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Title: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Felix da Housecat on July 06, 2005, 02:08:48 AM
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The diagrams in The Shape of Song display musical form as
a sequence of translucent arches. Each arch connects two
repeated, identical passages of a composition. By using
repeated passages as signposts, the diagram illustrates
the deep structure of the composition. .... More complex
compositions create more intricate diagrams.

(http://tinypic.com/6rq5wp.jpg)

http://www.turbulence.org/Works/song/mono.html


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Rob on July 06, 2005, 02:41:38 AM
What the fuck happened here?


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: 33 on July 06, 2005, 04:43:23 AM
Yeh very true, Estranged is a very deep song that is my favourite Guns song by a mile and a favourite of many others too but what the fuck is that all about?


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Rockin' Rose on July 06, 2005, 04:52:39 AM
probably how complicated/multi-layered song Estranged is

just my thought


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Evolution on July 06, 2005, 02:53:18 PM
This is actually a very interesting find, thanks felix



looks like it identifys identical notes in a song. Obviously Estranged is hugely different.

Click on the link and try your own tunes, pretty interesting


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: ppbebe on July 07, 2005, 05:58:52 PM
interesting. I don't know what this sharp really indicates.

Having a browse through other songs, I find the one of Bach sharps has a speck of similarity to this one.


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: nesquick on July 07, 2005, 06:05:02 PM
I remember there were similar graphics when i worked with a pro-tools engineer. He was a specialist of that.


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: blasphemer on July 08, 2005, 12:07:48 AM
whooa dude thats way rad


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: conny on July 08, 2005, 07:51:49 AM
It's kinda symetric, not as mathematical as some of Bach's works, maybe like some of Hendrix. Don't know too many composers who did this...

But the minute you start to think about it, you take away something from the song.

Just enjoy the music (both when you MAKE and LISTEN to it) and don't think too much about it.

It's a beautiful, livid and inspiring piece of music, that's all that matters.


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: nesquick on July 08, 2005, 08:29:38 AM
hope to hear a song in the estranged/november rain style on CD.


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on July 08, 2005, 01:58:56 PM
Yeah me too I saw another songs but all of them where kinda uneven I dont know maybe I just dont know how to interpretate this images


Title: Re: The Shape of Estranged
Post by: Elrothiel on July 08, 2005, 11:24:49 PM
That's really beautiful I think! The fact that music can make such beautiful VISUAL and real images really is awesome! I just looked at the Steve Miller Band one for Fly Like An Eagle... JEEZ! That made me go listen to the song! I wanted to hear where all the huge loops were comin' from!

BTW, I think Axl would love the MIDI file of Estranged! :hihi: Jeez! Its half 4 AM!! I'm going to bed!