Here Today... Gone To Hell!

by our beloved Guns N Roses it seems.  :'(

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Chinese Democracy
Kingsbury Manx
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List Price    $13.98 (You save $4.19)
Category    Rock
Label    Yep Roc Records
CDU Part#    6885018
Catalog#    CD-YEP-210
Discs    1
Street Date    Sep 20, 2005

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This band , obviously is doing this to get some "press" for their album/band by using the name and taking the piss from axl. Oh well.

I dont think axl can really do anything to stop this either.  ???

what a bunch of nerfherders

this is gayer than what the offspring pulled.
"axl ripped off my braids so i ripped off his album title"
this is fucking pathetic.

fuck you little bastards!!! :rant:

if this album gets released under the name chinese democracy it would piss axl off as we have never seen before......      i guess we won`t get CD sooner because of this :no:

desperately striving for attention by using another band's album name just to provoke just shows how pathetic this band must be. don't give it too much attention, they don't deserve it. this is the lamest and most pathetic shit i've read in a long time. but then again, no one knows who the hell these idiots are so just try to ignore it. they ain't worth the attention, nor any association with guns n' roses.

why r u guys so angry??
axl can?t do anything unless he release the album before and then he will be the "first" and not the one who tried to "copy" the name
he just have this name in one of his songs
 :-X
 

Has anyone ever heard of this band?  Are they well known or is this their first album?

Umm, didnt Axl stop Offspring legally? He used the Chinese Democracy name for the tour in 2002 and for shirts and shit, and the logo reveal. Didnt that legally entitle him to the name, so Offspring said it wasnt worth it when they got the legal papers sent to them?

If Offspring couldn't use it, how could these douche's.

Now, the flipside. As a new band that pretty much has no chance of going anywhere (this being a dog eat dog business), you do whatever the fuck you have to to be heard (generally assuming your music and image is good). This being a publicity stunt, is pathetic as shit.

...but I understand.

I hope this album does come out under the CD name. At this point things like this are the only way we will get any sort of news or comments from Axl. What do you expect? This album has become such a joke in the media and in the music industry.

who knows, maybe they haven't even heard about Axl's album, it's a good chance.
but if they're doing it to fuck with him then it's just plain stupid!

I think axl should change the album name to "Techno anthems 2030"  :hihi:

Wasn't UYI slated for release under a psudoname back in the day?  Meaning, before they announced a released date with UYI, GNR entered it as greatest hits instead of the new album.  Could they just be picking a band name until they announce an official release date?

That's why I was wondering if it was a new band or an established one.  But from what I can see it appears to be a band that's been around awhile, so I think its unlikely that they would pick a real band to set up a release date. 

Yep,
Judging from the link Saul posted, they've released at least 2 albums.
No.
But for this thread....
They're no offspring. I guess No one cares.
And probably this will be the last time I hear of the band.

it's sad but also unless axl owns the name it's just an idea.. For all the time he has been gone it doesn't matter what the name is when it comes out again... When he comes calling with a new gnr album people will take notice..

I looked on HMV canada website and they don't have that information posted there. They are teamed with Amazon.ca (who don't have it listed either

Also their website doesn't have a new album listed to come out this year.

By the preview tracks for the album called "Aztec disipline" on cduniverse they sound like simon and garfunkle or something

Plenty of songs have had the same title, and I'm sure a couple of albums do too. So it not big deal. As long as our CD is released, than I'm happy. I dont give a fuck about these guys

I like the Star Wars reference.  :peace:

Oh no, not another trial...

Several months after announcing their album would be called "Chinese democracy", Dexter Holland said it was only a joke and that they never intended to pursue it any further. So who knows, maybe the GN'R legal team didn't have to serve them any papers.

I have the same opinion as N.I.B : considering different albums can have the same title, I don't think this release will have any effect on CD, especially since it's an unknown band.

This was bound to happen eventually, considering how long the title has floated around without being used. A few months ago, I said that when I finished my novel I was going to name it 'Chinese Democracy'(I was only joking). Apparently, these people aren't joking. I'm actually shocked it was an unknown band that did it. I always expected it to be a band that hates Axl(Motley Crue) or some Rap/Hip Hop artist trying to get attention.

well just like there are many songs witht eh same title I wonder if two albums can have the same name..? I'm sure it can happen.. CD has gotten press knownas the long awaited album that axl never produces but on the other hand if n when it does come out does the name really matter, only die hards and musicians following really care about the title..  I think axl should have just kept the name secret and not even mentioned it until he was ready then none of this could happen. He could have said I am working on an album and that's it..

Yeah let this band take the freaking album title, it sounds gay for Gn'R anyway .

Axls laywers will have a field day on this one : ok:

No one will even know this band released this album since no one knows who they are.

Dave, thats true. But the sad thing about it is when a GNR fan types the name Chinese Democracy into a search engine, this album will likely come up, giving it alot of attention.

u cant copyright song or album titles
this is what happens when u mention something and dont follow through, u get ripped off.

D, you make a really good point. Axl was going to get ripped off eventually. He's extremely lucky that its such an unknown band. If this band gets alot of publicity over this, Axl will probably scrap the name CD.

The band wont be unknown once they release the album. If this album get's out , with that name they will get a ton of press whereas writers will just wanna slag off on axl and joke about how another band released chinese democracy.

I highly doubt this band even knows who Guns N' Roses are, and if they do, I highly doubt they think they are still together and "releasing" an album called 'Chinese Democracy'. Don't lose any sleep over this one folks...

Dignan.

Uh, gotta disagree on this one.  This band knows exactly who GNR are.  They're taking advantage of the album name.  But you're rightabout one thing.  This is nothing to lose sleep over.

Yep, it's Strange.
I did some search and I failed to see any reason they should make a mock. They sound way too decent and modest. Their fan bracket, which is far from MTV-trend-oriented, doesn't seem to overlap with GNR's. Either way, I don't think this petit release will hinder the other one.

I have the perfect name for the new Velvet Revolver album..... :hihi:

Chineese Democracy will represent Matt's, Slash, Duff's, freedom from Axl. : ok:

Please send me my check now thank you.

Its good that they did that, Maybe now Axl will release his first to beat them

(i) Remember flicking through some CDs in a record shop afew years ago and noticed that theres a band called Nirvana, not the Nirvana most people know though, some band that look like they were around in either 60s or 70s  :)

The Offspring did that as a joke.  They were never going to do shit with the name.  It was a joke that's all.

I am sure Axl copywrited the name, I highly doubt he is not going to sue over this.    I can't see him letting another band use this name and if it is copywrited, it isn't legal, right?..correct me if I am wrong but can they use it without getting legal action taken against them?

I have never heard of Kingsbury Manx and after Sept. 20th, I don`t think we`ll know who they are then either.

What a cheap publicity ploy. Even if they ise CD as a title It won`t affect GNR  at all. ( not much affects GNR these days)

Maybe it is Guns N Roses, Just Axls side project, That would be cool.

According to the record company site (http://www.yeproc.com/artist_info.php?artistId=9969&page=viewrelease&itemNum=CD-YEP-2106), the album's been renamed.

The Fast Rise and Fall Of The South

Looks like Kingsbury Manx found out who they were messin' with.  :hihi:

:( god......  it would have been so funny :)

coverup name for GNR... expect news and information in next week! Stay Tuned!


      BL????! This is fucked up!

The end.

I remember reading that the Axl camp sent Offspring's people a "Cease and Desist" order but eventually it was determined that no legal action could stop them.  They ended up calling their piss-poor album something else in the end though.

I remember that. It was kinda funny. What surprises me is that the name Chinese Democracy still hasn't been used. If Axl doesn't hurry, someone like 50 cent or Eminem is going to steal the name from Axl. It would be a great marketing strategy for whoever steals it. It will probably happen within a year or two. I wouldn't be shocked if someone like Weird Al Yankovic took it, but it will more than likely be one of those famous rappers.

If its copyrighted, no one can use it.

They can change 60% of the name and have it, for example, EMINEM stands for M&M, just spelt differently, so as to avoid a lawsuit from the candy giant.

So if they do something like that, then its cool, no one can do anything about it.
Otherwise, its a no brainer, people are just poking fingers at Axl, no one really has the balls to pull it off commercially.

elmir, the copyright issue has been brought up before, and Axl doesn't own it. There is a book from many years ago called 'Chinese Democracy'. Someone WILL take it from Axl. It would create tons of publicity and controversy. It will be a sad day when it really happens. Axl just might abandon the project, because its hard to imagine him changing the name this late in the game.

Not sure about that.? There's been alot of speculation off and on over the past couple of years about whether or not the name has already changed.? But if it hasn't I can't imagine Axl dropping the project all-together just because someone used the name.? After all this time one would have to conclude that the album will either come out or forever remain "coming soon".

But who knows anymore?? ???

kayoss, I've thought the same thing concerning the name change. Its possible CD was a working title that just got out of hand. At the Osaka show, Axl specifically states that 'The Blues' is just a working title. But to everyone its The Blues, and when the tracklist is revealed, The Blues might not be listed, but when hearing the album its on there, but with a different title. But the name 'Chinese Democracy' is known all over the world. It would be a shitty marketing strategy to change it, and album sales would suffer in concern to curious fans. But if Axl has the same advisers he had in 2002, the name is probably changed.