Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I been checking out their site, and this ain't no professional journalism, is it? I mean it's not Rolling Stone or something...so what's the deal? Do they make up their "interviews" or are they for real?

I'm asking because they post all those "funny" interviews w/ Diz and Brain...

And some of that stuff just makes go WTF? ???

Does anyone know if you can believe what they publish on their site or not?

Its not impossible to get replies from band members. Whether Sp1at know them personally or not I'm not sure.

not legit anymore in my eyes

Sure, but the difference between a fan friendly one-liner or an actual interview is what I'm trying to find out.

Just so I can relax whenever the next "XY answers fan questions" comes up. ?;)

it could be some kid making everything up I wouldn't know any better.. Gigger seems like an ok dude so I don't know.. I never went to the site I only see what has been posted around..

Yes, the interviews are legit.? They're not exactly Rolling Stone interviews, but we're just trying to keep some dialogue with the band members going.

Anyway, they're fun, and it does allow the fans to ask some questions, even if they're not going to give us any really, really big news.

Btw, is this the right forum for this?  maybe so since it's about the Gn'R member interviews, but we could move the thread to the jungle, and I'd be happy to address all the complaints or issues that a lot of people seem to have about sp1at. 

How do you know? I mean it's cool, but why don't they just post a single picture with or an audio clip from a member?

Anyone could come up with a website like this.

Just because the band didn't deny anything posted there, doesn't mean it's legit.

I know because I work on the website with them...

Seriously, if you really don't believe it, you can ask the right people and find out for sure.   : ok:

Unless you hear an offical statement from Axl, take everything with a grain of salt.
Their interviewers suck since they have never heard of the term follow up question

I think they're alright, myself.  Hell, it's not hurting anything, and if they we're fake, I think GNR management would step in.  With Sp1at interviews being on Blabbermouth and in Ultimate Guitar, Merck would of said something if they we're fake.  Let em do there thing. :smoking: 

one of the few times I agree.. Like toddlers ask the questions... What ever happened to making a great list of questions and asking either way?? I appreciate people making the effort but with the wait the questioning could be kicked up a notch : ok:

these days magazines and rock websites just take other people's "hear say" and report it as news.. Why wopuld merck ever step in these questions are so vague that the answers are meaningless and reveal nothing

Yes Sp1at did reveal something.  Brain told Sp1at that there are NO I repeat NO bongos on the album.











 :D

The interviews are not meant to "reveal" anything. I mean, it would be cool if one of them told us the release date to Chinese Democracy, but is that really going to happen? ?I kinda doubt it....

The only person that can give us the info we want is Axl, and that's not what these interviews are about. ?Believe it or not, but some people are actually interested in the members as musicians and what they're doing in their lives, beyond Chinese Democracy.

And Axl Rose is not a member i suppose and no one want to know what he`s been doing in his life????....

Rock on  :peace:

Because they have none? It seems they conduct all their "interviews" via e-mail.


Exactly. Take a bunch of GN'R fans like you and me, let them make a relatively professional-looking website that covers other bands so as not to look too suspicious, shoot a few e-mails to band members through their official website, track down Axl's assistant from 15 years ago and god knows who else, and there you go, you've got sp1at ! And yes, you could do exactly the same if you had time on your hands.

OK, it's not exactly a secret I put absolutely zero faith in what sp1at say. But honestly, who can take seriously a website that posts things like "Is Axl going broke?" with no evidence, "Brain said Robin has a hot ass" (apparently they didn't notice Brain was making fun of their question), or lets their board members post Beta Lebeis' e-mail address and phone number, because, wow, she's selling sports cars on such and such website? Ludicrous.

well no one can get him.. Wonder what happened to the 10 questions for axl thingy..

I don't believe them - Sp1at, they seem to be the ones that start 'rumors'

When I read like Rolling Stone or Kerrang for example, it's not my job to dig up the editor's / writer's sources and stuff.

For me it's just obvious that no one at sp1t ever really SPOKE to a GN'R member.

It's not too hard getting a one liner. But selling that as an "interview" is a whole other level. I mean some fans got more serious and elaborate replies from just asking Tommy or Dizzy at gigs.


@ Pandora

That comment about Robin's ass (if it ever happened) was way more funny than "It's a band as long as I'm getting paid." What I'm saying is that sp1t really enters a sensitive level there. If Axl reads that shit and takes it the wrong way, sp1t could have bought GN'R a new drummer with that "interview". Well maybe not that dramatic, but do you know what I mean?

Well, I understand that, but I'm not exactly sure what else to say.


Well, like I said, we're not exactly trying to get interviews like that.  We just want to keep dialogue with the bandmembers going and keep the interviews fun and light hearted.  It's a tiny bit of a bridge between the band and the fans, even if some fans seem to resent us for doing it. 

Exactly, Hell I'm sure alot of people have emailed the band members through their official sites, its just not everyone posts the responses.

You people have no sense of humor. Here's my perspective . . .

Sp1at has befriended certain members of the band. They realize they aren't going to get any straight answers from these folks, so they toss them goofball questions to keep up the lighthearted relationship. Brain is having fun with his answers; I speculate that he enjoys all you people that get all riled up that he's "in it for the money". Sp1at realizes that if they drilled the band members for honest answers "on the record"; dizzy, brain, and richard would stop corresponding with them, so the joke questions continue. All this is done through e-mail. They don't pretend to be real journalists.

As for the rumors . . . The section is clearly labeled "rumors". Don't read them and complain that they are rumours! If you don't like the sex and violence, don't go see "R" rated movies. ?Granted Axl being cash strapped didn't tell us much, but it did point us to what was probably his car being sold on the Rob Report.

Speculation, Rumors, and Hope are all we have. If you want official news go read www.gnronline.com. ?;D

Yes I see what you mean. That's where a video or audio clip would help. At least you could know for sure when / if someone is joking. Written words hardly convey humour.


Granted, they are labeled as rumours. But somehow, a certain category of readers seems to take them as news, if not gospel, and somehow, they end up on websites such as blabbermouth, without the "rumour" tag of course. In the GN'R world, you're really walking on thin ice when you're spreading rumours.

I trust Loretian
And the others at Sp1at!
Not to mislead us.

The info they get
Is not always groundbreaking
But it's always fun.

They've not misled me
Or played being "insiders"
As so many have.

Acquainted with Brain
Dizzy, Richard, and others
Tangentially

More than I can claim!
All their rumors are labeled
Quite clearly as such

It isn't Sp1at's fault
That some ignoramouses
Ignore the titles.

We're in the same boat
Trying for information
From quite a dry well.

So take it with salt
But don't criticize them
They do not mislead.

Splash

/Mike

I doubt Axl is that Thick.

Went to the garbage can.

Anyway, is there anyone who really thinks that that we'll get GN'R-relevant and true answers from any member? I don't. What they say is maybe true, the exact true to their knowledge, but 'things change' in every fuckin minute in the GN'R world (to be correct: in Axl's world).

Whereas posts entitled 'Will Axl will dance in his kecks on the next tour?" or "Which early 1920's polka tune would you like to hear Axl cover on Kazoo?" are Purlitzer prize worthy nuggets of journalistic gold only comprehensible to a superior intellectual mind aren't they???? :rofl:

I say kettle... that pot's rather black isn't it? :rofl:

?

FYI, that is exactly the kind of post we're trying to fight. We don't condone them at all, and above all, they are not posted on the website itself.
You should visit the Administrative section, this is being discussed right now.

But you have to admit that it's looks like the band isn't much in touch with each other AND the fans nowadays. Do the math...

I mean sp1t is a public website, even journalists read it (I know they do). What if one of them gets bored and comes up with an article including quotes like "It's a band as long as I'm getting paid."

Is that what you wanna read about GN'R in a magazine? Even more important: is that what GN'R wants to read about themselves?

My point is no one (obviously not even the author of that interview!!) knows how it was meant and the rest of the band AND the fans don't even know if it is legit or not. Plus we don't know what's going on in the band.

Maybe there's not point discussing the whole sp1t thing, ok - but then again, what's their point? Because as a fan I'd rather have no interviews than some vague and out-of-the context stuff like that.

Just don't read it. Period.

Most people can read between the lines.? ?The written word has worked fine for thousands of years and i'm sure many people are still able to comprehend humor without audio or video.


Sp1at is at least trying to garner new information and create dialogue which is more than most sites are doing, and they do classify their info as being rumor, gossip or news.

It's a shame that other GNR sites claim this type of information is easy to get but don't do anything for their members to bring them even small tid bits of info.? ? But they do jealously bitch that the questions are too vague and that the exchange may piss of the "Axl god"

 

you can easily email the band members throught their official sites. Dont be fooled into thinking that only certain people can email the guys in the band.

If so many people were able to read between the lines, I guess we wouldn't be having that debate about Brain joking or not.


They might be trying, but they're not getting much. I can't exactly say I've learned anything from their interviews that I hadn't figured out myself.
And none of their rumours and speculations have been proved to be true.

As chineseblues said, it's extremely easy to do what sp1at do if you have time on your hands. It doesn't require any connections.

Splat and any other website to me are just posters who know about as much as I do.

when i see news or rumors from "Sources" i never take it seriously.

1) some of the rumours there have been proved to be true;

2) you DO need connections to get a few questions answered from Merck, Brain, Dizzy, Richard. If you don't please prove me wrong.

It's not splat's fault that GNR fans can't read between the lines.

Proving you wrong practically is impossible. But I bet that if any fan made a website similar to sp1at and sent e-mails through official websites, they could get exactly the same answers. Obviously I'm not going to create the website just to prove you wrong, so I guess you'll stand on your opinion, and I'll stand on mine.

btw, which one of their rumours have been proved to be true? I mean, things we didn't know beforehand or suspected? I remember when they were called the rumourboard, they gave us all kinds of dates for supposed releases or announcements, and none of them came true.

You don't even need a website. I know for a fact that if you email Merck about a rumour that he will answer you. I also know for a fact that if you email Richard through his site that he will answer you. I am willing to bet that if you had Dizzy's and Brain's email addys they would answer you as well.

What I hate most about Sp1at is the line of questioning. Sure, a few of their questions are ok, but most are lame. So, I guess when a member of GNR gives an answer that we dont like, we should take into consideration the previous questions that were asked. If someone asked me 3 or 4 lame questions, then asked about CD, I would probably give them a sarcastic or shitty response too. And Pandora, as far as the rumors go, you're absolutely right. Its all bullshit. But one of these days, a rumor will come out about CD release a day or two before the actual announcement. And everyone will think that person knows all. But in reality, it will have been a stroke of luck.

You're probably right. After all, those that expose their addy on their website must expect fans to send them messages. Otherwise they wouldn't make it public.
I was only thinking that posing as some sort of webzine probably helped in getting the questions answered.

I realize you probably don't visit our website, the only news you get from our site is the news thats posted here, so you assume that we mostly cover Gn'R.

Read the news front page:  Of the 15 most recent items, 5 have to do with Gn'R or members of Gn'R.  That's certainly a decent portion of them, but we're not just about Gn'R, and we provide real coverage.  We came together because of our love for Gn'R - as fans - as well as other bands.  Gn'R is certainly the number one priority, but it's not the only thing sp1at is about. 

"Webzines" don't just start in a totally professional, 100% pure "New York Times" quality unless they have a corporation backing them or something along those lines.  Believe it or not, but a lot of the time they start out as something that "just fans" do because of their love of something, and it grows into something more.

Other than you not respecting us, what's the difference between us and any other webzine?  You may not like what we do, but we want to provide coverage of the bands we like and are interested in, and we will continue to try and improve the quality of our reporting, be it real news, gossip, interviews, or reviews, and continue making sp1at into something really neat.

So whatever, man.... keep resenting us for trying to do something and taking some initiative.  We've been up front and honest about everything we've done, and done it to the best of what we're capable of doing.  Insult us for being "just fans" and trying to do something more than most fans happen to try and do.  BigBoss and gigger, as well as the rest of the crew, are dedicated fans and lovers of music, and I'm proud to help them and to be involved with something I love so much.

Well, Loretian, if you want Sp1at to be taken seriously, start asking better questions. CD is turning out to be one of the most interesting stories of the decade, and you ask questions that a junior high student would ask. If memory serves me correct, didn't you ask a GNR member about which member had the greatest ass? Thats moronic bullshit. Why not try getting to the heart of the matter. Ask something that has value. I know you cant ask specific questions about CD, but if you want any crediblility, next time you interview someone from GNR, ask about all the discrepancies and contridictions in all their statements over the past three years. That would be a VERY interesting question to ask. And alot of people would like to know the answer. And another thing, you have zero talent at follow up questions. When Richard mentioned that him and Robin were alternating between lead and rythmn, he set you up for the perfect question. You should have asked: If the music is done, as its been said many times in the past, why are you and Robin alternating between lead and rythmn? Yet, you just ignored his contradiction. Pretty fucking sad.

First of all, as far as "being taken seriously", I am completely happy to have you to continue not take us seriously.? As long as this topic is open for debate here on HTGTH, I'll defend what we're doing, and respond to your arguments.? ?As has been proven, and stated, many people like what we do, and we'll continue to do it, even if you don't like it.

As far as the questions, I hope we can get better questions in the future, but there's a lot of things that are taken into consideration, and our number one priority is to maintain dialogue and keep the communication open.

?Anyway, I don't see all these so-called contradictions that you see.? I think you just take things out of perspective.? Until Axl says the album is done, it's not done.

Edit:? And in case you didn't notice, we do allow people to submit questions.? ?Generally speaking, we're not going to ask them hostile questions, and certainly none of us have any sort of attitude or belief that any of the band members owe us anything: albums, answers, explanations, anything at all.

Exactly.  D's got it right.

In terms of conny's original query and the basis for this thread, the question was, "how legit are the interviews?"  The interviews are legit, in that they really are the band members responding to the questions we've posed to them.

As far as our news items, and you guys not taking them seriously, I challenge you to present any false news items we've posted.  If you don't want to believe what we post, that's fine, but I certainly don't see any logical reason behind it.  In terms of our rumours, I think the fact that they're rumours is enough to begin with, and it's certainly not something we expect you to take seriously, or really believe it's going to happen.  If we actually thought it was going to happen, and really believed, it would be news, not rumours.

If you had read my previous comments, you would know I'm aware you cover other bands. And I see it as an attempt not too look too suspicious, but rather like "some sort of webzine", which would tend to lend you a little more credibility. Because 5 items out of 15 dealing with GN'R is a hell of a lot if you ask me, considering the number of bands which are out there.


Well, I've just taken a look at the first "news" page, and I don't think a serious webzine would post something something like "Heather Locklear semi-stalked Richie Sambora to get a date with him". Or maybe at least they would post it in the gossip section, because it's not exactly earth-shattering music news, is it?
I don't respect you because of your methods. I know you're going to scream bloody murder about this, but what you do is nothing short of Internet stalking. I mean, tracking down Axl's assistant from 15 years ago, what the fuck? I'm sure if you could interview the guy who mows Axl's friggin' lawn, you would do it !
I don't know exactly what you're trying to obtain though those "interviews", but it's quite obvious the members of the band won't answer any serious questions about CD. Apparently some of them didn't agree to answer your questions at all, although I'm sure you hit on them too (so to speak).
And please don't give me the "we're interested in those people for their solo endeavours", because I don't buy it. How interested were you in Bobot Adrenaline before finding out they were friends with Tommy?
Finally, I would like to say I'm not putting you down for being "just fans". Jarmo is just a fan as well, but I feel he made a respectable website and I appreciate his methods. Other fansites have also made a great job over the years.
Now I can rest my case. I don't mind you doing your thing on your side, but please don't let the things you post, especially the rumours, pollute this board over here. Thank you for your attention.

All the people working on sp1at.com are aware of other people's privacy and feelings. They always think long and hard before contacting anyone, taking these factors into consideration. They are curteous and polite and if anyone does not want to answer questions, they are immediately granted their wish.

sp1at.com do not pester people for information they do not want to give.

Leading on from this, sp1at.com understands that band members have been asked every question possible about Chinese Democracy by various people including fans that post on this board and others. So.... they could pester the band members with these same questions again, getting the same answers again, or.... they can ask some more interesting and sometimes funny questions so we can hear a little about the members of GNR as individuals. If your not interested in that, then don't bother reading it.

When the time comes when band members can talk about Chinese Democracy, I'm sure that "more serious" questions will be asked.

As for rumours... The amount of rumours that have started on this board, reached other boards and spread around the internet before being labelled as pure speculation are countless. You can not avoid them. What sp1at do is have a seperate section for these so they are clearly labelled as rumours from the start.

@#$%Funker

I'm sorry, is this a GN'R message board?

This thread is ridiculous, or simply should be posted elsewhere on the board.

If you don't like or believe Sp1at then don't visit the site. Simple as.

I am beginning to think that the majority of Gnr fans are complete morons. This is one of the most ridiculous threads EVER on this board. Just lock the thing and in the future delete all Splat related threads. And, at the same time, move every conversation in the Gnr section to dead horse because if there were no rumors and snippets from band members, then there is absolutely NOTHING to talk about in the Gnr world that hasn't been beaten to death. Unless of course you want to talk about the Gnr dream you had last night. Pandora, I suggest you take a look at some of the topics that show up around here. Some people are beginning to take themselves WAY too seriously.? :'(

I don't visit it. But in case you didn't notice, a lot of their "news" and "rumours" end up here, so I don't have much choice but reading them.


As I said before, there are lots of threads on this board I don't necessarily agree with. When I see threads like "What happened to Axl's sexual conquests?", I can't say I don't find that ridiculous. But there's just so much you can do to moderate the whole fucking thing. And that applies to all mods in all sections (esp. the Jungle). If we can prevent those threads from ending up here instead of locking them, it will be all for the better.
Conny asked if we thought sp1at was legit : I don't think they are and I tried to argue my point. Now if some people think sp1at are so great, they are free to visit that website and post on their message board.

I don't bother going over to their stie, I just know it from being in the gnr community.. If it is as simple as some people sending mass emails to random members and posting whatever they get back as answers then I see no big deal... I think if the stories are shared with us then we should (unless you email them yourself already) maybe jot down a few basic questions to ask..

My questions would be

*has buckethead's part been redone or did they stay?*

*second would be if n when you tour will you need an extra guy for the guitar parts or can you handle it with just you two?*

*is anything suppose to happen in 2005?*

Nothing eath shattering but some basic stuff I'm sure we'd like to know..

just starting to think that, where have you been...  :hihi:

Actually, we don't conduct all our interviews through e-mail.  Most yes, but not all.  As a matter a fact, I interviewed the director of a film that Dizzy will be appearing in, over the phone.  If you'd like, I could PM you with the URL for downloading it.

As far as your comment about us not noticing that Brain was joking when he said Robin has a hot ass, I think anyone with a brain would be able tell he was joking considering the question was "What do you think of Robin Finck as a guitar player?"

No one directly posted Beta's e-mail address or phone number.  As a mod, I would have deleted that immediately.  I agree that the question of whether or not Axl was going broke was not "news".  It was gossip based off the notion that some of his cars may or may not have been up for sale.

The Q&A with Richard Fortus was NOT done through his official website's e-mail address.  It was done through another e-mail address.

Ali

Actually, you do have a choice.  You didn't have to read this thread involving sp1at, but you chose to do so.  I have made a sticky post in the rumors section urging people to not cut and paste the rumors they read there onto other boards such as this one, out of respect for the wishes of this board.  I don't condone it, and I've asked people not to do it.  Beyond that, there's not much myself or anyone else at sp1at can do.

I can only speak for myself, but the only bit of news that I've passed along to Jarmo was a portion of a transcribed interview with the Director of Dizzy's film regarding Dizzy's work on the soundtrack and the director's experiences being a roadie for GN'R in 2001. 

Ali

OK then. If Brain has to resort to that kind of answer, it means he's not willing to answer that type of question. If I were you I would take it as a sign that I shouldn't ask any GN'R-related questions anymore, but I guess the decision is up to you.


All I know is someone posted a link to the website where she sold the cars. And on that website, you could find her details, which amounts to exactly the same.


Wow, then if I sell my car tomorrow, it has to mean I'm going broke ! That's typical of your very twisted line of reasoning. Not to mention Axl's finances are not much of our business.


Very good and well. What I said is people e-mailing him through his official address would probably get the same answers. After all, it says "e-mail Richard directly using this"  :hihi:

Take a look at what's written below my screenname : it says m.o.d.e.r.a.t.o.r. As such, I must suffer the terrible plight of reading every thread in the sections I moderate.   :P

Pandora, don't you think you are overreacting a bit here-seriously? No need to be so defensive and aggressive. While they do have some poor questions and smartass answers, we also get good tidbits of info like Brain confirming, in his opinion, that Prostitute is one of the stronger tracks on the record. They also got Youth to comment on the song. One, he confirms the track exists,  two-essentially says it is on the record, and three- he comments on the quality of the song. Last time I checked nobody involved with this board gave us any info on tracks for the album. To me, that is the type of stuff that intrigues me and any fan who just simply wants to know about the new album.

I'm merely trying to offer explanations for some of these things.  I am not the one who sent these questions to Brain or Richard Fortus.  I'm just offering a potential explanation. 

Furthermore, the notion that Brain won't answer GN'R related questions at all is just not accurate, because, as Madagas pointed out, he agreed with the notion that "Prostitute" is one of the stronger tracks on the record.

The posting of Axl possibly putting cars up for sale was also posted by someone other than me.  It wasn't my "twisted logic".  I didn't agree that the notion of putting cars up for sale means that someone is going broke.  Again, I'm just trying to offer a possible explanation.

Ali

I misinterpreted what the responsibilities of a moderator on this board entails.  But, aren't there other mods?  I mean, if you despise Sp1at so much, why not leave it to one of the other mods to look over a thread involving Sp1at?

Regardless, your hostility is ill-founded.  There have been people posting rumors, some knowingly posting false rumors, as long as GN'R message boards have existed.  This pre-dates, and will certainly post-date, the existence of Sp1at.  Perhaps your anger should be directed at those who do not respect the rules of this board.

Ali

I don't think the problem is the rumors themselves.

It's the fact that when they get posted on a message board, they're just rumors, but when they appear on sp1at, Blabbermouth or on the radio, they're suddenly more credible.

Sometimes when I read news stories on the above sites I wonder if people really are interested in what Scott Weiland was drinking that morning or how hot Robin's ass is.

I don't know how much material sp1at decides not to post, but sometimes it seems like they'll post anything just to have something.....

That's just my opinion.

I do something similar myself occasionally when I post something on the site after ten people have e-mailed me the same mention from some paper or web site. So I add it to the site even though I don't see the item as "news worthy".




/jarmo

Truthfully, there is often long gaps between when something regarding Guns is posted.  There has been a lot of stuff that was not posted.  There is no written, or unwritten, policy of posting anything just to post something. 

The whole thing about posting something about Robin's ass is kind of random, as someone (not one of the mods) wanted to know what Brain thought of Robin as a guitar player.  Instead of giving a straight answer, Brain decided to give a smartass, and in my opinion, very funny, answer to the question.  There's also no policy on gettin opinions on the asses of various bandmembers.  :hihi:

I also think it's not the rumors themselves that are problematic.  It's the lack of differentiation between fact and gossip, and the lack of respect for the rules of certain message boards that's the problem.

Ali

You think I'm being aggressive? Wow, I wonder what you would say if I was really being aggressive.


It must mean I'm not that desperate for information then, because I don't really see what those tidbits bring us. If at least we had a more detailed description of the song, maybe it would capture my attention. But we don't  :-\


My "anger", as you called it, can be directed at all kinds of things and people at the same time. Don't worry about that. The existence of sp1at doesn't distract me from the other troubles we might face here.

Unfortunately, there will always be people who will copy / paste anything they read on sp1at, so I guess I'll just lock the threads that are about rumours, and keep the rest open. Sometimes you have to eat shit and still grin.

sp1at is a big fat crock of shit......

Ok. I'm just letting you know how it looks to me.




Sometimes the problem is that something you post as a rumor ends up on Blabbermouth and it suddenly seems more credible.


I've seen rumors posted here end up on sp1at and then on Blabbermouth. It doesn't make them more credible.....



/jarmo

blabbermouth is just a hear say forum with a bunch of douchebag bashers..

Why not write a few good questions down for the group or the individuals and whoever emails them  see what they say for the hell of it..?

Bucket's parts staying?

if there is a tour will they need a third player to acompany them?

is anything going to happen in 2005?

Actually, I called it "hostility".

I just think that having hostility towards a board that has not done anything directly to disrespect this board and its rules seems unfounded.  People will always cut and paste rumors regarding GN'R from one forum to another.  That's always been the case and is not exclusive to Sp1at.  So, if you don't like rumors, I think the policy of closing threads that propagate rumors is a good idea. 

Personally, I've done what I can to prevent rumors from propagating onto this board and others.  I made one mistake a while back, and I regretted it and have tried to learn from it.

As far as wanting a more detailed description of the song "Prostitute", the administrator of Sp1at, when it was still known as the GN'R Rumour Board, got that from Paul Buckmaster.  He said it was a mid- to up-tempo with really aggressive guitars and a biting rhythm section.  He said that the addition of the string arrangement he wrote gave the song a "fire and ice" feel to it. 

Buckmaster working with GN'R on that song on and others can be checked just by looking at his CV:

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:cw0-cYQKDqUJ:raystaar.com/mcdaniel/pdf/PAULBUCKMASTER.pdf%20%22paul%20buckmaster%22%20guns%20n%27roses&hl=en

Ali

That's cool, Jarmo.  I was just trying to set the record straight on what has and hasn't been posted and if there are any  policies regarding that.

You're absolutely right, I don't think a rumor that starts here and ends up on Blabbermouth gains any credibility.  It doesn't at all.

I see what you're saying how something can gain credibility as it propagates.  Personally, I made one mistake that resulted in that happening, and I regret it.  However, all anyone can do now is exercise more discretion in what they do and don't past, and discourage others from spreading rumors.  I also think that people should take some personal responsibility for what they believe and don't believe to be fact.  If being a fan of this band should have taught all of us anything at all, it's to don't believe it until you actually see it happen.

Ali

As far as I remember, we were talking about Brain's comments, not Buckmaster's. All I'm saying is that Brain's comments on the song don't really add anything to what we already knew, therefore I don't personnally feel the "interview" brings anything to the table. It sure would have been interesting to hear what Brain's take on the song is.

Pandora, that is the problem, you don't grin enough or bite your tongue-most of your responses to people are simply rude and defensive. If you want to be miserable all the time, that is your issue. But, you shouldn't always bring other people down as well. Communicating on a message board should be like communicating in person-simple etiquette would be nice. On topic, Brain's answer to the question coupled with Buckmaster's and Youth's comments-which I knew came from Splat-does excite me a bit. Quite a ball buster you are! >:(

Ah, yes.  I stand corrected.  I did use the word anger in a previous post.

As far as Brain not describing the song, I thought you meant in general sense it would be more useful to put stock into Brain's comments if you had an idea what the song sounded like.

As far as getting Brain's description of the song, that may or may not be possible because of the confidentiality clauses, but it's worth asking.  If he says he can't answer that, then he can't answer it and the issue is dropped.

Ali

I would like you to please point me to one of my comments that was rude. If memory serves right, I didn't use any swear word. If you have a problem with me having a strong opinion on an issue and defending it, then deal with it, because I'm not gonna change anytime soon.
And believe it or not, I'm quite a happy person in real life, thank you very much for caring  :hihi:

ok back to topic :hihi:

i think that interviews like this one with brain are totally gossip.

we don`t even know what`s sarcastic or what`s serious and we get barely news out of those interviews. that`s not only directed to brain, but also to most of the other gnr menbers interviews.
they aren?t allowed to say much, so we`ll hear the same over and over again until axl gives an interview.

Regarding "GN'R member answers quest." - how legit is sp1t.com?


well, i think we can agree that it is legit.

i don't see why people are arguing. if you don't like the site because you think the interviews are pointless, don't read it. but at least accept that some people find them at least somewhat interesting/humorous. even if you don't.

and if you're so frustrated because people post it here as news and you have to read it because you're a moderator, then maybe you should reevaluate your decision to become a moderator.

either that or stop fucking bitching and call the waaaambulance.

In all fairness, in a thread where someone cut and pasted a rumor regarding a possible X-mas release onto this board you said "fuck sp1at" in all caps.  IMO, when you say something like that in all caps, it can come off as aggressive and rude.

In this thread, no, you have not directed any profanities at anyone. : ok:

Ali

Sp1at is a cool board? 8)
people feel (and are) free there. ?
thanks for the artwork thing, one of my topic will be submited to Merck, I appreciate it very much : ok:

Sp1at is the #1 GN'R website for me.

Well, my question has been answered. Thanks everyone.

loretian, since when is wanting to know the truth been seen as being hostile? When Brain, Robin, Tommy, or Richard answers a question, and their answer contradicts a previous statement, its your job as an interviewer to follow up on that. If you refuse to follow up, it just means your throwing softball questions at them and dont really care what the response is. In other words, Sp1at is the Larry King and Kathie Lee Gifford of the internet. And you will never be taken seriously.

James, it's hard to immediately follow-up a question when your interviews are conducted through e-mail.  Although, with Brain, one question was, "When was the last time you saw Axl?"  The follow-up was, "When you was the last time you talked to Axl?"

Ali

dude,

here's clearly what happens:

sp1at emails tommy or dizzy or brain a series of questions. after tommy or dizzy or whoever answers the questions, they email them back. so it's not like they're doing a personal face-to-face interview, or even over the phone, where it is easy to have a follow-up question. a follow-up question would likely involve emailing someone again. and considering a follow-up question would likely be more confrontational, you're not likely to get an answer, and you're also not likely to get any further interviews.

it's not rocket science, man. of course they don't want to piss anyone off. i mean, they're lucky enough to get any response as it is. i'd like to see how far you'd get if you tried your tactic.

The sad fact is that no-one, I not HTGTH, the NY Times, UK Times, Kerrang, Classic Rock, Sp1at can get a proper GN'R interview with Axl or any member of the band. The closest anyone gets is a Tommy interview, but only when its in his interest (i.e. to publicise VGH).

Considering the interest these forums foster in GNR I think that is a dissappointment. If Sp1at could get an interview then I'm sure they'd ask the proper questions and follow them up correctly. So as Axlgunner quite rightly says the best they can do is try to make contact with band members with short, succinct, and yes sometimes light hearted questions in order to try to maintain communication and try and keep some of us impatient fans interested until it all kicks off. If it ever does.

There's nothing wrong with my "tactics". Those tactics are always used by the legitimate media. If members of GNR cant handle any real questions, then thats their problem. They shouldnt answer any questions if they cant take a little heat. Obviously, they cant go into alot of detail about CD. There's only one man on earth who can do that, and he aint talking. My issue with these interviews is how Sp!at basically is the only group that gets interviews with these guys right now, and nothing of substance comes out of it. Remember during the 2001 NBA finals when Axl showed up? Axl hadn't been seen in years, it was a once in a lifetime scoop for that reporter, and he asks Axl: "Are you for the Lakers-Sixers? How's the crowd?" I think that guy works for Sp1at. If the new members of GNR are mature, I'm sure they could handle a few tough questions. And Sp1at could ask the questions in a professional way, so it wouldnt be taken as hostile. I can imagine Axl giving Sp1at the scoop of the century, and tells Sp1at when CD is gonna be released. Then Sp1at asks him, " So Axl, what's your favorite color?" I know you Sp1atters might take my comments as "hostile", but they're not. Its just advice, in case you ever want to legitimize yourself.

You just don't get it.  I have a suggestion: start your own damn site, start asking those kinds of questions, and see how many responses you get.   : ok:

Actually Loretian, I do get it. You ask lame questions just so you can get a response. I hope the bandmembers are reading this thread. If they are, your Sp1at "scoops" will come to a crashing halt. I dont need to start my own site. The real media asks the types of questions I mentioned. If memory serves me correctly, HTGTH has done an interview or two with GNR members. And those interviews were done with a alot more class.

they conduct their interviews via email - nuff said
they extract some useful info and have uncovered the odd bit of news, and we all know how hard that is to come by

They don't want to burn their bridges and realise the sensitive nature of some of the questions, especially given the fact these guys are under some confidentiality agreement

it's pretty simple
attacking the sp1at board is futile and pathetic and a way of perhaps venting misplaced frustration

sp1at are ok in my book

I mentioned a few times in this thread about asome decent questions.. being splat seems to enjoy emailing the members why not get a team effort from the fans and come up with a few questions we would like to know..??

Bucket's parts, will they need a third for touring, and is anything planned for 2005..?

Mike, I think the questions you mentioned are too controversial for Sp1at to handle.

All they need to do is type those questions out and send those mass emails to the members..

if you send a email to robin or richard and say did Bh's part get redone or are they staying adn if they don't know then there's some serious problems... Same questions about if they would need a 3rd player to tour with..

Mike, you hit the nail on the head. Sp1at wont ask those types of questions, because it will prove there are major problems in the band. So we will continue getting simple questions with simple answers.

here here !

they are establishing their contacts and building them slowly/surely the proper way. 


Today it's "brain answers fans q's" ]

BUT later (after a relationship has been built) it might be "Exclusive interview with brain: his thoughts on Axl, Guns, and Chinese Democracy"

Sp1at.com will have the last laugh I'm sure once they are established and the list of contacts and relationships grow.

*Oh yeah...and raise your hand if YOU would like to have dialogue on ANY level with Dizzy, Brain etc... *

Actually, I would NOT want dialogue with them if it consisted of their usual line of questioning. Their are too many inconsistencies in their stories over the past few years to just sit there and ask questions a 12 year old would ask. This is one of the reasons this whole thing has turned into a joke after all these years.