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Title: dave mustaine
Post by: psycotron on July 08, 2005, 08:40:43 AM
does any1 like dave singing voice. in reveiws of mdeth cds on amazon people saying they hate his voice. hes one of my favourite singers. i think his voice sounds great and goes well with megadeths music (thrash and hard rock). its different and he can get it high like in peace cells. his voice beats the shit out of all those eddie veddar wannabes and pop/punk singers like the simple plan guy and all those pop singers. oh and its better than those mudvayne like voices in the new metal bands.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Izzy on July 08, 2005, 10:50:16 AM
I think it takes some getting used to, as do their lyrics. Megadeth are never going to be a band that will appeal to all, their style has always alienated more that its attracted

Took me a while to get into their stuff - the original mixes of some of their stuff is pretty godawful, but with the remasters they have become an entirely new band and one i rate as possible my favourite band





Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 08, 2005, 11:31:53 AM
I like his voice but like Izzy it took me a while to appreciate it, there are alot of people who just don't give things a chance. His voice does suit the music though, besides I'd grit my teeth like that to if I had to sing and play guitar like Dave does. He is a musical Genius


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on July 08, 2005, 12:38:44 PM
I think it takes some getting used to, as do their lyrics. Megadeth are never going to be a band that will appeal to all, their style has always alienated more that its attracted

Took me a while to get into their stuff - the original mixes of some of their stuff is pretty godawful, but with the remasters they have become an entirely new band and one i rate as possible my favourite band

I agree with you, Dave voice is kinda difficult to accept the first time you hear it, but once you get used to it is one of the greatest specially for the music he plays.  :peace: I think megadeth music is kinda classy just for people that really enjoy music


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Metallifuck on July 08, 2005, 02:08:30 PM
His voice is alright for me but on Take No Prisoners on RIP re-master it sounds all over the place compared to the original.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Rob on July 08, 2005, 02:30:56 PM
He's got a very unique voice.  That's what I like most about it.  Nobody sounds like Dave.  That being said he really doesn't have a great voice, but it fits perfectly with Megadeth.  Seriously...could you imagine anyone else singing in Megadeth?


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 08, 2005, 04:20:57 PM
I got a bootleg mp3 of Axl singing "Anarchy in the UK" with Dave and Megadeth  : ok:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: MikeB on July 08, 2005, 05:42:14 PM
Dave Mustaine kicks ass,his vocals sound awesome, they sound mean and dark in a threatening way bashing the government. Dave Mustaine is one of my top fav metal musicians. He doesn't pose off of other metalheads.I love heavy metal but sometimes it seems like bands are only and always trying to be all? Anti-Christ and Satanic( the reason I say this because I believe people should keep their beliefs personal). But with Dave, he doesn't whine and bitch about stuff he can't change, he focuses on heavy riffs,shredding and proves that Metal dosen't actually stand for religion , for freedom of mind.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: N.I.B on July 08, 2005, 09:54:30 PM
not much of a singer in my opinion, but more of a guitarist. i love his guitar playing ablility way more than a frontman.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Izzy on July 09, 2005, 09:05:31 AM
I got a bootleg mp3 of Axl singing "Anarchy in the UK" with Dave and Megadeth? : ok:

When did he do that? I've never heard of Dave and Axl meeting - that would rock


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on July 09, 2005, 09:52:17 AM
Definitively Dave mustaine is a really talented person, even a better guitarrist for me than kirk hammet, im not a huge megadeth fan but i like his voice, anyway my brother doesnt and he likes all their music... so its a matter of opinion ....

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Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: jimmythegent on July 10, 2005, 07:45:50 PM
Man it was seriously weird seeing him so humbled in the doco "Some kind of monster'


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: psycotron on July 11, 2005, 12:08:55 AM
Man it was seriously weird seeing him so humbled in the doco "Some kind of monster'
yeah. after all the trash talk hes said about metallica. it was weird seeing him being nice to lars. those people that taughted dave in the street saying metallica to him, what losers. if i saw dave walking down the street i would get down on the ground and say "im not worthy, im not worthy". i like dave more than kirk also cause dave writes most of mdeths music and his guitar solos are exellent. kirks solos sought of sound all the same.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: metallex78 on July 11, 2005, 07:51:12 PM
Not a big fan of Dave's voice, but he's a great guitar player. I recently bought Megadeths Greatest Hits and there are some great songs on there, I think I'll definitely look into buying some of the other albums. :beer:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 04:37:00 AM
I gotta question for the Droogies on this board.  What do you think of the remastered albums compared to the older versions.  I think the music on the remasters sounds a lot better.  Especially on Rust In Peace and So Far So Good So What.  However, some of the people I know who have heard the old versions and the remastered versions of the songs do not like the way the vocals sound on the new versions.  I don't really see a big difference.  What do you guys think?  Do you prefer the old versions or the remasters?  Also I think I heard some stuff about Dave re-recording some of the vocals?  Anybody know if this is true?


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: metallex78 on July 12, 2005, 05:51:42 AM
I'm curious about that too, because if I'm gonna buy any of the other albums, I'd like to know which ones to go with, the original versions or the new remasters.

I've always kinda liked Megadeth (I was always more of a Metallica fan) but after a few spins of the Greatest Hits, damn, they were a f**king great band. I've got Symphony of Destruction cranked up at the moment, it's f**king great! : ok:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 12, 2005, 06:46:46 AM
I haven't heard any of the remasters, except Killing is my buisiness, I think it is better than the original. I can't really afford to go buy all the albums again, so I stick with the originals


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Izzy on July 12, 2005, 01:12:06 PM
The remasters are so much better, and Dave re-recorded vocal and guitar parts - infact a very large amount has been re-done.

I'd definetly recommend the remastered versions and as ever the album to go for is Rust in Peace

I've always been surprised CTE is rated so high - i think its their weakest album by some way, i find Sweating bullets to be hugely embarassing to listen to...its too silly for words, especially Dave's 'mad' voice....


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 12, 2005, 01:36:45 PM
The remasters are so much better, and Dave re-recorded vocal and guitar parts - infact a very large amount has been re-done.

I'd definetly recommend the remastered versions and as ever the album to go for is Rust in Peace

I've always been surprised CTE is rated so high - i think its their weakest album by some way, i find Sweating bullets to be hugely embarassing to listen to...its too silly for words, especially Dave's 'mad' voice....

Come-on man you can't be serious, that song is classic!!!

"Hello me, Meet the real me, and my misfit's way of life, the dark black past is my ...  most valued possession"  :hihi:
"hind sight is always 20/20, but, looking back it's still a bit fuzzy, speak of mutually assured destruction, nice story, tell it to Reader's Digest"
"I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet. I'm chomping at the bit and my palms are getting wet."

awesome stuff, the video is sooo cool!

Now I wanna hear it, damn!!!! It's at home.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Izzy on July 12, 2005, 03:06:13 PM
The remasters are so much better, and Dave re-recorded vocal and guitar parts - infact a very large amount has been re-done.

I'd definetly recommend the remastered versions and as ever the album to go for is Rust in Peace

I've always been surprised CTE is rated so high - i think its their weakest album by some way, i find Sweating bullets to be hugely embarassing to listen to...its too silly for words, especially Dave's 'mad' voice....

Come-on man you can't be serious, that song is classic!!!

"Hello me, Meet the real me, and my misfit's way of life, the dark black past is my ...? most valued possession"? :hihi:
"hind sight is always 20/20, but, looking back it's still a bit fuzzy, speak of mutually assured destruction, nice story, tell it to Reader's Digest"
"I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet. I'm chomping at the bit and my palms are getting wet."

awesome stuff, the video is sooo cool!

Now I wanna hear it, damn!!!! It's at home.

Never worked for me, and i find the whole album just lacks something - it hasn't got the sheer power and speed of RIP or the hooks of Youthanasia - its a half way house but fails to do anything as well as the other albums manage.



Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 12, 2005, 03:29:01 PM
The remasters are so much better, and Dave re-recorded vocal and guitar parts - infact a very large amount has been re-done.

I'd definetly recommend the remastered versions and as ever the album to go for is Rust in Peace

I've always been surprised CTE is rated so high - i think its their weakest album by some way, i find Sweating bullets to be hugely embarassing to listen to...its too silly for words, especially Dave's 'mad' voice....

Come-on man you can't be serious, that song is classic!!!

"Hello me, Meet the real me, and my misfit's way of life, the dark black past is my ...? most valued possession"? :hihi:
"hind sight is always 20/20, but, looking back it's still a bit fuzzy, speak of mutually assured destruction, nice story, tell it to Reader's Digest"
"I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet. I'm chomping at the bit and my palms are getting wet."

awesome stuff, the video is sooo cool!

Now I wanna hear it, damn!!!! It's at home.

Never worked for me, and i find the whole album just lacks something - it hasn't got the sheer power and speed of RIP or the hooks of Youthanasia - its a half way house but fails to do anything as well as the other albums manage.



It was built for commercial success that's why


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2005, 04:45:54 PM
I like CTE, probably a bit over-rated, but I prefer it to Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings.  The remaster of Killing is much better, but that's because the original print wasn't even on a major label and the quality was awful.  I don't like the idea of rercording stuff, but I think the remasters sound great.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: psycotron on July 13, 2005, 02:47:12 AM
The remasters are so much better, and Dave re-recorded vocal and guitar parts - infact a very large amount has been re-done.

I'd definetly recommend the remastered versions and as ever the album to go for is Rust in Peace

I've always been surprised CTE is rated so high - i think its their weakest album by some way, i find Sweating bullets to be hugely embarassing to listen to...its too silly for words, especially Dave's 'mad' voice....

what is that song about? anxiety or something

Come-on man you can't be serious, that song is classic!!!

"Hello me, Meet the real me, and my misfit's way of life, the dark black past is my ...? most valued possession"? :hihi:
"hind sight is always 20/20, but, looking back it's still a bit fuzzy, speak of mutually assured destruction, nice story, tell it to Reader's Digest"
"I'm in trouble for the things I haven't got to yet. I'm chomping at the bit and my palms are getting wet."

awesome stuff, the video is sooo cool!

Now I wanna hear it, damn!!!! It's at home.
what is that song about? anxiety or something. "anxiety attacking me"


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Izzy on July 13, 2005, 04:30:10 AM
I like CTE, probably a bit over-rated, but I prefer it to Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings.? The remaster of Killing is much better, but that's because the original print wasn't even on a major label and the quality was awful.? I don't like the idea of rercording stuff, but I think the remasters sound great.

I got 'Killing' the other day. Its a good album, but sadly is a poor second to Metallica's Kill em all, which seems faster and far more intresting riffs and solo's. Megadeth seem to have taken an album to warm up.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on July 13, 2005, 10:09:47 AM
Yeah but remember that some songs were created by Dave in Kill 'em all  : ok:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2005, 03:58:46 PM
I also prefer Kill 'Em All to Killing.  But as Mr. Purple said, Dave was very involved with the writing of many songs on Kill 'Em All.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: metallex78 on July 13, 2005, 07:55:32 PM
Yeah but remember that some songs were created by Dave in Kill 'em all? : ok:

True, he co-wrote some of the songs on Kill Em All and even on Ride The Lightning.

But if you compare what Metallica produced out of the co-written songs and what Dave produced of the co-written songs, there's no comparison really. Take The Four Horsemen compared to The Mechanix, the latter just sounds silly to me.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 14, 2005, 07:57:52 AM
Yeah but remember that some songs were created by Dave in Kill 'em all? : ok:

True, he co-wrote some of the songs on Kill Em All and even on Ride The Lightning.

But if you compare what Metallica produced out of the co-written songs and what Dave produced of the co-written songs, there's no comparison really. Take The Four Horsemen compared to The Mechanix, the latter just sounds silly to me.

But Mechanix is the original!!!! When the band fired Dave they stole that song (which at the time was Daves masterpeice) and changed the words. I have a bootleg of Metallica called Cliff Burton's First Show when Metallica is Lars, James, Cliff and Dave Mustaine and they play mechanix. The whole purpose of Mechanix on Killing is My Buisiness was the give a huge "Fuck You" to metallica and to show that he was a faster, more technical guitarist. and Mechanix is alot faster than 4 horsemen. Of course Metallica's stuff would sound better though, they had more money and resources and better players and a contract. Dave was stuck with a bunch of kids and no money. Megadeth was formed for Dave to say I'm better than you and you are not gonna stop me.

I wonder what would happen on this board if VR recorded and released madagascar?  :nervous: :confused: :crying:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 09:55:34 AM
I seen Megadeth in concert in 1991 on that 'Clash of the Titans' tour they did with Slayer, Anthrax, and Alice in Chains. Megadeth was the highlight of the show(although Slayer did kick ass). The best thing about this concert was the fact that each band was touring behind their best albums. Last song of the night: 'Holy Wars', my favorite Megadeth song. I always wanted GNR to do a cover of that song.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: metallex78 on July 14, 2005, 08:04:21 PM
Yeah but remember that some songs were created by Dave in Kill 'em all? : ok:

True, he co-wrote some of the songs on Kill Em All and even on Ride The Lightning.

But if you compare what Metallica produced out of the co-written songs and what Dave produced of the co-written songs, there's no comparison really. Take The Four Horsemen compared to The Mechanix, the latter just sounds silly to me.

But Mechanix is the original!!!! When the band fired Dave they stole that song (which at the time was Daves masterpeice) and changed the words. I have a bootleg of Metallica called Cliff Burton's First Show when Metallica is Lars, James, Cliff and Dave Mustaine and they play mechanix. The whole purpose of Mechanix on Killing is My Buisiness was the give a huge "Fuck You" to metallica and to show that he was a faster, more technical guitarist. and Mechanix is alot faster than 4 horsemen. Of course Metallica's stuff would sound better though, they had more money and resources and better players and a contract. Dave was stuck with a bunch of kids and no money. Megadeth was formed for Dave to say I'm better than you and you are not gonna stop me.

I wonder what would happen on this board if VR recorded and released madagascar?? :nervous: :confused: :crying:

I know Mechanix is the original version. But they didn't exactly steal the song, they wrote it together when Dave was in the band, like they did with allot of other songs they co-wrote. Metallica didn't like the lyrics Dave came up with so they wrote new lyrics to the music. And just because Megadeth's version is faster, it doesn't make it sound better, well to me it doesn't, but that's personal opinion.
I think it's a different comparison to VR recording a new GN'R tune.

Anyway, regardless of that, Megadeth went on to write some great metal tunes and are a great band.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 15, 2005, 09:47:25 AM
Yeah but remember that some songs were created by Dave in Kill 'em all? : ok:

True, he co-wrote some of the songs on Kill Em All and even on Ride The Lightning.

But if you compare what Metallica produced out of the co-written songs and what Dave produced of the co-written songs, there's no comparison really. Take The Four Horsemen compared to The Mechanix, the latter just sounds silly to me.

But Mechanix is the original!!!! When the band fired Dave they stole that song (which at the time was Daves masterpeice) and changed the words. I have a bootleg of Metallica called Cliff Burton's First Show when Metallica is Lars, James, Cliff and Dave Mustaine and they play mechanix. The whole purpose of Mechanix on Killing is My Buisiness was the give a huge "Fuck You" to metallica and to show that he was a faster, more technical guitarist. and Mechanix is alot faster than 4 horsemen. Of course Metallica's stuff would sound better though, they had more money and resources and better players and a contract. Dave was stuck with a bunch of kids and no money. Megadeth was formed for Dave to say I'm better than you and you are not gonna stop me.

I wonder what would happen on this board if VR recorded and released madagascar?? :nervous: :confused: :crying:

I know Mechanix is the original version. But they didn't exactly steal the song, they wrote it together when Dave was in the band, like they did with allot of other songs they co-wrote. Metallica didn't like the lyrics Dave came up with so they wrote new lyrics to the music. And just because Megadeth's version is faster, it doesn't make it sound better, well to me it doesn't, but that's personal opinion.
I think it's a different comparison to VR recording a new GN'R tune.

Anyway, regardless of that, Megadeth went on to write some great metal tunes and are a great band.

I could be way off here, but I was under the impression that Mechanix was a very important song to Dave, like his defining moment in his personal career at the time, like his November Rain, it was his baby, and then Metallica took it and, in Dave's eye, ruined it.

As to being faster, well have you listened to Kill'em All? Thats' what they were all about back then, Fast and Heavy and Intricate, Dave just said, "you guys don't know what you are doing with "MY" song, this is how it's supposed to be done.

Is Megadeth's version better? Personal opinion.
Is it faster? Hell Yeah.
Was it Childish fo Dave to try and show them up like that? probably.
Were Metallica assholes for recording it? Damn straight.

In that light, it is stealing a song. I only used VR/GnR comparison because this is a GnR board : ok:


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on July 17, 2005, 08:42:43 AM
In meeting him I thought he was a real dick.  We were backstage hanging with Suicidal Tendencies (who invited us back) and then Dave had us forcefully removed by security for not having backstage passes.  I was asked by Rocky George to watch his kid for a few minutes while he went to the washroom for christ sake but that didn't matter to Dave.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: MikeB on July 17, 2005, 11:06:06 AM
In meeting him I thought he was a real dick. We were backstage hanging with Suicidal Tendencies (who invited us back) and then Dave had us forcefully removed by security for not having backstage passes. I was asked by Rocky George to watch his kid for a few minutes while he went to the washroom for christ sake but that didn't matter to Dave.
And when was this?


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on July 17, 2005, 02:10:02 PM
In meeting him I thought he was a real dick. We were backstage hanging with Suicidal Tendencies (who invited us back) and then Dave had us forcefully removed by security for not having backstage passes. I was asked by Rocky George to watch his kid for a few minutes while he went to the washroom for christ sake but that didn't matter to Dave.
And when was this?

About 10 years ago... International Centre Mississauga, ON



Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: dustNroses on July 18, 2005, 12:02:12 AM
Dave Mustaine is a legend, I saw on the VH1 thing on megadeth thet dave did not actually plan to sing but then couldnt find anyone, I think he got better as time went on, His voice just suits the music. If mustaine wasnt megadeths vocalist, They would have changed singers 5 times by now going off how many line up changes they have been thru.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Rob on July 18, 2005, 12:10:10 AM
Dave Mustaine is a legend, I saw on the VH1 thing on megadeth thet dave did not actually plan to sing but then couldnt find anyone, I think he got better as time went on, His voice just suits the music. If mustaine wasnt megadeths vocalist, They would have changed singers 5 times by now going off how many line up changes they have been thru.

Great point.  Through all the changes the band went through, the most noticeable constants have been Mustaine's voice and songwriting.  When a band changes its voice its a big risk.  And the more times it changes the harder it is to follow the band.  Dave's voice is one of Megadeth's trademarks, and one of the things that separates them from the other thrash bands.


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: dustNroses on July 19, 2005, 07:20:31 AM
Dave regrets gettin kicked from metallica but he has no reason to. Legendary musician, nobody can craft riffs the way dave does. Even recently off the blackmail the universe album (which fukin rocks), Chris poland plays guitar on most songs. They sound like peace sells. I FUKIN LOVE IT!!!! he he he he he (evil laugh)


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: psycotron on July 20, 2005, 05:20:43 AM
didnt dave write the lyrics and music for mechanix when he was in panic?


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Neemo on July 20, 2005, 11:12:26 AM
didnt dave write the lyrics and music for mechanix when he was in panic?

Actually I do recall reading that the song was written by Dave before his days with the Mighty Met, however I don't know how true it is. I couldn't find any "official" news on the subject


Title: Re: dave mustaine
Post by: Megaguns on January 08, 2006, 06:01:27 AM
dave rules