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Title: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: August 18th on July 14, 2005, 10:44:02 PM
i remember this ad back in 2001 and the petition for it, it was one of the most memorable and beautiful things done during this long wait. so i was wondering, eva, or anyone else for that matter, could you post up the whole ad as it was printet in the LA weekly? i've read it before but i don't remember everything it said, and in the picture i have seen of it the text is mainly too small to make out. could you post this up? in this times of pessimism and negativism, it would be cool to see that ad again. 8) thanx.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: D on July 14, 2005, 10:50:09 PM
I think we should get together with all the other message boards, have one person in charge that everyone can trust

and people donate through Pay Pal and we take out a huge full page ad in the LA Times asking Axl to come back etc etc etc

a huge letter of support etc

I think it would be cool

and then put from all the different websites that contribute

probably leave out GNRsucks.com, wouldnt want that in the newspaper.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: conny on July 14, 2005, 11:06:35 PM
I liked the original ad a lot. Very good idea!  : ok:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 14, 2005, 11:09:14 PM
I think we should get together with all the other message boards, have one person in charge that everyone can trust

and people donate through Pay Pal and we take out a huge full page ad in the LA Times asking Axl to come back etc etc etc

a huge letter of support etc

I think it would be cool

and then put from all the different websites that contribute

probably leave out GNRsucks.com, wouldnt want that in the newspaper.

I actually looked into it last November. It would cost $75,000

*edit*

Sorry I'm wrong the $70,000 was for the LA Times not the LA weekly.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on July 14, 2005, 11:10:36 PM
Maybe I'm delirious from the long wait...but I think this is a great idea. ?

 :beer:

OOPS, I just saw the $75,000 price tag.  Great, but not feasible.   :'(


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 14, 2005, 11:16:46 PM
Sorry I'm wrong the $75,000 was for the LA Times not the LA weekly.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Saul on July 14, 2005, 11:17:25 PM
I donate 10 or 15 .... cents.  : ok:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: younggunner on July 14, 2005, 11:53:49 PM
Im in


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 15, 2005, 01:10:19 AM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.  The article is on some web page  I forget where tho.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Saul on July 15, 2005, 09:02:16 AM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.  The article is on some web page  I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on July 15, 2005, 11:17:41 AM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.? The article is on some web page? I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.

I was tallking about the vegas show that was not taped.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 15, 2005, 11:20:32 AM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.  The article is on some web page  I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.

I was tallking about the vegas show that was not taped.

all 3 vegas shows were taped.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: 2NaFish on July 15, 2005, 11:32:58 AM
axl reads these message boards. why don't i save us a sizeable chunk of change...


....AXL COME BACK!!

Or, you could just give me the 75k.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 15, 2005, 12:09:06 PM
I think this is a great idea, don't get me wrong and I think that the support would make Axl feel unbelievably loved by his fans BUT..there's that but....I hate the fact that we would have to donate money to get him to come back.  I love him and I want him to resurface just like you all but I can't see spending 75,000 dollars to do it :o   I mean he should ignore the negative on the board and look at the positive, doesn't matter what we post about this whole situation, we are all on here for Axl and he should know that, each and every forum dedicated to him and to GNR....isn't that enough??

I am prepared to get flamed :-\


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Neemo on July 15, 2005, 12:21:53 PM
I think this is a great idea, don't get me wrong and I think that the support would make Axl feel unbelievably loved by his fans BUT..there's that but....I hate the fact that we would have to donate money to get him to come back.? I love him and I want him to resurface just like you all but I can't see spending 75,000 dollars to do it :o? ?I mean he should ignore the negative on the board and look at the positive, doesn't matter what we post about this whole situation, we are all on here for Axl and he should know that, each and every forum dedicated to him and to GNR....isn't that enough??

I am prepared to get flamed :-\

I agree with you whole heartedly DTJ. I don't want to spend money to say welcome back GnR, cause it won't matter. Didn't that happen a few years ago when the 2002 was on? I didn't contribute to it but I thought that people put an add in the la paper


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Hoosier on July 15, 2005, 01:10:32 PM
we should hold a big concert like Live 8 to raise money. then invite GN'R to play :hihi:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 15, 2005, 01:17:21 PM
Axl wouldn't show up, the excuse being that GNR cannot do a show without Buckethead. Using that excuse, its hard to believe the 87-93 era even occured.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on July 15, 2005, 01:48:04 PM
i remember this ad back in 2001 and the petition for it, it was one of the most memorable and beautiful things done during this long wait. so i was wondering, eva, or anyone else for that matter, could you post up the whole ad as it was printet in the LA weekly? i've read it before but i don't remember everything it said, and in the picture i have seen of it the text is mainly too small to make out. could you post this up? in this times of pessimism and negativism, it would be cool to see that ad again. 8) thanx.

thank you for the kind words regarding our efforts ?:)

here is a link to a scan of the ad: ?http://photobucket.com/albums/v85/gnraxlrosette/personal/?action=view&current=5d111d57.jpg

(any direct linking will kill the bandwidth quickly - so if anyone wants to repost it, please only post a link to it )

D, I had to smile at your enthusiasm... ? fans like you are the reason that we were able to put the ad together.... ? It can be done. ?

conny ?:-*

Axl4prez & chineseblues.. .yeah, the price difference between the times and the weekly is about $72,000!
interestingly enough, i was contacted by the "New Times LA" who was interested in hosting the ad...
but it was decided to go with The LA Weekly because they have a history with GN'R....
I think they would love to do business with us Gunners again... they staff that i dealt with thought it was very cool.
(Had it run just one week before they would have placed it opposite Guns N' Roses full page ad for the Vegas shows.)
I think it would be kick ass if a furture fan tribute was timed for the album release advertisements - the weekly would likely place them on facing pages.

Dave... I know what you meant - that Hard Rock shows were not bootlegged. ?
I was in contact with some who surfaced years ago claiming to have an audio boot of the hard rock gigs...
when I asked for a sample he swore he had the audio... but interestingly enough he was only interested in trading for nudie pics! ?:nervous: LOL! ?

I think this is a great idea, don't get me wrong and I think that the support would make Axl feel unbelievably loved by his fans

 : ok:

but, regarding your 'but'....
but....I hate the fact that we would have to donate money to get him to come back. ?I love him and I want him to resurface just like you all but I can't see spending 75,000 dollars to do it :o ?

it shouldn't be about gettng him to come back or trying to will him to resurface. ?I believe Axl and the guys already know they are wanted. ;)

It's about coming together as a group of fans and expressing ourselves in a way which we believe would be heard and that would demonstrate our support. ? The fact that the fans involved contributed money to do so, just means they felt it was worth it to do so. ?The LA Weekly Ad was not done to ask Axl or the band to do something. ?It was done to express ourselves. ?The fact that Axl (and the band) acknowledged it was a bonus. ?I and others involved have had wonderful personal experiences through our involvemenet. ?

I feel the only reason to do something like this (again) would be for the fans... ?to have an opportunity to express ourselves and to believe that it be recieved by the object and inspiration of our expression. ?:)

I've often thought that it would be very cool to extend a group "Congratulations" to GN'R ready to go for when the album is announced/released. ?I've heard of and heard from several fans who would be interested in supporting a project like this. ?

What do you guys think?

(and btw... it would not cost $75,000!! ? :P ?The cost of the ad in the LA Weekly in 2001 was less than $3,000 EDIT: i recalled incorrectly it was just under $3,200 ;) )








Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 15, 2005, 01:57:43 PM
Your intentions are good, but its not gonna work. If constant posting in forums by his hardcore fans doesn't make a difference, neither is an ad in a newspaper.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on July 15, 2005, 02:05:08 PM
Your intentions are good, but its not gonna work. If constant posting in forums by his hardcore fans doesn't make a difference, neither is an ad in a newspaper.

I have to agree with James here.  I applaud the intentions but Axl knows we are here and we celebrate him in a sense everyday.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: younggunner on July 15, 2005, 02:08:55 PM
If you watch the Rio3 show Axl runs out off the stage and into that aisle during the end of patience and say " I need You" .....well Axl....now us, the hardcore fans need you...and what better way to show that than plastering a page of that in a newspaper....


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on July 15, 2005, 02:47:14 PM
I think this would be an awesome idea again to do this.? Just to let ole Uncle Axl know we still love him and we would love to have him back again.? Sign me up! : ok:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on July 15, 2005, 03:08:34 PM
Your intentions are good, but its not gonna work. If constant posting in forums by his hardcore fans doesn't make a difference, neither is an ad in a newspaper.

I have to agree with James here. I applaud the intentions but Axl knows we are here and we celebrate him in a sense everyday.

It's not about trying to 'make a difference'....   and I agree that many fans 'celebrate him' daily on the net...

like I said:


it shouldn't be about gettng him to come back or trying to will him to resurface.  I believe Axl and the guys already know they are wanted. ;)

I feel the only reason to do something like this (again) would be for the fans...  to have an opportunity to express ourselves and to believe that it be recieved by the object and inspiration of our expression.  :)



I'm not for a "please come back GN'R'....  ;)
I am for a having a "Congratulations GN'R' ready to go when the time comes.  : ok:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: D on July 15, 2005, 04:28:07 PM
Im not sure if I was posting at the time

what happened Eva with the ad?

give me the story if u dont care, I havent heard about it.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 15, 2005, 05:14:54 PM
Eva We should have a little chat, I have an idea that would be awesome  ;)


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on July 15, 2005, 05:34:39 PM
Im not sure if I was posting at the time

what happened Eva with the ad?

give me the story if u dont care, I havent heard about it.


long story short... i got the idea to get a bunch of fans together to "Welcome Back Axl" and also welcome the new band.  So many months and thousands of emails and internet posts later, a bunch of us (from over a dozen different countries) suceeded in doing just that.  and took a page in the LA Weekly to do just that.  It was published the day before the 1st gig at the hard rock.  it was given in person to a member of the gnr camp at the hard rock who later told us "this is great".  another fan who participated met one of the band members who expressed the band appreciation for the gesture.  i gave it to yet another member of the gnr camp at the joint on the 29th who the next day confirmed to me that he had personally given it to Axl and then at the NYE show further enthusiastically related Axl's reaction to me.  during the show another fan who had participated quoted his message to axl on a towel and held it up in the crowd in the front row.  Axl saw it and recognized the message from the paper.  he said to the crowd "you guys read the news in the paper?"  then after being encouraged and aided by the fans near me I passed the paper up to axl on stage who looked it over as he slowly walked to the back of the stage and then, pausing to sip some water before speaking, axl acknowledged "the persons responsible" and said thank you. 

so... it is doable...

"Congratulations Guns N' Roses" anyone?   ;D

Eva We should have a little chat, I have an idea that would be awesome ;)

sure, hit me up with a PM.... I'm on my way out but will check back in later.  :)


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: D on July 15, 2005, 05:40:14 PM
Thats the coolest thing ever

that kicks so much ass!

Id love to be able to do something like that again

to bad we arent rich or we could errect a giant billboard.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: PeterCoffin on July 15, 2005, 05:58:29 PM
Heh... erect.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: parisrocks on July 15, 2005, 07:12:11 PM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.? The article is on some web page? I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.

I was tallking about the vegas show that was not taped.

all 3 vegas shows were taped.

Now, I know that there were cameras there, but do you know of audio or video boots?


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: jabba2 on July 15, 2005, 07:31:16 PM
Im not sure a black and white ad in the newspaper is gonna have the right effect.

Might be better to have a webpage solely dedicated to Axl, and have fans signing it like a petition.
A newspaper isnt as permanant.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 15, 2005, 08:02:15 PM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.  The article is on some web page  I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.

I was tallking about the vegas show that was not taped.

all 3 vegas shows were taped.

Now, I know that there were cameras there, but do you know of audio or video boots?

There is an audio boot of the first vegas gig, and rumours of boots of the other ones. Video hasn't surfaced yet....


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: killingvector on July 15, 2005, 09:10:14 PM
Axl got choked up at one of the shows, the Vegas show that was never taped I believe when this was given to him.  The article is on some web page  I forget where tho.

The Vegas shows , like all GNR shows , are taped.



I was tallking about the vegas show that was not taped.

all 3 vegas shows were taped.

Now, I know that there were cameras there, but do you know of audio or video boots?

There is an audio boot of the first vegas gig, and rumours of boots of the other ones. Video hasn't surfaced yet....

I don't think anyone booted those double vegas shows. As for the video, probably locked away in the vaults.


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: willow on July 15, 2005, 10:15:17 PM
Glad someone brought this up!
EVA! As usual you had a great idea! I am so glad I got to take part in it!!
Shawn if you and Eva are going to do something! I am in!!! Let me know!!
amyl


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: chineseblues on July 15, 2005, 10:24:24 PM
Glad someone brought this up!
EVA! As usual you had a great idea! I am so glad I got to take part in it!!
Shawn if you and Eva are going to do something! I am in!!! Let me know!!
amyl

Ill let you know at the dizzy board  :beer:


Title: Re: the LA weekly ad - EvaGNRAxlRosette
Post by: willow on July 15, 2005, 10:34:17 PM
Cool!!
And for some of the people here that couldn't be in Vegas. Yes, Axl was very happy to see the ad and he was choked up!!! The guy does have feelings!! Also heard that the other band members were very greatful!!!