's absolutley the case that they are hired employees and rightfully as professionals are motivated by earning a living

I did make reference in my point that I dont blame them

I guess my point was, rather nostalgically I remember a time when Guns were so huge and legendary that if youi were a member that came in (say Gilby, Matt or Dizzy) you could sense it was an awe inspiring thing for them and rightfully so....soo... I just dont sense that from these new guys, being in Guns N' Roses man, that should be the ultimate but these guys are more focused on their other projects which is totally understandable given the way this 'project' has been run by Axl

I guess i'm just pining for that time when then name Guns N' Roses evoked a reaction other than ridicule or indifference


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Mikkamakka on July 20, 2005, 02:19:03 AM
Wasnt Buckethead pretty much the sole lead guitar player for more then a year while Finck was back with NIN?? ???

Didn't bucket join in 2000?

If memory serves , latter part of 99.

As of November 1999 there was no replacement for Robin and Axl wasn't even mentioning Bucket at that point. Im pretty sure Bucket join early 2000, not too long before Robin came back to guns.

He joined during the spring of 2000. 'Freese out, Buckethead in', how MTV reported it.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Eazy E on July 20, 2005, 02:55:44 AM
I guess i'm just pining for that time when then name Guns N' Roses evoked a reaction other than ridicule or indifference

I understand, the problem isn't Brain's sarcastic comments though... It's that there is no new album & tour.  I'm sure these guys are passionate about being in GN'R (whether they are 'hired guns' or not), but it's hard to show that when you're wrapped up in side projects waiting for the green light on the album.  Plus they have their gag orders and get asked GN'R questions they just can't answer...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 20, 2005, 06:16:49 AM
I'm still positive about the guy.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Lineker10 on July 20, 2005, 06:34:07 AM
I think basically being a member of Guins has gone from being a life to simply being a job - earn some extra cash and recognition while your doing your solo projects. I dont think any of the new members would be massivly gutted if they got fired or left Guns - apart from the lack of money - thats the differance nowerdays i feel.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 20, 2005, 08:07:05 AM
I think basically being a member of Guns has gone from being a life to simply being a job
I couldn't have said it better. It's just a business. With the old band, it was something real. Guns n' Roses was their life. It was their own baby. Now it's just a "project" among others.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 20, 2005, 10:45:34 AM
Now that I think about it , bucket joined xmas 1999. Before the new year (2000) rang in. Axl had him at his house and gave him a leatherface doll , a rare one and in buckets own words "in the head , joined that moment."


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: younggunner on July 20, 2005, 11:19:14 AM
If Buckets contributions took the songs or a song to another level Axl should leave it.

Look at the added solo to CD. Incredible. Especially the versions he did at London and Boston. Simply amazing as is the IRS solo.

Hopefully someway, somehow, in the whacky land of GNR, bucket will end up back with the band. As mentioned in this thread and as I have previously mentioned when he left...Buckets "freakiness" is what makes him an important part of this band. He will draw peopel in on his looks alone. Its that What the Fuck type thing. Then he keeps them witht he music. He was the perfect player for the new lineup. He was their new version of Slash.

I disagree with others in saying that Finck or Fortus cant get the job done. Of course they dont have the appeal like Bucket would have....but that doesnt mean they are weak. But time will tell...hopefully BIg B comes back though.
He was an explosive player who put this band on anothe rlevel.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: GNROSAS on July 20, 2005, 11:26:01 AM
Quote
With the old band, it was something real. Guns n' Roses was their life. It was their own baby. Now it's just a "project" among others.


Yep It was their life and their own baby and izzy,slash,duff choosed to abandon their life and baby and
left it only to Axl....and now only one holds this baby...the guy who believed in it more than anyone from day one....And he can have whatever mother/granny he believes it is the best for the baby.....
He now tries to keep the fuckin baby alive and strong......Hope the motherfucker eventually succeeds in that.....


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 20, 2005, 11:47:38 AM
Quote
With the old band, it was something real. Guns n' Roses was their life. It was their own baby. Now it's just a "project" among others.


Yep It was their life and their own baby and izzy,slash,duff choosed to abandon their life and baby and
left it only to Axl....and now only one holds this baby...the guy who believed in it more than anyone from day one....And he can have whatever mother/granny he believes it is the best for the baby.....
He now tries to keep the fuckin baby alive and strong......Hope the motherfucker eventually succeeds in that.....
I don't believe the Axl's theory. I don't believe the guy is a saint and that slash, duff and izzy are "evils". I don't believe neither Axl is the only one responsible of the splitt. For me, it's all of that. It's a whole thing. And I still believe the success and the money drove all of them crazy. Maybe if Axl was a little bit less crazy, first the original band would have still been together, second Chinese Democracy would have been recorded yet, third the new band wouldn't have been about to break-up (i feel it).

I've never been neither a yes-man pro axl, neither a pro-slash/duff/izzy "Axl's the devil".

For me, it's 50/50. I don't like when matt said "what's the piano?" and when axl though "ok, let's turn industrial". Both are wrong. I like to be fair and objective. I love GN'R, this is my favourite band of all time, but that's not because Axl got the name that he got the fans...at least, not me.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 20, 2005, 12:01:32 PM
Some people told me,  the NEW GNR is excellent and they might developed excellent songs with Axl, that is right, they are excellent musicians, that is why Axl rose has chosen them to be part of GNR, but "hey" let's be honest those guys dont love GNR, dont feel the music, like the old guys, just take Brain as an example -- he said GNR is a band as long as he gets paid!!!! --   what can "I" a real GNR fan expect from that kind of guys? as i said before, NOTHING....  And that is why i think its only Axl's project and his chosen musicians.

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Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 20, 2005, 12:27:56 PM
Some people told me,  the NEW GNR is excellent and they might developed excellent songs with Axl, that is right, they are excellent musicians, that is why Axl rose has chosen them to be part of GNR, but "hey" let's be honest those guys dont love GNR, dont feel the music, like the old guys, just take Brain as an example -- he said GNR is a band as long as he gets paid!!!! --   what can "I" a real GNR fan expect from that kind of guys? as i said before, NOTHING....  And that is why i think its only Axl's project and his chosen musicians.

      @;---,-----.--------

Your wrong. The guys in the band now do love being in GNR. They do love the music they made/are making. They do care about the fans.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 20, 2005, 12:29:38 PM
yes right, that is why Brain said those statements...

           @;-,-----,------.----


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 20, 2005, 12:32:59 PM
yes right, that is why Brain said those statements...

           @;-,-----,------.----

It was a joke, how thick can some people be  ::)


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: coolman78SLASH on July 20, 2005, 12:47:42 PM
I dont know, I feel some of this comments, they give me a bad vibe, I'm not sure why, but like some of you said, they dont seem to have their hearts in 100% like the old band, but I dont blame them, when things started to become like we have seen the last 10 years or so, Slash,Duff and Matt's hearts dident belong 100% to GnR anymore either, no albums in sight, no tour, no nothing, its easy to become a little distant under such conditions


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 20, 2005, 12:51:06 PM
No, no corblemy the former members wouldn't even think of making money out of their holy baby.

''The poverty is what kept us together, that was how we became Guns N Roses. Once that changed.??.Guns N Roses was like the old Stones or whatever, Not necessarily the friendliest bunch of guys.''
Axl Speaks Rolling Stone, January 2000

Judging from his sarcasm, Brain is a kind who can't act like a yesman.
Why suddenly some people want the band members to be a bunch of blind worshippers of the band is beyond me.
They love the music they made together and the band they made the music together.  That's all what matters to me.

Quote
....... the old guys,..
Blah, blah, and blah
Your opinion is only this one isnay?
All other fuss you're making about this topic are led by this nostalgia if not the die-hard reunionism.
Refute me if you can.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 20, 2005, 02:32:55 PM
Wow! I can't believe how so many still thinks Brain is saying those things about money for real. English is not even my 1st language and, even like that, I could understand he is joking. Jeez...  :no:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 20, 2005, 02:44:31 PM
I dont know, I feel some of this comments, they give me a bad vibe, I'm not sure why, but like some of you said, they dont seem to have their hearts in 100% like the old band, but I dont blame them, when things started to become like we have seen the last 10 years or so, Slash,Duff and Matt's hearts dident belong 100% to GnR anymore either, no albums in sight, no tour, no nothing, its easy to become a little distant under such conditions

I have to agree with this post.  How can the new bands hearts really be in it, when they are barely working on it and so distand from it.   I think the only real way to have your heart in the band is to nurture it, be together with the band, jam, finish projects together, tour, etc.    They haven't been together for a couple years.  Who knows how they will even feel when they finely do get back together, if that happens.  I hope Axl doesn't keep these guys apart from him and from each other too much longer, we really don't know what the effects might be.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 20, 2005, 03:54:50 PM


I have to agree with this post.  How can the new bands hearts really be in it, when they are barely working on it and so distand from it.   I think the only real way to have your heart in the band is to nurture it, be together with the band, jam, finish projects together, tour, etc.    They haven't been together for a couple years.  Who knows how they will even feel when they finely do get back together, if that happens.  I hope Axl doesn't keep these guys apart from him and from each other too much longer, we really don't know what the effects might be.

Richard has said that he and finck trade off between leads and rhythm so I'm guessing some of them get together and jam.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 20, 2005, 04:28:41 PM
Richard helped Tommy in Village Gorilla Head. Also, they're always being special guests in each other side projects.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 20, 2005, 04:49:09 PM
Saul and Voodoo, that is cool that they do that but they need to gel together as GNR and nurture GNR as a band and get together with Axl.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 20, 2005, 05:20:26 PM
Well this way they can get fresh ideas from all over the place and won't grow tired of their married life, no their band life. ;D

On the other hands I'm sick and tired of hearing that slur of "hired" tied to "guns" >:(
Everybody knows the pet clich? of reunionists n naysayers.
They're in the industry, in the media and maybe even in the crews of whatever, everywhere the band goes, I guess.

Axl
"Umm, well the biggest challenge is that. In working with these people. You know, I developed a kinda one on one individual relationships, and little.. Little groups in putting this thing together rather... I mean this isn't a band of a bunch of guys who met at a bar, or found each other through, you know, ads in the paper or anything.
It's been, you know, I carefully looked for these individual people and their personalities and how exciting each one of them is and what they bring to this project. So then, the challenge was, you know, working with all those different personalities and bringing those personalities together. Especially personalities that, ahh you know, when they have to learn how to play other people's material, then that's difficult as well.......................................

With the guys, I mean. I do have, a really positive relationship with the individual members and each one of them ahh, you know excites me with what they bring to it creatively or just as a person and how each one of them works really hard, because I think anyone that ahh watches this project at all, also sees, the abuse that this project goes through. And these guys shoulder that really, really well and... And they don?t have a problem dealing with it, and I have to, you know, just respect the hell out of that with these guys."
               -Axl interview KISW Seattle KISW Seattle, November 8th 2002


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: killingvector on July 20, 2005, 05:22:01 PM
I don't think anyone from the new band is doing much related to GnR even if they are noodling around.  Everything is sitting on axl's shoulders now.

I read through 7 pages of this thread and I still don't get why so many are arguing. There are things knowable and unknowable. Whether BH will return or have his GnR contributions erased from existance are two of those unknowable things. Wait and see.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 20, 2005, 05:32:18 PM
Well this way they can get fresh ideas from all over the place and won't grow tired of their married life, no their band life. ;D

On the other hands I'm sick and tired of hearing that slur of "hired" tied to "guns" >:(
Everybody knows the pet clich? of reunionists n naysayers.
They're in the industry, in the media and maybe even in the crews of whatever, everywhere the band goes, I guess.

Axl
"Umm, well the biggest challenge is that. In working with these people. You know, I developed a kinda one on one individual relationships, and little.. Little groups in putting this thing together rather... I mean this isn't a band of a bunch of guys who met at a bar, or found each other through, you know, ads in the paper or anything.
It's been, you know, I carefully looked for these individual people and their personalities and how exciting each one of them is and what they bring to this project. So then, the challenge was, you know, working with all those different personalities and bringing those personalities together. Especially personalities that, ahh you know, when they have to learn how to play other people's material, then that's difficult as well.......................................

With the guys, I mean. I do have, a really positive relationship with the individual members and each one of them ahh, you know excites me with what they bring to it creatively or just as a person and how each one of them works really hard, because I think anyone that ahh watches this project at all, also sees, the abuse that this project goes through. And these guys shoulder that really, really well and... And they don?t have a problem dealing with it, and I have to, you know, just respect the hell out of that with these guys."
               -Axl interview KISW Seattle KISW Seattle, November 8th 2002


This interveiw is from 2002 when they were working together.   Since then, they haven't been together as far as we know.  I believe Axl has the utmost repect for them and has developed good relationships with them and them with each other.  But all relationships to work, need interaction and need to be cultivated to be successfull.    I agree the band members get alot of abuse but that's because they are going under the name GNR and they were doing all the covers and I don't feel that they should get abused as they are really good musicians.  But that is the way it went then hopefully it won't be the same when they return cause they will be doing new material and less covers hopefully.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 20, 2005, 06:54:21 PM
I think the first line of my post answers you. DTJ.  ;D

I gonna post a hell of quotes in regard to this issue.

I prefer Brain's sarcastic "I'm in it for the money" replies than Tommy's "It's a hair's breadth from being released".

Easy E, whose shoulders do you like the best?

Tommys (straight)

"I can tell you that when Chinese Democracy comes out?we'll be touring behind it, and I'll be fucking first in line to get back on board?? Whether or not people buy it is the fucking $60 million question, but all I know is that we're all proud of it and had a good time doing it?and also some troubling times doing it?but it was fun as shit. People always feel compelled to say to me, 'Dude, are you stoked to get a paycheck?' If it were about that, I'd be an asshole. It's never been about just getting a paycheck. I put a lot of work and heart and soul into it just like everyone else and got a great deal out of it??.. To any naysayer out there, I say, 'Fuck off.' I'm totally into it, and I'm definitely happy to be involved with Guns N' Roses."

"I've come across a lot of people who give me, 'Dude, what are you thinking?' Then I have to explain it. At this point, I'm kind of sick of explaining it and just feel like going, 'Fuck off.' [Laughs] These are my people, I have a fucking great time with them."  - Sep (?)2004

Brains #1 (twisted/shrug)

Q) When GN'R get back together later this year, are you going to miss all your solo projects?
"No because I got to get paid whether its truthfully or untruthfully" - Brain Answers Fans Questions -  7 June 2005,

Brains #2 (round)

"If GNR start up again, I?m in. I love doing it and, as crazy as it is, I really miss being all around that.
I love being that rock guy when you're in a band, and it?s about you and your music.
Being a hired gun is a different feeling ? it's not your songs, and it's all about the artist you're working for, which is cool.
But with Guns we were doing songs that I was a part of creating. And if the new album ever comes out, there are songs on there that I've had a hand in writing." -  Dec 04

Merck (hmm square?)

"W, Axl Rose is not interested in fame, money, popularity or what the New York Times or any other paper for that matter might think of him. His only interest is making the best album he is capable of so that it can have a positive affect in 2005 on people who are enthusiasts of music and interested in Guns N' Roses. His artistic integrity is such that he has chosen to do so without compromise at great personal sacrifice, which makes him a soft target for the sort of rubbish you have chosen to print. I believe he will have the last laugh. "    -  in defence of Axl march 2005

I can quote more and more.

I believe all the guys in Chinese Democratic GN'R and we, the fans will have the last laugh. : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Christos AG on July 20, 2005, 07:16:50 PM
Not true. Bucket can play rock n roll quite well. Just take his playing on "Nightrain" He totally improved that song. He took a song that was allready awesome and made it that much better with his playing. You just need to stay out of slash's ass? : ok:

You can't improve something that's perfect in every way.

You can add your own sound to it. You can make it sound differently. But you just can't improve Slash's solos... That's as good as it gets.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 20, 2005, 07:56:33 PM
Not true. Bucket can play rock n roll quite well. Just take his playing on "Nightrain" He totally improved that song. He took a song that was allready awesome and made it that much better with his playing. You just need to stay out of slash's ass  : ok:

You can't improve something that's perfect in every way.

You can add your own sound to it. You can make it sound differently. But you just can't improve Slash's solos... That's as good as it gets.

I dunno man, there are alot of people who think that buckets playing on Nightrain has made the song that much better,   kinda took it to a whole nother level, ya know?


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 20, 2005, 08:10:26 PM
I thought this thread was about Brain's interview.

    (6);---.---,------.-.----


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 20, 2005, 08:19:40 PM
Not true. Bucket can play rock n roll quite well. Just take his playing on "Nightrain" He totally improved that song. He took a song that was allready awesome and made it that much better with his playing. You just need to stay out of slash's ass  : ok:

You can't improve something that's perfect in every way.

You can add your own sound to it. You can make it sound differently. But you just can't improve Slash's solos... That's as good as it gets.

I think when you make a statement like that you should add an IMHO to it. Slashes solo's are perfection? You obviously feel they are while others may not right? This is certainly NOT a slag at you , as I understand where you are coming from. But at the same time you have to understand that some of us feel that changes Bucket made to the solo actually made it better.

I go along with the mass amount of fans who think Bucket actually took Nightrain and really added to it and made it better , but again , thats just my opinion.  :peace:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Butch Français on July 20, 2005, 10:59:50 PM
I thought this thread was about Brain's interview.

? ? (6);---.---,------.-.----

yeah, it used to be. ;D


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: killingvector on July 20, 2005, 11:07:47 PM
I thought Bucket moved that Nightrain outro to a whole different level as well. Every solo he played on was an absolute joy to listen to.

Finck on the other hand..... ::)


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Christos AG on July 21, 2005, 02:07:49 AM


I go along with the mass amount of fans who think Bucket actually took Nightrain and really added to it and made it better , but again , thats just my opinion.? :peace:

MASS AMOUNT?

Do you know how many people in total saw the new GNR in 2002?

Compare it to how many records AFD has sold.

Oh, and I understand that you're a huge fan of Buckethead, but Slash has been on the cover of every magazine in the world. There's probably a reason for that...

That reason is the guy's ability to grap a guitar and make it cry until it says STOP... And people still respond to that. It's called VR.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 21, 2005, 02:51:11 AM
Hum... It's still your opinion. Many people HERE still thinks Bucket improved Nightrain. There's no need to take the majority of the fan base to say that.

If Chinese Democracy was released in 2002, Buckethead would be in every magazine too. There's probably a reason for that too... 


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Christos AG on July 21, 2005, 02:55:04 AM
Hum... It's still your opinion. Many people HERE still thinks Bucket improved Nightrain. There's no need to take the majority of the fan base to say that.

If Chinese Democracy was released in 2002, Buckethead would be in every magazine too. There's probably a reason for that too...?

Sure it's still my opinion, but many people HERE don't make the "mass amount of fans"...

And you don't build a career with IF's...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Lineker10 on July 21, 2005, 07:31:11 AM
The fact is this - Slash wrote Nightrain Bucket didnt. Its easy to say he improved it - but the fact is he couldnt/wouldnt of wrote that song at all in the first place. Slash has wrote some of the most memorable and sucessfull hard rock songs/ riffs/ solos the world has ever known. He was a main member in one of the biggest rock bands the world has ever known. Buckethead on the other hand has acheived practically zero success compared to Slash. And dont give me aload of crap about success not meaning anything - cos lets face it anyone can record something and then go on about how brilliant it is but if the rock n roll fans dont buy it then it means bugger all to anyone. The sign of a good song is that millions of rock n roll fans around the world go buy it, go buy the album and go to the shows - regardless of how big the band is at the time, and continue to buy/enjoy the song years later, Guns with Slash and Izzy acheived that, VR with Slash acheived that - Bucket hasnt.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 21, 2005, 07:57:14 AM
the only ones who idolize buckethead are some crazy psychos at newgnr.com who spit on slash and the old band all the time. that's a shame to have so much disrespect toward the old band and Slash. I'm sure even Axl hasn't so much disrespect inside him toward Slash than those guys.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: GNROSAS on July 21, 2005, 08:22:42 AM
the only ones who idolize buckethead are some crazy psychos at newgnr.com who spit on slash and the old band all the time. that's a shame to have so much disrespect fo the old band.

For me the old band desrespected themselves and their career when they decided to leave GNR....


And by the way i never really paid so much attention to the last nightrain solo when Slash played it. Even on AFD... When i heard a SBD bootleg of Buckethead playing it my jaw dropped and made me realize what a great solo there is on nightrain....Definately Big B brought it to another level and i prefer the way he plays it....

And Yes Someone can improve an original Song and make it sound better for a big amount of people...Take KOHD or LALD....by Gnr
The same I believe with nightrain solo....


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Falcon on July 21, 2005, 09:35:22 AM
Quote from: GNROSAS link=topic=21640.msg372161#msg372161

For me the old band desrespected themselves and their career when they decided to leave GNR....

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Opposite for me, I think they showed the ultimate respect by getting the hell out while the legacy was still somewhat in tact.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: chineseblues on July 21, 2005, 09:39:45 AM
The fact is this - Slash wrote Nightrain Bucket didnt. Its easy to say he improved it - but the fact is he couldnt/wouldnt of wrote that song at all in the first place. Slash has wrote some of the most memorable and sucessfull hard rock songs/ riffs/ solos the world has ever known. He was a main member in one of the biggest rock bands the world has ever known. Buckethead on the other hand has acheived practically zero success compared to Slash. And dont give me aload of crap about success not meaning anything - cos lets face it anyone can record something and then go on about how brilliant it is but if the rock n roll fans dont buy it then it means bugger all to anyone. The sign of a good song is that millions of rock n roll fans around the world go buy it, go buy the album and go to the shows - regardless of how big the band is at the time, and continue to buy/enjoy the song years later, Guns with Slash and Izzy acheived that, VR with Slash acheived that - Bucket hasnt.

Slash wasn't the main member. The main member(s) was Axl and Izzy, they wrote most of the songs.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Lineker10 on July 21, 2005, 09:44:02 AM
The fact is this - Slash wrote Nightrain Bucket didnt. Its easy to say he improved it - but the fact is he couldnt/wouldnt of wrote that song at all in the first place. Slash has wrote some of the most memorable and sucessfull hard rock songs/ riffs/ solos the world has ever known. He was a main member in one of the biggest rock bands the world has ever known. Buckethead on the other hand has acheived practically zero success compared to Slash. And dont give me aload of crap about success not meaning anything - cos lets face it anyone can record something and then go on about how brilliant it is but if the rock n roll fans dont buy it then it means bugger all to anyone. The sign of a good song is that millions of rock n roll fans around the world go buy it, go buy the album and go to the shows - regardless of how big the band is at the time, and continue to buy/enjoy the song years later, Guns with Slash and Izzy acheived that, VR with Slash acheived that - Bucket hasnt.

Slash wasn't the main member. The main member(s) was Axl and Izzy, they wrote most of the songs.

Slash wrote a ton of the music within Gn'R - mabye not loads of the lyrics - but tons of the music and most if not all of the solos.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: nesquick on July 21, 2005, 09:47:15 AM
also in a mediatic ilmpact, slash was as big as axl.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 21, 2005, 09:59:07 AM
LOL!

Well I'm not knocking slash at all , he is and always will be one of my top 5 favorite guitar players. I've only been listening to him since 1987.

I just feel , alongside the mass amount of fans within the gnr "community" (I shoulda clarified that in my original responce) that Bucket totally added to the Nightrain solo and brought it too another level.

Slash is famous for his work in GNR , nothing less , nothing more .. thats how he made his name. Outside of the GNR community there wasnt a plethora of people clamoring to rush out and buy snakepit albums , in fact Slashes snakepit probably sold as much as Bucketheads independantly released solo albums.

VR , by all logic , shoulda been a huge success too , seeing how it is 3/5ths GNR and the lead singer of Velvet Revolver.

You can go on and on about how Bucket is fairly unknown and I totally agree with that , But had he stayed with GNR when and if Democracy came out and toured and did the videos it wouldnt have been long before he too woulda "been on all the covers" ..  : ok:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Christos AG on July 21, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
Well, I'm sorry but 2-3.000 15-year old internet users and forum members still don't qualify as the mass amount of fans for me.

People who disrespect Slash and his input in GN'R's history simply don't have a clue about GNR.

I accept that Buckethead is a great guitar player but what he did with Nightrain was change the solo and adapt it to his style of playing. That's a whole different thing than making a solo sound better.

Slash gave birth to that solo, people still love that song cause of Slash, not cause of Buckethead.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Nytunz on July 21, 2005, 02:27:35 PM
Well, I'm sorry but 2-3.000 15-year old internet users and forum members still don't qualify as the mass amount of fans for me.

People who disrespect Slash and his input in GN'R's history simply don't have a clue about GNR.

I accept that Buckethead is a great guitar player but what he did with Nightrain was change the solo and adapt it to his style of playing. That's a whole different thing than making a solo sound better.

Slash gave birth to that solo, people still love that song cause of Slash, not cause of Buckethead.

Maybe Buckethead improved the solo. Maybe he made it worse, its up to each of us to decide! But Without Axl and Izzy there wouldent be any Nightrain song at all, and the solo would never been made! Slash deserves alot of respect and credit, and so does everyone of the Original members. When talking about Brain, Bucket, Tommy, Robin and Finck and Chris. I will also give them alot of respect and credits for even have the guts to change and play the old GNR song in theys own way! And i think they all do a great job! The point isnt that it should sound just like the original!


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 21, 2005, 02:38:42 PM
People who disrespect Slash and his input in GN'R's history simply don't have a clue about GNR.

I accept that Buckethead is a great guitar player but what he did with Nightrain was change the solo and adapt it to his style of playing. That's a whole different thing than making a solo sound better.

Slash gave birth to that solo, people still love that song cause of Slash, not cause of Buckethead.
Well, so what? Bob Dylan made All Along The Watchtower... But Hendrix improved the song so much that even Dylan himself said the song was better on Jimi's version.

Of course Slash wouldn't say something like this, but all I'm saying is that it's possible to improve a song made by other people. You're being too defensive about Slash, but we're not direspecting the guy, we're not saying Bucket improved ALL solos.

Who cares if the majority of 30-years old fans love that song cause of Slash? Maybe they didn't even heard the Bucket's version. It's not fair to say they still love the song cause of Slash like they didn't liked Bucketheads solo.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 21, 2005, 02:47:43 PM
See, The fans also suffer persecution for liking the new sound or for being young.  :'(

Anyway, once the new movement starts, nothing can stop it. Time will tell.  Just stretch out and wait, my hearties!
Again, I believe Chinese Democratic GN'R and we, the fans will have the best laughs.


Finck on the other hand..... ::)
is a goodfellow and a great match with the Bucket.
Robin's solos are full of human touches and BHs are kinda superhuman.
Two heads are better than one. :smoking:


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 21, 2005, 03:37:18 PM
Saul, since you're more familiar than most of us with the Buck, do you think he would consider coming back (if asked...which probably will never happen  :P )?
I know I'm not called, nor have I got the answer but I reply for Saul anyway.

First, have a look at the following article.

Loder: When do you think we will actually see this album? Is it possible to say early next year?

Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well.
Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...
... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

This is from A conversation with Kurt Loder MTV US November 8th 1999

Sounds familiar, nay?  ;D


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 21, 2005, 09:52:53 PM
Saul, since you're more familiar than most of us with the Buck, do you think he would consider coming back (if asked...which probably will never happen  :P )?
I know I'm not called, nor have I got the answer but I reply for Saul anyway.

First, have a look at the following article.

Loder: When do you think we will actually see this album? Is it possible to say early next year?

Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well.
Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...
... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

This is from A conversation with Kurt Loder MTV US November 8th 1999

Sounds familiar, nay?  ;D


deva vu eh?!

we can hope the guy can be asked to come back and hopefully he accepts. It would be nice.

To be honest , I'm hoping that REALLY soon we dont have to talk about how the new band plays the "old" songs , hopefully the next tour will close the chapter on the greatest cover band of all time and allow us to concentrate our thoughts on how the new members play their own songs!


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 21, 2005, 10:15:36 PM
Saul, good point. I've been saying that same thing for along time. For 'new' GNR to be taken seriously, they need to perform about 80% new songs on tour. I would say 100%, but some people just have to hear Jungle, Sweet Child,etc. Back in the late 80's/mid 90's, John Fogerty would only play his solo stuff, no CCR. GNR should do the same. It would be a completely new era for the band, and if they pulled it off, Axl would once again be taken seriously, and it would throw a possible reunion down the toilet. But touring playing songs from one album would be difficult. It would be the exact same songs every night, no changeups. GNR might need a 2 CD release(like Illusions) to pull it off.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 21, 2005, 10:36:30 PM
well , Jungle , SCOM , Paradise City and Novemember Rain are staples. I think those will always be part of a "gnr" setlist. Other then those though , new songs are a must!

Would be a pretty bold move though if axl (pardon the pun) ax'ed the "staples" too and just did ALL new songs.  :o

It would show a sure sign of confidence in the new material to say the least.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 21, 2005, 10:45:44 PM
I think its a great idea. I would be first in line to buy tickets that's for sure. I'm sick of Jungle,Sweet Child,etc. Its been done millions of times, and cant be done any better than it was 87-91. I say start from scratch!  But some people might boo if he leaves out some hits. Axl could take a page from Queensryche's book: Open with Jungle, play a few more hits, play CD in its entirety, then close the show with a few more hits.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 22, 2005, 03:25:14 AM
Well, I'm sure he will play more new songs on the next tour. They didn't play more new songs before just because there was no album in the sight. Of course I'm assuming the new record would be out before they starts the new tour.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 23, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
Betcha.
I personally love to see the new chapter filled purely with hellva new songs off Chinese Democracy. Or else these mixed only with a few old songs picked for each show. Axl is the ballsiest guy Tommy has ever met.

BH's spokes puppet said his departure was due to no CD release aye?
So there's hope that Chinese Democracy may bring BH in the line. 


Hey thanks  :) I didn't know that Robin did quit and then came back.

Maybe he didn't. :o


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Saul on July 24, 2005, 08:52:42 PM


BH's spokes puppet said his departure was due to no CD release aye?
So there's hope that Chinese Democracy may bring BH in the line. 


actually , it was Bucket's manager who made a brief statement on Bucket's behalf.  :peace:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485811/20040317/guns_n_roses.jhtml?headlines=true

After fours years as a member of Guns N' Roses, during which time the band canceled more shows than it played and released no original material, guitarist Buckethead has had enough.

The eccentric musician, who wears a fried-chicken bucket on



his noggin and talks only through a hand puppet, has walked out before but has always returned to the fold. This time, however, it looks permanent. At the end of last year, Buckethead became fed up with Guns' inability to complete an album or tour and stopped working with them, his manager said.

Buckethead appeared on the green carpet at the Grammy Awards last month and was introduced by Parliament/Funkadelic bassist Bootsy Collins as a member of Guns N' Roses, but by that time Buckethead had already told Guns frontman Axl Rose he no longer wanted to be in the band, the manager said.

Guns N' Roses are scheduled to headline the Rock in Rio festival in Lisbon, Portugal, on May 30. It is unclear whether the band will have a new guitarist by then. Guns N' Roses' label would not comment on Buckethead's departure.



And it seems Bucket kinda quit once before too , although axl didnt even know about it , but kinda confirmed as much in his press release.

And heres a link to a story from the "1st" time Bucket "quit"

http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4486&type=NWS

31 Jul 2001  According to reports on Brazilian MTV, Guns N' Roses have parted company with guitarist Buckethead.

The six stringer, famed for wearing a KFC bucket on his head, caused GN'R's to 'postpone' their world tour earlier this year because he was suffering from a bout of "internal haemorrhaging". It later transpired that the cancellation had something more to do with the fact that the band's long awaited new studio album, 'Chinese Democracy', has not actually been finished!

Will the band make it to these shores for their sold out December dates? Your guess is as good as mine!




Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Voodoochild on July 25, 2005, 12:02:13 AM
MTV Brasil don't have a clue about the band. They're still saying about the November 29th fake release date. I guess they  just said something they saw on the internet by that time. Don't use them as a good source. :(


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Dust N Rose on July 26, 2005, 07:53:25 AM
Saul, since you're more familiar than most of us with the Buck, do you think he would consider coming back (if asked...which probably will never happen? :P )?
I know I'm not called, nor have I got the answer but I reply for Saul anyway.

First, have a look at the following article.

Loder: When do you think we will actually see this album? Is it possible to say early next year?

Rose: We're hoping. Yes, definitely, everything seems to be going well.
Robin's departure was abrupt, sudden, you know, not expected...
... but at the same time, it's turned out to be a good thing. We've been able to push some of the guitar parts a step farther, that had he been here, it's not something that would have been considered, and I wouldn't have been rude enough to attempt to do that. Robin did a great job, but we've been able to up the ante a little bit.

This is from A conversation with Kurt Loder MTV US November 8th 1999

Sounds familiar, nay?? ;D


Pphebe there's a difference between the two statements. Axl was more upset with Buckethead's departure, certainly more than Robin's one. You can see that he was annoyed from the fact that Buckethead wasn't reliable. He didn't gave any sign of life for a long time. He was allowed to do his own solo as well. But yet...


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: Mikkamakka on July 26, 2005, 01:54:27 PM
OMG, what a load of crap. Those who think that without Slash Guns N' Roses would have been bigger than Poison..those guys are insane. You have your crazy theories that he didn't have too much musical input. ooops, that was Axl. Even Izzy said in an interview that he always wrote Ju Ju Hounds and Izzy Stradlin' Band type songs but then came Slash and rewrote them. Imagine YCBM in a Ju Ju Hounds version. Weak. But let's say that Slash didn't write anything but the solos. Without those solos GN'R would have been only a 'could have been' and not one of the biggest bands of all time.

Before some fanatics attack me: without Axl it'd have been mediocre, too. These two guys were the biggest. Together. But Guns N' Roses needed the original five guys and their chemistry to explode. When Steven and Izzy left some chemistry was still around and kept the band alive for the tour. And then it died. And noone can resurrect it.


Title: Re: New Brain Interview.
Post by: ppbebe on July 26, 2005, 03:12:02 PM
Well said Mikka. Shut up "Axl people".  Enough said! :rant:
We're talking about the band. The band of 8 men, no actually 7 men.


Pphebe there's a difference between the two statements. Axl was more upset with Buckethead's departure, certainly more than Robin's one. You can see that he was annoyed from the fact that Buckethead wasn't reliable. He didn't gave any sign of life for a long time. He was allowed to do his own solo as well. But yet...
hebe? :rofl:

Yeah. cos the situations quite differ.
Mate, read the cancellation letter again. Maybe You'll have another deja vu.