Here Today... Gone To Hell!

To make it clear to everybody, I'm not one percent of a racist , I have best friends that are black .Anyway but I'm having this fear that white girls are all of a sudden droping white guys for black guys .This all started with my one white female cousin. She hates whites for god knows what but she shoves it down my throat that black guys are better than white guys, same thing with her sister. As a high school student now ( going on senior) I really want a girlfriend desperatley . I'm so fucking shy and insecure . Right now in high school the hip-hop trend is popular , i hate being turned down .One time at a party , this cousin i mentioned ridiculed me for my long hair because being white is not cool in her book , i was really pissed . Does anyone have the same experience?

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

I thought of this link when you said "I'm not a racist because I have friends that are black."

Anyway... maybe some of these white girls you speak of have finally realized that size matters.   :hihi:

Oh man..........that website is so damn funny, I remember seeing it a while back.

*****


In America people love "black (MTV style) culture". It's a strange thing really, everybody wants to be all gangsta, hard ass, talkin' all ghetto (even though they live in the country club)..........It really is quite funny.

At the same time people are equally terrified of black people. Haha, it's hilarious.

I think women are drawn to that, because that is the bad-boy, popular culture icon right now....That is: A hard ass brother.

Of course, your friend may be dating the black guy because he treats her nice and is a gentleman.

But right now, especially in the younger age groups (16-24) I think girls pick the black guys because of (although nobody would admit it in their life) the cultural popularity of young black men portrayed by the media. Look at the tv, everything is hip-hop...everything. People are drawn to what is popular at that time. When you see white suburban kids talkin' all bad ass gansta.....there is obviously an influence. If you talked like that just 15 yrs ago when I was in HS, you would have been laughed out the door.

i dont like it, i really dont.

the rap culture is corrupting and blinding young people (my age) these days. its a shame

Bah.........They said the same thing about Rock (and GnR) 15 year ago.

I recently found out that my little 15 year old sister was dating some punk-ass chump at her school.? Strike one.....even though she's never had good taste in guys.? But then I found out the guy was black.? Strike two.?

White chicks wanting to play mudshark and go after black guys is one thing, but not my baby sister.? Anyway the guy actually tried calling the house one night and hooking up with her.

He won't be doing that again.

i get strike one. But strike two is just plain wrong. You should be ashamed of who you are if you honestly feel like that. You are a pathetic excuse for a human.

Don't confuse what is being discussed here.....I don't think anybody agrees with your racist bullshit, take it somewhere else....




CHUMP.

ya, but at least in rock kids were inspired to learn to play guitar or drums or whatever, here they're just learning to be the "illest hustla" and do way more drugs then rockers did

Unfortunately, alot of people agree with his racist bullshit.

Agreed, but it was still seen as an evil.

Those kids today...... :hihi:

We should put 'em in a church and get a guest speaker. I got a couple of ideas, Ozzy, Halford, Dickenson..... :hihi:

Ozzy's speaking is the best anti-drug message out there today.  :hihi: As for race mixing, most "whites" in America are already mixed up as Nordic/Alpine hybrids, with some Mediterraneans in there, too. Only Europe has the last pure whites, and even then, they're becoming mixed up too.

All attempts to separate race and culture eventually fail. If everyone gets mixed up in Europe like we are here, culture and art will suffer, but materialism and mercantilism will do very well. Few people know traditional Irish or English songs or food here in the US, but we have big SUVS and plasma TVs!!!!  :no:

The risk just isn't worth it. If race was only skin color, then mixing would be more acceptable.

What the hell do they have that we don't . Why does the world have to fuckin change ?
With all these inventions they come up with , the time machine better be next . I'll stay in the late 60s/early 70's . I'll be the next Marty McFly : ok:

Yeah, for fuck's sake.  Black people shouldn't be allowed to hook up with girls, that's a white person's duty.  What is the world coming to?!  :rant:

Honestly, there are two ways of looking at this:

"White girls are dropping white guys for black guys"

OR

"White guys are dropping white girls for asian girls"

Catch the yellow fever and you will be alright sir.

Who cares....

I don't care who is shaggin' who.....

I ain't married to no white girl............. ;D

Me either ;D

man that's how it is in France too, but usually we get (shitty) "trends" way later than the us ... i thought the us was past that "gangsta" trend, i thought it was back in the early 90s and all ....

man, France's not late !!! we're both ridiculous at the same time. thanks to worldwide mtv :)

I have seen a LOT of girls prefering black guys over anyone else ( there aren't just whites, there are ALL the others too) but then, i heard so many men say this and i quote " i love a BIT of black", said in the most stupid manner, that i can't blame white girls.

White men have fucked exotism for decades and married white women. White women want to know what the fuss is about. And actually prefer exotism.

How does the saying go again ? about things in life that backfire ?

And Mike, yes, you are insecure, but let me tell you one thing : long hair IS out. And i'm 30 and french. Totally out of fashion. Your cousin probably said something because of that.

Why don't you stop moaning and open magazines to see what's trendy for men in general ? ( clothes, music, .....) Not saying you should look like a magazine cover, but you could get some ideas and you'd become a bit " popular".

Being popular is something you don't give a shit about when you're older, but if you want friends and girlfriends, at your age, it's of life value.

One thing i noticed in black men, is that they usually don't give afuck about what people think and " look" very self assured. Women do not like the " sensitive" type. They don't like the bad guys as some of you seem to think, they  just like men who are self assured.

So if you keep on being insecure like that, young women will just think you need to be nursed and will ru nfar far away from you and let me tell you this out of experience, if you do meet a young women who wants to nurse you, YOU should run, becaus she has her own issues and you will both suffer.

Basically, start being cooler, relax, stop envying others, stop thinking people compare you ( i sense an issue  there), cut your hair a bit, smile a bit, talk to people about FUN things, don't moan in public and women might start to find you a good 100 times more attractive.

god ...women ....
i'm so glad i have a hot girlfriend .....

jessica you definitely killed the atmosphere....  ;D

Jesus Christ , I'm not going to change just because my look is "out." If I was wearing spandex and had my hair stand up like Axl in the wttj video , yeah that would be dumb . But what i'm saying is people are goddamn superficial about the stupidest crap anymore , the world without a doubt is going down the tubes because of its obsession with money , trend and material . I will get the last laugh someday at these greedy rich bastards that laugh at me like a dog .AHHH I'm going crazy!

yeah jess was kinda extreme
but you also have to loook at it this way

if you wanna say the way you are, you have to think you're hot and super cool
and that's it
for a lot of people it's easier to think that way if you're wearing what everybody wears (hooded sweat shirt, black blazer on top, converse, $150 jeans)

some other people, like me (cause i'm super cool) , do what they want and still think they're hot.

so if you can pull up long hair and look hot. good for you.
if you're ridiculous, too bad. :)

I don't dress ghetto but i wear casual clothes like " hooded sweat shirts" , it's dumb to do shit just because you're ass-kissing friends or little gay magazines tell you to . At least I have balls and stand up for myself. I just hate people who walk over me for the most superficial crap. And that's the bottom line .Oh and Jessica, you're a 30-year old soon to be mother , get a life and stop giving high schoolers a hard time ,give them a fucking chance to mature ! By the way
I'm not one of those white guys you mentioned that say "I like? a little black in it."?Just? because i'm one out of the white kind? doesn't give a prejudice group of girls the right to drop me in a corner like a hot potato ! And I did not say i hate white girls who date men from a different whatever, no I did not say that . What I meant was that some girls are mean and immature about it when I am nothing but a gentleman to them.Now you know where I am coming from ?

Be whoever you wanna be. Fuck the norm buddy.

You are the man!

I totally don't care about what other people want/do/dress like.

thanks, jessiaca  :rant:  :P  :hihi:

you know, if i had to choose between a feminist and a black woman, i think the black woman would win  :rofl:

Who cares what?s trendy.

Personally i like guys, who looks a bit different and they have their own thing going on. I do like "rockers" and i think it?s easier to go to talk to someone you can see has surely something in common with you.


Though, i do know few very hot black guys..  :P

And to say long hair is out is stupid when you're on this board because that stands for music like Guns n' Roses.Not that dudes should or have to grow their hair out but don't slam down rock n' roll's trademark image, no offense just trying to advise you :peace:
I wasn't moaning , I was making a truthful statement that people can be superficial.

If hair wasn't meant to be long why would it grow?

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

the super-guru, kadies and gentlemen  :P  :rofl:

Best advice u will hear


If u have to change and be something u are not to get a girl to like u


FUCK THE GIRL!

U gotta be who u are and eventually someone will like u for u, if not its all fake and bullshit anyway and its better for no girl to love u than they fall in love with a fake image that isnt really u.


There are pieces of shit white guys there are pieces of shit black guys

Im an equal opportunist race beater when it would come to my daughter

if they treat her good, they are welcome in my house and my family

if they treat her bad they are gonna wish they hadn't

Ah ... Fuckin bull shit. Doesn't matter what race you are anybody in this? world can be insecure .We were all created equal , there all just myths people believe .Anyone that is popular is going to be self-assured.I said earlier ...Who's saying I worry about what people think about me now,maybe I'm not that insecure ... 8)

its all a pack of crap.... but once you go newfie you dont go back

True dhat homeboy!

you know there is good and bad in all... I am far from a racist where I live it's very melting pot so you go with the flow... I have one daughter and another kid on the way so for me I would prefer if she dated another white guy.. I know that must sound wrong but I have lived in brooklyn nyc my entire life and have seen the way it is around here... I had went to a mostly black HS and hung around with a lot of black people.. A good deal of them do not treat the females in their life very good.. Now that doesn't mean everyone, but it;'s enough to have a concern when it's your flesh n blood.. You watch rap videos see violence with black men adn a lot of it happens right were I live..it's not just some random thing that tons of rap stars come from by me.. Many of them are really teh way they portray themselves on tv..

Now this doesn't mean if my daughter brought home a black man I would throw him out, it's just if I had to chose I rather she date a white guy.. it's no different the other way around when the girl is white to the black parents.. Later in life the mixed kids get shit too..
I know it comes down to who she loves, but I also have to look out for her safety.. it's not some coincidence that each bad neighborhood in nyc is not white.. Must depend where you live..

I admire your honesty Mike and I agree, Id prefer my daughter to stay with a white guy cause 99 percent of the black guys I am friends with treat them pretty bad plus it almost always ruins the girls reputation

Im not saying that is right or fair, but why bullshit about it?

Maybe this whole thing is becoming where there is some people that date out of their race and some only date inside their race . It used to only be blacks with blacks and whites with whites . Hell looking at my nationality, even though white I'm more than half Irish , then a mixture of english , german, polish and spanish. Maybe the Pot has been melting more than we thought a long time ago.I hate how we are divided from people by color.

Just a few Points that I would like to say, and I am too lazy to put all the quotes in.. so here goes!

a) Long hair is AWESOME! Trendy is SO old, I've noticed that people who really matter dont go with the crowd and are their own people! So I say have fun with your long hair!

b) Not all girls prefer "black" people! Me, for instance! I prefer to look at the PERSON and what we have in COMMON and not their skin colour, or like somone mentioned previously "thier package size"  :confused:

c) Yeah. I agree with Jessica on one thing, girls like a guy who gets out and has a good time! Think of it this way:

If the person you really like/love is in the room and you're dancing and being happy... dont stop if that person leaves the room!!

So in other words, always have a good time! And dont just do it for girls/boys!!

I hope that I've been of SOME use... Good luck with your girl finding!!!  :beer:

There are some common stereotypes that dont apply.

not all girls love a bad boy

not all girls love a confident guy

not all girls love someone who likes to go out and have a good time


there is a whole plethoria of different personalities and people out there, u just gotta search broad and deep for the right one and dont give up till u have found her.

Sorry, dude... but by saying you prefer she date a white guy over a black guy means that skin color means something to you, and that's a racist comment.  At least be honest with yourself.

And it doesn't take pale skin to treat a woman with respect.  How a man chooses to treat a woman has absolutely nothing to do with the color of their skin, it has to do with what they've got inside, and on the inside, we are all the same color.

I think mike is saying he doesnt mind the colour of skin, it is the culture and society that often goes along with with that skin colour that means he is protective of his children's safety.

I don't agree with what he's saying totally, but it's an honest statement that is not racially motivated. It's motivated by culture.

Or maybe he's not. Maybe he just hates ni**ers.

My point is... is that he is stereotyping because of a race -- you can say it's for cultural differences, or the way society is, or whatever, but it's still a comment based on the color of skin, because until you actually get to know a person, you don't know what kind of upbringing they've had, and hense, you have no idea what kind of differences actually exist.? You can take two people who were born and raised in Irvine, CA, one black and one white, and two people who were born and raised in Compton, CA, one black and one white... and just because the two white guys have the same color skin, doesn't mean that they are going to behave toward a woman similarly.? Same with the two black guys.

If you profile a person's personality and the way they will treat another person based upon the color of their skin and not on the person within, this is a racially motivated thought process.? No matter how much you want to sugar coat it... you're still being racist.

Thanks for that. I do know what racism is.

The difference between a racist and mike is that a racist wouldn't find out what sort of person the black guy was. They'd just stop it completely. Mike just said he'd prefer it if she chose a white guy. If the guy did turn out to be a dick to women then i'm sure mike would do something about it. And if a white guy was a dick to his daughter i'm sure mike would intervene too. But if the guy was good to his daughter, it appears from his past that he'd get along fine with the guy.

Thanks for that... I do know the difference.   : ok:

My point is that it was still a racist comment.  You can sugar coat it all you want and say it's merely a preference, but, when you make a preference based upon skin color, it's a racially motivated preference. 

Now, do I think Mike is a racist?  No.  I think his comment was a racist comment, but I don't think he intended it to be interpreted that way.   I mean, I would rather my daughter date a rich man rather than a poor one, but if she brings home a poor one, I'm not going to throw him out.  That doesn't make my comment any less of a profiling statement.

Yeah, isn't that the point?

Tied-Up, I disagree with you that Mike's comment was racist. Many people, regardless of their race, would prefer their loved ones to date someone from their own race. Does that necessarily make them racist? I don't think it does because I think most people want prefer what is most familiar to them and what attracts them the most. Do you also feel its racist when a white person says they only prefer to date black people? I mean, they are just choosing people based on the color of their skin, aren't they? Somehow I doubt you would because you certainly didn't mention it when you responded to the original topic. I think people are too quick to shout racist when a white person says something that isn't 100% positive to minorities.

you love who you love...regardless of gender or colour..the rest is shit...love is colourblind

Well Acquiesce: ?You would be wrong. ?I think that judging based only upon race is a racist choice, regardless of who is making the choice, and what race is being chosen. ?I feel that things should be equal across the board, for all races and genders.

Racism ['rA-"si-z&m] (n): a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities

When you say "I prefer to date whites" or "I prefer to date blacks" ?you are making a choice based on skin color, not upon the person inside the skin. ?That's a decision based upon race, hence, it is a racist decision. ?It doesn't mean that person is a hate-harboring racist. ?It means that he/she sees the skin color before they see the person under the skin.

What if an employer said "I prefer to hire whites" or "I prefer to hire blacks" ???

There is all different kinds of prejudice boys and girls.

We are all a bit, if we admit it or not.

I'm wrong but yet it took me to point it out to you for you to say it's just as wrong for a white person to say they prefer black people. Right.

I still disagree with you because it may not be so much the skin color as someone may just be naturally attracted to the physical characteristics that are unique to a certain race. I mean I find Hispanic guys to be more attractive than Asian guys, but I certainly don't think less of Asians. So if I say I prefer Hispanic guys that is just like me saying I prefer tall guys.  It may be shallow but not racist. I certainly have my preferences but I never let my preferences get in the way so that I would exclude someone because they don't fall into that category. I don't see what is wrong with that.

I also don't think the original comment was racist because to me it wouldn't be much different if the comment was "I would prefer if she dated a rock fan." It's all about familiarity. Besides, it's not as if he said he would be  totally against her dating black guys. Now that would have been racist. I just think racism is a strong word and people should be careful before they throw it out there.

All Right, I didn't start no racism rant.What I meant in the very begining was that a relative of mine verbally abused me because of her opinion that I was scared she was right and  I became less-confident  of myself . But then  I descovered this quote ,

Mike ... that's a great quote!


Acquiesce:? I didn't say it was "just as wrong for white people to say they prefer black people" because... well, I was commenting on this post from mikegiuliana:


Since he had said that he would prefer his daughter to date a white man, I commented on that.? If he had said that he would prefer his daughter date a black man, I would have still commented on the racist slant.

in addition, I understand 'attraction' and that skin color/race is a part of appearance upon which we base physical attraction.? However, since that wasn't the issue concerning mikegiuliana's post... I didn't mention it either.?

My main point is basically what SLC has said... we all have our prejudices.? All I was saying is be honest about them.   :peace:

I'm prejudice against all races  :D

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

Izzy hates all....

Izzy, Why cant you show love?? Why??

I think somone needs a hug!!!!  ;D

Stay yourself dude. if people aren't satisfied by who you are, where you come from, the colour of your skin, or your eyes or your religion or whatever, the problem comes rather from them, not from you.  :)

I could give up hatred anytime, I just don't want to

 :smoking: Izzy? :smoking:

listen, just old on. I luckil got a gf that liked gn'r. There really is no point in d8ing girls like that. trust me. theyr arrogant assholes that judge people on looks and shit like that rather than personality.

I think most cultures white,black,whatever want their children to stay within their race.

I know a lot of black people that hate when a black guy dates a white chick as if black women arent good enough for them

there is a huge difference

there are rednecks and white people
there are niggers and black people

I dont want my daughter dating a red neck or a nigger but she can date a white or black guy as long as they treat her right.

now if the guy abuses her in anyway black white or whatever, he is gonna have some serious fuckin problems with me.

All attempts to separate race and culture are doomed to fail. Blacks have their own culture over 400 years after arriving in the New World. Whites have lost much of our culture after late 19th century immigration, notably the Irish and Italians. Potatoes and pizza don't count. At least compared to Europeans, white Americans are very mixed. Our level of culture, of course, is much much lower.

Race and culture are too closely linked to each to take miscegenation lightly. It's not race mixing that people really hate, it's culture mixing (and getting watered down), yet the two are too closely linked to separate.

wtf dude,.....................what are you thinkin'!!!

Dont you know that one day your gonna meet a girl who is into all your shit and will proberly kill you if you cut your hair! :o

Fuck what your stupid arse cousin says..........she's a fucken trend follower mate, and your not, THATS WHY YOUR COOL DUDE!!

Just 'cause its the cool thing to dress like these FUCKEN PATHETIC cockheads on MTV or whatever and listen to that BULLSHIT, dont let it put you down, my last girlfriend changed because everyone els listend to techno n' all that shit, BUT I FUCKEN DIDNT!!   and it made me realize somethin'............IM FUCKEN REAL, i dont change for trends and the hip shit, i'll still be headbangin' with my long hair and METALLICA shirts for the rest of my life...and laugh at these dumb arse rappers and think....WHAT FUCKHEADS!!!!

FUCK TREND FOLLOWERS
FUCK TODAYS BLACK RAP SHIT (oh i better make it clear before someone shits, i have black freinds too :confused:) old school rap is real, NWA, ICE T-CUBE, the old school shit!! Not like fuckwit SNOOP who does duets with cunts and gold chains n' all that bullshit for the screen!!
FUCK MTV
FUCK SNOOP AND HIS POSSE
FUCK YOUR COUSIN AND HER BELEIFS AND FUCK YOU  (na not you mate :hihi:)

I've just met a girl too and guess what, SHE'S MORE METAL THEN ME AND HAS PANTERA TATTED UP HER FUCKEN LEG, and one day you'll find someone dude, until then...........sit back n' laugh at all these tough boy pimped up getto wannabes on TV, remember that they are wimps who need to flash there money in your face with there bitches hangin' on there sides.   
Your cousin is a product of 'whats the in thing, oh black people are, i better buy some top 50 singles and be a high roller.

YOUR BETTER THEN THAT, lets see your cousin in afew years when the next trend is out... FUCKEN PATHETIC!!

go get stoned or somethin' in the mean time :-X

oh, trend followers are usually pretty sad people, especially when they dont know who they really are, and trying to be somethin' they are not.    : ok:

next time your cous puts you down, tell her i said fuck off!!

people should not expect thier partner to change...
after all it is that indivual person that caught your eye in the first place. there is nothing wrong with dating a black woman if you are white and visa vera...
just like there is nothing wrong with an aussie dating a japanesse person.
i have dated a black man before he was negro.. gorgeous guy.. but i still had people looking at us funny and some making comments.. but i just shrugged it off.
i found happiness and i was not going to loose just because a bunch of young rasist people thought that it was wrong!!

what am I not allowed to have a preference if we are being honest.. I rather my daughter date an italian american because I would like to keep the culture and so on the same... Does this mean every orthodox jew that marries their own is a bunch of bigots or are they just following their faith?

Thanks tuna you did a good job in saying ways I felt.. I thought this topic was on pg 2 by now..

What happens happen in life we all accept if we are open, but most people want their kids happy but also would rather if they had to chose someone of their own faith, culture, and race..

Unless you know my life or what I se or the people I know then you shouldn't judge me..  The racist is the person who says fuck no she ain't marrying some NI**er...

I'd like 2 million dollars but I would take one, it's just preference...  Come live in brooklyn the home of rap and violence and the worst schools going and just see if you would want to offer your blood child to the race that is the most in jails here and the ones who have the worst neighborhoods with drug and crime rates.. People need to live inreality adn stop sugar coating things to make it look politically correct..

you're wrong. i am not physically attracted to dark skin. i only like very fair skinned women. i even hate it when women get too tan. therefore i have only dated white women. does that mean i am a racist?  ::)

that is so true...its no different to someone saying i only date people who are intelligent, or are a certain height, or weight...does it mean they are disciminating? of course they are...thats what the word discriminate means, differences between people...everyone is different in some way no matter how small it is,  therefore everyone discriminates about something

tied-up forgets that with racism there is always some sort of hatred towards the differences, with choice there is not...just because someone chooses one person over another because of colour doesnt mean they did it out of hatred, if they did choose because of colour it is racism, if they didnt then that is their choice, nothing more nothing less

I always consider racism to consist of a certain hatred.

I dont hate black people but i dont want my niece or my daughter if I have one someday marrying one.

I dont look down on other women that do it, i dont look down on my black friends that date white girls, but my personal preference would be for her not to.

Now if she does, Im not gonna disown her or kick her out of the house or make her feel bad for doing so. Im not gonna brainwash her that she better not date some black guy.

Just in my heart I don't want her too.

I admit to being a little prejudice, I think everyone is to a certain point.

my girlfriend hates when I tell black jokes but i tell her, listen to Chris Rock or Martin Lawrence or any black comedian and their act consists of making fun of white people, so why is it racist if I do the same to them?

I know people who claim to not be prejudice but tense up everytime a couple of black guys are near.

I dont apologize for it and my friends accept me for my honesty.

I remember a black friend of mine a year or two ago was married to a white girl and she left him for a white guy. I jokingly said "We are taking them back" :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: he laughed his ass off.

people are too tense sometimes.

Because white men were never told to use a different water fountain, or to sit at the back of the bus. It's about history.

as much as I sympathise with how the blacks were treated decades ago...it doesnt give them the right to do something i cannot do...

the blacks who think that way are taking advantage of the system

todays younger african americans in no way shape or form suffered like the old time days as mentioned with white only this that and the other thing.. if anything with quoters for schools and jobs they are getting easier ways to survive over a white person.. If I run abusiness and spend the money to build it I should be able to employ who ever the hell I want./. As long as they are american and tax payers and qualified then it should be my choice..

Now I am not going to say are they more likely to be stopped by a cop or something of that nature.. No doubt about it but as long as you aren't some fucking punk ass with a smart mouth everything should be cool... But you have to look at the numbers, that perticular race is commiting the most crimes so it's not strange to be a litle more attentive..
so you have section 8 fixed rents food stamps welfare affirmative action etc so the playing field is a hell of a lot more even then it once was..  This is nyc I am speaking of I can't speak of any other places..

but dude, its history, i have aborigenes come up to me in town askin' for a smoke, i give him one and starts hastling me about white n' black aussie history....FUCK THAT? ? ? ?


you n' me journey have nothin' to do with the past so fuck that shit!!

brooklyn has a very large orthodox jewish population and they are quite wealthy.. Now no one has been anymore abused then the jewish people yet they stick together and find a way to solve problems.. very peacefully I might add and their areas flurish constantly. So just because people were looked down apon doesn't mean you can't build yourself up instead of crying about ancestors and shit;.;; italian and irish were fucking dogs in america when they got herel.. They were treated like shit they made little money but the rose and worked their asses off now it's all good.... Life is what you make of it, sometimes life gives you lemons but you have to make lemonade.... It's easy to blame others and be lazy or say it's soemone holding you down.. Just get off your fucking ass stop blaming people and make your own life.... if you are a go getter there's a good chance your children will foloow, if you are some lazy ass belly aching how you are being held down collecting checks then that will be your kid's example and the cycle will never end..

There is a BIG difference between a black and a nigg*r. A nigg*r is someone who is ?arrogant, ignorant, thief, lives off of welfare, beats and rape women , pimps women, deals drugs, has to have their friends help them in fights, and is involved in gangs.You can be black, white,mexican, chinese and so on, and be a nigg*r .It doesn't take the color of of the skin to be one. Say there's a black man walking down a street ,a white man holds a gun to the black guy's head and asks for his wallet.Who's the nigg*r ,the white guy ,right?
Ever saw the movie Scarface, now there's a nigg*r. Get it through you're head people,the color of the skin doesn't ?matter in order to be a nigg*r.

as chris rock would say I love black people but I hate ni**ers.. Yeah the basic pricaple of the word can work for any race but call a mexican a white and a indian the N word then call any black person one and the difference will be something else..

The word is also pinned in balck people because they use the offensive word as a form of communication among themselves, just like SON.. if you really wanted to get rid of soem labels you would try and banish such a hatefull word from your vocabulary in the black community.. Not every generation is going to udnerstand how bad it is and might see it in a rap video or hear a friend say it and just repeat it..

Boy.

There sure is some disapointing stuff to read in this thread.

your reply is so uneducated.

obviously you are not aware of the discrimination the irish (and all other ethnic groups) faced when they came to america. ever see the old sign that reads:

"irish need not apply"

i'm guessing you have not.

all ethnic and religious groups have faced discrimination at some point in their history.

or the jews. or the moslems. or the catholics. or the white africans. or the french.

need i go on?

It means you have a fetish

Wow, some of you guys are associating things like "criminal", "thug", "womanizer", etc. with being black...

Would you guys be so suspicious (and overprotective) if your daughter/sister was going out with Denzel Washington? 

My reply is not uneducated at all. I know my history. Black Americans were slaves for a hundred years. And when they finally got their freedom, they still weren't allowed to vote or have other rights. They were and still are discriminated against today.

People are making posts about black men being low class criminals, putting them down. Not all black men are criminals. And you're calling my reply uneducated. .


"obviously you are not aware of the discrimination the irish (and all other ethnic groups) faced when they came to america. ever see the old sign that reads:

"irish need not apply"

i'm guessing you have not.

all ethnic and religious groups have faced discrimination at some point in their history."

I'm familiar with that. But blacks were discriminated against for a much longer time than the Irish. The Irish weren't being told to use a different restroom or water fountain in the mid 1960s.

Discrimination is a form of racism.

You can sugar coat it all you want, you can try to disguise your feelings any way you want, but at the end of the day, it's still racism.

If you make a choice about someone based on their skin color... whether you're saying "I'd rather my kid date within my race" ... even with a qualifying point such as "if she did date outside my race, I wouldn't throw the guy out, but, I'd rather it be this way"... it's still a racist comment.?

We all have our prejudices ... for example... I'm not extremely tolerant of anything religious in nature.? I may have revealed a little of this in other posts.? ?:hihi:?

Just because you aren't acting out violently with your discriminating preferences, doesn't mean you're not a racist, it just means you're not an extremist.? We have extremists in all walks of life, including racism.

"But blacks were discriminated against for a much longer time than the Irish."

if you're talking about IN AMERICA, then your statement is true. but the irish were indentured servants (aka slaves) for many more years than blacks.

and hey, i'm not looking for sympathy for the irish, the italians, jews or anyone. just pointing out that it's not only blacks that have faced discrimination in this world.

i had to take a "history" course in college called "Studies in Race" (mandatory class for all students at temple university). my teacher was jewish and the whole semester we primarily talked about the hardships of blacks and slavery.

but near the end of the semester, he actually said that the irish faced more discrimination than any other ethic group in modern history. now this was just his opinion, but since then i've read more and more about it, and have learned that many historians share this view. 

so are the brooklyn jews by me racists because they keep marriage and lifestyle in their own religon/culture.. They go to jewish doctors, they go to jewish lawyers they eat at jewish establishment.. They keep a tight knit community which I think is smart..

i agree 100%. and people hate the jews for that reason. but you have to respect that. especially considering how wealthy and successful jews are, AND what jews were facing 60 years ago.

and this point (which some try to call racism), is the root of many problems facing blacks in america. ALL other ethnic groups whne facing discrimination in the US (and other regions of the world) stuck together and built communities. and they worked their asses off to prove that they could be valued members of society.

blacks do NOT stick together. black on black crime rates are sky high. and when a black person is successful, he is not respected in the black community - he's "bowing down to the white man". black people stab each other in the back in the work place.

exactly dude especially the the last two lines.. When people migrate to america they tend to form small communities like little italy, china town, little odessa etc.. Does that mean everyone is racist?/ No it means they are familiar with eachother and want a taste of home.. They are able to keep their worship together, their foods all their ways of life..

I know people know nyc but I will give you a perfect example there is a beautiful place in brooklyn (well once lovely) It's called east new york.. Guys like mike tyson came out of there... Well it was originally a lovely italian area from the 1900's say till about the 60's nice churches and shit like that.. Now it is a fucking war zone with tons of lots and abandoned destroyed buildings tons of drugs crime and prostitution.. Now this was a gradual process but it happened now this is not a place any white person would be caught in at night (at least not walking around)
These are all facts and instead of sticking together and making that area flurish they chose to keep it a litter box where other human beings fear to be.. Some of you really must live in fantasy land...

nononononoonon.
i have to disagree. community feeling and support is the worst thing on the world.
this is why people fight, people hate, because people belong TO A COMMUNITY.

jews stay with jews, blacks stay with black. i don't want a world like that.

so the example of succesful jew/italian community is the pain of the world. it creates hate. it creates the sentiment of being superior, of being part of something private.
i say fuck that.

we need or ONE SINGLE community (humanity) or NO community at all.

also lets not go into the jew, italian, irish .... these are not races, these are religion or nationalities .... but hey, there aren't any race for me, i hate everybody i don't know :)

Did you take a national poll on black men at the work place?

I worked with black men before, and they all went to church and were friends with each other. There were no backstabbings.

Black on black crime is high among gang members/ drug dealers, but not your average black man. PLEASE stop putting all black men into this category, because is not fair.

sterotypes are derived from truths... Asians good at math science, italians cooking or eating pizza, mafia,  jews tight with a dollar ,indians drive taxis blacks jump high run fast.. I could have gotten into worse ones but the idea is these stereotypes weren't some random thing that people just placed apon each race.. They are based on some sought of truths..

The point is there are good in all and not everyone is the way their mold is portrayed but you can still find quite a few that fit the mold..

If there's 20 black teens on a train or bus more then likely they are being rowdy and very loud.. Take the next car on the train filled with asians and they are most likely talking in a peacefull manner.. These are just the facts by where i live nyc..

Blacks from africa and the islands that I haev worked with hate american blacks because they portray a negative image and it trickles down to them even though they are not like them.. I work on construction all over the big city so I work with everyone partners of all races so they tell me how they feel..

Your pop culture also doesn't help portray blacks in a good way nor does all those films like boyz in the hood  or anything else of that nature..
No one is saying it's everyone but the idea a certain race commits the most crimes and is the most in jail isn't just some coincidence of unfair treatment.. trust me my HS was mostly blakc, the projects were right across the street..  I'd love to know here everyone lives.. What may not happen by you might happen by me or vice versa..

In nyc all the bad areas are minorities.. We don't have trailor parks or white trash.. You have your scumbags and lowlifes but all the white areas are safe by me...  We only know where we live and what we see..

Hi friend, how are you doing?
well, it would be interesting to know in which  way they are better than white guys..

and by the way everybody feel unaccepted at some point of their lives, but hey we must carry on... regardless of the situations surrounding us... so   to hell with her... man 

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I think what it is, is the whole rap/gangsta culture now has the bad boy image white Rock n' Roll bands once had like...Guns n' Roses. : ok: With the music put aside, they are alike in so many ways. They anger parents, sing about drugs and loving sex, which they make millions of dollars off of. But I won't stop believing that rap is not music and is worth-less shit :-\ ... a rather trendy culture too. Wether you like it or not , no matter what you like or what you hate, it's going to fade out. Sure we love 60's/70's/80's rock n' roll and heavy metal but even those cultures faded out . There's always a new artist to start their chapter.

             Speaking of the white girl/black guy problem going on in school like mentioned in this thread, I think what the white boys have to do is look for a girl that doesn't like bad boys if it's that big of a downfall for their teenage-life.

the black man is the bad boy for white blonde god fearing christians these days. Love is love no matter what race or sex it is. Too bad people get wrapped up with the wrong person for the shock value.

It doesn't bother me at all, really. I'm not stereo-typing but I met a alot of biracial kids with  parents that divorced. From what I've seen ,I knew mixed couples that didn't last that long. And it's the white girls who accept them, it's not like the black guy holds a magic wand over her to become her boyfriend. I'm sorry , you're a jack-ass if you follow a woman that doesn't accept you. Jealousy is an option you don't want in life. So take this advice of mine and use it in life, it helps ;)


           :headbanger: Buddy J.B. :headbanger:

http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/animosity/

This article nails it. Even if all races were absolutely equal in all aspects (they aren't), race mixing would be a bad idea. When too many races mix, the unique cultures of them all are replaced with lowest common denominator substitues: "freedom", materialism, and democracy. This has already happened in the US, to a huge degree. There are no Nubians, Armenians, or Manchurians here. We're all "white", "black", or "asian". The mix has already happened, and "multiculturalism" is an attempt to bring back something we've lost over time, but we can't get it back. It's over.

Wow interesting article, seems very reasonable too. What I wouldn't like about being a mixed person, if I were trying to search for my ancestors , it would be hard for me to belive that's who they are, I wouldn't share genetic features from them through my identity. For example, my three 2nd cousins are half black/white, they don't look anything like their white relatives. Their moms are contantly aked if they adopted their kids by strangers. People believe races being seperated from each other is racism, that's totaly wrong. I met hot black chicks, but I wouldn't want her to have my future kids. It just seems right for reletives to resemble each other. Since my family stayed within their race, it has decreased family tragedies. My older relatives used to be abusive drunks, but us younger relatives has turned out fine. Like what the article said, learn to deal with the family line you're in, if you stay within the tribe , the wrongs to the past will be fixed.

It's hardest for white/asian hybrids, I've heard. Japan is still very nationalistic, but some soldiers did pick up Japanese wives after WWII. Their children aren't really welcome in Japan the same way a complete Japanese person is, and they have issues here as well.

Despite a birthrate of like 1.7, Japan is still reluctant to let in foreign workers. Their attitude is something Westerners don't understand.

What a veiled racist you are.

We are all the exact same DNA. Period.

Here is a little more damning quote from your "source" you forgot to leave out:

Too many people try to argue that negroes are inferior or stupid or criminal, and therefore, "scientifically," that we shouldn't breed with them. Whether or not this is true is irrelevant. They're lying to themselves when they say this is the reason. The truth of the matter is that healthy people, no matter how "superior" the potential mixed mate might be, do not breed outside their own tribe, because to do so is not only to give up on the past but to embrace an illusion of a one-shot fix. Combining radically different designs does not magically produce a superior design, but a chaotic one, and while it may have some strengths, it will lack overall direction and refinement - it will lack evolutionary upward potential. In modern society, where the requirements of us are a) get job b) buy things and c) entertain self, it is often hard to see how abilities degenerate through mixing, but when one looks at the intangible qualities of life, like moral character and overall togetherness as personalities, this truth is undeniable.

This narrow minded racist CRAP makes all these statements, but provides nothing to support the claim.

Only an ashole would buy this kind of crap.

bottom line- we are all part of the human race. 

Do black cats discriminate against white cats? no, racisim is a  learned behavior.

thats because black cats wernt slaves to white cats :P

haha, NIB, that was probably your funniest post to date.....adda boy!  :rofl: :rofl:

Think about it this way, if Slavery never happened, would we still be as recist as we are?

There is really not much to think about..........

what im trying to say is slavery isnt the sole reason theres so much rasicm in the world

I misread cause I'm tired.

I blame slavery for the huge gap we have between black and white to this day.

And I also recognize that we would have prejudice without the horrible event of slavery.

For instance I believe most people with blue eyes are pretty stupid...it's a fact.

People that always discriminates black people I always do this question, Have you ever seen a child that was born without a arm, leg, or any other phisical disorder? I think all people would say NO, I think black people is a race very strong yet their own demons makes them weak. It's like they still have some sort of fear or hate, I don't know the exact word to describe the feeling. :peace: