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Merck Mercuriadis has told Splat that it is fair to assume that only he, Axl Rose and Caram Costanzo (engineer) know the full facts about forthcoming GN'R album, "Chinese Democracy", including details of the final tracklist. In 2004, Caram Costanzo similarly told Splat that only three people had full knowledge on GN'R's new album.
Current band members have historically been criticised for their lack of knowledge on the seminal rockers new album, allegedly due out at the end of the year. However, it appears that the GN'R camp have keeping their cards close to their chest, and still are even at this advanced stage.

Written by bigboss

 

Well, that means that the Rumour about Axl handed over tracks to Universal is fake?

The use of the words "final tracklist" makes me a little optimistic. Have those words been used before when CD is discussed? And yes, NYTunz, it confirms that rumor to be bullshit. If Axl had handed the songs over already, surely more than 3 people would know about the album.

So, if the "final trackist" will be handed to the record company soon, then the announcement should be near, i really hope this album DONT leak!!

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NYTunz, I wouldn't want the whole album to leak either. But I would like to see at least 4 or 5 songs leak. It would speed up the albums release.

If anyting should leak, i hope its the final product of a song we already heard! Danm i wish Axl all the best luck in the world on this!

 - Nytunz -

NYTunz, I partially agree with you. Hearing the songs we've already heard would be great, and we would have all the unknown songs to look forward to. But I would love to see one of those "earth shattering" songs to leak a couple months before release. It would bring alot of attention to CD. And if it truly is earth shattering, countless millions will be anticipating the release.

Id love to hear the FINISHED version of IRS, if anything at all.  :peace:

Well, true, i do belive that "if good songs" leak, then it actally is good promotion for the artists, i even think that recordcompanys leak the albume sometime, coz they know its good for the recordsales. But i wouldent change away the feeling, og putting Chinese Democracy in my cd player! where there is 15 new GNR songs that i have never heard before! Just sit in my "stressless" and listen the cd from A to Z

This confims what most have thought for a while now.

The band members themselves don't know much more than we do..

 I cant even imagine how long I will listen to CD continously. I will definitely hibernate for a few days and do nothing but listen to CD. I want to hear it with ZERO outside distractions. Just me, God, and CD. Nothing else. Although at some point when its released, I want to come to this site and see what you guys are saying about it. A good and bad thing about this album finally coming out is it will definitely bring closure to ALOT of people. Myself included. Many people will move on with their lives. The GNR forums will never be the same again. The forum will get a massive surge of activity in the weeks before and after its release. But after that, there probably wont be very many people posting anymore, unless some major GNR news occurs. Or a new tour starts. That would keep some people here. It will be interesting to see what Jarmo and the moderators do during that time. Maybe revamp the site or something? Who knows? When that bridge gets crossed, its something everyone should discuss if everyone wants to continue peak interest in the site.

I guess we will start crying about a new album then..  :P Well, Axl promised 2 more albume over the next few years  ;D

You hit the nail on the head with "closure," thats all we're looking for if nothing else.  I think people will still post here though, but it will be things like lyric discussion, tour info, etc.

No, it confirms that the band members don't know the full facts, not that they know as little as we do.

I agree and disagree. I agree about the closure part. Having CD in our hands and then being able to listen to it will definately bring some sort of closure to many people here.

I disagree about the moving on part. Unless CD is a horrible lsiten I doubt the fans that have been here and waiting will leave. A whole new can of worms will open once CD is in our hands. The debates, comparisons, song discussions...etc...that will go on for quite awhile. Throw that and a probable tour in the mix GNr will hopefully be around for awhile.


The day we get an official release and the day its finally in our hands is going to be an absolute amazing day. Not many albums will ever give us the emotion that we will take on that day. I just want that fukin day to come.

I didn't say they knew "as little as we do"....

See above.

I say they dontknow much so in case they quit they can't spill the beans.

This is obviously Axl's project

the band contributed their ideas but make no mistake a bout it, this isnt a democracy *no pun intended*

this is a dictatorship with axl calling all the shots.

At this stage i think its the only way we will ever hear it -  i'm praying it does - c'mon, somebody steal the tapes!

So, It's also fair to assume......Merck doesn't know a shit.
Oh I mean the full details of course.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Axl+Caram=2 persons? Where has the third person gone?

I don't think the benefits of the promotion through leak are more than the drawbacks.
Leak equals lower sales.

Look what happened with Coldplay's new album.

James, Axl mentioned the tracklist being done in August 2002!
"There are a lot of new songs that were just done in the last year that we feel that ?okay, well that bumps a lot of stuff off the previous list but it's time to stop that now and wrap up the baby. It feels right, the timing, and a lot of things. We?ve sorted it down to what songs are on the record. What the sequence of the songs is. The album cover art is ready. " Before speculating all the time and asking questions which no one knows the answer to, people should just read the actual statements given by Axl and management. ::) ::)

We'll be back next summer with a whole bunch of new songs! - Axl Rose , January 2001

Exactly, nothing anybody says means anything until they announce a release date. Everything else is just the same bullshit that has been recycled since 1999. I will get excited when Geffen/Interscope and management formally announce the tracklist and release date. Until then, nothing has changed. 8) 8)

I think he ment himself, Axl and Caram...

oops my bad. So I assume. :P

i guess the process axl mentioned (there are a lot of new songs...) lasted longer than axl thought it would. i hope that it`s finished now and they`ll wrap up the baby now.....

and i don`t think that the message boards will die after the release. i mean we all are here 12 years after the last gnr album and we will also be here after the release of chinese democracy.(unless we don`t like it, but I WILL like it)

No I see the message boards blowing up.? Look what happened with the IRS leak.? Good thing Jarmo is getting help with the server issues.

So only three people know for sure what is happening?  So that's just three people who know that not alot is going on. ::)

Don't anyone get their hopes up to high for an album by the end of the year.  I want it to happen just as much as everyone else and hopefully it does happen, but look how many times we've been let down before.  It would be interesting though, cause VR would have a new album coming out around the same time and I'm not trying to start a GNR vs. VR fight, we all know who's better.  I don't even know what to think anymore, lets just hope something happens this year.  Its been a long fucking wait and I can't imagine the feeling when the wait comes to a close.

I haven't checked this site for ages, and this topic is why.  The most encouraging news for probably about 6 months is 'Merck says he supposes that Axl knows something about cd bla bla bla...'

Peeps, big bad Uncle Axl still has the real W.A. Rose locked up in an underground chamber somewhere in the Malibu hills.

 :no:

I think the reason that the song writing process has taken so long is because he is having trouble creativly. I mean when someone gets to a point where everything has to be perfect, then what is perfect? Perfect can also change in their own minds. Im saying this because it seems to be a recurring pattern that Axl is a perfectionist. Even alice cooper said it about recording the garden.