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Title: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: alexrose on June 30, 2005, 07:43:40 AM GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? - June 30, 2005?
According to Pause & Play, Geffen Records has set a November 29, 2005 release date for the long-awaited GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy". "Chinese Democracy" will feature the band's first new music since "Oh My God", the group's contribution to the soundtrack to the 1999 movie "End of Days". GUNS N' ROSES' last studio album was a covers CD, "The Spaghetti Incident?", which was released in 1993. In March 2004, Geffen Records issued a GUNS N' ROSES "Greatest Hits" album, which has since gone on to sell 2,195,937 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. GUNS N' ROSES singer Axl Rose and fellow original members Slash and Duff McKagan tried to block the "Greatest Hits" album's release by arguing in a lawsuit that Geffen Records was putting out the CD without their input. Geffen officials countered that they wouldn't have released the album if Rose had delivered the long-promised album "Chinese Democracy", which has been in the works for 10 years.? http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/ Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: 33 on June 30, 2005, 07:51:47 AM Once again why not eh! Gotta keep positive. One of these release date rumours will be right!!! I hope its this one!!
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 07:54:56 AM Lest anyone get worked up over this....it's not an official date....
There's been lots of rumors running around in retail, most of them concerning dates in November. This is one of them. They're just that, right now...rumors. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Pandora on June 30, 2005, 07:57:47 AM Is Pause & Play a music magazine?
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on June 30, 2005, 08:00:27 AM Lest anyone get worked up over this....it's not an official date.... There's been lots of rumors running around in retail, most of them concerning dates in November.? This is one of them.? They're just that, right now...rumors. Good idea. Until we hear from Uncle Axl, this means nothing. If this date is indeed true. We should hear something within the next few days. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 08:02:42 AM "Pause and Play" is a music site. I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in them, personally. But that's just me.
http://www.pauseandplay.com/november2005.htm Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 08:07:50 AM Lest anyone get worked up over this....it's not an official date.... There's been lots of rumors running around in retail, most of them concerning dates in November.? This is one of them.? They're just that, right now...rumors. Good idea.? Until we hear from Uncle Axl, this means nothing.? If this date is indeed true.? We should hear something within the next few days. And the reason it's the most popular rumor floating around retail is because of the date: It's the Tuesday after Thanksgiving. The holiday shopping season will have started.... If you think back, we get a rumor of release on that Tuesday (or the previous Tuesday...or on "Black Friday) every year.... I've shot an email off to a friend of mine who works in PR and Marketing for a mid-sized music chain (owned by a much larger chain) to get her impression of this. When last I spoke to her (a week or so ago), she'd heard nothing. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: nesquick on June 30, 2005, 08:33:09 AM we will see that.
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: metallex78 on June 30, 2005, 08:34:13 AM Hmmm... I'm still skeptical, but then again, all of us here are... :yes:
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: 2NaFish on June 30, 2005, 08:45:42 AM Chinese Democracy starts NOW!!!
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: jarmo on June 30, 2005, 09:05:48 AM Chinese Democracy starts NOW!!! That's the spirit!? :hihi: Like the rest, I'm not gonna get my hopes up because of this. We've seen the release date mentioned on a few sites over the years..... Edit: That site also says "Chinese Democracy" (producer: Sean Beavan; first single: "Catcher in the Rye"; Read here (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36830)) /jarmo Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: spuddy1 on June 30, 2005, 09:15:55 AM I hope this is true, ive heard these rumours for the last 8 years and for some reason i belive this one. : ok:
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: TWOIFBYSEA on June 30, 2005, 09:31:51 AM finally an unconfirmed rumour date that actually falls on a Tuesday !
Now where was I? Ah yes *resumes holding breath* Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: DemocracyRose on June 30, 2005, 09:32:19 AM Edit: That site also says "Chinese Democracy" (producer: Sean Beavan; first single: "Catcher in the Rye"; Read here (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36830)) /jarmo Quote Thats why i dont believe it... Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on June 30, 2005, 09:33:10 AM Chinese Democracy starts NOW!!! That's the spirit!? :hihi: Like the rest, I'm not gonna get my hopes up because of this. We've seen the release date mentioned on a few sites over the years..... Edit: That site also says "Chinese Democracy" (producer: Sean Beavan; first single: "Catcher in the Rye"; Read here (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36830)) /jarmo Thats why i'm wondering the validity of this. ?Sean Beavan from what I understand hasn't been involved in a while. ?I was under the impression that Axl himself was producing based upon what Tommy has said in recent interviews. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: alternativemonkey on June 30, 2005, 09:34:45 AM I'm going to be the ultimate cynic here . . . ?>:(
If I ran an obscure web-site like Pause & Play, I might post a fake release date for Chinese Democracy just to generate some traffic. If Sanctuary or Geffen were to give any web-site the inside track on a release date, don't you think it would be this one first?!!! Honestly. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Saboteur Cyb. Punk on June 30, 2005, 09:36:09 AM It's Bullshit!!! The source for Pause & Play is Sp1at.com ;D ;D ;D
http://www.pauseandplay.com/november2005.htm Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Scabbie on June 30, 2005, 09:37:18 AM Agreed, although there's nothing stopping them trying for that date!
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: spuddy1 on June 30, 2005, 09:43:08 AM It's Bullshit!!! The source for Pause & Play is Sp1at.com ;D ;D ;D http://www.pauseandplay.com/november2005.htm Were does it say 29th november? Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on June 30, 2005, 09:43:23 AM I'm pretty sure now its bullshit and Pause and Play more than likely pulled that date out of their collective asses. >:(
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: TWOIFBYSEA on June 30, 2005, 09:44:37 AM *stops holding breath* *thinks for a sec* ................
*resumes holding breath* Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 09:45:42 AM I'm going to be the ultimate cynic here . . . ?>:( If I ran an obscure web-site like Pause & Play, I might post a fake release date for Chinese Democracy just to generate some traffic. If Sanctuary or Geffen were to give any web-site the inside track on a release date, don't you think it would be this one first?!!! Honestly. Heh heh...I wouldn't call that cynicism...I'd call it realism. :) Especially considering what we've seen in the past. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 09:46:51 AM *stops holding breath* *thinks for a sec* ................ *resumes holding breath* Man, even if it DOES come out Novemeber 29th....you're gonna be one blue assed motherfucker come then. :o ;D Edit: Mods...Twoifbysea's title should now be "Papa Smurf"..... Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: slash4ever on June 30, 2005, 09:59:51 AM OK, well i guess we'll just have to wait and see........... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Jamie on June 30, 2005, 10:07:08 AM I doubt this is true. As soon as there is a real release date. I think it's more likely it will be Axl or someone else related to the making of CD to make the announcement rather than some website.
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: McGann on June 30, 2005, 10:29:08 AM When press release hits,
Billboard will have it up fast So keep checking there. Splash /Mike Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: WARose on June 30, 2005, 10:39:36 AM i think it?s bullshit. if there was a release date announced or there just was one we wouldn`t get to know it from a site most of us never heard of before. i guess there was a press release from geffen (or sanctuary??) on gnronline.com or we`d get the news from mtv.com or something.
i keep checking this site and someday, hopefully.......... :peace: Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Neemo on June 30, 2005, 10:42:11 AM Quote According to Pause & Play, Geffen Records has set a November 29, 2005 release date for the long-awaited GUNS N' ROSES album, "Chinese Democracy". Why the fuck would Pause & Play announce a release date the Geffen has set. I think Geffen would announce their own announcements. Maybe that's just me though. Unless it is one of those, "If someone else says it then we can deny it if it doesn't happen" things. If it looks like shit and smells like shit, then guess what it is? I ain't beleving nothin 'til it's in my fucking hand. :rant: Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Neemo on June 30, 2005, 10:50:03 AM Chinese Democracy starts NOW!!! That's the spirit!? :hihi: Like the rest, I'm not gonna get my hopes up because of this. We've seen the release date mentioned on a few sites over the years..... Edit: That site also says "Chinese Democracy" (producer: Sean Beavan; first single: "Catcher in the Rye"; Read here (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=36830)) /jarmo yeah and when you click the 'Read Here' link this is what comes up. Quote GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' Out By Christmas? - May 17, 2005? Sp1at.com has issued the following report: GUNS N' ROSES' long-awaited comeback album, "Chinese Democracy", will be out by Christmas 2005, according to one employee at Universal Music Group. Sp1at.com recently spoke to the UMG worker, who said "The release of 'Chinese Democracy' is being organised now but it is being dealt with by the top people," although he did admit that due to this he "will not be able to get specific information on anything in the coming months." When asked whether the album would see the light of day in 2005, he replied "'Chinese Democracy' will be out by Christmas. I am quite certain of that." Whether or not this means that Axl Rose has handed over a completed copy of the album to the record company is currently unknown. However, going on Axl's previous record, it would be very foolish on Interscope and Sanctuary's behalf to be discussing the release process without having actually received a finished product. In response to the latest rumors that an Interscope employee suggested the album would be out by Christmas, the UMG worker said, "It is unlikely that representatives of Interscope are likely to know anything about CD [at this stage]."? Its crap! Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: TWOIFBYSEA on June 30, 2005, 10:53:48 AM no where does it say "sp1at says Nov 29" so lets put to bed any ideas sp1at is behind this...... save your flaming for pause & play
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: WARose on June 30, 2005, 11:02:33 AM no where does it say "sp1at says Nov 29" so lets put to bed any ideas sp1at is behind this...... save your flaming for pause & play we put no ideas to bed.... when you go to the link that?s the "source" i think, it`s this fuckin splat rumour. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Neemo on June 30, 2005, 11:04:42 AM no where does it say "sp1at says Nov 29" so lets put to bed any ideas sp1at is behind this...... save your flaming for pause & play Sorry i took the bold off of Sp1at, I'm just saying Pause & Play links to an old article from them, an artitcle which we've all read before. It seems that the same story is getting around to everyone finally. So now we're gonna hear all kinds of rumors about an actual release day from now until christmas. Basically it's the same shit different year. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: McGann on June 30, 2005, 11:05:32 AM There are 2 stories.
The 11/29 And the one from Sp1at. /Mike Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: madagas on June 30, 2005, 11:06:06 AM should this be in the cd release date rumor thread? ;D
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Ali on June 30, 2005, 11:06:29 AM no where does it say "sp1at says Nov 29" so lets put to bed any ideas sp1at is behind this...... save your flaming for pause & play we put no ideas to bed.... when you go to the link that?s the "source" i think, it`s this fuckin splat rumour. No, it's not from Sp1at. Sp1at has never given a specific date, Nov. 29th or any other. It's only been speculated that it will be a 4th quarter, pre-Christmas release. Furthermore, this site says that Sean Beavan is the producer when he hasn't been involved in years. Ali Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: vivek on June 30, 2005, 11:08:37 AM Isn't the court date set for November 2005 where Axl is being sued by Slash & Company regarding rights to the name GNR? And for Axl not letting certain Guns songs to be used in movies and commercials and such? I doubt he'd want to release an album under the GNR name before this issue is settled. Surely he doesn't want to release it now, only to have some of Axl's royalties taken away by his former bandmates.
Personally, I think whenever that issue is resolved, we'll get the album. So November or December 2005 could be somewhat legit ... who knows? Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: usurper on June 30, 2005, 11:13:36 AM I fucking doubt anything will come from this rumour
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Neemo on June 30, 2005, 11:14:53 AM no where does it say "sp1at says Nov 29" so lets put to bed any ideas sp1at is behind this...... save your flaming for pause & play we put no ideas to bed.... when you go to the link that?s the "source" i think, it`s this fuckin splat rumour. No, it's not from Sp1at.? Sp1at has never given a specific date, Nov. 29th or any other.? It's only been speculated that it will be a 4th quarter, pre-Christmas release. Furthermore, this site says that Sean Beavan is the producer when he hasn't been involved in years. Ali Yeah, its probably a combination of the two, These Pause & Play guys read the Sp1at article find the closest Tuesday to December , then go to a GnR Fan page and see Catcher in the Rye as a song title and Sean Beavan as a producer and BLAM!!! they have a "news story". BULLSHIT!!! Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 11:19:04 AM Isn't the court date set for November 2005 where Axl is being sued by Slash & Company regarding rights to the name GNR?? And for Axl not letting certain Guns songs to be used in movies and commercials and such?? I doubt he'd want to release an album under the GNR name before this issue is settled.? Surely he doesn't want to release it now, only to have some of Axl's royalties taken away by his former bandmates. Personally, I think whenever that issue is resolved, we'll get the album.? So November or December 2005 could be somewhat legit ... who knows? The lawsuit does not concern who owns the rights to the name GnR. No one disputes that Axl owns the rights to the name. The lawsuit disputes who controls the past GnR catalog, and it's use. Slash and Duff contend that, when Axl excersised his "out" clause of the legal Guns n Roses partnership (and, thereby, claimed all future rights to the use of the name Guns n Roses), he gave up his rights to control the use of the back catalog, since he was "quitting" the partnership that controlled that catalog. It's sort of convoluted.... Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: providman on June 30, 2005, 11:56:16 AM Lest anyone get worked up over this....it's not an official date.... There's been lots of rumors running around in retail, most of them concerning dates in November.? This is one of them.? They're just that, right now...rumors. Good idea.? Until we hear from Uncle Axl, this means nothing.? If this date is indeed true.? We should hear something within the next few days. And the reason it's the most popular rumor floating around retail is because of the date: It's the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.? The holiday shopping season will have started....? If you think back, we get a rumor of release on that Tuesday (or the previous Tuesday...or on "Black Friday) every year.... I've shot an email off to a friend of mine who works in PR and Marketing for a mid-sized music chain (owned by a much larger chain) to get her impression of this.? When last I spoke to her (a week or so ago), she'd heard nothing. Hey Pilferk, do you think your PR & Marketing friend rolls his(or her) eyes, sighs,? shakes his head slowly, & says "poor Pilferk" everytime he gets an Axl-related rumor email from you? ;D Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: pilferk on June 30, 2005, 12:00:06 PM Lest anyone get worked up over this....it's not an official date.... There's been lots of rumors running around in retail, most of them concerning dates in November.? This is one of them.? They're just that, right now...rumors. Good idea.? Until we hear from Uncle Axl, this means nothing.? If this date is indeed true.? We should hear something within the next few days. And the reason it's the most popular rumor floating around retail is because of the date: It's the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.? The holiday shopping season will have started....? If you think back, we get a rumor of release on that Tuesday (or the previous Tuesday...or on "Black Friday) every year.... I've shot an email off to a friend of mine who works in PR and Marketing for a mid-sized music chain (owned by a much larger chain) to get her impression of this.? When last I spoke to her (a week or so ago), she'd heard nothing. Hey Pilferk, do you think your PR & Marketing friend rolls his(or her) eyes, sighs,? shakes his head slowly, & says "poor Pilferk" everytime he gets an Axl-related rumor email from you? ;D I don't think she does...I KNOW she does.? She does it when she's sitting right in front of me, at least the eye rolling part, ( and I doubt she thinks "poor pilferk"...I'm sure she "uses" my real name ;) ) and I ask if she's heard anything new...so I assume she does it when I email her or call her about some new rumor that's cropped up.? But, given she's a personal friend, she humors me...just as I humor her computer questions when she's managed to muck up her home (and, occasionally, work) PC.? ?:hihi: Luckily, GnR stuff and PC stuff is a very small part of our conversations.? We talk more about my kids and her dogs than we do about that stuff.... Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Thorazine Shuffle on June 30, 2005, 12:30:22 PM Pause and Play now has deleted it. Thread over.
Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: TWOIFBYSEA on June 30, 2005, 12:36:28 PM http://sp1at.com/item.php?id=549
^ it has been removed from pause & play. Title: Re: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Carlos_f_Rose on June 30, 2005, 12:37:53 PM I wont believe it until its the same Rose who issues it...
Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on June 30, 2005, 12:57:57 PM If I ever lose my Faith there'd be nothing left for me to do
I hope that one of these days it just came up without major discussion you just walk to a music store and search in GNR section and see the Chinese Democracy. Ahh, I must be a dreamer. :peace: Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: ppbebe on June 30, 2005, 01:06:11 PM And the reason it's the most popular rumor floating around retail is because of the date: It's the Tuesday after Thanksgiving. The holiday shopping season will have started.... If you think back, we get a rumor of release on that Tuesday (or the previous Tuesday...or on "Black Friday) every year.... Besides, more importantly, unlike every year Merck has stated it's surfacing this year. So it should be one of these Tuesdays before the end of the year. "the late November" is everybody's guess, which is as good as mine. :peace:Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: nesquick on June 30, 2005, 01:19:32 PM It was a hoax. I think This topic will be locked.
Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: Guns N RockMusic on June 30, 2005, 03:37:55 PM According to Splat :
Earlier today it was reported that, according to Pause & Play, Geffen Records has set a November 29, 2005 release date for the long-awaited Guns n'roses album, "Chinese Democracy". Splat investigated this and discovered that the information offered by Pause and Play was baseless, and the site have acknowledged this and responded by removing this information from their site Merck Mercuriadis responded by giving Splat his trademark response 'When there is official news it will be announced" http://www.sp1at.com/item.php?id=549 This doesn't necessarily mean that CD won't be out on the 29th, just that no official date has been released by management. :hihi: Maybe Mysteron can comment on this Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: alternativemonkey on June 30, 2005, 04:08:14 PM Instead of t shirts, HTGH should start selling GNR FalseAlarm Clocks GNR FalseAlarm Clocks $20.90 Fearful about waking up for work on time! . . . Set the alarm on this clock and it will never ring! Axl himself has used this clock for years . . . so he coul lie in bed all day and never need to go to the studio. Title: Re: FALSE ALERT: GUNS N' ROSES: 'Chinese Democracy' To Surface In November? Post by: August 18th on June 30, 2005, 04:10:31 PM Instead of t shirts, HTGH should start selling GNR FalseAlarm Clocks GNR FalseAlarm Clocks $20.90 Fearful about waking up for work on time! . . . Set the alarm on this clock and it will never ring! Axl himself has used this clock for years . . . so he coul lie in bed all day and never need to go to the studio. lmao! :hihi: |